WOW! Has NOBODY commented on this episode yet?? 622....

May 5, 200017 posts by 10 posters
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abrahammy

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Well, I'll get the junk out of the way first. Joey's storyline can best be described as Not As Bad As Hand Twin. It was predictable and dull. I have no other comment, except that he does his best work with Chandler and now may never get to do that again.

As one may guess, I enjoyed the Ross/Rachel story the most. I was all set to cheer smugly when Ross, tired of being teased about Elizabeth's age, came up with a reasonably good quip about Rachel being interested in fossils. (Yes! They are acknowledging that she's doing the same thing he is! Yes!) But for some reason, the friends all thought her comment "that just reminds us that you are interested in fossils." As if that were an embarrassing thing. I just do not understand this show's aggressive determination to ridicule any intellectual endeavor more difficult than Mad Libs.

The few comments I've read here are right; Bruce Willis was great. His conceit brought us a few great scenes; not only his own prancing around, but his comuppance, when Ross' quick thinking and sharp ears turned the tables on Paul. Ross won on his wits, and for all the stuffing himself in and out of cabinets and stripping to his underwear, this has to go down as a good episode for Ross. While he was geeky (which I don't mind) he didn't do anything disturbing and he did win his very difficult battle ultimately on his own. Rachel was at her *very* best as she tried to figure out how to hide him and get him out. This was a solid subplot all around. Three great performances lifted material that really is kind of cliched and worthy of Three's Company. But it was funny and it didn't make my stomach hurt, and I'm afraid that's my criteria for a good episode these days.

And oh, while we are ragging on overweight or scrawny physiques, let's accentuate the positive for a minute. DID ANYBODY SEE THE MUSCLES ON DAVID'S ARMS????????!!!! Good golly miss Molly, when did he go and get THOSE?????? Now, if he's supposed to be this intellectually dull geek with limited appeal, how come he looks like an athlete????!!!

OK, let me regain my composure here...

And for that other little development. Why on earth haven't the Chandler and Monica hordes swarmed this board by now? Guys, this is the best storyline for your lovebirds in months! Where are you? Why do *I* have to do this for you??? (Hi, Activia, you did your part.)

It was written just as a story from writers who like the characters should write it:

Monica got a whim. She put her name down as a lark, so the writers avoided demonizing her. Her Shriek and Bully quotient was so far down she seemed like Monica of the old days, and I didn't cringe when she came on screen. Chandler's reactions were actually funny, but he forgave her quickly. And the revelation where he told Phoebe he thought the museum was beautiful was very nicely played out. I don't think much of Monica or Courteney these days, but Chandler really is quite charming, and a few little extra pounds be damned. I'm afraid their engagment is going to get either very dull or too sugary very quickly, but for now, the balance is quite nice.

claire abraham wrote:

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Yeah, it was filler between the other plotlines.

Especially as the writers seem to have forgotten the bits on the episode where Joey buys an encyclopaedia volume which showed that the characters actually do talk about serious matters from time to time.

I'd been prepared to groan through his scenes but I thought he was quite good.

GREAT to see Ross actually standing up for himself for a change. He's been kicked in the head too many times.

Did give DS a chance to show off his physical comedy moves again.

Perhaps he's actually going to the gym he's signed up for for life (then again, I'm signed up for a gym for life but the place has been out of business for fifteen years ...).

Overall this episode came closer to striking the balance between pure joking and touching moments than most this season.

-- Jon jonathan roberts \ the region of where guitar:synth:notes \ "Music both ecrestic and neatrosolic."
Randy Hindsabrahammy

claire abraham wrote:

I agree. I think this was one of the best episodes this year. The characters as close as they've ever come this season to the characters they were years ago.

I think it was Rachel's way of calling him a geek. But I also really enjoyed that story also. It was very nicely done. I liked this Ross. He was himself "a man with a plan". . .I liked the interactions involving DS and Bruce Willis.

Unfortunately, that has pretty much been my criteria also. . .

I suppose if I were going to take my shirt off in front of millions of people, I'd buff out a little also . . . Actually, I noticed how buff DS was (and I'm not in the habit of noticing these things. . . ) when he took his "RELAX" tee shirt from Rachel years ago.

Ya. I hope she stays this way. It was a pleasant change. . .

Of course the Friends repeat that came on next (to round out the "full hour of Friends") was Monica at her worst - trying to seduce Chandler with a cold. .

I speak only for myself --Randy
ChrisRandy Hinds

Randy Hinds wrote:

Yeah, he does have some "guns" on him.

Chris

HelenaChris

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it's called training with the British army !! or was that after ?

Helena wrote:

I believe this episode was taped before David went to boot camp with the British army. He's obviously put in a great deal of training to get ready for the role.

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yup! he went to boot camp afterwards. i went to the taping of the show and they just said he trained and plus an insider said he was going to boot camp in a little bit.

~Sara~ "Hey, look at me! I'm Chandler. Could I BE wearing more clothes?" "They don't know that we know they know we know." "Actually, it's Ms. Chinandlor Bong." "My Bing-a-ling!"

ActiviaRandy Hinds

I'm still wondering why my newsreader marked all these as read when I havent read them yet!

Actually I didnt get these at first..isn't that bazaar?

Yep..

I thought they were great!

I would have to say 5 great performances.. I really enjoyed C&M this week.

YES, I remember that CLEARLY. That's when I noticed how buff he was.

Now I guess I just expect it from him.

EXTREMELY!

Yea, but I still dont think that episode is THAT bad. But man it made me miss Chandler(matthew) having short hair!

~Act

On Fri, 5 May 2000, Activia stated this considered view. Waking from my doze, I hastily scrawled -

No, but your spelling o' 'bizarre' was.! :)

Paul 'US Sitcom Fan' Hyett - The Wild Frame Grabber of the Net! Website at http://www.activist.demon.co.uk/USsitcoms/
ActiviaPaul Hyett

Have you still not realized that I can't spell?

~Act

Alanna Reganabrahammy

In article , claire abraham wrote:

Well, I agree with everything you said, Claire. For my two cents- I love when Rachel goes out of her way to help Ross out. Like in TOW Ross can't flirt (getting the pizza girl's phone number), and tonight when she tried to get him out of the cabin. And can you believe that Phoebe was actually social to Chandler- even went so far as to give him a big hug? So why does she feel the need to put him down when other people are around?

Alanna

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ActiviaAlanna Regan

I noticed that to. When she said to Monica "dont get me started on your boyfriend" then at the end she was soo happy for him and gave him a big giant hug. That was so sweet. I really dont think that she thinks he's bad at all. Actually remember them playing that game with the chairs at teh end of an episode a long time ago? It is only in front of others that she puts him down.

Reminds me of a few of my friends..

~Act

YA THAT WAS SWEET! HEHE! IT WAS THE TAPING I SAW! SORRY HADDED TO ADD THAT! ~Sara~ "Hey, look at me! I'm Chandler. Could I BE wearing more clothes?" "They don't know that we know they know we know." "Actually, it's Ms. Chinandlor Bong." "My Bing-a-ling!"

ActiviaSara

Do you like to keep rubbing it in? j/k

~Act

SaraActivia

lol sorry! i keep on forgeting where I've said it! ill mark alt.tv.friends on my list off...lol ~Sara~ "Hey, look at me! I'm Chandler. Could I BE wearing more clothes?" "They don't know that we know they know we know." "Actually, it's Ms. Chinandlor Bong." "My Bing-a-ling!"

Activiaabrahammy

claire abraham wrote:

I have..

That's funny cause that's exactly what I said. I think we are starting to have similar opinions.

I knew YOU would LOVE this storyline, as you knew I would love the C&M one. I really enjoyed this storyline too, but you saw that already :o)

Totally agree.

believe it or not I didn't notice! I dont know why..Maybe I am used to seeing it.

I know I was wondering why I only got one reply towards mine. I actually watched it again today and a tear did appear in my eyes cause I wasn't so over drugged from cough drops taht I had emotions!<my hacking cough is still bad if you are wondering>

I know it made my knees weak, and made me incrediably happy! All I have to say is WHY CANT THEY ALWAYS WRITE THEM LIKE THIS?

You could really tell that the cast had a great time with this episode and put everything into it because it really felt like it.

~Act

PS. Has anyone else thought that Pheobe's voice sound kinda weird the past 2 episodes?

Activiaabrahammy

Claire do you know who wrote this episode?

~Act