Just found out/ Great news for Americans!!

Dec 16, 2001, 5:33 PM ET45 posts by 12 posters
45 posts
Trigger
For all Americans who have been looking to be able to buy each season of
FRIENDS.  I just found out about VCD's (some of you may already know what I
am going to say).   If you have a DVD player you maybe able to play VCD's on
them.  But before you order your VCD's If I were you I  would check your DVD
player to see if they are compatable.  If you go to www.zoommovies.com you
can order every episode from every season of FRIENDS.  But not season 8 yet,
Duh!!  I hope this helps some of you who have been looking for every season
and if it didn't then I'm sorry.  But keep looking for the DVD's in the US!!
:)  Well, I now know what I want for Christmas.  I have just ordered season
seven (12 VCD's which each hold 3 episodes and for $59.99 for all).  Well,
good luck to all!
                                             -Sarah     aka "Trigger"
Keyser SozeTrigger

"Trigger" wrote in message news:1j9T7.19463$[email]...

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DVD

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US!!

season

Trigger is female. I had you down as a man.

TriggerKeyser Soze

Keyser Soze wrote in message news:[email]...

what

VCD's

you

Well,

Well, I rarely use my real name. Usually only if I am talking to Tennant. Hey buddy!!

Tennant StuartTrigger

In article , "Trigger" wrote:

Hi gal!!

Tennant

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JamesS1889Trigger

Netscape is unable to locate the server www.zoommovies.com

Please check the server name and try again. --- James Squire - http://members.aol.com/jamess1889
AfricanCougarJamesS1889

"JamesS1889" wrote..

Another website that sells Friends on VCD is http://www.vcdgallery.com; I have never ordered from them since I own the DVDs, but I just checked and they are selling each season for $63.00.

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Anna
TriggerJamesS1889

JamesS1889 wrote in message news:[email]...

Sorry it is www.zoommovie.com leave the s off of the end of movie(s)!!
Tennant StuartTrigger

In article , "Trigger" wrote:

That's more expensive than the DVDs, which are far higher quality.

Tennant

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AfricanCougarTennant Stuart

Before buying VCD's, you may also want to check your DVD player, just in case you discover it can become a multi-region player. I recently found out my portable DVD player can become a multi-region player after entering a code, and now I have all 7 seasons of Friends on DVD, shipped from England, which play beautifully. http://www.dvd.reviewer.co.uk/ is a good site to check, they have lists of DVD players which have the ability to become code free. Not that I'm advocating hacking into your DVD player, but it's an option available to some who don't want to buy VCD's (which are more expensive than the DVD's).

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Anna
Tennant StuartAfricanCougar

In article , [email] (AfricanCougar) wrote:

Actually, *all* DVD players can do this, it's just that the codes for some players are more secret than others.

Also, please note that region-free is *not* the same as multi-region.

Tennant Stuart

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XMuSicFrEAk820Tennant Stuart

Exactly how would you change the Region code onan American DVD player? And is there some website that possibly let us know what the region codes are?

----------Matt----------------- Visit my web-site: The One With the Uncut Friends Scripts http://uncutfriendsepisodes.tripod.com
AfricanCougarXMuSicFrEAk820

"XMuSicFrEAk820"wrote...

Since just about every model of every particular DVD player has a different hack that turns it into multi-region, it makes things slightly more difficult. There is not one code that will turn any Region 1 DVD player (which Americans use) into a multi-region player. Instead, you have to search out your particular model (such as mine, the Aiwa DVD-DW5 or the Sony DreamSystem, etc.), and if in fact a code is known for that model, then you can use it to transform your player into multi-region. Many models, although they must have a code, are not known (I have not seen any codes for Sony DVD players). Depending on what you are willing to sacrifice for the benefit of being able to order all of the seasons of Friends on DVD, there are many cheap(er) DVD players to be found in America that have known codes. To find some of these, either go to the site I posted earlier (http://www.dvd.reviewer.co.uk/info/multiregion/default.asp), try this site - http://www.dvd365.net/?hacks.htm , or type "multi-region dvd" into any search engine. Another option is to visit the rec.video.dvd.tech newsgroup, where many people post similar queries about how to make their DVD player multi-region. Hope that helps! Good luck!

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Anna
Paul HyettTennant Stuart

On Tue, 18 Dec 2001, Tennant Stuart stated this considered view. Waking from my doze, I hastily scrawled -

Not mine, alas.

About the only shop I've seen that'll admit their players aren't just R2 is the local Sony shop - they will chip their DVD players for an extra �30.

What's the difference then?

Paul 'US Sitcom Fan' Hyett - The Wild Frame Grabber of the Net! Website at http://www.activist.demon.co.uk/USsitcoms/
Tennant StuartPaul Hyett

In article , Paul Hyett wrote:

Oh yes it can, you just don't know what the secret is.

Hehe - that's a nice little earner for them.

See my other posting at 19:38 yesterday.

Tennant

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Paul HyettTennant Stuart

On Thu, 20 Dec 2001, Tennant Stuart stated this considered view. Waking from my doze, I hastily scrawled -

A year of searching has come up blank (FYI : Sharp DV-600).

Paul 'US Sitcom Fan' Hyett - The Wild Frame Grabber of the Net! Website at http://www.activist.demon.co.uk/USsitcoms/
Tennant StuartPaul Hyett

In article , Paul Hyett wrote:

That's what meant by a secret, you not being able to find it out.

Tennant

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TriggerTennant Stuart

Tennant Stuart wrote in message news:[email]...

Yes but this is Americans only shot for every season. By the way, does anyone know if you can get TOW The Stuff You've never seen on VCD. They have left it off of series 7. Thanks!!

~*cAnDiEs gUrL*~Trigger

hi i am new to this group! my name is Kristina and i am 14 and am obsessed with friends and anything that has to do with FRIENDS! All my friends think i am crazy! Well anyway i was just wondering what address that is because zoommovies .com wont work, what VCDs are, how do i know if my dvd player can play them, and where and how do i order them? please post back thank you bye bye

kristina louise

Tennant StuartTrigger

In article , "Trigger" wrote:

That's gonna be a lot of shelf space when you have all 16 seasons.

Each DVD holds 8 episodes, which is much neater.

It's not Americans only, there is no regional coding on VCDs, that's all.

Americans can easily play DVDs from other regions, if they're clever.

That's what I'm talking about, *complete* seasons for a lot less money, of a much higher picture & sound quality, taking up less shelf space.

Tennant

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JamesS1889Trigger

In article , "Trigger" writes:

Since season 7 had nowhere near 36 episodes, this makes no sense to me. The most any season has had is 25 or possibly 26.

Meanwhile, the website you mentioned is still not there. --- James Squire - http://members.aol.com/jamess1889
AeridalaJamesS1889

the website is actually www.zoommovie.com that link should work.

"JamesS1889" wrote in message news:[email]...

"Trigger"

season

Well,

The

TriggerAeridala

Aeridala wrote in message news:OUrT7.847$[email]...

Yes, I accidently added an s at the end of movie!! Sorry

Tennant StuartJamesS1889

In article , [email] (JamesS1889) wrote:

Most episodes need more than one-third of a VCD's capacity, unless the quality is even more poor than usual. There are 8 episodes on a DVD.

Tennant

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elainebabyTennant Stuart

Tennant Stuart wrote in message news:...

All 7 seasons of vcds are up for auction on ebay and are only at $81 for them all.

http://cgi6.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?MfcISAPICommand=ViewListedItems&userid=elainebaby&include=0&since=-1&sort=3&rows=25
Tennant Stuartelainebaby

In article , [email] (elainebaby) wrote:

That's low, but isn't that just a *starting* price for the auction?

Tennant Stuart

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Alex WashtellTennant Stuart

"Tennant Stuart" wrote in message news:[email]...

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4 Different episodes at least, from Season 7. I'm assuming WB are gonna be stingy with the Season 8 DVDs, as with the Season 7 ones.

Al

JamesS1889Tennant Stuart

In article , Tennant Stuart writes:

I think that's an answer to someone else's question. It certainly isn't an answer to mine. --- James Squire - http://members.aol.com/jamess1889
Tennant StuartJamesS1889

In article , [email] (JamesS1889) wrote:

Sorry James, but it was meant to be. If the episodes are longer than one third of a VCD, then you can only put two on a disc, so 12 discs would hold 24 instead of 36. I know you could split the episodes up to use fewer discs, but presumably the 'publisher' didn't do that.

Tennant

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JamesS1889Tennant Stuart

In article , Tennant Stuart writes:

Sorry, Tennant, but I'm not the one that claimed there were 36 episodes on 12 discs. You need to tell that to the original poster. I was asking how in the world anyone could think that there were 36 episodes in season 7. Frankly this whole VCD as originally posed by the original poster sounds like it's not quite on the up and up, so to speak. I haven't wasted a moment's sleep wondering whether to go for this offer. --- James Squire - http://members.aol.com/jamess1889

Tennant StuartJamesS1889

In article , [email] (JamesS1889) wrote:

Me neither, James.

Tennant

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SofyaTrigger

1) what are VCD's, what do they look like(i have a Samsung CD/VCD/DVD player). 2) what do you mean, multi-region and region free, ppl.? 3) There ARE Friends DVDs in America, you can order them online on the Friends site or practically any shopping site.

Sofya

"Trigger" wrote in message news:1j9T7.19463$[email]...

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AfricanCougarSofya

1) A VCD is a Video Compact Disc that contains video and audio. It is capable of holding up to 74 minutes of full-motion video with sound. VCD's use MPEG-1 standard to store video and audio in a high density form, as opposed to DVD's, which use MPEG-2. MPEG-1 is a standards independent format used worldwide, therefore it is not restricted to specific region codes. VCDs will play on a variety of platforms, including computers, DVD players, VCD players, and game systems (such as Playstation 2). If you'd like to find out more on VCDs, I suggest you visit the FAQ at http://www.vcdgallery.com.

2) Region codes are particular to a geographic location. For example, European DVD players are built to play Region 2 DVDs (which are sold in Europe), whereas North American DVD players play Region 1 DVDs. Region 1 DVD players will not play Region 2 DVDs unless you use a code that will make them multi-region. Multi-region simply means that the DVD player will play DVDs from any region, meaning you can play DVDs from all over the world. If you live in America, this is the only way to play entire seasons of Friends on DVD, which you must order from Europe, since that is the only place they are sold at the moment. Code-free means the DVD player has been constructed to already play DVDs from all over the world, and no code is needed to break through the restriction.

3) Yes, there are Friends DVDs sold in America, but not entire seasons. We can only buy the Best of Friends Volume Sets, of which there are 4, with 5 episodes on each, bringing us to a total of 20 Friends episodes on DVD. In Europe, entire seasons of Friends are sold on DVD (Season 1, Season 2, etc.). This means that, essentially, you could own every single episode of Friends ever made, with the exception of Season 8, which has not yet been released on DVD there. Since I have entered a code to make my DVD player multi-region, meaning it will play DVDs from anywhere in the world, I have been able to order all of the seasons of Friends on DVD from England, have them shipped here, and watch them whenever I want. Unless you have entered the specific code for your DVD player that will make it multi-region, or unless you already own a DVD player that has been built code-free, DVDs from Europe will not play on an American-made DVD player, instead, you will receive a message to the effect of "Code Violation - DVD cannot play."

Hope that helps!

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Anna
Tennant StuartAfricanCougar

In article , [email] (AfricanCougar) wrote:

Ooh, I always wondered what would happen! n/k

Tennant Stuart

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Tennant StuartSofya

In article , "Sofya" wrote:

VCDs are CDs with video data on them instead of music.

They look like DVDs, but have less capacity, though no regional coding.

There are also super versions of VCDs, called SVCDs.

A region-free player ignores the regional coding, but some discs check to see what it's doing, and turn themselves off. A multi-region player looks at the regional coding, then turns itself into that region. Some region-free players are described as being multi-region, so take care.

All DVD players are really multi-region players, but the facility is usually turned off, and protected by a secret code. Some codes are very secret. It is also possible to turn off the Macrovision on all players, but the code for that is often extremely secret.

The reason for this is that nobody makes machines for America, or any other country, they're made for the world. Any differences you see are just a con trick to lock you into one market. Meaanwhile, restrictions like regional coding or Macrovision would prevent engineers from doing their jobs, so there is always a back door in the software.

Yes I know, many people in Britain have multi-region players, and we get all the latest Hollywood movies, often before they go on sale in the USA, although the best versions may well come from Canada, Australia or here.

So far, the Region 1 "Friends" DVDs have merely been best-of collections, and although most are extended versions, they are *not* uncut; and a show like "Friends" has long-running stories that demand the complete seasons that we enjoy on Region 2 DVDs. The good news is you can buy them too.

Tennant Stuart

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JamesS1889Tennant Stuart

In article , Tennant Stuart writes:

I know I'm going to regret this, but just how are they *not* uncut? What has been cut from them? --- James Squire - http://members.aol.com/jamess1889
Tennant StuartJamesS1889

In article , [email] (JamesS1889) wrote:

Scenes that we know about from filming reports, that did not make it onto the DVDs. A notoriously disappointing example is the tag to 715 "TOW Joey's New Brain", in which Phoebe & Ross perform together on guitar & bagpipes at Central Perk. They had invited all their friends, but none of them turned up. There is a photograph of this scene in the 2002 "Friends" calendar.

Tennant

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Paul HyettTennant Stuart

On Thu, 27 Dec 2001, Tennant Stuart stated this considered view. Waking from my doze, I hastily scrawled -

I've been looking for that, but I haven't seen it in any shop.

Paul 'US Sitcom Fan' Hyett - The Wild Frame Grabber of the Net! Website at http://www.activist.demon.co.uk/USsitcoms/
JamesS1889Tennant Stuart

In article , Tennant Stuart writes:

I don't remember, did this scene appear when this episode was shown in the USA on NBC? --- James Squire - http://members.aol.com/jamess1889
Tennant StuartJamesS1889

In article , [email] (JamesS1889) wrote:

No.

Tennant

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JamesS1889Tennant Stuart

In article , Tennant Stuart writes:

I would still call it "uncut", but I understand what you mean. I figure we could keep identifying scenes that could have been added in until the cows come home and never really exhaust them all. To me, it is enough that the version on the DVD is more complete than the broadcast version.
Tennant StuartJamesS1889

In article , [email] (JamesS1889) wrote:

Since you claim to understand me, I'll let that pass, but I so disagree.

Not at all, we stop once we're given all the scenes which were filmed.

Not to me, I want the complete version. I suppose you're happy that the 'uncut' version of 717 "TOW the Cheap Wedding Dress" contains a massive three additional lines of dialogue...

WAITER: Geller, table of two?

ROSS: (to Joey) You hungry?

JOEY: Does a bear shit in the woods?

..even though an awful amount of filmed material is missing, including the show's first-ever scene of proper male violent aggression, Kristen getting involved in the argument at the restaurant, and ritual magic.

Tennant

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JamesS1889Tennant Stuart

In article , Tennant Stuart writes:

How do you know what all scenes were filmed? More importantly, see below.

I haven't even watched Volumes 3 and 4 yet, so I can't say.

Well, I have no idea what you are talking about, so my initial reaction to your example ("thank God!") might not be valid.

Some scenes, Tenant, may just be cut because *they don't work*, not just because there is not enough room for them.

Obviously the DVD's aren't as valuable if there aren't extras, and in the case of Friends it just about has to be extra scenes because the cast interviews and behind the scenes info on Volumes 1 and 2 frankly sucked. So of course the more additional scenes there are, the better.

But I want quality as well as quantity, and frankly the one scene you say was added I am not much enamored of. I can see why they cut it for the broadcast version. I'm not sure I understand why they filmed it in the first place, and maybe someone on the show wondered the same thing.

I will admit that in the episode you mentioned, I am left wondering what other scenes might have been added in (I'm taking your word that was the only one missing from the broadcast version in the US) but weren't. That is disappointing.

But I don't want everything no matter what the quality. I would be more than happy with those scenes that were *only* cut for time. --- James Squire - http://members.aol.com/jamess1889
Tennant StuartJamesS1889

In article , [email] (JamesS1889) wrote:

Highly detailed filming reports from people who were in the studio audience.

717 isn't on the "Best of Friends" collection, I'm talking about the whole of Season 7 available on DVD in Europe.

Our DVDs have both the broadcast version, and an extended version, so if you don't like the extra scenes, you don't have to watch them. Personally, I'd rather have everything available, and then I'll make my own mind up.

As for the scene which started this conversation (Ross & Phoebe playing a bagpipe/guitar duet in Central Perk) those people who saw it liked it.

Tennant

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JamesS1889Tennant Stuart

In article , Tennant Stuart writes:

That's what I figured.

If it isn't on the Best of Friends collection, why are we even talking about it? My initial query was based on your statement about Region 1 "Friends" DVDs, which as you pointed out were "merely been best-of collections, and although most are extended versions, they are *not* uncut".
Tennant StuartJamesS1889

In article , [email] (JamesS1889) wrote:

Okay.

Never mind about it James, let's not get into another long wrangle.

Tennant

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