Joey Spin-off: Official

Jul 24, 2003, 1:01 PM ET31 posts by 17 posters
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AlethaAnne

NBC has sitcom plans for 'Friends' pal Joey By Gary Levin, USA TODAY LOS ANGELES — Joey Tribbiani is headed for California — and life without Friends.

Will Joey make it without his Friends?

NBC today plans to announce a deal with Matt LeBlanc to star in Joey, a Friends spinoff featuring one of the more beloved characters from TV's top-rated comedy.

The series, which won't include any other Friends cast members, will premiere in September 2004, almost certainly in the newly vacated Thursday at 8 p.m. ET/PT time slot, after Friends ends its 10th and final season in May.

No script has been written, but the show is believed to be based on a scenario in which Joey moves to Los Angeles to pursue his acting career, probably to be joined by a love interest and an ensemble cast.

Friends creators Marta Kauffman and David Crane aren't involved in the project — they said last year that they had no interest in a spinoff — but partner and Friends veteran Kevin S. Bright will executive-produce the series along with Scott Silveri and Shana Goldberg-Meehan. They've written recent story lines about soap actor Joey, who has become a more prominent character in the past two seasons.

LeBlanc will take a significant pay cut from the roughly $1 million per episode that he'll make for the final season of Friends. And unlike with other star-driven series, he won't be a producer. But he'll have input into casting and earn a greater share of the show's profits if it's successful.

A Joey spinoff has been in the discussion stages for nearly two years but has been put off each time Friends has been extended for an additional season.

Yet Friends producers, Warner Bros. Television and NBC insist this will be the final season, with only 18 episodes produced instead of the customary 22.

All along they saw LeBlanc — who won his second Emmy nomination last week — as the likeliest spinoff character.

Top candidate Jennifer Aniston expressed zero interest in continuing the role of Rachel, and an idea to pair Joey with Matthew Perry's Chandler Bing in a buddy comedy was rejected as too limiting.

Either way, it's clear that NBC needs some help: The network hasn't found a new comedy hit since Will & Grace premiered in 1998, and both Friends and the fading Frasier will be history in May. With CBS winning Thursdays last season, NBC views Joey as an insurance policy to protect its most important night.

No one expects Joey to capture as large an audience as Friends, which averaged nearly 22 million viewers last season. And the history of successful comedy spinoffs is limited: For every Frasier (spawned from Cheers), there are several After M*A*S*Hes that quickly faded. Joey will be expensive by new-sitcom standards, costing NBC nearly $2 million an episode, but still far short of the $10 million that the network is shelling out for the final year of Friends.

ChristopherAlethaAnne

On 24 Jul 2003 17:01:55 GMT, [email] (AlethaAnne) wrote:

I wish them the best of luck, as their going to need it.

Christopher "There's a light at the end of the tunnel" says the optimist. "It's probably a train coming
AlethaAnneChristopher

I love Matt and I love Joey, but this seems like a bad idea to me.

All you R&R fans, get out your party hats and set your VCR's. Matt LeBlanc just handed you a Ross and Rachel finale.

CarolineAlethaAnne

I'll second that. :(

Not necessarily. Maybe Joey taking on a new life will inspire her, and she'll want to strike off on her own (which of course we won't see). But you're more likely to be right than I am!

Caroline

hotmamasitaAlethaAnne

[email] (AlethaAnne) wrote in message news:...

There is a g-d. But I think we all pretty much knew the show wouldn't end w/ rachel and joey.

Kathyhotmamasita

Barf. ~~~ Kathy

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ChristopherKathy

On Thu, 24 Jul 2003 19:08:18 -0400, "Kathy" wrote:

Big round of applause for Kathy for that enlightened contribution.

Christopher "There's a light at the end of the tunnel" says the optimist. "It's probably a train coming
KathyChristopher

Oh, thank you, thank you (blush)!! Considering some of your replies, mine is pure Shakespere!!! ~~~ Kathy

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ChristopherKathy

On Fri, 25 Jul 2003 11:24:14 -0400, "Kathy" wrote:

There's two a's in Shakespeare. ;-)

Christopher "There's a light at the end of the tunnel" says the optimist. "It's probably a train coming
PamelaChristopher

I don't know if this was a good idea, you saw how all the cast of "Seinfeld" bombed? Fraiser did well but that was a great chance of luck. It might be better to leave the friends cast as they were as a success and not prehaps leave a smudge in their exit with a good chance to fail spin off sitcom like this. Well, being it's already done I hope that it does well and is a good show.

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G823905Pamela

Sienfield cast did not have spin-offs. They played completely new charecters. the sucsess of the Joey show will depend on the writting, and situation and supporting cast. The two writters creating the new show are very good. Lets wait and see.

ChristopherG823905

On 24 Jul 2003 20:23:17 GMT, [email] (G823905) wrote:

But Joeys side kick was Chandler, and without Chandler the 'jokes' will be as flat as a pancake, even with the rent a laugh audience or even worse canned laughter.

Christopher "There's a light at the end of the tunnel" says the optimist. "It's probably a train coming
CarolineChristopher

Christopher wrote:

I agree. The only way a spinoff like that would ever have worked would be to keep the Joey/Chandler relationship intact, and since Chandler's married they couldn't have him without Monica, and CCA probably wouldn't be interested in "Friends II".

Caroline

madhukar_bmCaroline

Caroline wrote in message news:...

I totally agree with you, Joey with chandler will be extreamly better then without chandler. The two make a great comedy pair and I really find it painfull that Chandler charector is normally ignored by viewers and EMMY nominations too. If we think on these lines Phoebe and Ross too are not far behind. They are never applauded for their comic timing. I hope spinoff works but the real thing would be Friends season 11. What do you say people. Thanks & regards Madhukar

KarenChristopher

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I'm sure I'm in the minority here, but I would agree with you more a couple seasons ago. Joey was definitely Chandler's side-kick. In the last few though, I personally think he's emerged into so much more, and he's shown a lot more depth of character, and I think could stand on his own in a series without Chandler (hey, wouldn't that be funny to see him with Chandler's old roommate, Eddie? :)

PamelaKaren

Well okay it wasn't a spin off but it was the same characters in a different show. There is always a bad percentage of spin offs and unless this show is really good which I hope it is then it'll add a sour note to the end of Friends :( "Karen" wrote in message news:3f205a19$0$154$[email]...

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MibbitmakerPamela

Happily I'm in the majority here.

A Joey spin-off is a bad idea. A very bad idea. He's one of 6 leads in a show called Friends. I think it's not good to spin off 1/6th of the heart and soul of a show into another show. It's not even a matter of whether it succeeds or fails; it shouldn't be done in the first place. They should've listened to Friends' creators.

I remember 10 years ago, when there was the original idea of spinning off Frasier Crane from Cheers. Most media and critics were doubting a show lead by a Cheers supporting player, or that Frasier wasn't a solid enough character to support a seroes of his own. To me, however, it sounded like a great idea. Frasier was a great character, and the idea of his own show seemed like a natural. Against all the media tide, I ended up being right!

Just like my positive feeling about Frasier, I have an inate feeling a Joey spin-off is a bad idea.

Also, I vastly prefer the show ends with the 6 friends together. There's already a sense of spoiler about this decision. Even if Friends ends with 6 friends bonded together, the Joey series makes it a lie. This, generally at least, is like another AfterMASH. If it does fail, it'd have to be non-canon, like it never happened. The only way I can feel good about this spin-off is if it happens in an 'alternate universe'. The Joey we know is still in NY, on a soap, with his buddies. The 'new' Joey is in LA doing movies. Hell, maybe even an eventual reunion with, say, Chandler, could be a Chandler Joey never knew, and only we in the TV audience would be in on the inside joke. But I doubt that's what they have in mind.

Granted, I will still watch it... but under protest.

As for Ross/Rachel/Joey, again, Joey and Rachel are a great *story*. But, in the end, Ross and Rachel is destiny; not in the gushing, nauseatingly-romantic sense, like ooh, I wanna see R&R together, oo, luv!! - it just seems like a given to me. If the spin-off underlines that, then that, at least, os cool.

But, honestly, if Matt LeBlanc might like a sitcom of his own, give him a new character. Joey belongs in the Friends 'universe'.

Just like a network, always wanting to milk a good thing. :o(
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Isn't it the same type of situation? Everyone in Cheers together at end, then Frasier moves to Seattle...everyone in Friends together at end, then Joey moves to Los Angeles.

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So Frasier is really still in Boston with a beard and we are watching an alternate-universe Frasier?

Lee JamilkowskiKaren

Well, I'm not going to be a naysayer myself. I am going to be optimistic that Joey will be to Friends what Frasier is to Cheers (which may be a good or bad thing, depending on your point of view). But I am going to wait and see... soon enough, we will know whether it's a good show or not.

But, I guess this means sooner or later, alt.tv.joey is going to need to be started.

Paul HyettKaren

In alt.tv.friends on Thu, 24 Jul 2003 at 17:20:28, Karen wrote :

No way in hell - IMO Eddie was one of the worst incidental characters ever.

Paul 'US Sitcom Fan' Hyett Website at http://www.activist.demon.co.uk/USsitcoms/
JessPaul Hyett

On Fri, 25 Jul 2003 08:40:09 +0100, Paul Hyett wrotE:

I'm glad you said that! I didn't care for him either. He just kind of got on my nerves everytime he started to talk. I think the part could have had so much more potential....

ChristopherJess

On Mon, 28 Jul 2003 13:57:33 GMT, [email] (Jess) wrote:

I think you missed the point in that part of the story, Eddie was supposed to be like that, as he was the room mate from hell, so Chandler would want Joey back.

Christopher "There's a light at the end of the tunnel" says the optimist. "It's probably a train coming
JessChristopher

On Tue, 29 Jul 2003 09:08:11 GMT, [email] (Christopher) wrotE:

lol, no no, I know that. But I didn't think he was as much the roommate from hell as he was an annoying actor in that part. Everytime I see him on TV now I have to change the channel, he drives me insane.

ChristopherJess

On Tue, 29 Jul 2003 12:08:04 GMT, [email] (Jess) wrote:

We'll that could be classified as a tribute to his profession. ;-)

lol

Christopher "There's a light at the end of the tunnel" says the optimist. "It's probably a train coming
SaveWinona06Jess

"You're INSANE Jack!"

Oh Eddie... I loved that character. Man, I miss those early seasons... god bless DVD.

Shan

ChristopherKaren

On Thu, 24 Jul 2003 17:20:28 -0500, "Karen" wrote:

The guy who wonderfully played Eddie or the room mate from hell, is doing A level movies now, and I dout he'd want to go back to doing TV work.

Christopher "There's a light at the end of the tunnel" says the optimist. "It's probably a train coming
Paul HyettChristopher

In alt.tv.friends on Thu, 24 Jul 2003 at 17:55:45, Christopher wrote :

Without guest spots from Friends cast members, I suspect it'll perform like the Titanic *after* it hit the iceberg!

Paul 'US Sitcom Fan' Hyett Website at http://www.activist.demon.co.uk/USsitcoms/
Jonathan RobertsAlethaAnne

Only question is: which Joey will be featured on the show? The guy who can't spell "Baby" or the one who knows what "mediocre" means?

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JessJonathan Roberts

On Sat, 26 Jul 2003 04:39:47 GMT, Jonathan Roberts wrotE:

Haha, see, that's the beauty of Joey's character. He seems so dumb, but every once in awhile he will surprise you with saying something intelligent. Like in TOW the cuffs, where he learns all that info from the encyclopedia... so he *does* have potential.

Carsten FaltinJess

The whisper of Jess resounds through the universe:

Or he does something clever, like turning off the heater in TOW Phoebe's Dad, S02E09. by Carsten

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JessCarsten Faltin

On Mon, 28 Jul 2003 21:50:49 +0200, Carsten Faltin wrotE:

Ah, good example. I forgot about that.