I found this link telling us that CBS has officially decided to air Survivor II against Friends on Thursday nights. Personally I think it sucks, because I do believe that Friends will get killed in this ratings war.
If CBS really wants a challenge, they should put it up against er.
http://www.eonline.com/News/Items/0,1,7541,00.html?eol.tkr
i agree. Plus Survivor's viewers are much more diverse than friends'.
SHNOCODY wrote:
Good. Maybe that will shake the self-congratulatory complacency of the writing staff and they'll rediscover their roots.
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Actually, though, I did think about one thing. During the first Survivor, I found the first half hour to be boring. All they did was talk about the one castaway who's about to get the boot. If that continues with Survivor II, then Friends has a good chance of winning its time slot. It's the rest of the hour that Survivor will win the ratings in. The last half hour involves the eliminating round and the tribal council votes. Friends will be alright, but CBS' strategy is still a bit shaky.
Exactly!!!!
Appy
sorry, that won't happen.....Let's be realistic. I don't consider myself the average American tv viewer, but over the summer, i found myself and my family glued to the tv throughout the entire show.
There is NO chance Friends can beat Survivor 2, Survivor 1 got ratings of about 30 Nielsen points, Friends usually gets somewhere in the area of 11. Also, mainly 14-35 year old watch Friends, but Survivor is watched religiously by old ladies and nine-year-olds alike.
On Sun, 24 Dec 2000 20:30:42 GMT, DANNY D'ADDARIO wrote:
I agree. Survivor II will definitely beat Friends. After the huge ratings they got last summer, they can easily beat Friends. Not to mention the fact that Survivor II may get even more viewers than Survivor I. That's what happened over here when the second season of Survivor aired this fall.
What? You saw survivor already??
I hope that Claire is right about this competition forcing the friends writers to pull out all the stops. To combat survivor, they might have to create some BIG storylines, i.e. ross and rachel reunion (fingers crossed). Then again they just might get another big celebrity like Brad Pitt and give them a stupid role and a stupid storyline and think that that'll do the job. And from what we've seen so far this season, i don't the think the writers are smart or creative enough to accomplish such a large feat.
On 25 Dec 2000 02:46:15 GMT, [email] (SHNOCODY) wrote:
You Americans aren't the only ones with Survivor... :) Actually, it's a Swedish concept. We call it "Expedition Robinson", though. Last year's winner was the host this time around, and surprisingly enough, a young woman won. The show made *huge* headlines every week.
I'm afraid that will happen. I've enjoyed most of the season this far, but let's face it, Survivor was such a hit last time, that I bet most Americans want to see the next season as well.
The reason why I think Friends STILL has a chance of beating Survivor II is that Survivor II is the same as the first Survivor. There are no new rules or tricks or whatever, and so Survivor II will have the same mumbo jumbo as the first one...which is why I think not that many people will care for it. I mean, the first couple of episodes will do great in the ratings, but people will probably start to realize that its the same as the first one, and its nothing new. People might get bored of it. Plus, the first of a series is usually the best one.
I think Survivor 2 is gonna kick Friends' ass..unfortunately. I was thinking what kind of implications this might have for the WB. They're not going to want to lose the title of #1 comedy in America..so I see them trying to get the show moved to 9, or doing something desperate to make sure people watch. Since the show has lost some of it's buzz, I was thinking, could this possibly push R&R back together? Now, I'm what you would consider a R&R fan (I'm pretty neutral), but I can see this happening if they really consider Survivor to be a threat. If they promise a R&R reunion and hype it for Feb. sweeps, I think Friends would get some really high ratings. It might, however, push back any other storylines, like any Phoebe or Joey developments, which could be a bad thing..
Well, we'll see if there is any reaction from NBC/the WB soon enough.
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I honestly hate survivor, I thought it was dumb...so I'll be watching Friends (as usual).
Rob P.S.: Merry Christmas people, even though none of you know me...
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Look I think you are all wrong. Friends will have their loyal viewers and they will do well against survvor 2. And CBS is that stupid to put it against Friends. I for one watch both and I will watch Friends and that means they will loose me and alot more people that watch survivor. SO i think it will be very close and they both are going to drop in ratings. I think that Survivor 2 should be on another night or Friends to go to 9 and thursday to do this: 8 ER 9 Friends 930 Just Shoot Me 10Will and Grace 1030Cursed or whatever its called.
But NBC and CBS shoudl do themselves a favour and change the slots. ER would do so much better against survivor than Friends.
I dooon't know about that. What i'll probably do is watch survivor, and tape friends. To me, it makes much more sense to tape the half hour show, because you can fit more episodes on one tape.
On Mon, 25 Dec 2000, Rob stated this considered view. Waking from my doze, I hastily scrawled -
What is 'Survivor' anyway?
On Mon, 25 Dec 2000 08:16:38 +0000, Paul Hyett wrote:
Think Big Brother on a desert island. Or in Survivor II's case, the Australian wilderness. It's great fun. :)
who won big brother? I didn't even know it ended.
Which Big Brother? In the US show, Eddie was the winner.
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In UK, Craig was the winner
On Mon, 25 Dec 2000, Marita stated this considered view. Waking from my doze, I hastily scrawled -
Unless the desert island has just me & Brooke Shields on it, I'm not interested! :)
Not something I'd want to watch though.
Cold shower, that way.
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On Tue, 26 Dec 2000, Coca-Cola stated this considered view. Waking from my doze, I hastily scrawled -
Can Brooke join me? That should heat up the water! :)
<shakes head and smiles> You're encouragable, it probably could get you your dream one day. Yeah she can join you if she wants to.
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Incorrigible? <just wondering>
Tennant
Maybe I am at that but you certainly are. :)
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On Wed, 27 Dec 2000, Coca-Cola stated this considered view. Waking from my doze, I hastily scrawled -
Are you sure you don't mean incorrigible? :)
Judging on the fact I had to look that word up earlier today when someone else challenged me I'm totally sure I meant encouragable, yes I know it's not a word but it's what I meant.
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In article , "Coca-Cola" wrote:
Predisposed.
Tennant
Paul Hyett wrote:
I don't know if the English version of Big Brother was watchable; ours was absolutely deadly and I never got through an entire episode. Survivor had me rivited in spite of myself. Survivor is not Big Brother on an island. I don't know why it's not, but it's not.
On Tue, 26 Dec 2000 23:41:28 GMT, Claire Abraham wrote:
You probably will get to see it someday. I'd be very surprised if British TV won't do a show like this.
I used Big Brother because I know how famous that program is in the UK. Maybe it wasn't Big Brother on a desert island in the USA, but over here it was definitely reality-TV where you got almost *too* much information about the contestants. It seemed like there were people coming out of the closet in every episode, and when they were not complaining about how much they missed their partners back home, they were either proposing to their boyfriend/girlfriend (a very hyped episode indeed) or backstabbing the other castaways. Of course there was a "Survivor-Bitch" among the contestants who p***** everybody off, but Survivor isn't about being nice to each other, it's about doing everything in your power to get the big prize. :)
On Tue, 26 Dec 2000, Claire Abraham stated this considered view. Waking from my doze, I hastily scrawled -
It didn't appeal to me either, but it annihilated Channel 4 ratings records (previously held by Friends (London)). :(
In article , Claire Abraham wrote:
I never watched it at all, but apparently more people were voting who should next leave the house than voted in the European elections.
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Claire Abraham wrote:
I just stayed miles away from any of that cr--. I did not watch one minute of either show. Given the choice of those two and a good book, the book wins every time -- come to think of it even a poor book wins.
Given only those choices on teevee, I'll just work on my music...
I was one of those people in the UK that swore they wouldn't watch it despite all the media frenzy surrounding it. I'd seen the results of the Dutch version and felt that it was all a quick way for ten people to get famous by doing nothing. It was after I'd spent a very heated afternoon arguing about it with my date that my opinions about it shifted somewhat (incredibly good looking females can be somewhat persuasive. :) and I was determined to give it another chance.
The first Big Brother show I sat down to watch was the week in which one of the contestants was accused and convicted of cheating, he'd been influencing the nomination process with secret meetings and notes. The whole saga had been dragged out over several days with the others raiding the cheater's belongings to get proof, house meetings where he systematically denied any wrong doings, him collapsing into tears and people feeling sorry for him wondering how he was going to cope in the outside world with the media attention to him finally leaving the house. At first I thought 'Nasty' Nick needed mental help until I realised what he was doing, not only was he manipulating the other housemates but also the producers, public and most importantly the media. He had quite easily turned what could just have been five minutes of fame as one of the evicted housemates into something more and while I didn't like the guy he had my respect.
Big Brother was full of these high drama moments and kept me watching all the way to the end. Mel (who claims to have been chosen because the producers were looking for a stereotypical vixen character. She also claimed not to be that stereotype but plainly was especially with her response to her mother when talking about the show later) and the other housemates accidentally heard Darren nominating her for eviction and forced him to change his mind leading her to escape nomination until the next week where she subsequently evicted by the public. Craig, who won Big Brother at what can only be described as a mad finale with what seemed like the population of London around the grounds of the house, within seconds of him leaving the house had given all the money he had won to a young girl he had known from home (the whole reason why he was doing the show) to go towards the cost of an operation she needed to save her life.
With the UK version of Survivor to appear on our screens soon it remains to be seen if it will be as popular or will be hit by a backlash that Big Brother 2 might experience when it arrives again in the summer. How long before the shelf life of these reality based gameshows expires?
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