NOT HIM AGAIN!:

Aug 24, 2002, 2:07 PM ET22 posts by 11 posters
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Dan Sgambelluri

Former Vice President Dan Quayle is dragging out the old family values again. Known for harping on Murphy Brown's single mom status, he recently told Travel and Leisure Golf magazine that he also has a bone to pick with Friends. "I don't think that should be portrayed on television as a good thing," he said regarding Jennifer Aniston's Rachel having a baby out of wedlock. "It's tough on the mother and it's tough on the child - the chance of that child ending up in poverty is quite high." And we thought the biggest Friends dilemma was if Rachel would pick Ross or Joey.

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abrahammyDan Sgambelluri

"Dan Sgambelluri" wrote in message news:rXP99.204341$[email]...

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I wonder if he really watched the shows. Rachel has found the whole thing really frightening and stressful, so it has indeed been tough on her. Furthermore, she is currently living with the father, has a very strong support group, and has a good, stable job, so poverty is not actually all that likely - in this particular situation. It is extremely likely she will be married to *somebody* by the show's end. His comment is pontificating in a vaccuum.

David Buehrleabrahammy

"abrahammy" wrote in message news:dnU99.5384$[email]...

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All true, and well put.

It's all happening in his own head--my apologies for being redundant with your comment. ;-)

HollyDavid Buehrle

"the chance of that child ending up in poverty is quite high."

Um he does realise that it's a TV show doesn't he?!

I think they did amazingly portraying how difficult Rachel would find the pregnancy and then after wards. She and Ross did the correct thing by living together. The baby has both parents, so I see no problem.

res0vdhdHolly

"Holly" wrote in message news:[email]...

Sorry, but I do not think they did the right thing by living together. If they are not married living together means neither parent is capable of forming a relationship with another person. In addition if one of them did fall in love and marry someone else the child would be in the same situation as a child of a divorced couple. Living together is the worse thing they could do, because the child will witness the nasty way they treat each other and this is the behavior she will learn. In addition if one of them tries to form a relationship with someone else the child will directly witness the pain of the one left at home. If Rachel is not married and committed to the father of her child she should be living in her own apartment.

Katie

ladysycamoreres0vdhd

Married couples go through the same thing, so what's the problem?

Married couples technically "live together" and can treat each other in nasty ways as well. Again...problem?

Marriage is not a guarantee of "happiness".

Prayer of Jabez: www.prayerofjabez.com War is easy...peace takes work! Work for PEACE! re-87
res0vdhdladysycamore

"ladysycamore" wrote in message news:[email]...

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Given that we live in a society that forbids polygamy married couples do not go through the same thing. Married couples promise their loyalty to each other. They do not date other people. They do not try to form romantic relationships with other people. Although I have heard some married couples do practice "open marriages" it is not the norm.

On the other hand Rachel and Ross are not married. They do not have a committed relationship where they see only each other. Instead they are living together in the same household and will be demonstrating to the child the wrong message. For the next 5 + years or so the baby would be incapable of grasping the concept of marriage. The child will assume having mom and dad both in the home means they are like other parents who live in the same hosehold, i.e. married. Therefore the child will be taught the message that cheating, going out with other people, is allowed in a relationship. When you grow up witnessing a certain action, over and over again, you often learn to repeat that action in your own life. This is why children who were abused as a child have a greater tendancy to become abusers.

Rachel and Ross are both single. There is no reason they should not attempt to find a life partner. However, living together prevents them from attempting to do so unless they want to seriously mess with their daughters mind and values. This is a big problem in my book.

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Both Married and Single people should not demonstarte inappropriate bahavor to their children. Chiledren learn from what they see.

Katie

Roselli421abrahammy

Screw him! I think that Emma is very lucky to have a mother, father, and lots of aunts and uncles (Monica, Phoebe, Chandler, Joey) who love her. For that guy, as Billy Crystal would say "Kindly invited him to kiss my undercarage!"

JamesS1889abrahammy

In article , [email] writes:

Are you being serious? If so, can you provide a URL? --- James Squire - http://members.aol.com/jamess1889 IDF Soldiers' Combatant Letter 2002 - http://seruv.nethost.co.il/defaulteng.asp
JamesS1889abrahammy

In article , [email] writes:

Well, she didn't say she was wrong, she said she agreed with him then, just didn't talk about it.

No, and the world didn't come to an end, either ;-)

Although I don't know what to make of the thought that Quayle likes the Osbornes ;-) --- James Squire - http://members.aol.com/jamess1889 IDF Soldiers' Combatant Letter 2002 - http://seruv.nethost.co.il/defaulteng.asp Personal Testimony of an Israeli Refusenik - http://www.shalomctr.org/html/peace84.html

ladysycamoreabrahammy

[email] wrote:

Say what? She's sorry...for What?????

*checks out URL...*

Prayer of Jabez: www.prayerofjabez.com War is easy...peace takes work! Work for PEACE! re-87
JamesS1889Dan Sgambelluri

In article , Daddy Freddy writes:

Says who? I've had it that way for a year now and you are the first person who has complained. --- James Squire - http://members.aol.com/jamess1889 IDF Soldiers' Combatant Letter 2002 - http://seruv.nethost.co.il/defaulteng.asp Personal Testimony of an Israeli Refusenik - http://www.shalomctr.org/html/peace84.html

Cookie DudeJamesS1889

JamesS1889 wrote:

He's right though. It's supposed to be two dashes and one space, according to guidelines for sigs. I noticed it as well ages ago, but couldn't be bothered to say something about it :) And I don't think he's complaining, he's just pointing it out.

Andr�
Lister, if two people come for a job, and one of them's dead, which one would you choose?
Tennant StuartJamesS1889

In article , [email] (JamesS1889) wrote:

Well, maybe we just let these things pass, but he's right. You'll find two dashes & a space at the end of all my messages, and most other people's.

Tennant

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JamesS1889Dan Sgambelluri

In article , Daddy Freddy writes:

Oh ;-) Okay, will do.

Thank you, he said belatedly. --- James Squire - http://members.aol.com/jamess1889 IDF Soldiers' Combatant Letter 2002 - http://seruv.nethost.co.il/defaulteng.asp
JamesS1889JamesS1889

In article , [email] (JamesS1889) writes:

And now I have finally remembered to actually do it ;-)

James Squire - http://members.aol.com/jamess1889 IDF Soldiers' Combatant Letter 2002 - http://seruv.nethost.co.il/defaulteng.asp Personal Testimony of an Israeli Refusenik - http://www.shalomctr.org/html/peace84.html
Cookie DudeJamesS1889

Overdosed on Teletubbies, Daddy Freddy thought it'd be a good idea to post this:

he he... At first I thought it's an incapability of Outlook Express that it comes out looking all weird, but it didn't look any better in Xnews :)

However, if you set your font size to fixed it comes out the way it's intended to be

"We spent like four months on it laboring over it to make sure it was good. We got a Grammy for the last album, and I need another door stop" - Dave Grohl
Cookie DudeCookie Dude

Overdosed on Teletubbies, Daddy Freddy thought it'd be a good idea to post this:

Well, if you do it right, the results are quite good: http://www.users.totalise.co.uk/~wardog/html/jennifer_aniston.html :)

Andr�
"We spent like four months on it laboring over it to make sure it was good. We got a Grammy for the last album, and I need another door stop" - Dave Grohl
Tennant StuartJamesS1889

In article , Daddy Freddy wrote:

Grin - all part of the cunning plan. :)

Tennant

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Tennant StuartTennant Stuart

In article , Daddy Freddy wrote:

Ilg!

If I post a table of figures, that should also be in a monospaced font.

Tennant

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ladysycamoreDan Sgambelluri

:major eye roll: Rachel's baby has as much chance of ending up in poverty as dumb-dumb Quayle has a chance of being President.

*he's still no Jack Kennedy...* <narf!>

Prayer of Jabez: www.prayerofjabez.com War is easy...peace takes work! Work for PEACE! re-87
Emil HoffDan Sgambelluri

I find it hilarious that he's reduced to making speeches in a golf magazine. That's a real media bombshell... I'm sure that if the election were held today, he'd get the white-geezers-in-checkered-pants vote hands down.