Am I the only one who saw the similarity between the way last night's ep ended (specifically the tone present when the ending credits came up) and the way that Season 3 episode where Rachel hugs Mark instead of Ross upon getting that fashion job ended? I think by May C&M won't stand for much.
Oh wait I'm dead. Never mind.
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I think it felt very similar to the end of TOW the List.
Hellooooo!!! After getting drunk in Vegas, Enoryt666 doodled cat whiskers on his/her face and miaowed this little lot at a statue...
Apparently you're not the only one. I've yet to see it so I can't comment. When's 617 gonna be up, Clark?
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you have a fair point but remember if C+M break up they have been together a lot longer than R+R and the break up would have to be a nice one for them to remain friends. most likely if they break up it would be for a bad reason........and then they won't remain friends, they wouldn't be able to see each other any more therefore it would be the end of their friendship. which means it could be the end of Friends.
I mean it's always been difficuilt for poor Ross and Rachel to step back into being friends.. and many say they never really went back.... can you really see C+M going back ?? they are approaching two years now ... I think they may break up for a short while.. you know.. and get back together permantly afterwards.
I think it's been pointed out here before that the length of a relationship doesn't necessarily determine how serious it is. Ross and Rachel were very seriously involved with each other, and in TOW Old Yeller, Ross even admitted he planned as far ahead as their kids names. Even with that seriousness, they managed to make it through not just one, but two break-ups (not to mention a divorce) and I believe they are still good friends. Monica and Chandler can handle it, and maybe it would be good for them to have some space. Not permanently, but they do need a while.
Adriana
Ross: I don't know if anything is ever going to happen with us again, ever, but I don't want to know that it never could. So I stopped it, and she got mad and broke my projector. -TOW Chandler Can't Cry
Hellooooo!!! After getting drunk in Vegas, Adriana loves Matt doodled cat whiskers on his/her face and miaowed this little lot at a statue...
That would be me, I pointed it out today, and THANK YOU! I can't understand this thing people have going where they think the length of relationship, or whether they live together or not, is an automatic benchmark by which all committed couples must follow. If that was the case, the many people who often stay in unhappy marriages for the sake of their children or whatever would be very committed, whereas a couple who are very happy together but in which one travels around a lot or they live apart a lot of the time for work reasons would be very uncommitted. Also, if that were so, couples would all be doing the exact same thing at the exact same time in all their relationships, which just doesn't happen. The length of a relationship or the stage it's at is *not* an indicator of how EMOTIONALLY committed a couple is to a relationship, and if anyone thinks it is they're in for some serious pitfalls in their own relationships.
ok, call me crazy, but i see you put this up in every single post, and every time i see it, it just kills me that you spell "miaowed" wrong. call me anal retentive.... but its MEOWED. ok? sorry to be so nitpicky! :oP
-Kat
Monica:"Fine! Judge all you want to but (to Ross) married a lesbian, (to Rachel) left a man at the altar, (to Phoebe) fell in love with a gay ice dancer, (to Joey) threw a girl's wooden leg into the fire, (to Chandler) live in a box."
Hellooooo!!! After getting drunk in Vegas, Katrina doodled cat whiskers on his/her face and miaowed this little lot at a statue...
I've just explained this on email, but according to the Oxford dictionary, it's 'miaow', and therefore 'miaowed' - that's the way I've always been told to spell it, and it's the right one, so it stays. Your version is the wrong one. (I'm sure Jac will back me up on this one.)
And I *don't* put it up in every single post. My newsreader puts it up in every single post. :P :)
ok, i just replyed to you through my email server, but i'll copy and paste the message up here.
you do mean to meow like a cat right?? because in the Webster's New Collegiate Dictionary, which is the most widely used and most referenced dictionary every, it is meow. and on my online dictionary, it is meow.
my dictionary says:
meow (noun). 1. The cry of a cat.
ooooh, wait. i just looked up your version. miaow, and it says miaow. variation of meow.
i guess it depends what country you live in, I live in America, and you live.. where? i assume England, but i'm not sure. So, to each his own, i guess it just depends. but havent you ever heard of the cat food, MEOW MIX. ya know, when the cat goes "meow, meow, meow, meow, meow.... etc" and the guy in the car goes "baxter, its baxter!" ok.... you probably think i'm crazy now, but its a commercial here. Oh well! bye bye!
~katrina~
-Kat
Monica:"Fine! Judge all you want to but (to Ross) married a lesbian, (to Rachel) left a man at the altar, (to Phoebe) fell in love with a gay ice dancer, (to Joey) threw a girl's wooden leg into the fire, (to Chandler) live in a box."
Hellooooo!!! After getting drunk in Vegas, Katrina doodled cat whiskers on his/her face and miaowed this little lot at a statue...
Exactly. It just depends on which country you live in. According to the Oxford dictionary it's 'miaow', and that's the one I've always been taught to use, so that's the one I'm sticking with.
In article , [email] (Katrina) wrote:
We Brits have this product too, but we call it MIAOW 1009.
Tennant Stuart :)
If a 100 monkeys each could get their own show (alt.tv.friends), perhaps one day (Sun, 27 Feb 2000 09:22:37 -0000) a chimp ("Jacqui" ) might say:
the british version of [a Canadian product] Kraft Dinner (macaroni and cheese in a box, just add milk and margarine! a meal in 8 minutes!).. erm, where was i.. oh yeah, it's called "Cheesey Pasta"
isn't it cheesy? literally
sesameslang
Isn't anybody going to realise that "MIAOW 1009" is a *joke* ???
MIX = 1000 + 10 - 1 = 1009
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OMG! There is a Radio station like that in my area!!! MIX 100.9!
Tennant Stuart wrote >
The first time you mentioned it it went "flicker". The second time it wasn't really worth mentioning.... this time you killed it stone dead. Never mind. :)
Jac
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ROFLMAO ~Act
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and buried.
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Tennant Stuart wrote:
deep under ground. ~Act
(gets out a calculator) Yes indeeed it is tennant, hold on let me check...
(gets out supercomputer) yup it agrees too
Maybe if i set it up as a logarithm
Hmmmm nope still dont get it, I know let me setup the pie chart....
Copyright MM :P
say what?? -Kat
Monica:"Fine! Judge all you want to but (to Ross) married a lesbian, (to Rachel) left a man at the altar, (to Phoebe) fell in love with a gay ice dancer, (to Joey) threw a girl's wooden leg into the fire, (to Chandler) live in a box."
Katrina wrote in message news:[email]...
Roman Numerals:
M = 1000 X = 10 I = 1
So, IX = 9, and MIX = 1009
VMA
ooooooooooooohhhhh.... that was supposed to be a joke?? ha... ha...
-Kat
Monica:"Fine! Judge all you want to but (to Ross) married a lesbian, (to Rachel) left a man at the altar, (to Phoebe) fell in love with a gay ice dancer, (to Joey) threw a girl's wooden leg into the fire, (to Chandler) live in a box."
Katrina wrote in message news:[email]...
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This is all very well, but it strikes me that the writers/producers like Chandler & Monica being together, and Ross & Rachel being apart. Sorry.
Tennant
Might be so, but there's no verdict until it's all over, Tennant.
Adriana
Ross: I don't know if anything is ever going to happen with us again, ever, but I don't want to know that it never could. So I stopped it, and she got mad and broke my projector. -TOW Chandler Can't Cry
No, Helena. The thing that will end Friends has nothing - absolutely nothing whatsoever - to do with the workings of the fictional world. It will have absolutely everything to do with ratings, or actor's ambition, or writer's disinterest. Shows do not end because fictional couples break up. They end because real creative people have real life reasons for not doing it anymore. If C&M were to break up, whether or not they managed to be civil in the process is entirely up to the writers, and they will make things happen exactly as they see fit. We may not enjoy what the writers come up with, and if we don't, the ratings may fall, and *that* could end Friends. But the writers aren't going to stop writing scenarios with Chandler and Monica in them because the two characters can't bear to be in the same room. Chandler and Monica do not have free will.
I am as guilty of overanalyzing this stuff as any person who ever came on this newsgroup, and I've been lectured a few times about how this is not real life. In this case, I think it really is best that we remember that. C&M will do whatever Kauffman and Crane say. Period.
Claire Abraham wrote:
Yes. The end of a show is not nearly as romanticized as Helena (or others) would like. Witness the end of Married . . With Children. During the filming of the "last" episode, everyone thought there was another season, even the writers. It was *after* the filming, but before the airing of this "final" episode when the whole thing fell apart. (I'm not too knowledgable about what really happened, but. . ) The series-finale of Married..With Children was an extremely un-remarkable one, barely fit for a season-finale. It just ended, leaving all sorts of things up in the air, unresolved.
My personal prediction is that Friends will do reasonably well for it's tenure. As is with all things, the actors will want more and more money, while the ratings slowly slip, either because of unoriginal writing, or indifference from the viewing public, or whatever. When there is too large of a discrepency, as what I feel happened to Mad About You, it's just not worth it any more. A million dollars per episode per star, even while the ratings were falling? I would have cancelled Mad About You also. But I'd be willing to bet that's just the way it's done in Hollywood. Actors accept "lower-than-average" salaries to get their shows off the ground. Once they're flying and making money for the studios, then they can ask more. They keep getting more until their salaries start eating into the profit margins of the studios/networks/whoever. Friends is still making money for everyone involved, so it continues. .
For those that are interested enough, after Friends ends, perhaps you can take your "fanfic" and write, publish, and sell novels based on the characters of Friends, picking up where they left off, exploring different tangents, etc. My guess is you have to get permission from BKC and all their representives, and they will most likely get a cut of your profits from your novels, but if you're good enough, you can make some money, and have the characters live on that way. Internet technology could allow you to do this without even publishing a single book. Downloadable prose, downloadable audio-only episodes, etc. It's all possible. Something to consider for you budding novelists out there. . .
Above all, Friends is a commodity to make money. When it ceases to do so, then it will end, be it graceful or not. Plain and simple.
Meanwhile, our lives will trudge on. . .
well actually I did look in the dictionary and looked up meow to make sure it was right, I didnt think to look up miaow, because I have never ever in my life seen it spelled that way, because I live in America, and I dont know anyone from Britian. Anyways, I thought this topic was over, but thank you ever so much for starting it back up again so that you could tell me what to do.
-Kat
Monica:"Fine! Judge all you want to but (to Ross) married a lesbian, (to Rachel) left a man at the altar, (to Phoebe) fell in love with a gay ice dancer, (to Joey) threw a girl's wooden leg into the fire, (to Chandler) live in a box."
Is that a cat dictionary? In fluffy's standard cat dictionary its spelled Mi-o'uw, a word meaning let's be friends, but don't get oo close
Erm, can we all calm down? I've always spelled it "miaow" but I know people who spell it "meow" and probably both of those are wrong if you asked a cat. My cat is amazingly clever, she can say her name. Okay, so her name is Maya. But you know - it's pretty good don't you think? *lol* I should probably shut up now, right? Wasn't this meant to be about C&M anyway?
In article , "CandiGrrl" wrote:
Of course, nobody knows the names of their cats.
We just know what we call them.
Tennant
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Of course the *really* clever cats get us to call them by their real names.... if you're a Gallico fan. If you're Eliot, then naturally we never ever will learn the deep inscrutable singular NAME.
Jac
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It's a cat's idea of what constitutes a nice present for you that worries me, sometimes four at once... :(
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lol. Some cats are wholeheartedly sincere about this and truly do think that your life is incomplete without the "presents". :)
Others, of course, "do it to annoy, because [they] know... it teases".
Have you read "The Silent Miaow" by Paul Gallico (yes spelled like that even though he wasn't a Brit...)? Do, if you're a catlover. It explains SO much! :)
Jac
Wasnt he at Jutland? (WWI trivia)
Do, if you're a catlover. It
Meanwhile the cats are laughing themselves silly
(read Paul Gallico, The Silent Miaow)
no no no no, that's the point. TSM is a "translation" of a manuscript written by a cat.... It begins "when I was a young kotteb", kotteb being what a creature with pads makes of a keyboard when trying to type "kitten"... It's a cat's user manual for humans.
It really is a wonderful book though. Do read it. :)
Jac
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Oh she's wholehearted alright. I used to think that nothing could be more worrying than suddenly noticing a tiny pair of eyes looking at you from underneath the bookcase - until the day Fliss dragged home a chicken that weighed more than she did. What is the etiquette in such a situation?
Oooh. Our cats have never been like that, especially the birders.
No, never read Gallico, but do I know *exactly* what a silent miaow is!
The ultimate weapon!
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There was a list of such "gifts" in the Telegraph's pet column this last Saturday. I think a chicken is quite "normal" (i.e. food) compared to some... (underwear from clothes lines, odd shoes, etc.) Was it a *recently* deceased one or a frozen one?
Jac
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Oh yes? Details? (Or a URL please)
Very recent, with an incriminating trail of gory feathers dotting the way from a neighbour's smallholding - she must have had to keep changing her bite as *stuff* fell off along the way...
Now you know what we thought of when Chandler did his Marcel impression.
Tennant
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The Electronic Telegraph is at www.telegraph.co.uk IIRC. Their Search facility *should* include the pets column. If not, mail me and I'll dig it out from my recycling pile...
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Ah, the joy of cats. Wonderful. :) I still have vivid memories of the biology lesson Topper (not my cat) gave us.... "oh that must be the liver." "Do you suppose that's a spleen? Do mice have spleens? What's THAT...?"
Jac
In article , "Jacqui" wrote:
We never get small mammals - just birds & amphibia. Frogs are much better at defeating cats, hence the eyes under the bookcase.
Tennant
I know a joke about frozen chickens. It's rude, though.
that is so true, i never thought about it that way...
-Kat
Monica:"Fine! Judge all you want to but (to Ross) married a lesbian, (to Rachel) left a man at the altar, (to Phoebe) fell in love with a gay ice dancer, (to Joey) threw a girl's wooden leg into the fire, (to Chandler) live in a box."
My cat never said that. She said "mraoauww" a lot, which meant "I'm sleeping here, you go find somewhere else". Rather representative of our whole relationship...
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LOL Sounds like my cat!! ~Act