Latest 'Friends' Season Debuts with a Dud

Oct 1, 2002, 7:00 AM ET7 posts by 4 posters
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NARAG

An interesting review of the season premier. I share the POV of the writer as well. Friends does appear to be milking as much currency as it can from sentimentality - with this being the last season (possibly) and thanks to an emmy win at the right moment- just before the premier.

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/variety/20020930/tv_variety/television_friends_dc_1

A spoiler just in case as this is public material after all. So don't go any further if you want to remain a virgin. :-)

Latest 'Friends' Season Debuts with a Dud Mon Sep 30, 3:14 AM ET By Michael Speier

HOLLYWOOD (Variety) - Thursday night's "Friends" season opener proved once again that the NBC mainstay is so familiar, "funny" isn't relevant anymore.

By virtue of the show's duration, Ross, Rachel, Joey, Phoebe, Chandler and Monica have worn out their comic welcome; nothing they do surprises, shocks or excites audiences like it used to.

It's hardly unique -- there are plenty of sex jokes -- while the structure is still the same.

Yet 34 million people tuned in for a reason, and, funny be damned, the NBC comedy known as much over the years for contract squabbles as for its Central Perk cafe still provides a comfort level like no other title has since its debut in 1994.

With "Friends" having just taken home a best comedy Emmy that many view as a lifetime achievement award, its biggest testament to staying power is the current plotline involving newborn Emma. If anyone needs a reminder just what the arrival of a toddler signifies for a sitcom, just remember the fate of "Mad About You," a fellow must-see series that caught baby fever and passed out -- for good.

But critics have actually proclaimed this story arc as one of the show's best; Rachel got pregnant as America was recovering from Sept. 11, and everyone felt at ease.

For all of its hype, little transpired last week: The love triangle sputtered, Phoebe is still a ditz (her flightiness has become a detrimental feature), Joey freaked out over breast-feeding, and the Bings did it in a hospital closet.

The season debut, directed by Kevin Bright and written by Sherry Bilsing-Graham and Ellen Plummer, was actually a dud.

And speaking of sex, "Friends" has had more free passes than any other series when it comes to content; it's 8 p.m. time slot isn't an appropriate place for its massive collection of hump humor. Monica's father, Jack ( Elliott Gould), actually saw his daughter and Chandler engaged in some rather curious positions that he proceeded to discuss at length.

But even that hasn't mattered. "Friends," like "The Simpsons ( news - Y! TV)," "Married ... With Children" and "Seinfeld" before it, still draws 'em in because everything has been the same for a decade: its lead characters, its theme song, its schedule spot and its composition.

NBC, Warner Bros. and executive producers Bright, Marta Kauffman and David Crane have seen to it that their collection of stars stayed intact, and whatever clicks is done over and over and over again.

And so it goes: The most popular isn't always the best, and the overall impact often outweighs the specific execution. "Friends" has clearly been the vital half-hour for matters economic, and it has had much more influence on television history than it gets credit for.

Here's hoping that the final run -- if this is really it -- bows out with the class it owes its audience and the sass it used to have

JacquiNARAG

from http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/variety/20020930/tv_va riety/television_friends_dc_1

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Er - that has to be the weirdest conception in history then, since the positive pregnancy test came 4 months before...

Jac

NARAGJacqui

Jacqui wrote in message news:...

It makes perfect sense. Critics claim that the pregnancy storyline as one of the show's best and attribute it to the highest ratings the show had ever averaged in season 8. Friends up to that point was second bested by Survivor in Season 7. The pregnancies storyline in itself is not new to Friends which saw 2 other pregnancy in its run. Between the S7 cliffhanger and S8 premier 9/11 changed everyone's lives.

The writer is suggesting one reason for the ratings spike and I agree with his comments, that folks were seeking comfort and a sense of familiarity since 9/11. Reality had become all the more painful. Hence while Friends flourished in S8 in a make believe NYC where the terrorist attacks did not happen, reality shows like Survivor floundered ever since. No one had expected the S8 premier to draw 30+ mil viewers when it first aired. Looking back S8 is all the more memorable for the promotions and sweep stunts than the quality of the episodes themselves.

S9 is officially touted the last season and it is reasonable to expect NBC, WB and BKC to milk as much leverage as they possible can out sentimentality even if the show should return for a tenth year. Winning the emmy had given the premier a boost as well. A lacklustre Survivor is once again pitted against it. Let's just hope that Friends is still capable of delivering quality episodes this season without being reduced to stunts and promotions. High ratings while certainly good for the show and the network does not necessarily equate to quality.

David BuehrleNARAG

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Although I agree the ratings are off somewhat for shows such as "Survivor", I would hardly say they are floundering. In the big picture, I think they are doing quite well.

manhnNARAG

"NARAG" wrote in message news:[email]...

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Why only Friends? People were watching The Bachelor, Fear Factor, those Celebrity boxing specials, etc. Will & Grace and ER were losing popularity. Why didn't they go check out Touched By an Angel or The X-Files or The Practice or NYPD Blue? Why did only Friends see its ratings increase?

Perhaps they enjoyed the show?

You mean like American Idol?

Says you. I enjoyed S8 just fine.

Friends has gotten so little respect from critics and the Emmy committee that a mere spike in the ratings would do little to garner the accolades they experienced last season without them actually enjoying the show. Friends has always been a ratings dynamo (even in the dreaded seventh season), but it never won an Emmy until last week.

Lewis.

NARAGmanhn

"manhn" wrote in message news:...

I would hardly call X-Files, ER, NYPD Blues or the Practice "comfort" shows. I can speak about Will & Grace as I've not since a single episode of that show. Further shows like X-Files, ER and NYPD Blues have undergone a near complete makeover in cast unlike Friends as the writer points out correctly retains the original cast, settings and central perk. In short, a familiar setting.

Perhaps that too. I just hope the writers can do more than rely on extended storylines and leaning on hump comedy.

That's more like a variety show with an added dimension of realism. A far cry from Survivor or Fear Factor. Were contestants on American Idol bobbing for plumbs in a snake filled container?

Perhaps with quality episodes instead of promos, stunts and hump comedy Friends would get the respect due.

manhnNARAG

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popularity.

And Law & Order and CSI are?

What about Law and Order?

Perhaps, they didn't enjoy those shows--because it was too dark, or because they didn't like the new cast members, or whatever. They enjoyed Friends.

Since they've relied on these two elements since the first episode, I don't see them changing anytime soon.

I didn't know doing something gross constitutes a reality TV show. I'm sure being trampled on and being told that you have no talent is enough "reality."

We can go on--Meet My Parents, Fear Factor, The Bachelor, The Amazing Race. Heck, Survivor is still a top 10 show.

Reality TV is still going strong, and won't be going away anytime soon.

Considering that they got their due respect, I guess they delivered some quality episodes last season.

Lewis.