What do we have to expect for 815-824/5/6?

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Let's see what we've got right now (after 814): * Rachel and Ross are going to have a female baby in April or May. * Rachel moves in with Ross to give him the chance to be kind of a father. * Joey has feelings for Rachel, but don't know exactly how strong they are. * Phoebe, Chandler and Monica know about Joey, but think it's just a crush. * Ross & Rachel don't know. * Ross & Rachel keep saying there're no emotions of a romantic kind between them.

What could happen in the next about 10 episodes? And how high is the possibility for that (IMO)?

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• Joey tells Rachel about his feelings. -- quite high
• Joey tells Ross about his feelings. -- low
• Rachel finds out about Joey's feelings.-- not as high as 1.
• Ross finds out about Joey's feelings. -- higher than 2.

05. Ross has feelings for Rachel again.    -- high
 a. already has, but won't admit           -- high
06. Rachel has feelings for Ross again.    -- medium
 a. already has, but won't admit           -- high
07. Both have feelings for each other.     -- medium
08. Ross and Rachel kiss...                -- high, very high if 6.
 a. more than once                         -- medium, less than 6.
09. Joey and Rachel kiss...                -- medium, high if 9th season
 a. more than once                         -- higher than 8.a.
10. Ross and Rachel have sex.              -- medium, way below 8.
11. Joey and Rachel have sex.              -- below 10.

12. Mona quits the show.                   -- near 100%
 a. in 815 or 816                          -- very high
 b. later                                  -- quite low
 c. she breaks up with Ross                -- high, very high if 8. oc
 d. Ross breaks up with her                -- medium, ditto and 5.
13. Monica gets pregnant                   -- low, medium if 9th season
14. Someone enters a new job               -- high, it's time again
 a. Monica                                 -- high, own restaurant
 b. Chandler                               -- quite high, coz of Monica
 c. Phoebe                                 -- high, if school success
 d. Ross                                   -- low, maybe excavations[1]
 e. Rachel                                 -- very low
 f. Joey                                   -- unlikely to quit DOOL
15. Joey finds love without Rachel         -- high
16. The unborn baby dies                   -- very low, too easy
17. It's twins or a boy                    -- very, very low, too soapy

[Assuming everyone knows about Joey's feelings:]
18. Rachel moves out of Ross's...          -- low
 a. back to Joey's.                        -- medium
 b. to Phoebe's.                           -- higher
 c. elsewhere.                             -- highest
19. Ross lets Rachel go back to Joey...    -- high, sure
 a. without doing anything.                -- low, remember 5.

20. Rachel marries...                      -- low
 a. Ross.                                  -- high
 b. Joey.                                  -- low
 c. someone else.                          -- below zero

[1] Like David Duchovny didn't really quit X-Files in the first place.

Christoph

"Christoph P�per" wrote in message news:a3jfr1$2vh8$[email]...

Almost a certainty. www.wb.com says: "Joey comes clean about his feelings for Rachel on Valentine's Day." Under the caption there is a picture of the two at a restaurant, and it's a different restaurant than in "the date".

I think Ross will be too busy with Mona in 815, unless Rachel tells him.

She'll find out from Joey, I'm pretty sure.

I believe Ross will have to wait until late February or March.

I agree on both

I agree here too.

Oh, I would say high, but it's what they do about it that will be interesting.

Assuming more than once would mean they would have to admit some feelings perhaps. Yes, medium is about right then.

An interesting point about season 9. I agree, especially if they have to continue without David. If it ends at the end of season 8, I think they will put Rachel with Ross, and the three can live happily ever after.

Hmmm. I could see them doing some stuff about Ross never having been with a pregnant woman, but there would have to be some type of admitted relationship going on first.

Joey having sex with a pregnant woman would be just a bit too odd at this stage. I think, if it happens, it would have to be in season 9.

Yeah, I'm thinking 815 is it for Mona. A Valentine's Day break up. Typical Ross stuff. Rachel feels bad for Ross and kisses him to make him feel better. Their eyes meet. Cut away. Suspense until 816 after the Olympics. Now THAT would get the J&R and R&R crowds talking, wouldn't it?

I would say high if season 9 because of the Dr. visit she recently had. It would seem that she and David A. are trying, unless they were only checking on a possible accident.

Im thinking it's unlikely that anyone will change jobs this season. If we get another season, the likelyhood rises significantly.

Obviously dependent upon whether he finds love WITH Rachel, but yes. I think our buddy Joey is finally ready for a serious relationship.

Or too difficult. A miscarriage early on isn't as significant as losing the baby after you are showing.

Based on the sonogram, I'd say twins is out. A boy however. . . hmmmm. Not as low IMO, but still low.

I think she'll stay there through season 8. If 8 is the end, that's where she'll stay.

Wow, Ross hasn't shown that much maturity yet. I think it's possible, especially if Rachel shows interest in Joey, but I think they'd have to do some kooky stuff about it, before he gives in.

Agreed. Of course, she could marry me. I have credit cards.

But if I lived in Friends' New York, I'd rather marry Phoebe.

I love that tag line!

Joey IS going to tell Ross his feelings for Rachel in 815. It said so in the preview last night. But it could possibly be at the end when Joey tells him, so that it could be a bit of a cliffhanger till after the Winter Olympics.

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You're right, he does do that. I'm just sayin'. :-)

"David Buehrle" schrieb:

That site won't let me and my Opera in. Good spoiler protection at least. NBC sounds differently, as if <rot13>Zban frrf E&E xvffvat</rot13> (just a guess) and it seems to be more about C&M than R&R&J.

I could think of reduced appeareances, but I don't think they would continue the show without the full cast. So you think that R&R will end up together, too? Good boy. ;-)

Well, actually I think, Mona will break up with Ross (12c) in 815 and tell him that he still loves [1] Rachel (5a) - Ross with eyes wide open - end credits. And I *hope* Joey tells Rachel the same (6a) -- er, you know, vice versa. The kiss (8) will not yet happen, but I'm sure it will this season. Maybe a friendly Valentine's kiss from Rachel to Joey (9), nothing more.

If she's already completely moved in in the beginning of 815, it's likely to stay that way, but if she's still moving out of Joey's, it's a bit uncertain.

[1] Is there a big difference between "to like s.o.", "to love s.o." and "to be in love with s.o." in English?

The text is actually much longer, but as I'm gonna be an engineer someday...

Christoph

"Christoph P�per" schrieb:

I would say there is a fairly significant difference especially between the first and the other two. Liking someone would have no emotional entanglement. At best, you might say, "I like so-and-so" in order to express some emotion, but without any commitment to the person or to the feeling.

To love someone could be anything between the way a person feels about a dear pet, or his/her parents, brothers or sisters, or the feelings for a lover/mate. To be in love with someone would be pure eros (romantic love).

Ya, this expression is true if you assume you have found a good thing. Though I never sought it, I'm not sure it was good fortune to step in that dog doo doo, but there it is on my shoe. :-) So it could go either way.

"Christoph P�per" schrieb:

It's lame to answer your own postings, but anyways, there are so many, I just can't choose which one to respond to.

now spoilering 815 also

after 815: * Joey tells Ross

Btw.: I just saw 815 Sunday night over here, just before the ice hockey match Germany - Austria (3:2, go for gold). When I heard first about a big cliffhanger being, I thought, maybe the ep would end with Rachel lying in bed hugging [replace by translation of 'kuscheln'] someone you cannot identify clearly. I was wrong. But I liked that idea.

Oh, how wrong I was. My new guess is that Ross instead of Joey will tell Rachel.

So, what will Ross do? I like the idea of having him stand in CP's door entire 816, but don't think the authors will do that. If I were Ross -- and the character has quite some similarities to me --, I'd stay in the doorway a few furthermore moments, feeling like hours, to finally turn around, sit myself on the couch, rush down the warm milk (CYST?), and wait for Joey to say a word. Things I'd, or Ross for that matter, might say: "Is it just a crush [or do you love her]?", "Oh!", "Hubbahubba-hub?", "Well...", "Gunther, Whiskey! Now!" (*choke* Bourbon, eew), "O-kay...", "Most people don't know <insert boring stuff here>", "Rachel?". You see, I don't have any idea what the authors have had them say (it's already been taped I think). But as I think Ross and _Rachel_ still love each other, there'll never ever be a Joey&Rachel. Sorry, Joseph. Besides I still don't like this triangle, it's just too soapy. And I *really*want* R&R for my Ally McBeal touched soul.

So I was at least right in one point, but I wanted Ross to realize this relationship was wrong, thus him dumping her.

Well, the new question is quite similar. But even more important than this and how Ross'll react is what Rachel will say and do, when she finds out / is been told. I already stated that I don't believe she's got feelings for Joey in return.

Christoph