Friends S7-24 - reality bites

Jun 21, 2001, 4:00 PM ET779 posts by 27 posters
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Tennant Stuart

This is a review of the second half of the finale only.

However, please feel free to post anything at all about the *whole* of the finale - but below the spoiler space please.

Meanwhile, some good news for the British, European, and Australian fans who have not yet seen the finale - despite being cut into two parts, *nothing* was lost! Yay!!

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724 "TOW Monica and Chandler's Wedding (part 2)"

When Rachel freaked out at Chandler's disappearance, Phoebe dragged her off into the bathroom, where she rummaged in the waste basket for a tissue, but instead found a used pregnancy testing kit. Since it was positive, Phoebe declared that Monica is pregnant...

..Rachel keeps saying "Oh my God", while Phoebe wonders if that was why Chandler took off - but Rachel tells her that since she emptied the trash the previous night, Monica must have just taken the test; and she makes Phoebe agree that they tell no-one about the matter.

Later on, the girls find Ross who's been up all night searching for Chandler in vain. He looked everywhere, including both of Chandler's parents, who believe Ross is interested in them! Ross asks Rachel to stall Monica for a couple of hours while he tries again, so Phoebe insists on going with him to make sure he succeeds.

Rachel tells Monica that they need to talk since she fears that she will never get married, but Monica simply tells her the right guy is just round the corner - so Rachel tells Monica that she's decided to become a lesbian, but Monica tells her that any woman would be lucky to have her - then Rachel tells Monica that she'd feel better if she slept with Joey, and Monica drops everything to talk!!

After much searching, Ross & Phoebe are getting desperate, when it occurs to him to ask her where she would hide if she was Chandler. Phoebe has a good think, then takes him to Chandler's office where he is indeed hiding, all alone on a quiet Saturday morning. Chandler describes his fear of him & Monica becoming The Bings, as horrible as his parents - but Ross is great as he reveals that both Nora & Helena tried to seduce him, and since Chandler would never do that than he cannot be anything like his parents!

After much talking, Rachel eventually runs out of ideas, so Monica starts getting ready again. Out of sheer desperation, Rachel fakes a fall, but that only makes Monica suspicious, and Rachel is forced to admit that they cannot find Chandler (Phoebe appears giving the thumbs up) 's vest - whereupon Monica so freaks out that Phoebe has to assure her that they've found the vest!

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The whole wedding party gathers at the hotel where the ceremony will take place, and though the ladies are dressed up, they can't compete with the bride who looks stunning in her gown. But at that moment, Joey phones from the studio to warn the Maid of Honour that he's been held up, and can't officiate.

Meanwhile, instead of Chandler having to plunge, Ross persuades him to get ready by proceeding one little step at a time, and eventually he's coaxed him into a tuxedo. However, the next step is a big one, getting married, so Chandler nips out for a furtive smoke. But when he hears the girls coming, he ducks into a closet, from where he overhears Phoebe mention Monica's pregnancy!

Rachel finds a Greek Orthodox wedding just ending, so by lying that Chandler & Monica are also Greek Orthodox, she persuades the priest to officiate. Meanwhile, Ross frets that he's lost Chandler, but while Helena hits on him, and Nora recalls her marriage when the groom wore a wedding dress, Monica appears in her full regalia, and she is so beautiful that Ross's breath is taken away - but when she asks about Chandler, he breaks into a sweat, and has to pretend that the drops are beads of joy!

When Ross encounters Chandler in the corridor, he easily throws him to the floor, and prepares to give him the ass-kicking he warned about, and this time nobody is laughing, especially not Phoebe. But Chandler hurriedly explains that he did not run away, but went to the hotel's gift shop, where he bought a "I heart NEW YORK" romper suit for the baby, since anything small enough to fit it could not be scary, and Ross embraces him.

Finally the ceremony begins, with an aisle procession of Chandler arm-in-arm with what looks like his two mothers, Ross looking like a very lucky bloke arm-in-arm with Phoebe & Rachel, then a radiant Monica arm-in-arm with her parents, so Chandler beams his beamiest smile at her as she joins him at the altar. Everyone is puzzled by the new minister, but Rachel whispers at them to pretend they are Greek Orthodox - and so the priest begins, "Dearly Beloved"...

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When Joey arrived at the studio, the director was not interested in the truth or any of his excuses, but assured him that there was only one scene to do - except Crosby turned up drunk. They began filming, but despite Joey's attempts to fill in, Crosby was hopeless, yet the director was determined to continue until it was in the can.

The director was fully aware that Crosby was hammered, but stubbornly insisted on continuing, so Joey cleverly told his co-star that they were done for the day, and as he tossed Richard over his shoulder to carry him off, the triple Oscar nominee looked down in puzzlement that he could see his own arse!

Back at the hotel, just as the priest begins, Joey rushes down the aisle to take over, and apologises to the dearly beloved for being late and still in his WWI uniform! Beginning the proceedings before the groom can escape again, which startles the bride, Joey delivers a sweet yet short speech (since he left his notes in his dressing room) then invites Monica to say her vows.

Monica's speech is so beautiful that Chandler dispenses with his, simply telling her how much he loves her - whereupon they kiss too early which throws Joey off track, they complete the proceedings almost in reverse! As Joey declares them to be husband & wife, Chandler & Monica kiss again, and everyone applauds.

But when Chandler whispers to Monica that he knows about the baby, she denies all knowledge of it. So it is that as Chandler asks his wife who did take the pregnancy test, Phoebe is telling Rachel how happy she is that the newlyweds are going to have a baby - and Rachel looks very very worried...

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This was an hilarious episode to close the season (which has now become my second favourite out of all seven) with a startlingly good ensemble plot for Ross, Phoebe, Rachel, and a razor-sharp Chandler - while as the innocent party, Monica was necessarily left with rather less to do, except light up the screen with her charm & beauty.

Ross was a real brick in this episode, such a good friend to Chandler that it made up for his bad deeds in college. Okay so occasionally he was a tad Mental Geller, but I reckon that he had every right to get annoyed, especially since he had been up all night. When you consider his stress level, he was actually quite calm & controlled.

Once again, Joey was the singleton carrying the lighter side, and his sparring with Crosby was delightful. Meanwhile, though we had a second helping of Nora & Charles, I would have liked so much more, as well as the hotly anticipated cat-fight between Nora & Judy. Maybe this will happen during the reception at the start of Season 8 - if a certain mother-to-be manages not to steal Monica's thunder...

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Rachel took the trash out??? If Phoebe had thought about this, would she have realised that Rachel was lying to her, right there?

Ross has already kissed both Nora & Chandler, and since Helena quite clearly fancies the boy, does he have any chance of completing a Bing hat-trick there?

When Rachel first got dressed, and wore that blue top & denims, she looked really lovely. So why was she all dowdy again at the wedding?

There was an apparent continuity error in the first part of the finale. Monica's ansaphone message said the wedding would be on a Saturday, but in 717 "TOW the Cheap Wedding Dress" she gives the date as May 15th, a Tuesday. At the time I was at a loss to explain it, and no-one else could help, but now a possible reason is apparent. Since that earlier episode was written, the finale's plot required that Chandler be able to hide at his office, so the writers were forced to alter the date.

After some cynics remarked that we never see the friends at work any more, we have now seen all six - Monica at Allesandro's in 707/718, Ross at NYU in 702/718, Joey's studios in 704/715/718/723/724, Rachel at Ralph Lauren in 704/705/709/712/720, Phoebe's massage/telesales in 702/713, and Chandler at his multinational HQ in 724. Since Chandler obviously likes his work the least, who is happiest in their careers?

When the subject of successful Hollywood marriages last came up in 413 "TOW Rachel's Crush", their examples were Susan Sarandon & Tim Robbins (not legally married though they have two children), Alec Baldwin & Kim Basinger (filed for divorce on January 12th), Tom Cruise & Nicole Kidman (separated on February 5th), and erm Mel Gibson & Clint Eastwood (but we won't go into that right now). Anyway, Paul Newman is a better example since he has been married to Joanne Woodward since 29th January 1958 - but did you know that she is his *second* wife?

For any British & European fans who are puzzled why Monica should be so concerned about Chandler's vest, that is the term Americans apply to a waistcoat.

Although Rachel was the Maid of Honour, and Phoebe was not, they dressed alike, so did that meant that they were really bridesmaids?

And how come Helena, Nora & Judy also wore dresses with the same sort of golden/silvery sheen?

How come the wedding took place at a hotel, and not at the Morgan Chase Museum, as arranged in 622 "TOW Paul's the Man"? Anything to do with Megan Bailey?

Was Chandler wearing the Diane Keaton tuxedo from the end of 720 "TOW Rachel's Big Kiss"?

Why was there a closet for storing ice in the residential part of the hotel?

Did you know that "Anastassakis" is the original Greek family name of Jennifer Aniston? Are there similar in-jokes with Papasifakis, Stephanopolus & Acidofolus?

Why does Rachel give the Jewish greeting "Mazel Tov" to the Best Man & Maid of Honour at the Greek wedding?

Wasn't it just so neat that Chandler's final fears of marriage were swept away by the thought of having children of his own?

Why does Monica tell Chandler her wedding dress is no longer new?

Gary Oldman was brilliant as an actor drunk on the job, and he was provided with some exquisitely funny lines to say - but does that evocative line "I'm wearing two belts" seem familiar at all?

Aaron the film director was not very sensitive about what was happening on his set, was he? Or did he just not care?

Did American soldiers in WWI really carry swords?

Why didn't Richard Crosby enunciate? Because he was drunk?

Look at how easily Matt LeBlanc picked up Gary Oldman - he made him seem as light as a feather. Joey is easily the strongest of all six friends. But did you notice that as they went out the door, Crosby narrowly managed to grab a bottle of booze on the way?

When Joey tells the dearly beloved that they won't be confused by Memorial Day 2002, is that when his movie comes out? What date is that exactly?

Did you prefer the dress that Monica lost in 717 "TOW the Cheap Wedding Dress", which was actually supposed to be perfect?

What was Monica's something old, something new, something borrowed, something blue?

Why wasn't Ben Geller invited to his aunt's wedding?

Have the Tribbianis been delayed at the christening? Will we see them in S8-01?

What about Cassie, and all the other Geller aunts & cousins we've seen?

Joey's speech "I've known Monica & Chandler for a long time, and I can not imagine two people more perfect for each other" was indeed similar to what he said in 716 "TOW the Truth About London", part of which was "you guys are perfect for each other", while he did not mention having & giving or sharing & receiving.

And when Chandler abandoned his prepared vows, don't forget that he had stolen a copy from Monica, but Joey let her go first!

Come on, be honest, when everyone applauded, did you join in too?

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In case anyone is in any doubt, it's quite clear that it was meant to be Rachel who is pregnant - one in the eye for all the cynics who so yawningly predicted Monica would be pregnant by the end of the season. But who is the father? Ross? That's what they want you to think, but the key word here is 'history'. Joey? The most likely, especially as he's the only one who didn't know about the baby by the end of the finale, and they deleted the scene where Rachel caught him with her knickers. Chandler? The least likely, but remember the golden rule of murder mysteries. Officer Hanson? Nah. Mr.Zelner? Could be. That guy whose name escapes me? Hope not, and 3 months is a *long* time.

What will happen next? She *could* have the baby, but sadly that seems the least likely option with at least one season still to go. She could have an abortion, or a miscarriage, or the pregnancy test could turn out to be faulty (especially if it had been in the trash for too long), or it could even belong to somebody else - like cousin Marie, or Nora got Charles drunk, or Nora & Ross, or even Judy after getting her wicked way with Gunther. My best guess is that at the moment, *nobody* knows, since it depends upon Jennifer & Brad Pitt, as well as Lisa & Michel Stern and Courteney & David Arquette - reality bites...

Finally I would like to thank everyone who posted so delicately to my review of part 1, such that nothing was spoilt for me in part 2. But no spoilers PLEASE about Season 8...

Tennant Stuart

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PanickedOzTennant Stuart

I agree with all of that :)

about his sister. (and his best friend too, I'm sure.)

Not to go off the topic here, but I just have to state my reasons for not minding "Mental Geller" or "Screechy Monica". You all talk about them as though they're different people, split personalities. But they're just characteristics to the same person. Ross is a jealous guy. Sometimes he shows it more. Monica is competitive, and loud. Sometimes she shows it, more often than other times. Rachel is shallow at times, Phoebe can be quite mean, Joey can be stupid, and Chandler can annoy the others with his nonstop jokes. None of them are this way all the time, but they're not *bad things*. Some people may not like certain characteristics, and so they call these flaws. I personally take all of these things as just.. them. I don't mind it. And I definitly don't think they're not 'the same character I used to love.'

On the R/R side, I already said that I rather like the friendship they have now.

I think that Ross built up this dream Rachel that he was in love with. And once they got together, that dream fizzled, and was gone. So if you'll notice, they weren't actually platonic until late/mid 6th season. One of them was always having feelings for the other. So while having said feelings, they would be all kind to them. "Oh, sweet wonderful Rachel.." "Oh, Ross is so great and smart.." But now that niether of them have those feelings, they're friends. Teasing, normal platonic friends, and whose to say they wouldn't have always been this way? I like it. :)

Arg, I'm so sorry about that.. I seriously left the topic, but apparently I had that rant in me. Forgive me. ;)

I thought both she and Phoebe looked beautiful. Those dresses were wonderful. I didn't care for how she looked in the scene you mentioned. But then, I'm a female.

Oh I LOVE seeing their workplaces, especially Chandler's. :) And I think Monica is happiest, because after Joey helped her out, she hasn't mentioned any other problems.

What do you call a vest, if anything?

THANK YOU! I was wondering this since I saw it for the first time, and no one else ever mentioned it. I was begining to think I missed a scene where they said it *was* the museum..

Hmm.. I would have to check. All I know is that he looked *gooood*.. ;D

I did after many people mentioned it. :)

Because she may not have know it was greek, or she just confused the two. Who knows. She's not an expert on languages. ;)

Mmmhmm. I remember someone (right after it aired in the US) posted that it wasn't realistic at all that Chandler would run off at this point in his life.

I disagreed. I wish I still had my post, because I liked the way I worded it, but alas, it's gone. So I'll try my best..

Chandler, in the past had always been scared of commitment. But see, that was always a more.. normal guy-way of not wanting to be tied down. Seeing the same person day in and day out. Etc.

This was not that fear. He was past that. He was scared to death of hurting Monica. He *really* thought that if he got married, he would screw it up and they'd end up hating each other, or anything like that. Of course, not showing up would be hurting her just as much, but in his twisted, scared view of it, he didn't think so. He wasn't even able to comprehend any of this until, as you said, the romper suit. :)

Which, thank you for reminding me that that is what that baby outfit is called-- I couldn't remember all this time!

er.. remind me, when was this?

nope.

Maybe he was drunk too. ;)

That was awesome ;D

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yes, I did prefer that one. This one was plainer, and didn't look as good. But I don't feel the same as some people, who think she, and the wedding, looked horrible.

I missed him. :(

I want to know what his vows actually said. I mean, we don't know if he kept the copied ones or not.. would this qualify for that list? Things We Want To See, or whatever? :)

I was sniffling happily, and then started applauding, so yes. :)

ugh. (to the critics)

Yes, this seems to be the topic of discussion for most Friends fans.. but myself, I'm *still* in a glow from the wedding, and I'll be just fine just remembering that, not the pregnancy. :)

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Thanks. :)

Yep.

Indeed, I know where you're coming from, and largely agree. But I happen to find the way Ross occasionally behaves rather irritating, and "Mental Geller" is a convenient label. I have liked Ross more than ever in some episodes this season, especially in 709 "TOW All the Candy", and yet I most disappointed by his behaviour in 722 "TOW Chandler's Dad". In the finale I sympathised with his attempts to protect his sister, and lauded the lengths he went to in order to get Chandler to the altar in time.

Not at all Jaime, I feel much the same way, and they worked very well together in 716 "TOW the Truth About London". But Ross was not a good friend to Rachel when he made sure that Officer Hanson saw her driving licence had expired, was he?

Okay. :)

That's a very good point. She's also the one most in control, since she made Allesandro give her the job by proving she was the best.

I think that all English-speaking peoples call a shirt a "shirt". Well, in Britain, the garment worn underneath the shirt is a vest (but they are rarely worn these days) while the garment worn outside the shirt is a waistcoat, usually worn with a suit consisting of jacket & trousers.

If an American described Chandler sitting on the couch in Central Perk, dressed in his vest & pants, they would have an image of a smart young executive - but we British would fall over laughing, since Chandler would be in public dressed only in his underwear, (think of Homer Simpson slobbing around at home watching TV).

You're very welcome Jaime - any theories?

Grin.

Ah - and there's me thinking I was the first. Oh well, I have thousands of suppressed posts to read on ATF, when I get around to it.

But Rachel is Jewish, so she would know "Mazel Tov" wasn't Greek.

Ahah - but happily your post is *not* gone... :)

You're welcome - anyway, what you originally said was this...

*�Except that it *is* believable. In my opinion, of course. After *�all, many people get cold feet right before they get married, so why *�wouldn't Chandler? It just took a little thing to make him snap, and *�it had probably actually been building inside him all this time. Heck, *�even his mom said she was surprised that they didn't screw him up *�enough for it NOT to happen. ;)

*�Also, this sudden burst of fear is different than his old commitment *�phobia. Before, it was the usual fear of being tied down, clingy *�girlfriends, etc. But this wasn't. It was his own twisted view that *�if he went through with the wedding, he, as a Bing, would ruin their *�relationship, get divorced, and he would *hurt Monica*. He didn't want *�to hurt Monica, but in his fear, he couldn't see that running out on *�her would *obviously* hurt her just as much, it was a different fear.

..and reading your fine words reminds me that maybe Ross's threat was a factor. Chandler freaked at the thought of becoming The Bings, where he would end up hurting Monica as Charles hurt Nora. He wasn't afraid of Ross's threat, but that was one part of the build-up to his fright.

Anyway, I've emailed you a copy of your lost post. :)

When Monica joins Chandler at the altar, he says to her, "You look beautiful." Then he points to her dress, and asks, "Is this new?"

Monica replies, "Not now."

I'm quite sure that her inflection indicates "The dress is not new now", as opposed to "Don't ask that question now."

Okay.

That's a thought. Can you tell?

Hmmm...

Yes indeed. If you watch it in slow motion, you can see the timing has to be spot-on, else LeBlanc would catch Oldman's hand in the door.

Oh thanks - so we can look out for a mention in the next finale!

I agree. If the Wardrobe Department had given Monica a fabulous dress, we would all be criticising the poor continuity. Not only would she be unable to afford it, but the previous dress was the perfect one, so this had to be slightly worse - for that was the sacrifice she made for Chandler.

Yeah.

Oh absolutely. According to the plot, the vows he refused from Ross would be the copy of Monica's, so the Thing We Wish We'd Seen is...

Chandler's original wedding vows, that were too funny.

..if you like that, it can go into the TWWWS list for S7-21.

Yay, me too! :)

Yeah.

I know exactly how you feel Jaime, which is why I've supplied plenty of alternative topics for discussion. But look at it this way - it's better that a pregnancy causes all that uncertainty, rather than the wedding.

Tennant

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p r i y aTennant Stuart

So everyone in Europe's seen it. So do we really need spoiler space. oh well.

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you forgot to mention that Ross comes to know of the 'pregnancy' at this point. They assume its Monica's and hence the hug.

Chandler dispenses his speech because Joey lets it slip to Monica that Chandler took off from the wedding. Monica isn't too happy on finding this out. So he just wanted to reassure her. Monica's speech was good but Chandler's kiss was amazing hehe.

If it is Rachel's baby. She won't abort or give it up or . Remember the episode TOW Phoebe's uterus, Rachel says that if she had a baby she would keep it and she wont be able to give it away. And a pregnancy going wrong wont really work for a comeday. I'd like to see Brad Pitt make an appearance as the handsome stranger. Then probably after he ditches her, Ross would step in and offer to care for the baby and her. I'm sure they'll put R&R together with season being the last. I just hope they dont put Joey and Phoebe together.

I think most people including me preferred the dress in episode 717 than the one she wore here. It was too plain. And her hair was also not done very well. She could have looked a whole lot better than she did. I don't know. Maybe be the casting people didn't have much time but then again they've had a whole year to get it right.

B'cos Jane Sibett was pregnant and too huge to hide.

dont worry. there aren't any yet. It'll be atleast August when shooting resumes for season 8.

Priya

PS: I really enjoy your reviews.

Tennant Stuartp r i y a

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Actually, the only country in Europe that has seen the finale is Britain, and even then that is only on an exclusive subscription channel - Season Seven will not *begin* on network television until July 13th (we think).

Has the whole of Season S7 been shown in the United Arab Emirates then?

Well yes, and I did in fact provide some, like this... :)

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Hi, Priya!

That is so, but I didn't forget, I *try* to keep these reviews short...

That would be another reason (two reasons need not be in conflict) but according to the plot of 721 "TOW the Vows", Chandler had a copy of Monica's vows, and Joey was going to let him go first, leaving her in the lurch. When Monica went first, Chandler *had* to throw his away.

I totally agree, I was just going through the possibilities. Don't forget that it *could* happen that the writers make Rachel do something in direct conflict with what was previously established. I hope they won't.

That all depends on how it's done, comedy & pathos work well together.

As a big Brad Pitt fan I think that's a great idea, but the whisper is that he will never make an appearance on Friends. However, I reckon that he could still do it if the make-up made him unrecognisable and it was all a huge in-joke - a bit like Michael Jackson on "The Simpsons".

That sounds very nice, and there are some good story possibilities with Ross not being the real father and all that. However I'm not sure that the producers would agree with you.

Me too - I'm hoping for Joey & Rachel, and Ross & Phoebe.

But that was the whole point of a beautiful story - Monica gave up the perfect dress as a sacrifice to the man she loves, more than any thing.

If you mean that Monica should have had her hair up then I disagree, she looked much better with her hair down like that. Rachel looked scrawny.

Good answer, but he simply could have turned up with his grandparents.

Yeah, but some of these discussions go on for many months...

Oh, *thankyou* Priya! :)

I do enjoy writing them, but praise such as yours makes it all worthwhile.

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I would have replied earlier if my email program didn't conk out. Oh so only Britain huh? okay. didn't know. There is one exclusive subscription channel that airs the show here but they are somewhere in the fifth season. I saw 5th and 6th seasons on dvd and season 7, I download the episodes off the net. So, I saw the wedding episode two weeks after it aired in the US. Thanks to all those nice ppl or irc who put up the videos. :)

Everyone has already said all that I wanted to say about this. Still, if chandler was actually stupid enough to try and read her vows, would Ross be more stupid and step forward and hand him the same vows that his sister has just said. Don't think so! :)

Okay, thats the first time, I'm hearing that. Interesting!!!

You know. Even if Monica never gave up that dress, we would have seen a different dress on the wedding than the one had picked on earlier ep.

And for all those who were wondering about Chandlers tux. I checked both eps and he is not wearing Diane Keaton's tux on the wedding. That one was bow tie and different vest and everything.

On Ross and Emily's wedding when Monica has her hair was done up, she looked very good. It all depends how its done.

Priya

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Do you by any chance burn them onto VCD, to watch on your DVD player?

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Ooh, that's an excellent point. Ross was being *very* protective of his little sister in the finale, so he definitely would not have done. Thanks a lot - Mardi must be kicking herself now that she didn't think of it! :)

I first came out as a Ross & Phoebe fan on the message board Angel's Friends last year, and expected to be flamed for it, but to my great surprise I received an awful lot of support. This made Joey & Rachel fans feel safe enough to come out of hiding, but although they tried to convince me that Joey & Rachel would make a good couple too, I had always seen them as remaining single for their careers. Then Rachel moved in with Joey, and their whole dynamic changed...

Why?

Okay, thanks. I guess he was put off the idea of wearing a woman's clothing, and took one of the tuxedos that Monica had pre-approved.

Yes you're right, she did look good then, and Phoebe's hair looked great at this wedding. But Monica has looked horrible on other occasions with her hair pulled back, IIRC the last time we saw Janice is one. As you say, it all depends on how it's done, but I think it also depends on the woman's neck & bone structure, and here JA does not score well, IMHO.

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Ouch! Ooh! Must. . . stop. . . kicking. . . . ;)

That *is* an excellent point. But hey, I *did* mention that Ross tells him "you can't *do* that!" when Chandler says he stole Monica's vows and changed the name (7.21). This does fit in with Ross being unwilling to hand him those vows at the wedding.

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This could work. ;)

I just hope they dont put Joey and

Ugh, I couldn't agree more. NO Joey and Phoebe, please, please, pretty please!

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Yeah. I loved it. I especially enjoyed the scenes with Gary Oldman and Matt LeBlanc. They were both brilliant!

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I don't think it was, but maybe I'm wrong.

All who say, that the writers don't know their series, were proved wrong this episode. I haven't seen so many past-episode references in one: - Stephanopolus was this guy the girls were watching across the street in an earlier episode - Joey gave the finger without actually giving it. - Jack and Judy Geller seem to have a similar "list" like Ross and Rachel did and I think there were even more, I can't remember right now.

Well, she though the Americans were fighting the Mexicans in WWI. Probably just another mix-up, hehe.

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I think I'm not one of those, who thought the first dress was better. I like wedding dresses to be plain, just like the second one, Monica had.

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I'd be hoping Ross :-)

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Yeah - strangely enough, some fans saw the acting story as okayish filler, while others such as yourself really loved it.

Okay.

Absolutely, as so often happens. Of course the fact that the writers of this episode actually *created* the whole bloody show does help!!!

That was 104 "TOW George Stephanopoulos", and I feel suitably ashamed for not spotting it - I was too please to get "Anastassakis".

That's right, as invented by Ross as a boy (see S4-05).

Rachel did

That was the famous Freebie List, and although R+R did work theirs out, it was originally a Chandler & Janice thing (see S3-05).

If you remember, please let me know - but in fact last year's finale contained *six* lovely past-episode references, the most astonishing being Chandler's deduction that Monica had been at Richard's apartment, for he recognised her 'usual', a scotch on the rocks with a twist. To write this, you have to go all the way back to 210 "TOW Russ", where Monica drank that while on a date with Fun Bobby.

Haha, but it turns out that Jewish Rachel was wishing them good luck.

Ah - you're the first one to say this, Didi. :)

Okay... but when did this breakthrough in their relationship take place?

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I saw it as a tedious filler.

PS, I'll have to comment on your review properly later, since Turnpike failed to pick up the original post, so I'll have to request it specifically.

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I knew you would say that. :)

Oh dear - I could always repost it for you, if you like?

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I've got it now.

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Okay, great - I'll look forward to your reply! :)

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Sorry for snipping from a reply but I cannot get the original post here - it appears to have expired already!

Acido_phi_lus is a bacteria-thing, beneficial to digestion apparently, that turns up in things like Yakult and Actimel and those kinds of things. Lactobacillus acidophilus to be precise. I'm just sorry Joey didn't add Snuffleopagus to the list.

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No worries - I've sent you a copy of both parts. :)

Snuffleopagus? Go on, I'll fall for it...

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Taking the trash out is definitely not a Rachel-like thing to do. It might be that she took it out to cover her tracks (to avoid having anyone discover the test), but didn't notice that her clump of tissues had stuck to the bottom. In that case, she either thought Monica really did also take a test that morning, or realized that her emptying had not been thorough.

Monica picked out the bridesmaid dresses. She takes the blame or credit depending on whether you liked them or not. ;)

Yup, I remember this from a special on JW--I think on A&E's "Biography."

The maid of honor is not always dressed differently from the other bridesmaid(s). This was the case at my brother's wedding.

Maybe Monica insisted--this would be just like her!

I have a feeling this won't be explained.

Probably.

Yup, but only because someone here pointed that out right after the episode aired in the U.S.

She panicked?

That was a nice moment.

She's very literal?

Yes.

We may never know.

I don't think we're meant to believe he was actually planning to use them. I think that was a joke both on his part and the writers.

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It sure isn't - she rarely did it when she was Monica's roomie, and you can bet she won't do it when she's a guest.

That is possible, but very unlikely, especially if the trash contains something you really don't want others to find out about. The most likely explanation is that Rachel lied about emptying the trash to convince Phoebe that the test was Monica's.

Ah - now there seems to be a tradition of making the bridesmaids look bad to make the bride look good. Not only is this reprehensible, on a purely artistic level it doesn't work, they should be like the setting for the jewel. However, in this case there was nothing wrong with the bridesmaids outfits, Phoebe looks fine in hers, but Rachel's hair is just dreadful like that, and her face & figure look scrawny.

What's "A&E"? (here it means "Accident & Emergency")

Fair enough. Thanks.

Could be. There was a lot of variation, as though everyone bought their own, but all to a similar theme which Monica 'suggested'.

Hmmm...

Okay, but I'm hoping someone will do an expert comparison.

A dear friend reminds me that Stephanopoulos refers to the aide of former President Clinton, as in 104 "TOW George Stephanopoulos", and she informs me that Acidopholus is your small intestine's best friend!

There are several strains of this friendly bacteria, which naturally occur in your digestive tract. Their role is to prevent things like salmonella, yeast fungi and other nasties from interfering with your system. Acidopholus also helps the body absorb vitamins like B-complex and K. Unfortunately, it can be wiped out if you are given antibiotics, allowing drug-resistant microbes to flourish, but if you're concerned check http://www.wellmedia.com/news/week28/acid.html for advice.

She also says that the closet with "ICE" on the door is where the hotel hides the ice-making machine - but she has not been able to help with "Papasifakis", so does anyone have any ideas?

Lol, but my friend says that Rachel was simply wishing then good luck.

Yes indeed, he was seizing control of his own future, instead of allowing his childhood past to dominate him.

I dunno, that doesn't sound like Monica to me.

Me too, but that was the sacrifice Monica made for her beloved.

Yeah... :(

Could be, Mardi, could be - but it did fit with the established plot.

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Maybe, but couldn't Rachel just as easily have taken the test that morning? If she meant to avert suspicion from herself, I don't know how claiming to have taken out the trash (while not having done so) would achieve that.

Arts and Entertainment--it's a cable network. :)

Oh, I got "Stephanopolous" and "acidopholus"--it's just "Annastassakis"

I've got no idea about "Papasifakis."

Yes, it means (roughly) "congratulations" or "good luck," and is perfectly appropriate for a wedding, though probably not expected at a Greek Orthodox wedding. Surely JA would know what to say in this situation, but Rachel blurted out the first non-English congratulatory words she could think of, "Mazel Tov."

I know--and I thought was awfully decent of her. She also didn't let Chandler know what had happened, so she wasn't seeking credit for the sacrifice either, which was doubly decent of her. :)

them.

Oh, but I guess that depends on how you interpreted the established plot. When I saw the vows episode, I never really believed Chandler planned to plagiarize Monica's vows for the wedding. I thought, rather, that he was blowing off steam--he was having such a hard time writing the vows, and he knew "funny" was off-limits. I assumed he would be writing something new between then and the wedding. :)

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I'm saying the test *was* taken that morning, and by Rachel. Should Mrs.Pitt not fall pregnant this summer, then the test was negative, but by the time that Phoebe found it the colour had changed to show a false positive, neatly explaining why Rachel was so shocked.

Because she feared that if Phoebe thought that Chandler took off because his fianc�e was pregnant, then possibly that would be the last straw, and she'd tell Monica who would deny it - then Rachel is in *huge* trouble.

Ah - thankyou.

It's a proper Greek family name, but then so is "Anastassakis" and we know that wasn't chosen at random, so neither was "Papasifakis".

And quite likely for a Jewish girl.

Yep, absolutely wonderful. How can people describe Monica as a shrew?

Okay, but you are assuming that the story in S7-21 was not really as it seemed, and then you are having to assume that the story in S7-24 was not really as it seemed, to account for it. On the other hand, it's simpler just to let the story in S7-24 follow the story in S7-21. :)

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But what I've described is the way 7.21 seemed to me. And in 7.24, it seemed to me that Chandler decided to forego his written vows not because they were Monica's with a few words changed, but because he thought of something more powerful to say and--necessary because of Joey's little slip-up--reassuring to Monica. So for me the story in 7.24 *does* follow that in 7.21--it's just not exactly the same as your interpretation. Rashomon again. ;)

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Well, I'm talking about what we saw actually happen on the screen, and the words that the characters actually said - while you're talking about their thoughts, their intentions, their beliefs, and their hidden motivations.

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Okay, I have a counter-example for you. In another post, you maintained that you're sure Monica didn't mean her "you don't get to win anymore" line. Are you not talking about her "thoughts, intentions, and beliefs"? Using your reasoning above, we must believe that Monica meant the words she actually said--unless there's an episode in season 8 where she says, "Hey, Chandler, remember when I told you "you don't get to win anymore"? Well, I didn't really mean that. And Chandler might say, "Oh, that's good. And since we're confessing things, I almost plagiarized your vows at the last minute, but I didn't, because Joey let you go first."

You made an interpretation of Monica's intentions--one that differed from what she said. I happen to agree with it. Similarly, I can't believe that Chandler ever seriously contemplated using Monica's vows. Imagine how hurt she would have been. Chandler would surely realize that she wouldn't take it well, and doesn't everything we know about Chandler support the idea that he wouldn't knowingly hurt her? Some people have speculated that Chandler will turn out to be the father of Rachel's baby. I can't imagine either Chandler or Rachel doing something that would be so hurtful to Monica. Sure, recycling her vows would not have had the same magnitude, but Monica would have been stung, and I think Chandler would know that. And even if he didn't realize, surely Ross's "You can't *do* that!" would have given him a clue. Joey's retort, "If he goes first he can!" was nothing but a punchline, as far as I'm concerned.

Oh, well. Rashomon.

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The difference there is that Monica's words conflicted with her actions.

Chandler's actions did not conflict with his words.

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GAH!!!!

Neither of us is going to convince the other on this point. You're not changing your mind, and I'm not changing mine. I think the Monica example parallels the Chandler one, and you don't. I think the idea of using Monica's vows was a joke--in the tag (small-T, thank goodness) no less, you see it as uncontrovertable truth. I give up. Not on my point of view, but on any attempt to convince you of its merit.

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Ah well you see, just to prove you wrong again, I *have* changed my mind, but not because of anything you have said, but Priya, who found a hole in the argument where there was a conflict. Ross was being *very* protective of his little sister in the finale, so he definitely would not have given Chandler the same vows that Monica had just said... :)

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Okay, well, I bow to Priya's ability to change your mind. And I concede my utter and complete failure to make so much as a dent. . . .

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Sorry Mardi, it's nothing personal, as I'm sure you realise. But Priya did what I pointed out that you hadn't done - she found an action that conflicted with what the characters said. I am never intransigent.

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Wow. Thanks. I'm glad I could help you change your mind. Although I must admit you did take that tag scene in the vows episode too much to heart. But can you imagine if what would have happened if Joey had let Chandler go first and he said all of Mon's vows. What ever would she have done....to him??? LOL

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I think there's a good chance they would have stayed single! I'm happy to see you agree about not taking that tag seriously--this makes me feel a little better. :)

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Hi Mardi,

Until I read Tennan'ts post on the tag scene, I didn't think that anyone could take that scene into account for the actual wedding. *grin* (no offence Tennant. I found it quite amusing the way you were piling up your arguments for that scene.)

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You're welcome. I'm always willing to consider fresh evidence.

But what you saw still happened. :)

That's presumably what Ross told Joey & Chandler, after S7-21 ended! ;)

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I was going to reply to this yesterday, but AOL screwed up royally and.. I couldn't. :P

Well, I'm glad you agree at least somewhat :) Theres nothing wrong with not liking a person's flaws, I just think the "Mental Geller" title makes it sound as though he's a different person. Plus, Ross always wanted a cool nickname like that, so he probably wouldn't mind it. ;)

Actually, I just think that that's the kind of friends they are.. I don't happen to think Rachel has been that great a friend in instances.. they both have their days. :)

mm, nope. Sadly, I'm not the most creative at thinking up theories and such. I *really* wish they'd have at least mentioned it though. That's just annoying..

ok, I know this must have been discussed to death, but.. do we have proof that Rachel is jewish? I know that people have assumed she was just because she seemed like the typical Jewish American Princess, or whatever that's called, but I don't recall any set proof. And if anyone would have it, it'd be you. :)

:)

Thanks! :D I got it.. I liked that post. Did you happen to agree with any of it? :)

Hmm, I just took it to mean "Don't ask that question now." ::shrug::

Oh dear, I have to follow up my suggestions with proof now? tehee.. :) But no, I can't tell.

I love little things like that, I really do

Lets hope! Hey, that'd be great as part of the last episode, though.. Joey *finally* getting his big break, maybe. :)

*Very* good point!

Yay! ;D

Another very good point! I suppose it's just touchyness on my part, that yet *another* finale was overshadowed by Rachel (and by speculation, Ross too). So.. Monica was right in a way, Rachel DID steal her thunder, even if it was only her thunder for the viewing audiance.

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And if it was vest, pants and suspenders.......

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I could be wrong. But wouldn't he still be missing a shirt??!!

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Other names include Bea, Bobo the Sperm Guy, Clifford Alverez, Mr.Big-shot, Neil, Red Ross, Ross-A-Tron, Rossie, Sailor, Wet Pants, and Wet-head.

That's very accommodating of you. :)

Yep.

I'm just wondering if we'll see the Swing Kings at the reception.

Yes, it has been discussed to death. The Greens & Gellers are Jewish, though Judy isn't. Both Monica & Rachel wear the Star of David.

Some... ;)

Listening to it again, Monica's inflection *clearly* indicates "Don't ask that question now", but don't ask what was wrong with me before...

No sweat.

It proves that this show can still cut it.

Maybe, but he'll be needed for Season Nine.

Thanks

Okay, it's in.

Yeah, but we were all applauding Chandler & Monica. :)

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Probably. Even more so when she had thought about how weird it is to take someone else's trash out.

Would you have wanted her to wear jeans to the wedding? I thought she looked great. Didn't you notice Phoebe and Rachel wore the same dress?

So it's still a continuity error, right?

I think the "cynics" don't mind so much that we rarely see them at work, but that they seem to have an almost endless amount of free time.

No, because then you'd have to explain away another continuity error.

It's getting tedious, but that's inconsistent again.

Because she doesn't know any Greek and Mazel Tov sounded exotic enough to her.

Lame sentimentality doesn't do it for me.

She doesn't. She means that Chandler should not joke around at that moment.

No, so enlighten us!

What do you think...

Yes, indeed.

Of course, how could you not notice?

That is probably the movie's opening weekend. I didn't get that at first.

You are probably not looking for the answer "because the producers couldn't get all the secondary characters together just to have them sit in the wedding audience".

See above.

And again.

No.

Very generous of you to explain the true meaning of the cliffhanger for the poor souls who were still in doubt.

There are two ways to look at the whole pregnancy thing. The first way is to look at it from the writers' view. The answer seems to be fairly obvious to me then: nobody knows. They came up with a cliffhanger that would keep the viewers in suspense. How it will be resolved is something to worry about in the future. When they start writing for the next season they will decide if somebody is indeed pregnant, if so if it's Rachel or someone else and if it's Rachel who will be the father. This will very much depend on any actual pregnancies of the actresses.

The other way is less realistic but more fun: try to look for clues in the episode and/or the rest of the season. In that case it's quite clear who is pregnant: Rachel. But that is only IF there is a pregnancy. Couldn't Rachel's reaction to Phoebe finding the test mean: "Oh God, I really thought it was negative"?Negative pregnancy tests are known to turn positive after a certain period of time. It could also mean that Rachel suddenly realised that someone other than herself, Monica or Phoebe is pregnant. Who? Anybody's guess. If Rachel is indeed pregnant, who's the father? It's not Ross, because it's impossible something happened between them that we were not allowed to see. It's not Joey, because that would be just ridiculous. Would he sleep with Ross's eternal love? Would Rachel even want to sleep with Joey? Would the viewers accept such a far fetched idea? Nah. It's not Chandler, obviously. Who is it then? Probably some stranger. Brad Pitt can play him, running away when he hears of the pregnancy. Rachel will be left alone and Ross can come in to help. All's well that ends well. The option of an abortion is probably not very likely, this being a mainstream American tv show...

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I'm not saying that Rachel looked really lovely *because* she wore a blue top & denims, it was at that time that her hair & make-up were better.

No, it was a changed premise.

We actually see each of them for about 14 seconds per day, so it's not surprising that the show focuses on the interesting bits.

Thankyou for saving the world from that fate.

There you go, Bobolink, one to shout about.

Could be, but my friend says it means "good luck" in Hebrew.

Spoken like a soup nazi.

I considered that, but it doesn't sound like that.

You may now criticise CCA's acting ability.

I'm asking because I can't recall it. If I knew I'd say so.

That some did, since some rode horses.

Some didn't, it was very fast.

Oh I got that, but I didn't know when Memorial Day was.

Yep.

I don't think I'd have handled the shock if you had.

You're welcome.

I agree with everything you say, except for the bit about Joey.

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Given that I knew pre-viewing who the actual implied expecting mum was, I was watching this part in utter disbelief at Phoebe's stupidity - Rachel was crying every five seconds, her reaction to the test-finding was a blatant "Oh my God, someone's found it" rather than an "Oh my God, Monica's pregnant", her taking the trash out (since when does Rachel ever do *anything* domestic?!) and her insistence that they couldn't tell Chandler under any circumstances, and Phoebe *still* didn't figure it out? Okay, yes, pretty much a blatant plot device to keep the secret until the end, but Phoebe would (should) have been smart enough to figure out that all was not as it seemed with Rachel just on her constant crying. (And no, I don't consider the "I think I'll sleep with Joey" any kind of hint, although I do think Monica should have been smart enough to figure out something was up as well.)

Phoebe was pretty much just used to move the pregnancy plot forward in this episode, wasn't she? (Or maybe not - I have the flu, so that's just my illness-induced take on it.)

On the Monica-getting-ready note - this may be very posh-posh of me, but wouldn't any obsessed bride like Monica be likely to get their hair and makeup done professionally? It's not that huge a chunk out of the budget, at least not where I live anyway.

Not all directors are like that, are they?

I cheered when Joey showed up. He *made* the ceremony - I was so worried it was going to be a sap-fest (as I often am with these two) that I was about to walk out the room and make some tea - but Joey's complete botching of the ceremony pretty much made this <she says through gritted teeth> one of my favourite TV weddings ever </gritted teeth>. Now, *there's* something I never thought I'd say.

I felt sorry for Rachel here - she's really got herself into a bit of a pickle here, hasn't she?

Her dress and hair weren't up to much considering it's Monica though, were they? I remember thinking that Rachel and Phoebe's dresses were much more elaborate, and then something along the lines of "Something's gone a bit wrong here..."

I liked Ross in this episode (and feel sorry for DS, considering that he has pretty much been reduced to a supporting player - by his own admission - when he's shown what he can be capable of). Roll on "Band of Brothers"...

She will do. You *know* how these things turn out. ;)

Could have done, would have done, should have done...

Dear God, I hope not.

Because as it happens, an ill-fitting dress can make you look worse than in denims. (This being the reason why I had my dress for my Christmas ball made by a dressmaker.)

He could have done that on a Saturday, though - it's not unheard of for office people to work Saturdays. (My dad being one of them on occasion.)

Those Yanks don't know diddly-squat bt Nglsh. ;)

Or the set designer thought it would be strange if they wore different dresses. (Which brings me back to my earlier comment about ill-fitting dresses - often happens when two people wear the same dress in a show, more often than not they're from a shop.)

Because it looked pretty?

Who?!

George Stephanopolus, aka. one of President Clinton's co-workers, aka. he who is lusted after in TOW Geoge Stephanopolus, way back when towards the beginning of S1. Surprised you didn't pick that one up, Tennant. ;)

Probably rented. I didn't think her dress was particularly flattering either - who's willing to bet they went over budget with all the guest stars and couldn't afford a more elaborate dress for her? Shame.

No. ;)

Seems strangely like certain people I've worked with in the past...

ARE YOU KIDDING ME, TENNANT?!?! *lol*

Almost definitely.

I knew he did something on the way out, just didn't realise what.

Our second May Bank Holiday weekend. ie. Pearl Harbour was released on May 25th in America, which was Memorial Day Weekend for the Americans (and Canadians?), but May 28th was our May Bank Holiday.

The dress was probably the "something borrowed", and possibly the "something old" as well...

I bet he was, we just didn't see him. Same with Carol and Susan. Plus I believe one of the actresses is heavily pregnant right now (or was at the time) - would *you* like to try and explain that?

Again, no idea what you're talking about. This is the first ep I've seen in *ages* - must catch up with vids/DVDs.

No, actually. I was happy, but I didn't applaud. The cynic in me strikes again. ;)

Do they want us to presume *anything* about who the father is just yet? Or is it going to be held back until a sweeps period?

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Yes, I see what you mean Tina, but it is not so blatant when you do not know in advance - although I was suspicious at the end of S7-23.

Errr well, Phoebe was also the one who found Chandler, and she was also the one who made the bridesmaid outfit look good - Rachel was scrawny.

Sorry to hear you're unwell Teens, get well soon. :)

I think the plot required her to stay at home so that she could be the one doing pregnancy tests in the bathroom & fretting in the bedroom.

In all my years of stage & screen I've seen nothing like it. The director seemed to me like a totally unrealistic character who just didn't worry about anything going wrong, just plodded on & on.

Yay! Way to go Teenster! It was great fun to see a wedding in reverse.

At this moment in time she clearly has - I just hope that the writers aren't forced to cheat later on because Jen & Brad let them down.

Monica looked lovely to me, but then I'm just a guy...

Ross was very good - and considering that this was a wedding episode in which he wasn't getting married, he was the most pro-active character.

He-he, if only Rachel had announced her pregnancy as the cliffhanger then the two thunder-thefts would have neatly bookended the season.

Yeah, yep, yes.

Speaking as a bloke, I'd rather snog Chandler's dad than Chandler... ;)

Okay, so why was her hair & make-up so much better? (In the morning)

Oh, of course - but the point is that it's unheard of for offices to be deserted on a Tuesday.

Lol

Maybe the designer was making a point that these were off-the-rack?

Could be, but I think it's that designer again.

The woman who took the good wedding dress away from Monica.

I know, I feel very ashamed. I was too pleased to get "Anastassakis".

Acidopholus are your small intestine's best friends.

Rented? I hadn't thought of that. Hmmm. You know Tina, despite what you said about professionally done hair & make-up being inexpensive, I reckon that it was Monica's budget that was cut to the bone, not the show's.

This is very perplexing...

You can have bastard film directors with no sympathy in their souls, but they still care about what happens on the set. If an actor is too drunk to perform, you order a flunkey to do something about it, you don't just carry on ruining take after take.

Well, they might have been cavalry officers... ;)

Yeah.

It was very fast - you can learn from that.

Okay, ta.

Excellent point!!

Yes, apparently he was at his father's second wedding, but we just did not see him. Jane Sibbett who plays Carol was pregnant during 716 "TOW the Truth About London", but most of her scenes were cut out of the British version, so it was harder to spot.

As for explaining it, Jane is preggers, Carol is not, simple as that.

Oh, you've missed an awful lot of good stuff - this season ended up as my second favourite of all time, with 16 out of 24 episodes gaining my seal of approval. Get the DVDs with the uncut versions.

Will you applaud if Ross & Rachel ever marry again?

Dunno. My guess is that something will be said in S8-01 or S8-02, and that if JA is pregnant then Rachel is, and if not then the pregnancy test showed a false positive after being in the trash too long.

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But as Chandler never seems to go to work, I doubt his co-workers would look in his office on a tuesday either !!

Or a really control-freak Bride dressing the whole wedding party ?

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Helen would, though.

She's not that much of a control freak, else everything would have matched, but it does look like she suggested a colour scheme.

And I doubt that a control freak would trust her wedding dress to a friend who keeps making mistakes.

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I fully admit, though, that I'd rather not have known - I probably wouldn't have watched the episode if I didn't, or at least wouldn't have paid as much attention to it, but I didn't want to know. I found out completely by accident while reading a news article about BP a couple of days after it had aired in NA.

Ah, I thought it was the dress you were on about. I did wonder about the hair, I must admit. Unless it was deliberate, to show that Rachel was so worried about her pregnancy that she wasn't that bothered about how she looked...

My deputy boss is being enough of a bitch to mean I can't get to the docs until at least Thursday, though. :( If I didn't need the money for uni, I'd probably quit, that girl is making my life hell right now. (And about uni - I'm doing Film and Drama and the uni's got loads and loads and loads of opportunities to make really important contacts, SO THERE!!! :P Plus I changed my mind about it all after going to an open day.)

Doubt it - at what point was Monica fretting throughout the whole episode? Unless you mean it was in order to throw people off the track.

Probably just a plot device. Joey's way of getting it out was v. clever. ;)

Very much so.

I honestly don't think the writers have given as much weight to real life as everyone seems to think they have - I doubt they'd plan out such a weighty storyline solely on the basis that the actress *might* get pregnant over the summer. It's a very haphazard way of doing things, too haphazard to warrant such a cliffhanger if you ask me.

It was just because she's been so obsessive over her wedding plans that it seemed jarring to me - she didn't even have her hair up, which budget or no budget I'd have fought tooth and nail for. But then again, I'm high maintanence. ;)

For once. ;)

Would have ruined the effect, methinks.

Speaking as a woman, I'd rather snog neither...

*And out comes the flameproof asbestos suit...* ;)

Again, maybe another hint of Rachel's worries later on.

Except if it's a four-day Bank Holiday. :P

Could have been.

Exactly - it looked pretty! ;)

And why would she have anything to do with the change of location?

Don't think rented is that expensive either. IIRC, for the school Christmas ball most lads and quite a few girls rented their outfits from a place in Cambridge, and it didn't cost more than about �50 for a few days. It's probably more for wedding dresses, granted, but I don't see how it would have broken the bank. But again, I'm super high-maintenance. ;)

No, my former Drama teacher. ;)

How to swipe alcohol without anyone noticing? ;)

Didn't see it, wouldn't know.

I was going to - I'm waiting on the second lot. I've seen the first four, just nothing past that.

Possibly. It's like Buffy's death, though - if it happens again, next time will be a bit of an anti-climax.

Again, I seriously doubt the writers would plan such a weighty storyline solely on the *possibility* of the actress being pregnant. Aside from anything else, how would they convince the network to go with what is right now presumed to be the big S8 plot?

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I find that the best policy is to watch all of the episodes. It is worth sitting through the poor ones (8 this season) to avoid missing any of the good ones (16 this season).

That would be an excellent point, if only she'd not done the same thing in 718 "TOW Joey's Award". We saw her getting ready - she had finished her make-up & put on her jewelry, and her hair (which was down) looked very nice. If it wasn't for the fact that she was still in her bathrobe she would have been ready to go. However, when we next saw her at the awards ceremony, in a beautiful red dress that showed off her splendid figure, her pinched-back hair made her face look scrawny & horrible.

Curiously enough, Miss Aniston attended the Emmy 2000 awards, (click on http://www.eonline.com/Features/Awards/Emmys2000/Gallery/index.html for a picture), in a very similar dress, and seen from the front her hair was the same as when Rachel wore her bathrobe. She looked great.

That's great, and thanks for the ":P", I love it when girls do that.

That's exactly right.

Yes it was! Some people thought that Joey was foolish putting a drunken man in his car - but of course in the business, you are sent a car.

Yes, we've enjoyed lots of lovely stuff like that this season. :)

The tabloids tell us that the Pitts & the Arquettes are locked in a battle to see who can produce a baby first - the headline on the current issue of National Enquirer screams "JEN'S $13m NURSERY", which turns out to be the value of her whole house - and although this is a load of hype it would be peculiar if two sets of newlyweds, now well into their thirties, were not trying for a baby when their bosses actually want them to.

It would be so funny if Mrs.Stern is the one who becomes pregnant...

Ah well Tina, you look very nice with your hair down... ;)

He's had more than his fair share this season - he was also the most pro-active in 707 "TOW Ross's Library Book", 709 "TOW All the Candy", 710 "TOW the Holiday Armadillo" and 716 "TOW the Truth About London".

Oh, but of course.

Well, I shan't flame you, and any Chandler fan should be glad to have him to herself, and let the other women fight over her leavings... ;)

Well, possibly that was the director's intention.

Sure, but not in the middle of May.

Thanks.

He-he. :)

I was thinking that Megan might have ruined Monica's plan for that venue as part of a vendetta for being wrestled to the floor, but since then I've realised that when Monica's parents let her down about paying for at least some of the wedding, the museum fell outside her limited budget.

Well, that's exactly what I'm saying - she rented the dress to save money.

Chandler would love maintaining you... ;)

Ahah.

How to get your timing right.

Oh, you missed a fabulous Ross & Rachel story.

Ah. Out of the first four, I only really liked S7-03.

The season picks up after that.

Oh, Buffy is dead is she? So, she is one of the vampires now?

Presumably medical tests have shown that the two couples are fertile, and right now they're going at it hammer & tongs...

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Yes, but when you're as busy as I've been these past few months, it's a real effort to make sure you see the last few eps of Buffy to know what's going on, let alone anything else. (I knew what was going to happen long before anyone else did, because I'm smart like that and had it sussed - but I still wanted to know what was going on. Oh, and Dawn must die. *lol*)

Her hair just suits her face better when it's down then, obviously.

Peugeot 206 Coupe Cabriolet for me, then...

Yeah, but trying and actually succeeding are two different things, don't forget. The last thing either couple would need would be to know that a major plot depended on them getting pregnant.

Well, it's not so long now, as it was in such bad shape it stopped growing. :( It's about chin-length now, though, and growing at a rate of knots. ;)

Alright, I'm getting the DVDs out already! *lol* Any idea when the rest are due out?

No, in the middle of June next year, though. ;)

Who rang my mum up at 12.40 today to check I was going to my Drama exam, in spite of the fact I'd been there for 20 minutes already! *sigh*

I generally missed a lot of stories anyway, don't rub it in. :)

Nuh-uh - didn't you see "The Gift", then? She threw herself into a portal thingy in order to stop the apocalypse (oh what a surprise) - it was either her blood or that of her "sister" that could stop it (her sister not really being her sister, rather an energy force known as the Key - called Dawn ;)). It's Joss Whedon, though, so who knows whether she really *is* dead or not? They start filming again next week though, so spoilers are on the way! Hurrah! *grin*

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I don't know who Dawn is, but maybe Dawn could die at dawn?

Exactly. If you download Paul Hyett's vidcaps, cut the hair off Rachel in FR724B, flip it & enlarge it by 61%, and paste it back on top of her in FR724T, you can see the vast improvement. Her eyes look the same, but her nose & even more so her mouth are far better. It's very strange. Of course, if you only spend two minutes doing the job it looks very fakey, but you get the general idea. You can have a copy if you like.

You need something larger than that to fit your entourage in.

Yes, this is indeed true, but they can get medical assistance...

Yeah. :(
Yay!! :)

The schedule is 709-716 in July, 717-724 in September.

If you mean the Golden Jubilee thing, that's June 3rd & 4th.

Lol, it's good to know she's still on-form...

Enjoy the DVDs, sweetie.

Ah. I'm afraid I have never seen a Buffy episode all the way through.

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Hee hee. If you were a character on the show, Rachel would be fiving you a very disturbed look right now, and you'd be saying, "I-I-I didn't do that. Joey was in a porno!" ;)

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You have *way* too much time on your hands! :)

Well, since Sarah Michelle Gellar is signed up for a least 2 more seasons...

You don't know what you are missing. :)

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Did you notice where I said how long the job took?

I've put it into capital letters for you.

I've seen enough to get very bored very fast.

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Perhaps you just had a poor episode as your first one? :)

If my first Friends episodes had been TOW the Bullies, or TOW the Two Parties, I might never have gotten into it.

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I couldn't agree more. Buffy is one of the few shows I make a point of viewing. :)

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TOW Two Parties is excellent!!

Anyway, I've tried more than once, and I have just tried again, but it was just the same old stuff. I've recorded the odd Buffy for friends who couldn't get Sky, but soon lost interest in watching them.

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Dawn - Buffy's "sister". Now, given that Buffy never even *had* a sister before this last season, you *know* something supernatural is up when she shows up out of nowhere and everyone acts like they've always known her, memories included... in reality, she is a big energy thing called "The Key", which can be used to open portals to other dimensions, and these monk people made her into human form and made her Buffy's "sister" because they knew the Slayer would protect her. Quite why that had to entail Buffy chucking herself into a portal to substitute her blood for Dawn's (there was this whole deal made about blood and life for about 13 episodes beforehand), thereby killing herself in the process, I have *no* idea... but that's Joss for you, he being the only person in the entire world who could pull something like that off.

And yes, I *would* like to appear on Buffy. I want to be the Big Bad, dammit. ;)

Eh... do I *have* to have an entourage?

Besides, I can't even drive a Renault 19 without pranging it at the moment, there's no way I could cope with anything bigger.

Yup. ;) It's all layered, though, which makes it a bit unmanageable. It's in the infamous "growing out" stage right now - I'm considering highlights again to keep me from getting bored to tears while I'm growing it out.

They made a bit of a cock-up only putting 4 eps on each DVD for S7 though, didn't they?

So?! ;)

Tell me about it. I'm just thankful I'll never have to be taught by her again... don't get me wrong, she's a great teacher, but she can be a tad overpowering at times. Having said that, though, she has *nothing* on the Head of Sixth at my base campus... now, *there's* a teacher I'm not going to rush to meet up with again any time soon.

See explanation above. ;) I kept up with what was going on through the net, but that was only really because you have to to have *any* clue of what's going on.

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Did the fans know straight away that she was fake sister, or were there a lot of complaints about bad continuity at first?

Oqu�, well best of luck sweetie. :)

DAHLING, you're not anyone unless you have *people*!

Well in that case, you definitely need people.

There's no answer to that...

That's because each episode is on twice, as originally aired, and in the uncut version. On July 9th we'll be able to see if "uncut" means the supersized version *plus* the extras we got.

So it's got nowt to do with Chandler's office being quiet on a Saturday.

And college is meeting your needs & aspirations?

Oh, so you don't watch Buffy either...

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717-724 are due in September, while I can now be more definite about 709-716 - they will be out on July 9th.

Both discs feature extended versions of the episodes.

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I'm still gonna wait for the box-set - hopefully they will put the extended versions of 713-16 on there, or I'll be forced to get that DVD separately as well.

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Are DVD Zone going to be selling it?

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I don't see why not.

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Then they'll do the best price, so worth waiting for.

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I had a different take on this.

Chandler: "Is that new?" Monica: "Not now!"

As in, Monica has been prepping Chandler on how to treat girls - compliment their hair, notice when they're wearing new clothes, and so on. Chandler was just following "instructions"; Monica was telling him it wasn't an appropriate time!

Tim (tm)

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That was tabloid crap, it wasn't true. Meanwhile, "Friends" may not be a millionth as important as child murder, but since you complain about thoughtlessness & lack of consideration, why did you strip off the spoiler space? Most British fans have not seen this episode yet.

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How do you know? You claimed not to have seen it beforehand!

This may possibly have more significance than it seems.

Red Ross? :)

To say the least!

Her expression is my final vidcap of the season.

Personally, I thought his storyline was as stupid and unnecessary as the infamous 'hand-twin' one.

Monica, I'd say. Surely by now her staff will have lightened up on her.

I did wonder.

It struck me as odd, actually, since it was the lifelong commitment that seemed to be his greatest fear.

He could barely stand up, and given how drunk he was, if anything came out of his mouth, it probably wouldn't have been spittle! :)

That's what I assumed.

No idea.

Kids and formal occasions don't really mix!

I dare say she won't want even to be in the same State as Ross! :)

Only metaphorically.

How could we - it hasn't even been filmed yet!

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I did not see it beforehand.

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Possibly, but I've heard that Jennifer Aniston asked the studio audience to vote on whether Rachel should say "Joey" or "Ross".

Could be.

Yes indeed - and thanks for all the vidcaps you've done this year.

I must disagree. I cringed at the hand-twin, but I really liked the story about the great actor, even if it wasn't a classic.

Yes, thanks to Joey.

You're welcome. If you imagine Chandler without his jacket, then he could be dressed in his waistcoat & trousers, then take off an item of clothing to reveal that he's wearing braces.

Or as the Americans would put it, Chandler could be dressed in his vest & pants, then take off an item of clothing to reveal that he's wearing suspenders!!! ;)

Not after he held little baby girl Chandler in his arms, in S6-05.

Ewwww!!!! :)

Maybe Monica wouldn't invite her, but there are lots of others.

Oh, Marita & I did, literally.

Well, my S7-16 is still going from three months ago.

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Then how did you *know* we got exactly what the US did?

I find it hard to believe they wouldn't have had her say Ross though.

Thanks, it's nice to now they are appreciated.

On this issue though - I've moved my TV card to my new computer, but it has a few 'issues' with it.

I can still do vidcaps - bigger ones than before, but there are problems with trying to capture clips, so you may still not be able to find out what Maggie Wheeler's real voice sounds like!

No, I'd say it was more recently than that, that he got over his fear of the metaphorical tunnel.

If you're watching it alone, and you do that, anyone overhearing you thinks you are a loon! :)

Only the London C&M hotel room scene really had that effect on me.

But it's hardly on-topic any more, and besides it was at least filmed when the thread began! :)

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IIRC, the person who originally posted this said that JA asked the audience which would be *funnier*. I can see how a lot of people would think saying "Joey" would be more humorous.

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Because the idea is ridiculous, right? :)

"It's true! It's true!"--Kurt Angle, the *other* Real American Hero Life sucks, but you *can* do something about it.
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Hee hee. That's definitely what I was thinking when she said it. By the end of the episode, I was thinking, "Hmmmm." ;)

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Seriously...the thought of Rachel and Joey is just...weird to me. Joey belongs with Phoebe. Heh...never thought I'd say that!

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You may already have seen my ranting about this in other posts, but in any event, I really, really DON'T want Joey and Phoebe paired up. I'd much rather see Phoebe/David-the-Physicist (Hank Azaria) and Joey with someone from outside of the group.

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Or maybe the majority of the audience were totally anti Ross & Rachel like me. So they didn't want Rachel even thinking about sleeping with Ross even while bluffing. LOL

I SO agree. Joey and Phoebe - no way. I don't even want Ross and Rachel back together. Phoebe should get back with David when he gets back from Minsk and Joey should definitely get a new girl for himself.

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I guess I have mixed feelings about R & R. I could enjoy their being brought back together if it were done very well. Without Rachel trying to force Ross to take complete responsibility for everything that went wrong the first time around; without R & R getting drunk and marrying without really meaning to. They'd need to find a way to get rid of whatever resentments they feel toward each other to make them snipe at each other in really awful ways from time to time. Otherwise I'd rather they find other partners and be good friends to each other.

If Ross marries a fourth time, I think it should stick. The poor guy shouldn't have to go through another divorce. (Phoebe would never let him hear the end of that, never mind she's been married twice herself, and is probably still married to whomever she married in Vegas.)

I guess Hank Azaria might be too expensive to bring him on long term. Maybe he and Pheebs could reunite sometime not too long before the series ends (once the producers et. al. know for sure when that will be), and there could be a small Phoebe-David arc that's wrapped up nicely.

Joey could marry someone who is on _Days of Our Lives_ in real life, playing herself. :)

If R & R don't reunite, maybe Ross could hook up with a wild linguistics professor. Rach could meet a hot, up-and-coming clothing designer who simply loves dressing her in his designs.

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I compared it with the transcript.

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Well, I can't confirm the story, since Mike Hilfig (if that's his name) has not yet reported back with where to find the filming report. But he claims that Jennifer Aniston asked for who would be funnier. If you are reading this Mike, please give me the source of your information.

Oh of course. I especially appreciate the increase in size from 480x360 to 672x504, although sometimes you don't capture a moment I would have.

Eek, well let me know when you do manage that. It's most annoying to recall that I've seen the first season of "Ellen" quite a few times.

Which scene in what episode are you talking about?

My reference is based on the fact that Chandler was still freaking out until he saw the romper suit in the gift shop, and then he realised that anything that could fit into that could not be scary.

What do you care what other people think? Just be happy.

Oh, that was the greatest moment ever in the history of the show!

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672*504 was the largest I could do on my old PC, but I *could* do them as large as 1600*1200 on my new one!

I won't though, since they'd take >100K each even at low quality, and I've only got 20Mb to play with. I'll probably go for 800*600, or at most 1024*768.

In the long run, it'll probably be easier if I just sent you a videotape!

BTW, I like that white jacket with the arm-buckles you're wearing! :)

We *SO* agree on that!

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Good-o, that would look great on my 21" monitor.

And will you do more than 16, say 24?

Okay then, if you mean that. :)

Yes, it's Versace.

Yep.

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On Thu, 28 Jun 2001, Tennant Stuart stated this considered view. Waking from my doze, I hastily scrawled -

Actually they wouldn't - they come out somewhat grainy.

Think about it - if I have to do smaller vidcaps because of space issues, then doing more of them would rather defeat the object! :)

I can't even being to imagine where you'd buy a Versace strait-jacket! :)

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Oh. :(

Get more web space?

Who said it was that? It's Catalonian...

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DVD ones look better, but I think 1024*768 is the best compromise between numbers & webspace.

Duh - why didn't I think of that! :)

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If you did 24 pictures at 800*600 they would still look good, and yet would consume 8% less web space.

Grin.

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Really? Gosh, I hadn't thought we'd be that lucky. :)

And before I start, I can assure you that there will be absolutely *no* bad vibes in this reply... I *loved* this one. :)

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Uh-oh. I totally believed it was Monica's. I don't know if that's because I had overheard some rumours saying she would get preggers by the end of the season, or the fact that there were dozens of rumours saying that CCA was pregnant in real life, but I was sure it was hers...

This was such a dramatic scene. JA and LK were great, but JA has the edge, especially after I realised what was really going on. The subtle hints she was dropping throughout the episode are even better when you watch it for the second time.

Kind of disturbing... Especially if it can count as a hint about stories next season.

Well, luckily, someone was willing to help him out. And could anyone have done a better job than Phoebe? I don't think so. Rachel was exhausted and too emotional, and Joey was too interested in his movie, so Phoebe was the best choice.

Joey? Joey? Okay, I knew they were leading up to something with these two... And I know many people will hate me for saying this, but I can totally see it happening, especially now.

The absolutely best way to convince Chandler that he and Monica are going to be just fine.

I was expecting Monica to find out what was really going on at this point. I didn't really think she would stay oblivious for the rest of the episode, and it was terrible to imagine her freaking out over a lost groom, when she nearly flipped out over a missing vest. Phoebe and Rachel did some great thinking here, though.

"I'll marry you and me right now, I have the power..." Another hint, perhaps?

And did you hear the gasp from the audience? I think almost every fan watching it on TV did the same thing. This had to mean a lonely bride crying over a lost groom who has freaked out and run off... I had been waiting for the wedding for over a year, and this was it?

Awww... And even her trademark: "I know!!"

I know I'm a sentimentalist, and perhaps that's a bad thing, but OMG, how adorable was this? Now I *know* there will be lots of Little-Bings in the future.

But how did Chandler know the priest was Greek Orthodox, unless he knows a lot about the religion, that is? At first he thought the priest was Joey in disguise, and when Monica walked up to him a few seconds later, he suddenly knew who the priest was. This puzzles me...

" Slippery little bugger!" I laughed out loud at that one. This story was much better than the spitting.

Lol!

So do you think she bribed him? ;)

Is it just me, or was it a bit weird that Monica didn't mention the word "love" in her vows at all? Don't get me wrong, her vows were beautiful, but I expected an "I love you" in the middle of it. Perhaps they needed her not to say anything like that to make his vows more powerful, I don't know. Chandler was great here, though, as he realised he had to make her understand that him running off had nothing to do with her and that he still loved her more than anything.

I did not see this one coming. I was sure there would be a little Bing running around in the near future when Phoebe found the pregnancy test, but now it turns out it's Rachel's test?!

If I have to point out two stars in this episode, it would have to be MP and JA. The two of them were brilliant, but as you say, they were all great.

I know. Who wouldn't be stressed in this kind of situation? He only had a couple of hours to make sure there would be a wedding, find the groom and secure his sister's happiness.

Yep. It was good, but not great.

Oh, definitely. I'm all for more fighting, just not between the newlyweds.

Could be. She seemed to be pretty convinced it was Monica's though.

Eh.. That's plain weird to think about.

I thought she looked beautiful! The hairdo, the flowers in her hair, and that beautiful gown. I thought you should be the one who gushed about her since you're a male... ;)

That's a possibility. I guess we're supposed to discard the obvious error.

Rachel, Joey and Monica. All of them have made their dreams come true.

And are supposedly getting back together now and planning to adopt a baby.

I didn't know she was his second wife, but I do know that their marriage is supposed to be the best in Hollywood.

I wasn't. It's called "vest" in Norwegian too, so... :)

I don't think so. Rachel had the ring and Monica's vows, and she held Monica's bouquet, so she had a more important part at the ceremony. When I went to an American wedding, there were four bridesmaids and one maid of honour, and all of them were dressed alike.

They were the golden girls... ;)

I cannot come up with a good reason why. Having said that, the hotel was more beautiful than the museum.

Nope. He certainly wasn't wearing the same vest.

There's always a room for ice machines in big hotels.

Yep, I knew. As for the other names, Stephanopoulos was because of the handsome neighbour who the girls were spying on in 104. When Rachel called Chandler "Assodofoulos" (I had no idea how they spelled it when I watched the finale), I reckoned it had something to do with him running away from his own wedding and his behaviour... Oh well, another dumb misunderstanding. :)

Chandler said Mazel Tov to Joey after he "had a baby" in 123, so it's just a way of saying congratulations.

Aww.. I was smiling from ear to ear when he pulled out that baby romper suit. Suddenly, I *knew* there would be a wedding, and that Chandler had become all "Chandler" again.

Perhaps it was another superstition? When you've worn it down the aisle, it's no longer new?

Not really.

They're his talking props, why should he care about them?! j/k

Hehe. Having swords in the trenches doesn't sound very practical.

I guess so.

Yep. What would happen if Joey brought him along to the wedding, and he "insulted" a devastated bridesmaid at the reception?

I thought the one in 717 was absolutely gorgeous, but this one was beautiful too. It was more classic and plain, but to tell you the truth, I'm not sure.

Ah, let's see. Her engagement ring is old (it's from the 1920s), and her dress was new. I thought the pregnancy test could count as her something blue until it was revealed that it wasn't hers, so perhaps we can say it was Chandler's eyes? ;) (He only had eyes for her when she walked down the aisle.) Borrowed? Hmmm... Tricky one. She already had it in the beginning of the episode, so perhaps it could be that beautiful necklace of hers?

I wanted him to show up. His aunt and godfather were getting married, so he should have been in the front row!

I don't think so. People won't remember them from 113 ("Who were they??"), and most people will be too interested in the pregnancy cliffhanger to remember them.

I know! It would have been fun to have some Barry White music at the reception. However, I can tell you that Kathleen Turner's young daughter played one of the guests.

I know! His speech was so sweet! I was stunned by how short the wedding actually was, but as long as they're married for real, then I won't mind. Besides, it was so romantic...

So perhaps she *had* promised him a night with Rachel... And now we know that Rachel is considering a one night stand with him.

Absolutely! We had a big round of applause, and my cheeks hurt because I kept grinning from the moment "A Groovy Kind of Love" started to play and Chandler came walking down the aisle to the end of the ceremony... Sigh. So beautiful!!! *sniff* May I have a tissue, please? (Okay, so I gush about this episode...)

Yeah, but I won't quite believe it until I hear her say so herself. I don't know, something isn't right here. The writers have fooled us before..

Nope. I don't believe it is. I mean, there is a theoretical possibility, but I can't see it happening. That must have happened after 719 and before 723, and there wasn't any spark between the two during these few weeks.

I hope so! That would be so much fun!

If it's his, Monica will never forgive him, and we'll end up with a show that everybody hates. Both the R+R fans *and* the C+M fans would be furious!

Ugh, don't even say it. Perhaps they wanted to keep the option open in case his new show bombs. But Mini-Tags? Ewww....

Yep, you're right. It all boils down to this. I believe it can be any of the three girls. I mean, Phoebe looks rather unlikely, but you said it yourself that the most unlikely suspect could be the one. She has a boyfriend now, Jake, and she could have set the whole thing up.

Rachel is the most obvious choice, of course (the tissues she used when she blew her nose, she was very emotional (even more than usual), the "ONS" with Joey, she was *very* careful when she "fell down", and the look on her face in the end).

Monica could also have a bun in the oven. If you check out their glasses at the rehearsal dinner, Monica is not drinking the same drink as the others. Could this mean that she was suspecting something and didn't want to drink any alcohol? It would be terrible if we found out that the first thing she did as Mrs Bing was to lie to her husband, but in all fairness, she had just found out that he had run off the day before their wedding. Perhaps she was afraid he would do it again.

I guess all I'm saying is that the writers can make anyone pregnant and get away with it. And another thing: I don't really believe we'll get to find out who the father is in 801 if it is indeed Rachel's baby. They will save that revelation for sweeps.

I don't think there are any spoilers about that season yet. And if there are, the only people who know about them are the three actresses on the show! So now we have a couple of months where we won't have to be "afraid" of any spoilers. :)

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Hmm.. I just thought of something.. of course, someone else probably thought of this first, so don't mind me. :)

But there is talk about the test being old, and turning positive, and that's why Rachel was so shocked.

What if that is what happened.. but to Monica? Maybe she took it, and it changed. Hence her saying she *isn't* pregnant.

Jaime

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On Sun, 24 Jun 2001, PanickedOz stated this considered view. Waking from my doze, I hastily scrawled -

There was a storyline in Ellen about a false positive pregnancy test - possibly 4th season.

Paige first thought that she was pregnant, then Audrey thought she was, then finally Ellen, though she hadn't had sex for months (and she was a lesbian, though she didn't realise that at the time). :)

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That's okay. :)

I think that's the most likely scenario should JA fail to conceive.

Well, Monica could have been evasive about a baby, but she specifically denied taking a pregnancy test. She *might* still be uncertain, or her doctor might have told her - but if the test in the trash was hers, she told a downright lie to her husband after being married for 31 seconds.

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Me too.

Noo, I don't mean a lie! I mean, she had taken the test, and it was negative-so she knew she wasn't pregnant. And then the test changed while in the garbage, and *that* would be why she was so certain in telling Chandler. See? No lie. :)

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Thanks.

But she said "I didn't take a pregnancy test."

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Before you get all excited, the girl who went to this taping said that when they filmed this scene, Jennifer Aniston actually asked the audience what would be funnier to say - Joey or Ross. The audience said Joey (because I guess Ross was more believable - hell, she almost did it in 701), and that's why she said Joey. And, in all honesty, could you really see Rachel sleeping with Joey? This is a comedy, not "Melrose Place."

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Actually the cliffhanger was not filmed in front of an audience, though.

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On 24 Jun 2001 15:06:55 GMT, [email] (Mike the Real American Hero) wrote:

Ross has changed *a lot* since 701. (Thank god!!) Rachel has matured a little since then too and finally realised that she wants to settle down soon. If you look at the hints they've been dropping throughout season 7, we've seen more hints about Joey & Rachel and Ross & Phoebe than anything else. Granted, Rachel and Ross considered a one night stand in 701, and Joey and Phoebe kissed (in a flashback from 1998) in 714, but the subtle hints have been different.

All I'm saying is that out of the two single male friends, I think Joey is a more likely father-to-be than Ross. Rachel and Joey have had an amazing chemistry this past year, and they're great friends now. I don't think we can count out any possibilities regarding the father of Rachel's baby before we find out for ourselves, and if the father is one of the three male friends, my money is on Joey. Either the normal way or the "sperm-bank" way.

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I'd just like to say that I agree 100% with that.

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On Mon, 25 Jun 2001 14:17:55 BST, Tennant Stuart wrote:

Thanks, Tennant. :)

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VSG (that's another acronym Mardi won't get unless we tell her) <g>

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Very sly grin?

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Nope. It actually means "you're welcome". <g>

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Are you using Norwegian acronyms with Marita?

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Well done, here's a short guide...

AJ - � Ja (oh yes) ASILDGD - � Ska Itj La De' Gj�r De' (I won't let it) HGMK - Han Gj�r Meg Kvalm (he makes me sick) JHx - Jeg Hater xxxxx (I hate xxxxx) RPGOL - Ruller P� Gulvet Og Ler (rolls on the floor and laughs) PGOF - Pr�ver Gj�r Oss Flinkere (tests make us better learners) S - Smil (grin) SB - Sv�rt Bra (very good) TT - Tusen Takk (thankyou very much) VSG - V�r S� God (you're welcome)

We also have some in French & Turkish if you're interested. :)

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Ah, well TT for that! I figured RPGOL must be something like ROTFL, but my problem was trying to fit in English words!

I've saved the list for further reference. ;)

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On Wed, 27 Jun 2001 21:55:53 BST, Tennant Stuart wrote:

This has been used to describe Tag numerous times. :)

It looks weird to put "smil" and "grin" next to each other like that, but that's just because the Norwegian word "grin" means "grimace" or "sneer"...

RPGOL!!! Sv�rt bra, Tennant! You know, if you start watching all the episodes with Norwegian subtitles, you'd be an expert by the end of the show. :)

Meanwhile, I only have DFY...

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AJ, JHT too.

That's why we use "Smil". <S>

TT

PGOF

Errr... "Delights For You" ?

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Jeg ogs�. (Me too.)

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VSG.

Lol!

Dinna fash yersen... ;)

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Oh Wow! You got me!!!!! lol

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Yep, we are. VSG means "v�r s� god", which again means "you're welcome" in Norwegian. :)

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I think we can rule out the sperm bank - Rach didn't look to pleased about being knocked up.

And if our only male friend choice is Joey, then I'm gonna have to say it's Tag's or some guy that we'll never see. Thus, Ross will step in because he's been through the baby stuff before, and they'll fall magically in love again. I doubt the writers would waste all their time writing stuff for R&R if they decided to pair R&J up in the end.

That hinting with R&J is like the hinting with any other character. Is Chandler gay? No. Are Joey and Ross gay together? No. Is Rachel gay? No. Is Phoebe gay? No. Did Monica leave Chandler for Joey? No. It's there for a joke. At least that's how I look at it.

"It's true! It's true!"--Kurt Angle, the *other* Real American Hero Life sucks, but you *can* do something about it.

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What if she found out that Joey was the donor *after* being inseminated?

Ah, hope springs eternal in the breast of every true R&R fan! j/k

The writers have "been there done that" with the whole R&R thing. They broke up the couple because they were rather more interesting apart.

They hinted that Chandler & Monica would get together for four years, and for the first three of those years nobody would believe me.

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Like she wouldn't notice the "Knicks rule!" quote? Please.

Yeah, and as the eighth season is the show's final (yes, Tennant, sorry, but it's true), in order for the show's first four years and much of the rest to fully make sense, R&R have to have some kind of closure. And they have yet to have any - they're still tugged at when the writers need a good sweeps stunt.

Chandler and Monica's relationship wouldn't have crushed another one of their friends as Rachel and Joey's would. Can you really see Ross and Joey and Ross and Rachel still being friends if this happened?

"It's true! It's true!"--Kurt Angle, the *other* Real American Hero Life sucks, but you *can* do something about it.

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That's the whole point. After that he changed it.

Prove it.

What you mean is NBC show some misleading promos; and after seeing the show, you poor R&R fans are pulling your hair out, because the couple did not get back together again after all.

After a while, yes.

The period of adjustment gives the writers something to write about.

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No, because *they* thought that.

The continuing presence of masses of R&R fans give the lie to that though!

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Guess which group decides what happens in the show...

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On Wed, 27 Jun 2001, Tennant Stuart stated this considered view. Waking from my doze, I hastily scrawled -

Guess who'd matter if all R&R fans boycotted the show!

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Friends is still the #1 sitcom in America, it survived Survivor, it's selling very well all over the world, and it's picking up awards. The producers & writers doubtless attribute this to the episodes they have been making, and not to the fans of the couple they broke up 3� years ago. Don't forget that the number of fans is tiny compared with the size of the whole audience (about 100 million world wide).

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On Thu, 28 Jun 2001, Tennant Stuart stated this considered view. Waking from my doze, I hastily scrawled -

Actually, it is more like 4.25 years ago - if your starting point is TOW the Morning After.

But you don't know how many of those 100m are R&R fans - for all you know, 75% might be.

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Oops yes, you're right. Thanks.

Doesn't matter. The producers & writers don't see it like that.

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I agree. Nothing is impossible at this point.

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It's up to real life now, and what the writers make of it.

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On 25 Jun 2001 13:20:15 GMT, [email] (Mike the Real American Hero) wrote:

She looked pretty desperate in 714.

I also think that R+R will get together in the end, but I think R+J dealing with a baby would be hilarious for a while.

I don't agree. There have been hints in almost every episode of season 7 of Rachel and Joey or Ross and Phoebe hooking up, so I wouldn't be surprised if they ended up with one of these two couples in the end.

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That's very interesting. I haven't seen a filming report for the finale, (although there are thousands of posts on ATF that I've not seen yet), so can you please tell me where you read this?

Yes.

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No way did Chandler mistake him for Joey--he was just startled not to find Joey there when that was what he was expecting. The priest was too much bigger, taller, and older than Joey for even the most bewildered Chandler to make that mistake. "Are you Joey?" here was more like "Why aren't you Joey?" and "Where on earth is Joey?" But Chandler was mirroring the priest's question.

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On Sun, 24 Jun 2001 15:56:56 GMT, "Mardi" wrote:

Yes, you're right, but my point was that Rachel, Phoebe or Ross must have told him that Joey was not going to be there, and they had found another minister, who was Greek Orthodox. This probably happened after Ross and Phoebe found him in the hall (and when Phoebe told him how she had discovered that Monica was preggers), but that doesn't explain why he said "are you Joey?" which indeed sounded like "who the hell are you?". He looked too confused to be his usual sarcastic self IMO. It just doesn't make sense.

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It probably will make sense when we see the uncut version on DVD.

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Let's hope so. :)

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The DVD of the finale is due out in September, so that could be before S8-01 airs. What if it contains a restored scene revealing the father?

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I doubt it. This cliffhanger was too good to ruin by giving away more hints about who the father (or the mother) might be.

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Yeah - but what if?

A cut scene like that would not be canon, but we couldn't ignore it...

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I guess it's difficult to imagine because I thought the finale we got was so brilliant. :)

Of course not. But would it work as well as the others?

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Oh me too, but who knows how many endings they filmed after the studio audience had gone.

I dunno. I guess we ought to wait until we see the actual DVD. :)

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I've seen the DVDs with Season 4 and 5. But they don't contain any cut scenes. Just london shooting and interviews and the theme song. Am I missing something. Are there dvds out there with cut scenes ???? cos I was disappointed that they didn't have cut or blooper scenes in dvds I got. Please fill me in. Thanks.

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In the first 6 seasons, the only uncut episode is the pilot. All the others are in the American box set, and Season 7.

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The real ending was filmed without a studio audience present.

I can't wait! I'm so going to use that zoom on my DVD-player for some of the scenes to find out more details about the wedding!

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That's right, but how many more endings were there? Did they go on to film alternative openings to S8, while they had the set & guest stars?

Ooh, such as what?

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That's what I'm wondering about! I can't wait until I finally find out on September 27th!

The ceremony itself, the wedding rings, her wedding dress, the rehearsal dinner (what was Monica drinking?), more hints about who the mother or the father might be, etc.

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Oooh - S8-01 airs on September 20th.

I'm agog - tell me what you find out.

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Really? Are you sure? Because [address] announced that the premiere would air on September 27th.

That box set cannot be released soon enough IMO.

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I'm going by what friends in America tell me. The Fall season begins on the 17th, and that means "Friends" begins the following Thursday.

The last two DVDs are due on September 10th, so it shouldn't be long.

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On Thu, 19 Jul 2001 15:52:28 BST, Tennant Stuart wrote:

Well, I'm not complaining. The sooner the better. However, I think I will stick to what [address] says (no offence), because they're usually right about these things. And if they're wrong, I'll get a nice surprise. :)

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Very sensible, and we'll know for sure in good time.

Also, I hear that filming begins on August 10th, so that's when I shall be battening down the hatches... :(

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On Sun, 22 Jul 2001 12:23:57 BST, Tennant Stuart wrote:

Oh, that's right! Better start preparing for the spoilers again.. But last season wasn't so bad. We didn't have many spoilers at all here on ATF, so I think we'll be fine.

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I can't take that chance, when the answer to one simple question hangs in the balance. Incidentally, I now know the first nine filming dates; they are August 10/17/24, September 7/14/21, and October 5/12/19.

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When will the rest of the schedule be up?

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No idea, I'm afraid.

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I KNOWWWWW!!!!

I checked the episode against Jean Liew's transcript, and found that we had two *extra* lines of dialogue - Rachel's first line, and a man saying "I can do this" - so I went to Eric Aasen's site to download his version, and found that his transcript included those two lines.

So, everything matches, nothing was cut, but how was it possible? Did the version on NBC run short? Was our version time-sliced? Or was it that two-parters like 615/6 need not have been shortened when their halves were separated?

Yay! That is so great to hear, for I loved this one too. :)

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Oh, that's so great! You were totally where the writers wanted you to be, which is why you *loved* it so. On the other hand, because I saw the first part separately, and I had only just watched "Fight Club" & "The Sixth Sense", I was alerted to the nuances of JA's performance at the end of the first part. Perceiving the duality of Rachel's reaction, I realised that just maybe Phoebe had misinterpreted the evidence, and therefore I half-expected the ending. As a sad consequence I merely loved this episode, without your emphasis.

Yes indeed, though I saw those hints on the first time. You're lucky. :)

I know - for all that the first season was about Ross pining for Rachel, the first woman he snogged on the show was Chandler's mother (followed by his ex-wife). Maybe next year we'll get "TOW the Three Mrs.Bings".

She was - when Phoebe puts her mind to it, she can be rock-hard logical, albeit with a sideways slant, an ideal combination when obvious lines of investigation have been exhausted - and we saw how well she complements Ross. You're right about Rachel, (by the end of the finale we knew why she was like that), but I think you've been a little hard on Joey, for making movies is his career & his dream, not just an interest.

I knoww!! The foreshadowing is as strong as ever.

That's right. Ross is a real brick when he gets the chance, and here he confounded Chandler's fears directly from their source. The only thing that worries me is that this was such a clever way to proceed that Ross might have lied - and it would be fun if it were true.

I know, there are some splendid "nick of time" moments in the finale, and for me this was the best. It was very funny to see Monica freak at the excuse, quickly quashed, yet it left one cognisant of how she would have reacted to the dreadful truth, without spoiling the comedic flow.

It was, it was!! :)

Well, it was Phoebe's revelation that made everyone gasp - but as you say, at that moment we simply did not know how Chandler would react to this latest piece of news. If it had made him break his promise to Ross, then Monica would have been desolate. The plot hung by a thread...

Yes, this was so lovely - and structurally it was very clever to break the tension with these moments of light relief.

Marita, sweetheart, never worry about being a sentimentalist, it shows that your heart is in touch with your soul.

Yes, this was another of those times where Chandler is so adorable that even we guys can see it - and if you think about it, we owe it all to little baby girl Chandler in 605 "TOW Joey's Porsche".

There might well be a cut line where Rachel filled him in, but for now we can assume that the priest simply looked Greek Orthodox, especially with a name like Father Karabetsus, and that any other possibility would be even more peculiar. Chandler was just checking that it was not Joey in disguise, after all the guy is an actor.

That's very interesting, since although I liked this story, I preferred the first one. But I can't accuse you of being in a different mood for the second one, since you watched both parts at a single sitting.

Yes, I was delighted to hear the full-blooded English English word with its ripe vowel, rather than the flat American English "ass". I must add it to my imaginary list of British words heard on US sitcoms.

That's a very difficult question to answer, unless it turns out that Joey is the father...

I guess so, although to be honest it didn't strike me like that at the time. Here is how often each character has said the word "love" throughout all seven seasons...

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..which might, or might not, surprise you.

Well, I reckon you have explained it neatly right there. :)

Yes, Monica was getting ready for fight or flight, and it was up to him to convince her that he was worthy of her just-spoken vow.

In all seriousness, I am so happy for you that you fell for the plot - whereas I was holding two possibilities in mind, and merely had one of them confirmed.

How exactly did you feel at the moment when Monica queried his mention of a baby, and then specifically denied that she had taken a pregnancy test?

Ahah - we agree. :)

For my money the finest bit of acting came in the last five seconds, when Jennifer Aniston did *not* look worried - she looked like a woman who was trying not to look worried.

For the whole 44 minutes, the prize was effortlessly carried away by Matthew Perry, for the main plot rested on his shoulders. Thankfully he was back on form after his travails.

But yes, once again this was a superb ensemble effort. This *should* answer those cynics who claimed that now the cast are so well-paid, they merely phone in their performances.

Yuppity. Who said it was easy to be Best Man?

Back in 1998, Joey lost the ring - here, Ross lost the groom. :)

Oh, the way I look at it, two of the best episodes ever were 412 "TOW the Embryos" and 514 "TOW Everyone Finds Out", and yet their singleton stories were an irksome distraction from the glorious antics of the other five. But in the finale, "TOW Enunciation" and "TOW Two Belts" complemented the main story, while fulfilling the main function of allowing events to proceed while we were away.

Exactly, that's why I do not share some fans' concerns that Rachel stole the limelight at the end - I wanted the couple to finish as boringly happy as possible.

But of course this was the Phoebe who baked the best oatmeal raisin cookies in the world to convince her friend that she always told the truth, now totally unsuspecting Rachel's bare-faced lie.

Yup - but as a bloke, I'd rather kiss Chandler's dad than Chandler! ;)

Weeeeeel sweetheart, you've heard me say this before. Rachel just does not look as good with her hair pinned back like that. She doesn't have the bone structure or the neck for it, while Phoebe can carry it off beautifully. Remember 718 "TOW Joey's Award", where I wanted to cut Rachel's head off that bathrobe, and plonk it onto the red dress? Or http://www.eonline.com/Features/Awards/Emmys2000/Gallery/index.html where her actress dressed almost exactly as I was asking for?

Think of it as a changed premise. The show is written & rewritten right up to the filming, so by the time they decided that the best place for Chandler to hide was his office, the writers were caught out by having mentioned the actual date months before. So what should they do? Anally stick to an obscure reference that only we obsessed fans would notice, or deliberately place a new reference in the first half of the finale, and get on with it? Sadly, the fact that a script can become snagged by casual details in past episodes is one reason why they give us so little background information unless it's needed for a good story.

That's a very intelligent answer. Thankyou.

You qualify your reply with "supposedly", how sure are you?

My information comes from my private copy of the IMDb, last downloaded on May 12th, so I could be a few weeks out of date. However, Alec & Kim already have a child, their daughter Ireland, born October 1995. Could your information be about one of the other three Baldwin brothers?

Yep - which would be good news if Monica was previously married... ;)

Oh, how Americanised you Norwegians are... j/k

Yes okay, I'll go with that.

Lol!!

Since writing that, I realised that one good reason would be Monica having to make a drastic cut in her budget.

Ah.

All the hotels I've stayed at had mini-fridges in each room.

Yeah, I'm kicking myself for not spotting that.

Did you like the way "Anastassakis" rolled off her tongue?

Well, now we know it's "Acidopholus", your benign intestinal flora.

Kudos awaits anyone who can explain Papasifakis...

Lol yes, well done! I'd forgotten that. :)

Absolutely, sweetie - me too. :)

Err, no darlin', I crapped up. Chandler started to chatter, asking Monica if her dress was new, and she said "not now" to shut him up, either because it was inappropriate to the occasion, or because she was embarrassed to be wearing a hired dress.

For some reason I got it into my head that her inflection clearly indicated that the dress was not new now, but as the gang lapped up the finale on Saturday night, I suddenly heard her differently...

It's annoying, isn't it, when this happens?

Ooooohhhh.... lol

But what if they were on horseback?

Yeah.

Well done. :)

RPGOL!!!!

Who would she go to for comfort, and who would she end up with? What if she thought she was pregnant, but wasn't, and then became pregnant?

When Joey tells the dearly beloved that they won't be confused by Memorial Day 2002, (an American holiday at the end of May), is that when his movie comes out, and if so will it change his life?

I like the idea that the final dress was less than perfect, not just because it showed that Monica really stuck to her budget, but because it exemplifies the unselfish sacrifice she made.

Doesn't the bride have to wear the four somethings, so his eyes would not count? But *hers* would!

I like that about the 1920s engagement ring, so how about her wedding ring? Could it be the ring that her grandmother wore as she first came to America, when that ring & the clothes on her back were all she had with her, which has been in her family for generations, and every bride who has worn it has had a long & happy life?

Ooh, I don't know about the necklace, but if the wedding dress was hired then that would be the something borrowed, leaving us to find the something new...

Doubtless we'll later be told that he & his mother were there.

Well, I agree that if they don't turn up then there's no error, they would just be late or no-shows, but I always felt that the Joey/Monica story was a bit pointless, so it would be nice to have a fruition.

Oh yes? How do you know? Which one was she?

Kathleen's only child is Rachel Ann Weiss, but I don't know what age she is. However, if born in wedlock she'd be 18 years old or less.

Yes, it certainly was, but it was also great fun watching Monica almost pop her clogs every time another revelation came up. I loved the way she ended her vows with a challenge to Chandler to confound her fears.

We sure do sweetie, it all fits...

Awww, it was, wasn't it!

Did you by any chance recognise the other Beatles tunes in the medley?

Here you go <passes her a tissue> and it didn't come from the trash...

You gush away sweetheart, it's your right & your privilege to do so. :)

Absolutely. I didn't say she was pregnant, but that it was *meant* to be her that was pregnant. Although it all depends on what happens to the actresses, there are only 7 combinations, so you can be sure the writers are even now beavering away on a storyline for each one, and their brief is to avoid being predictable.

Unless you can believe that they made out in the back of a Porsche, after he had betrayed her to the cops...

Yay, me too - but do you take my hint that Joey still doesn't know?

We were debating a Rachel pregnancy many months ago, and it was my theory that it would have to happen at a drunken party, and therefore it would have to be Chandler with his proven track record.

We were discussing this last night, and on the subject of this option, I was suddenly minded of Paolo. He & Rachel were together for a couple of months before she dumped him. But later, when she ran into emotional difficulties, she invited him back into her bed - and we were not shown anything of their reunion until afterwards...

Maybe Phoebe is off somewhere with Jake, and we've been watching Ursula.

Yep - and Rachel catching Joey with her knickers was deleted from S7-22.

Isn't she? <checks> Gosh, yes! Wow, EE Marita strikes again! Yes, Monica has an amber drink, the others are clear with a slice of green fruit.

If you look at the dialogue, Monica did not specifically deny that she was pregnant. When Chandler said he knew about the baby, it was valid for her to ask which baby he meant. When he said it was their baby, her reply was most misleading, and certainly evasive, but even so to ask if they have a baby is not the same as saying that they do not have a baby. And then her final statement that she didn't take a pregnancy test could be absolutely true, if the one in the trash was not hers.

I quite agree, let's hope it's the November sweeps, not February, else the speculation will drive us mad! But as to who is pregnant we only have to wait for an official announcement. Or two. Or three.

Yay!!!

I'm so glad you loved this episode, Marita - probably even more than I did. And thankyou so much for such an entertaining & informative reply.

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I see.

My double version was about 43-44 minutes long.

I knew it! And I know I wouldn't have been as excited as I was if it hadn't been for the lack of spoilers...

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I knew that as long as a beautiful wedding would take place by the end of the episode, I would love it. However, I didn't expect to be so surprised and enjoy the four others just as much as the happy couple.

I know. I thought she was just being very concerned about her friend, and I was so glad both Phoebe, Ross and Rachel were doing the best they could to get the wedding back on track.

Gosh... Let's end season eight with a bang, and have another Geller-Bing wedding...

Yes, it was his career, but I don't think he would have been better at finding Chandler than Phoebe was.

Yep, even though no one else believes us...

I'd be willing to take almost anything as long as Chandler's parents return. They were so hilarious, and yet they weren't a big part of the finale. I can't really see Ross hooking up with Chandler's dad (perhaps he's still seeing Mr Garibaldi), but Ross could hook up with Chandler's mom - again...

Yep, it was all building up to either a heartbreaking climax or a lovely, romantic wedding. Monica's reaction was hardly surprising, and I think it was for the best that she didn't have Chandler losing an item of clothing on her list. It would have made her prepared for it, and that hadn't been as funny to watch.

Seems like very few people believe that, though.

In the beginning, when he popped his head out the door, it wasn't that bad. But then he started looking terrified and shocked, and ended up with the cigarette hanging from his lip. Something was wrong...

I agree. Especially the parents' conversations..

Grin. Thanks.

Awww... What if baby girl Chandler had been a boy? Would they have bonded as easily as they did in 605?

I reckon he must have talked to Rachel or Phoebe to find out why there was a Greek priest standing there, and to Phoebe about the pregnancy test. If Rachel told him both, she would have to be an incredibly talented actress. (Rachel, not JA. JA was magnificent in this episode.)

Yes, I think of it as one story. It's rather hard not to.

Did you get a lot of entries for that list when Emily was around?

If Joey is indeed the father, I think it could give us tons of funny storylines in season 8. I'm not saying that I think Rachel and Joey will start dating or anything, but the two of them having a child, while still being just friends (if that scenario makes any sense), sounds hilarious. The kid could be the result of a wild night of partying or the sperm bank.. There are lots of issues they need to sort out: Joey dealing with parenthood, Rachel dealing with parenthood, the living arrangements, whether Rachel will let Yasmine and Dick babysit, how Monica will handle it, if Chandler will start feeling a certain pressure, Ross trying to cope with the idea of his ex-girlfriend having a baby with his friend, Phoebe realising Joey has been taken away from her etc...

Not surprising.

I always thought Chandler has said it more to her, than vice versa.

That's not a big surprise either. He rarely falls in love.

It surprised me, actually.

Guess so.

Take it or leave it, so to speak.

Awww... Poor you. I was stunned.

I was so sure she was the one, that the thought of it being Rachel's didn't even enter my mind. I knew there had to be some kind of cliffhanger, and I had already seen that they would reach the altar (due to the stupid commercial they showed in the middle of 722), so I expected him to run off as soon as Monica revealed to him that she was pregnant. But then he found out before the ceremony, and I was even more baffled. What was going to happen next? After the revelation in the hallway, I was so engrossed in the wedding ceremony that I think I forgot about the pregnancy test for a couple of minutes.

But when Chandler started talking about "any surprises that come our way" and Monica smiled with tears in her eyes (?), I started to think about it again. Awww... They're going to start a family right away.. Hey, what?!?! Rachel's pregnant? I think the first word I said was "H�H?!?!", which means "huh?" in Norwegian..

Good.

Yep, she was amazing. :)

I wouldn't say he was the star of 723, though. Mixing the old and the new sides of his character, Ross was great in the first half of the finale. Besides, Chandler disappeared, and was nowhere to be seen in the last half of 723.

It was great, and ten times better than last year's finale.

Perhaps that's why Joey wanted to be the minister... He was after all taught by bitter experience.

Chandler has probably had the easiest job of them all. All he had to do was to arrange a bachelor party in the basement of the Pizza Hut and call a stripper.

True. I always push ffwd when Ross starts hanging out with UNG.

Me too. I never thought they would break up in this episode, but there was always that possibility of wedding jitters which would mean no wedding at all. As a result of that, I had a big smile on my face when Joey pronounced them husband and wife.

I still think it *might* be Phoebe's pregnancy test. She's sly enough to come up with a scheme like this.

That's fine by me, as long as I get Chandler. ;)

I know, but I've always thought she looked nice with her hair up. Phoebe looks great too, but her hair is often so spiky (as it was here), that it is not as sophisticated as Rachel's beautiful French twist.

I think that maybe it was all planned. Think of it this way; Some brides want to wear their hair down on their wedding day. (It looks more natural, and you're not supposed to wear lots of jewellery or make-up on your big day either.) Monica did this, and she pulled it off beautifully. Perhaps they wanted to show the difference between the bride and her bridesmaids, by giving Monica the natural, "innocent" look, while her bridesmaids were more dolled up. Don't get me wrong, Monica was the woman they were staring at... Eh... Do you understand what I mean?

I guess so. Not to mention the fact that 717 was filmed in December (?).

I'm not sure at all, but that's what [address] announced last week.

Nope, the article was about Alec and Kim.

But Monica and Chandler don't live in Hollywood... ;)

We are, to a certain extent... n/k

Ross was mesmerized...

Could be.

But did you get the ice from the fridge, though?

It sounds very Greek indeed... Straight from Zorba or something.

It should have been on ER, not Friends... ;)

I thought she was just joking about the dress to make him shut up.

Yep. :)

I've never heard of swords being used in WW1.

I knowww! The possibilities are endless... She might even end up giving birth to a Richard Crosby Jr, who will speak perfectly when he is three months old.

The big break comes three years after it was supposed to?

Absolutely. Looking at some of the posts I wrote right after the finale, I was leaning towards the one from 717 back then as well. It was indeed more elegant.

Lol, good point.

It could be, if Emily gave it back after the wedding. However, I would rather have Chandler pick one out for her and vice versa, so that the rings were more personal.

The veil, perhaps?

BOC.

I guess the biggest problem for the writers was to come up with something they could do.

Kathleen Turner said it in an article at TVguide.com. Her daughter, Rachel Ann, was recruited to appear in a scene. She's 13 years old and a huge fan of the show, so she was really excited to play a part on the show. The article does not say who she is, though.

"Take me or leave me", so to speak.

Monica walked down the aisle with "My Love" by Paul McCartney playing in the background, while they played "Everlong" by the Foo Fighters in the end. Were there any other songs?

Thank god! :)

Fortunately, I'm not the only one who thinks this episode is a classic. :)

Yep, I agree. It can be any of the three women.

I thought about that possibility, but I doubt it. Rachel must have been pretty hammered to find Mental Geller attractive anyway.

Yes, and I believe he doesn't have a clue about the pregnancy yet, regardless of whose baby it is.

Theoretically, Chandler is capable of seducing hammered girls, but I cross my fingers and hope that he has never cheated on Monica.

Fortunately, she didn't run back into his arms after dumping Ross in 316 and in 502 when she realised that she and Ross couldn't be together when he was still married to Emily. And there was no Paolo in 715, so I don't think we'll see him again.

If that's the case, then I hope Jake has a normal twin brother who won't be scary every time he smiles.

Yep.

Yep, so she could have known something was up the day before the wedding...

No, that's true.

Yep, I believe there will be a big ratings winner in November called "TOW The Big Announcement" or something like that.

Yes, and it's rather strange that I was more surprised by the ending than you were, considering that I had actually overheard a few spoilers before I watched it. :)

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Yep - Jean Liew is much quicker (her transcript can be up the next day instead of a few weeks later) but Eric Aasen is more accurate.

Can you accurately time the teaser & the four acts?

Spoilers definitely reduce one's enjoyment, no matter what people say.

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Yes, a truly great conclusion to a lovely season that we would not have had if the "Stop Friends Now" brigade had their way a year ago.

Awww... you were *so* swept along! :)

CHANDLER: Now what I'm going to say to you, I'm not saying as your
          friend. Okay? I'm-I'm saying it as Nora's only son.
ROSS: But you're still my friend?
CHANDLER: Not for the next few minutes.
ROSS: During this time- are you, are you still my best man?
CHANDLER: Nope.
ROSS: Do I still call you Chandler?
CHANDLER: Okay! You guys are getting married tomorrow and-and I could
          not be more thrilled for both of you, but as Nora's son I-I
          have to tell you this. If you ever hurt my mother, if you
          ever cause her any unhappiness of any kind, I will hunt you
          down, and kick your ass! (Ross laughs.) What? I'm-I'm-I'm
          serious! (Ross laughs harder.) Come- Hey! Dude! Stop it!
          Okay? I'm-I'm not kidding here!
ROSS: (smiling) Hey, I hear what you're saying, okay? And, thanks for
      the warning.
CHANDLER: No problem.
ROSS: So are we- friends again?
CHANDLER: Yeah.
ROSS: Okay. (Pause) You won't believe what Nora's son just said to me!

AJ - I already agreed that Phoebe was the best choice.

Well, for now we'll just have to be content with being smug together. :)

Well, Mr.Garibaldi is still in the show...

I KNOW!

Absolutely. It was all very well done - a lovely romantic wedding, ending with a tingle in the spine that just hints at heartbreak to follow...

Well, even quite ardent R&R fans are allowing that the baby may not be Ross's, and they are pinning their hopes on him marrying Rachel to give the child a father. It's certainly a possibility that she is pregnant but we do not learn who the real father is for a long time. However, as you say, the foreshadowing hints at a Joey & Rachel story to come...

In some ways it's a shame that Ross can't form an Abbott-style couple with Phoebe *and* Rachel - they made such a lovely trio walking down the aisle arm-in-arm.

Yeah.

Yes, poor Jack thinking his boy was playing hide-and-seek. Ooh, there's a thought, I wonder if Phoebe felt left out of the game?

VSG

I don't know. She certainly resembled her namesake.

The pair probably told him together, but since Phoebe found the test and Rachel found the priest, the explanations would divide up naturally.

If you look carefully, you'll see a beginning-middle-end to the story in S7-23, and then another beginning-middle-end to the story in S7-24.

Oh yes, in her first minute she said "flat" and "bum".

That makes a great deal of sense. R&R were very good at unrequited love while it lasted, but boring as a settled couple. C&M went from good friends to lovers in one fell swoop. Here would be a totally new situation, two people who are not a couple, not in an intimate relationship, yet with something very strong in common. It would also resonate with their 'relaxed' lifestyles in high school...

RPGOL!

Exactly, a long story that involves the whole group, yet does not centre around C&M any more (they've had long enough), which is full of possibilities for new plot-lines, exactly what the writers need.

As for how it happened, I don't buy the sperm bank idea, my money is on a drunken fling, since this was set up for us in the Melissa story, see? By the end of the finale, Joey was the only one who had not been told about the pregnancy test, which could be very significant.

Oh, I though that Monica would be top.

Don't forget this is "love", not "I love you".

And when he does, he gets hurt. Which has just reminded me of Erin, and how Rachel took him to her bosom because he mentioned having kids...

There you go. I presented an exhaustive analysis of "I love you" in the S7-16 thread (April 11th at 4:36) which I can repost if you like, but the current score is Chandler 13 Monica 16 (excluding clips).

Yep.

No, it was a challenge. Monica had just been rocked back on her heels (remember how she reacted to a vest getting lost) but at this critical moment, that she had waited for her entire life, she was exercising enormous restraint by concentrating on what she had to do - make her vows. Now was the time for Chandler to prove himself, and he did.

Well, that's what comes of having time to think at the halfway stage, instead of being swept along - but then I had 3 extra cliffhangers.

What then? Did you reel?? Did you think that Monica was lying???

Lol, "H�H" makes a pretty pattern...

Yep.

Emmy material?

Okay, I'll go with that.

Ooh, I *loved* last year's finale, since I totally fell for the plot...

Yep.

Ah yes, but he wasn't living in a sitcom at the time.

There you go, then.

Or that they would get to the church, to find Joey & Phoebe marrying.

Twice.

Yes, but she wouldn't have acted the way she did afterwards.

Don't forget that any of them can be pregnant without knowing just yet, or they do know but that wasn't their test in the trash.

Deal.

Phoebe had the same style as at Monica's 30th, and she looked great, but the French twist looks like something you'd clean house in.

Yes indeed, I agree.

Could be, but anyway the production order was...

717 - 713 - 715 - 716 - 718 - 720 - 722 - 719 - 723

..so there were 7 episodes in between instead of only 5.

They get stuff wrong, don't they?

Well, why are they adopting if they can have children?

Don't blame me, it's Chandler's metaphor, not mine. :)

Yes (said he, refraining from a "yep").

Exactly! He could have a fantasy about Rachel, Phoebe & Nora as the golden girls, and then his mom comes in again, with Chandler's dad!

What with that & a hired dress, she's been very economical without the script making much of a fuss about it. She really wants those 4 babies.

Yeah.

Yes, almost as magical as White Plains.

Ah, but in ER the priest would think Rachel Greene was trying to infect him, shoot her, and then the doctor would misdiagnose it.

No, she was just 'advising' him to shut up.

Well, they still had cavalry back then.

While spitting on anyone who leans into the crib?

Yep.

That was the point, but it was too subtle. Maybe we'll see more on the DVDs in September. BTW, as I predicted (against cynics who told me I was wrong) 709-716 will be out on DVD on July 9th, all with extended versions of the episodes on the other side of the disc.

TT

She should have done, shouldn't she?

Well first of all, remember that they were on budget - and second of all, given its history that ring was already very personal.

Yes - or the garter...

Yes indeed.

Hmmm... I'm just thinking that we may not see the reception. Some fans have already speculated that S8 could begin months later, but this was dismissed on the grounds that the cliffhanger could not be left in the air, or forgotten about. But the show could begin in the vestry where all this is thrashed out, and then leap forward in time. Nei?

Ah. Quite often when guest stars talk about their appearance on the show, they remark how much it has elevated their credibility with their kids.

That's right, she was very courageous.

I'm not sure, but thanks for that.

Oh, it was very very good. :)

Or any pair of the women. Or even all three.

It could also be none of them, but that wouldn't require an 8th storyline.

That's what it took two years ago.

That's right, and that could be the most important hint for Season 8.

If he was not of sound mind at the time, it wouldn't be cheating. I'm beginning to think that S7-20 was foreshadowing, and it will turn out they all got very drunk, so now all Rachel knows is that the father is one of the three guys. She refuses to take a test to find out because she's afraid of the possibility that it might be Chandler.

Neither do I, but I wasn't thinking about Paolo.

Who has Rachel most recently broken up with?

If you like, but that wasn't my point.

Maybe Phoebe got pregnant, and couldn't face the others, so Ursula took over for her, for they've been bonding ever since turning 31, but they never told anyone. Maybe you'd like to guess in which episodes out of Seasons 5/6/7 were really Ursula masquerading as Phoebe...

We may see more of that in an explanatory flashback in S8-01...

Hence the list she was writing...

See? All doors are ajar, even if not wide open.

How about "TOW the Blood Test"?

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She also got rather drunk in 104 "TOW George Stephanopoulos", but my favourite is 207 "TOW Ross Finds Out" where she dumps a stranger's cell phone in the ice bucket!

She also got rather drunk in 104 "TOW George Stephanopoulos", and even more drunk in 121 "TOW the Fake Monica" (how could you forget her classic declaration "Water rules!"), in 210 "TOW Russ" she could only stand Fun Bobby being sober by getting drunk herself, and then in 502 "TOW All the Kissing" she was all liquored up in the bath.

He was also very drunk in 413 "TOW Rachel's Crush" after breaking up with Kathy (he accused the steps of being steps).

She also got rather drunk in 104 "TOW George Stephanopoulos", and she was a bit drunk while performing at Central Perk in 405 "TOW Joey's New Girlfriend", and she drunkenly abused the guests at Steve's party in 515 "TOW the Girl Who Hits Joey".

Ross got so drunk in 111 "TOW Mrs.Bing" that he ended up snogging Chandler's mother, and he also was drunk at Monica's 30th birthday part in 714 "TOW They All Turn Thirty

He doesn't tend to get drunk like the others do, and his forte is looking after girls who get drunk (despite Rachel's opinion of him he has always been a perfect gentleman), but on the other hand the other five have not been drunk in charge of a vehicle (that includes Phoebe in 601 "TOA Vegas" as the drive home was another day) but in 703 TOW "Phoebe's Cookies" Joey was drunk while in charge of a sailing boat (which is a serious offence) since he imbibed 6� beers during his first lesson with Rachel.

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She didn't look drunk to me - just because she & Chandler were drinking champagne, doesn't mean they'd overindulged.

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I've noticed that as well.

I would if I could, but my computer is messed up for the umpteenth time at the moment...

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God forbid. I wouldn't want to be without some of the wonderful moments we've had in season 7.

I *so* was, and I guess the reason was that I had overheard some spoilers that revealed that "the bride was pregnant"...

RPGOL!!! Much better than that Greek play they did in 111. But wouldn't Ross be more afraid of his future stepson?

Okay. :)

Hehe, yep. And we'll be able to say "we told you so", when it happens... ;)

Yep. He could be one of Chandler's step-dads.

Grin. It would be weird, though.

Yep, if it is Rachel's baby, I think she'll have to fight her parents and other people's prejudices because of her status.

BTW, I think it's a tradition on the show that the bridesmaid has a traumatic experience before the wedding that ruins some of the day for her. However, in Monica's case, her heartbreak was turned into pure happiness. I just wonder if Rachel will be as lucky as Monica was.

Absolutely. However, if good old Ross dominates season 8, he'll be by her side when she gives birth, regardless of whether the child is his or not. It's just too obvious.

Lol! Poor kid if they raise him or her Abbott-style as well!

Grin. Could be.

Hehe.

That would be after they found Chandler of course.

And other British words on the show?

My thoughts exactly.

Yes, I thought that was rather odd, and it could definitely mean something.

I just thought of all the heartache Rachel went through with Ross..

Right.

Yep, the hints are there, and we cannot ignore them...

Yeah, I think I remember it. But he has said it more than her this season, right?

Okay..

True, but the one cliffhanger I got was so good that I don't mind at all. :)

Lol! We say that a lot, and it's not as polite as your "pardon", which is why we also have to learn different manners in English and German class at elementary school...

I was thinking Emmy the entire time when she was onscreen. She was brilliant.

I loved it at the time, but I think the fact that I had read every spoiler out there ruined it for me. Don't get me wrong, I was misty-eyed when he finally put the ring on her finger, but I think I would have been crying if I hadn't known it was coming. :)

When has he ever been outside a sitcom? :)

Hopefully, that will never happen.

BOC. And he managed to include "oh crap" as well.

What are you referring to?

Absolutely. It's all up to the three actresses on the show.

Oh, I beg to differ. The French twist is *very* sophisticated and beautiful, especially if you decorate your hair with jewels, clips or in Rachel's case, flowers. If you clean while having your hair up in a French twist, you'll undoubtedly have to stop after a while to put it up again. It's hard to put the hair up tightly enough so that it stays that way. If you run around cleaning, your hair will look like a total mess. That's why it's best to put your hair up in a pony tail or a simple bun while you're cleaning.

Yep.

Sure, but I'm just writing what they said. :)

To take care of kids who have problems already. Many people in Hollywood adopt even if they can have children.

Eww... Chandler has ruined Ross's life...

Yep. A boy should be on the way soon.

Grin.

Well, Rachel Greene would just call her dad, and everything would be fine again.

I see.

It's a possibility, I guess.

Yep. :)

Yes, Blackstar and all the others have big advertisements for them at the moment.

Well, yes, but we don't even know if they met in person after she ran away from Ross at Heathrow.

That's true, but I don't know if Chandler would be comfortable giving it to her.

You'll have to see if it's new if Chandler throws it in 801.

I think it could start with Chandler and Monica returning from their honeymoon. Monica has been wondering about whose test it is ever since she left New York, and Rachel has made everybody think it's Monica's test to prevent Monica from losing her thunder.

Yep, many stars have said that.

VSG. Beautiful songs, BTW.

It could actually be very funny if two of them turned out to be pregnant, e.g. Monica and Rachel. If Rachel was pregnant at the same time as Monica had a bun in the oven herself, the pregnancy stories wouldn't necessarily focus on Monica, but on Rachel. However, Monica would be so happy, that she wouldn't mind that the others were fussing over Rachel's pregnancy. As for the fans, it would give some of them a break from watching Chandler and Monica "play house" for nine months.

I think it will be great if they're going to include a pregnancy in season 8. It will give them a chance to prove they're capable of coming up with something funny for a pregnant woman, even if she is carrying her own baby...

That's my point. And Rachel looked sober to me when she was driving the Porsche.

Chandler was gone for most of the time, so I don't believe he's the father.

Don't - want - to - think - of - him. JHT!!!

Okay, that explains 716.

I think we'll have to wait until sweeps for that as well. It's too big to have in the premiere.

Yep.

Or TOW Rachel's Secret.

I didn't even have a commercial break to ponder on whose test it could be....

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Oh god, not again.

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I know. How can people wish for this, even now?

Ah, a strange case of spoilers helping, but I think that the main factor is that you saw both halves in one go, no time to think.

TT

Smil.

I don't think so. Why do you?

Yay! Fingers crossed...

One of Nora's other husbands? Could be, the way the Bings carried on.

The old Bings, that is.

Story possibilities...

This is it. On story grounds it *has* to be Rachel.

It goes to show that the writers will keep breaking the mould.

As for Rachel, I think we'll be surprised at how that goes.

Well, he is much better as her friend.

The kid will be fine as long as R&R don't waltz off leaving Phoebe to look after the baby, then a decade later she kills herself.

Of course.

I think so - I'll have to look for my imaginary list to see what else is on there.

Yay! :)
Yep...

S8 is going to be *so* exciting! :)

No, (don't confuse saying ILY with saying it to each other).

Ignoring clips in S7-21, the "I love you" scores for S7 were...

0 Rachel, aww... 1 Ross, but only about a photo. 1 Joey, to Chandler & Monica. 2 Phoebe, once to Ross, and once about Hexadrin. 4 Chandler, once to his parents, and three times to Monica. 9 Monica - once to the whole gang, once to Phoebe & Rachel, once to her father, and six times to Chandler.

Okay, except that you had a good surprise ending.

We both have the same final cliffhanger. :)

You didn't answer...

Weird...

I agree, although to be honest I wasn't thinking Emmy at the time, I was just lapping the whole thing up. Cat with the cream.

Oh, I *so* believed it when Joey told Chandler that she'd gone...

The first 25 years of his life, apart from a few flashbacks.

Me too, but that would have been the combination.

Actually, according to the transcript he said "aw crap", but if we allow that and "aww crap" as well, then the scores are...

2 Joey 1 Chandler 1 Monica 1 Rachel 0 Phoebe 0 Ross

..and every single instance was spoken in S7, none earlier.

The way Phoebe keeps talking about the pregnancy, whereas if it was really her she wouldn't mention it at every opportunity.

Reality bites...

Okay, but I still don't like it. Not on her.

Okay.

Ah, that's a good point, I hadn't thought of that. :)

The bastard!

That's the plan. But what is the script?

Or maybe it was the ruins of a chateau, with swords on the wall.

Do you have your order in?

Indeed not.

Why?

Pardon? Is this a Norwegian thing?

You could be right, but if so a lot of fans will feel cheated.

Could be, could be.

Well, at least they can't do any jokes about a brother's baby...

Yep. If it is R&R, then it's a complete DEM (or DXM if you prefer).

The foreshadowing was in S7-20, the party would be some other time.

He-he. What's the Norwegian for "me too"?

But I'm afraid that if Rachel repeats her past pattern of behaviour, then he is a likely candidate.

Oh, good call.

And it might have been Ursula in 701/718/722.

Oh yes, they could & should drag this out a bit...

And she never actually denied that she was pregnant.

Could be.

Indeed, while mine was ten thousand minutes long. :(

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I think its just another continuity error from the writers. Which is also why I think that even if Monica hadn't given up the wedding in ep. 720, she would have still worn a different dress on the wedding. I mean, they could have worked in a simple dialogue stating that the museum is out of their budget.

They have always started season premiers exactly where they had left off. So the next season shouldn't be any different.

Are we forgetting that Monica tends to get jealous rather quickly. Remember the time she wanted to prove that she and chandler were hotter than phoebe and the cop (i forgot his name). If she were preggers along with Rachel, she'd complain (atleast to chandler) if all the attention was on Rachel. All the others know Monica too well and would take care to keep her ego satisfied.

hey. nice work. I didn't notice that. i hope she is pregnant. I want to see a little baby bing.

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Yes, a throwaway line was needed for that - but it wasn't a continuity error, it was a changed premise.

Not in Season 3 they didn't.

Gary.

She only has to get jealous if she's written that way. What Marita is saying here is that a new situation in the next season gives the show a chance to shift focus away from Chandler & Monica.

Marita is red hot, isn't she? :)

And Monica didn't actually deny that she was pregnant...

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Maybe, but "a few days after" is not exactly where they left off.

The length of time is not important, the break in the narrative is.

There was no pickup such as Rachel meets Julie, Ross enters Rachel's room, Ross takes his bride, Joey & Phoebe arrive at the chapel, or Ross turns up as Monica shouts across the rooftops.

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aw crap. sorry guys. i clearly suck at this. outlook express isn't doing much to help me. I cannot see my post appear until a day or so after I post it. why is that???

I'll be more careful from now on. : (

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Okay, thanks Priya.

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They didn't do that in season 3, and I'm just thinking that if they cannot afford having all those gueststars in the premiere, it would be the easy way to go for them.

She could very well end up doing just that, but I was mostly thinking of the fans that are complaining that the show has focused too much on Chandler and Monica. I'm not complaining, though. :)

However, I think Monica has changed quite a bit since her "thunder being stolen" days in 701 (and let's not forget that Phoebe was the one who first mentioned "thunder" in 503 TO Hundredth). I think she would be very concerned about her friend, what with being pregnant without a boyfriend and all.

Me too! :)

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I noticed a few errors in her transcript of 723-724, but I always download Eric Aasen's version anyway, so I'm going to stick with his site for season 8.

I know.. But you should be able to check it yourself now. :)

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That's what puzzles me. It's also quite interesting that some critics claim that season 7 was far worse than season 6.

Yes. I had no commercial breaks at all, so I had to watch intently to keep track of what was going on. I only had to wait while I was downloading it..

Because I'm under the impression that Chandler is not that weak after all. Granted, Ross almost lifted him up in 319, but Chandler (or rather, MP) has come a long way since then. He's bigger, and if he ever joined a gym to fight Richard, I think Ross and Chandler could be quite interesting sparring partners...

I was thinking that he was Charles's husband, though. (They could have tied the knot in Europe or Hawaii.)

Hehe, yep!

And they would have quite an amazing thing in common: Their spouses left them for new lovers of the same sex...

Yep. And it also seems like JA is closest to motherhood of the three actresses as well. She and Brad even renewed their wedding vows in Milan a couple of days ago..

I agree. I think it will be a really interesting fall.. for many reasons.

I cannot really picture the two of them together now. I mean, I've just watched the old episodes where they were so blissfully happy together, and when I look at them now, it's very obvious that they've both changed immensely since they broke up. Rachel has probably changed the most, but Ross is a close second.

Therefore, I must say that I agree with you. If they're supposed to end up together in the end, they will need to change the both of them quite a lot in order to make me believe that Ross and Rachel will fall in love all over again.

Poor Phoebe... But she won't die until October 15th, 2032, so they still have time.

Smil.

I know!

It's her own fault. She started messing around with Tag, and he wasn't worthy of any ILYs..

Wow. That surprised me again.

Okay, okay...

Well, I didn't have time to ponder on the question. Everything happened so fast, and I was so happy...

Hehe. I know. It's 100% true though. I remember we always wondered why you Brits (and the Germans in particular) had to be so polite all the time. :)

I see. :)

You're lucky. I was sitting in front of my computer, waiting for the proposal the entire time since I knew it was coming.

Weeeeeell...

I don't think there would have been any romance involved, though. She could have married him because he needed it on his resume or something like that.

Which fits perfectly in the "crappy" season we've just seen.... j/k

I'm not so sure about that. :)

Fair enough. I do, though. :)

Who knows... :)

Hehe, could be.

No, I'm waiting for the box-set. :)

It wouldn't be a personal thing from him, it would be something from his in-laws. If I were Chandler, I'd feel a bit awkward giving it to her. If someone should give her that ring, it should be her mother giving it to Monica as a family heirloom, and not her husband.

No, it's an American tradition. The bride throws the bouquet, and the groom throws the bride's garter.

The question is whether the writers will care about that.

Unless Rachel's last sister has made a major life-style change.

DEM? DXM?

The chances are slim, though.

Jeg ogs�.

I'm just going to cross my fingers and hope that Eddie Cahill's new show on the WB, "Glory Days", will be very successful.

I don't think Phoebe was very "Ursulaish" in 701, but I agree with the two others. 718 because she was not the kind Phoebe we all know, and 722 because she wanted to see how much Joey would do for Phoebe.. ?

Oh, they will, believe me, they will. This issue won't be resolved in just one episode.

No, she didn't, and that could turn out to be rather important.

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Yah, although both of them are weak on names - for example Father Karabetsus is "Kalebasous" in Aasen, and "Carrabesos" in Liew.

Yes - my theory is that these were people who so hated Season 6 that they avoided Season 7 while reading spoilers saying how bad certain episodes would be, which were said to be surprisingly good by those who saw them.

I'm afraid I don't agree - Ross is not as good as he thinks he is, but he could still take Chandler, while Joey would wipe the floor with him.

Lol, I hadn't thought of that!

You could say the same about Phoebe, as far as she knew at the time.

Absolutely. Let's hope nothing goes wrong - the story could be true that CCA was pregnant, then miscarried during a session at the gym... :(

Yep.

Actually, I would say that was true until Rachel moved in with Joey, and then she began to change even more, while during S7 Ross reverted a bit.

Thanks.

Indubitably.

Yeah, but Phoebe would be 65, which is not a long life.

Yep. Still sad, though.

Textual analysis shows Monica to be the most loving of the six, even if one excludes sexual partners. It also shows that she's the least self-centered.

Have you thought of learning Klingon?

Awww...

Smil

Yah.

LOL

She never shuts up about it. Even when Rachel went to see if there were any other weddings at the hotel, Phoebe advised her not to tell them Monica was pregnant. That's not how someone who's gotten away with a lie would react.

Take a look at the fake photo I've sent you, of her wearing the hair style she had that morning. Doesn't she look really lovely like that?

In that case, put in an order at http://www.dvdzone2.com/ now.

Okay, I'm not insisting that it be Chandler who gives it to Monica, just that she should be the one who gets it. And it would balance Jack's gift.

I've never seen that happen in a movie or TV show.

BOC

RPGOL - just as long as Brad Pitt doesn't play her.

Johnny Depp, perhaps?

Deus Ex Machina.

I agree - all of these possibilities are just the outside chances.

TT

JO

Okay, thanks about 718/722, but do you think that the way she carried on in 701 was typical Phoebe: selfishly obsessing about doing the music for the wedding; stealing Joey's candy bar, unlike the woman who once gave away a free $1000 because she didn't feel it was hers; or threatening to pound on Monica for touching her guitar?

I'm predicting we learn who the mother is in S8-01 (or S8-02 if they open with two episodes again), and who the father is in the November sweeps.

Absolutomentito!

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I just hope that this goes for all countries so that everybody will get to see the full version.

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Yep, I noticed that too.

And 719 was one of them! I remember how everybody dreaded that little gem. :)

Chandler is not as weak as people think. He's had a lot of practice ever since he started going out with Monica. Would you imagine all the wrestling they've been doing (no, not *that* kind, the kind we saw in 510) since London? He must have improved in some ways.

Also, Phoebe was very impressed by his biceps in 514. I know that she was hitting on him, but he admitted that he was working out or "squeezing things".

Ergo: He's stronger now than he was in 319 because of Monica, and his own physique.

Well, you know how liberal Scandinavians are.... ;)

Good point!

I'm starting to think she was pregnant. I saw a recent picture of her the other day, and she looked pretty skinny again. That could be a result of a weight loss after the miscarriage.

If anything, Rachel has improved to become a future Mrs Tribbiani in season 7.

VSG.

But she would be older than Lily was at the time she committed suicide.

Huh?!? Screechy Monica would never do that!!! j/k

Hehe. No, but I've never watched Star Trek, so I don't think it's necessary at the moment. Thanks to good old England, you don't really need anything else than English.

Which is precisely why it would work. ;) Phoebe is Phoebe. By making this a big secret, she is protecting herself, as well as Monica, who would become totally distracted if she found out about the positive pregnancy test a couple of hours before she was going to walk down the aisle.

Well, yes, but anyone can wear their hair down. She has put a lot of time and effort into her French twist, and that cannot be said about her hairdo that same morning.

I haven't seen it there yet. Where did you find it? HMV said it would be released on September 10th.

In that case I agree with you. I just don't want Chandler to be the one giving it to her.

Watch "Father of the Bride" (starring Steve Martin, not the old one), and you'll learn about tons of funny American wedding traditions.

Well, he did look like a feminine man with that long hair in "Legends of the Fall"...

Or his look-alike: Marilyn Manson.

Oh, I see, and I agree with you. It is a very cool DEM, though.

No, I don't think that was an Ursula-vibe, that was cynical Phoebe, who was so brilliant in 706. I think there is a big difference between Phoebe the �berbitch and Cynical Phoebe. The latter is a result of all the things she has been going through since 103 (losing David, the trauma involving her parents, the triplets, losing Gary, an almost ruined apartment etc.), while the former is out to hurt her "friends".

JO.

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It's very likely. :)

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*EXACTLY* The girl who posted the filming report was mortified by the reaction, and feared that her (very fair) piece would affect ratings.

Okay, sweetheart, you've convinced me. :)

Yay!!! :)

TT

Yes indeed. And the BBC News today (in an item about wedding rings) is again saying that Jennifer & Brad Pitt are expecting a baby next year.

Okay for the offspring, but still not good for her.

Grin. But if you count how many of their phrases (in 101-716) contain the pronouns "I" or "you", this is what you find...

I U I-U

           425   325   100   Ross
           269   249    20   Phoebe
           537   523    14   Rachel
           292   305   -13   Chandler
           249   299   -50   Joey
           263   551  -288   Monica

My reasons for suggesting Klingon are threefold - it would be fun, it is *never* polite (IIRC the literal translation of their word for "hello" is "what the hell do you want"), and apparently it now has more speakers than Esperanto.

Ja, I was expecting the double bluff argument, but I don't buy it. Sorry.

That may be so, but it doesn't suit the shape of her face & neck.

Just send them an email - in French, since it's you.

That was the date I heard for the last two discs, which could also apply to the box set.

Okay. Thanks. It would come from either Ross or Judy.

Oh, I have, and it was so great to see that Monica was not like that.

I must have forgotten about the garter, though.

Oh, I so didn't like that movie. Very disappointing.

Ech, no sweetie - any other ideas? :)

Yep. What do you think of the sperm bank theory that's floating around?

Yes, yes - you're right of course. :)

TT

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Lol! Names are always hard...

I think the moment everybody saw that Ross was "going to fall in love with his cousin", people assumed they knew all about what was going to happen. The fact that Cassie was not attracted to him at all, made all the difference, and the story was not gross at all.

TT! Gosh, I didn't think I'd be able to convince you. :)

They'll keep saying that every month until it's true.

BOC.

Ross is self-centered? That's not a big surprise. His Mental Geller phase ruined him to a certain extent, and it took an entire season to make him all Ross again.

RPGOL!!!

It cannot compete with English, though.

Fair enough. :)

Fair enough (2). :)

French? Eh... I think I'll wait until I see them advertising it.

Yep.

Yep. She already has the Porsche, so why shouldn't she get the ring?

I know, but we haven't seen the reception yet.

It's very sappy, sure, but the pictures are wonderful. Montana has never been so beautiful IMO.

Not really. Fortunately, most male Hollywood stars have realised how ugly they look with long hair.

If Joey is the father, I think it's very likely. It all started in 714, where Rachel all of a sudden was just as broody as Monica, and it would be easiest for her to use Joey's "product" if she wanted to go through with it. She already knows and loves him, so why not? And if she wasn't willing to go "all the way" with him, a sperm bank would be the best way to go.

TT. :)
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I know, that's why I have more confidence in the transcript as a whole when the names are right. Ms.Westmore did have a strong accent, though.

Yes, although we sophisticated Europeans can be laid-back about it...

It was the image of what Monica puts him through that did it.

I'm suspicious of the denials, actually.

It's strange that Phoebe is a little worse than Rachel, but I'm not all that surprised that Joey is rather better than Chandler.

See? You'd like it! :)

BOC, but I meant as an artificial language. Have you heard of Nadsat?

Is dobby, wiv oomny slovos u doh lovet ina gorody biblio.

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Exactly!

Eek!

Yeah sure, but when you start noticing the scenery, it doesn't say much for the story, though.

They could wear it in a French twist... :P

Yeah, but if that was so, why did she look so worried?

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Grin. Sometimes having a monarch and a lively royal family can be an advantage.

Ah, I see. Visual aids... ;)

I'm not. I think the picture of JA in Milan earlier this month speaks for itself. She is so thin that she cannot be pregnant.

http://people.aol.com/people/pop_up/0,10772,129233_6_gallery2,00.html

Well, Joey cares a lot about others, so that's true.

Hehe. I must admit that it sounds rather intriguing.

Lol! What does that mean then?

And it looks like we'll get to see it in September!

BOC. The movie is nice to look at, while the story itself is so incredibly over the top, you have to laugh.

LOL!!! :) Hmm... Johnny Depp or Brad Pitt with French twists.. Lovely image, don't you think?

Because she started to realise what this decision would mean to her. She was depressed and slightly jealous of Monica ("you are getting married, this is all I have" 718), and decided to do it as a spur of the moment kind of thing. It didn't really hit her what she was doing until after the conception, and by then it was too late.

And just as she had found out that she was in fact pregnant, she saw two of her best friends tying the knot, blissfully happy together. Suddenly, she realised that by getting pregnant, she would have to deal with it on her own. Granted, her friends will be there for her, but it won't be the same as being in a relationship with the father of the baby.

I know that I've described their relationship as if they could have ended up in bed together after a wild party, but that is also one of the possibilities. I guess I'm just hoping it's Joey's, because I've wanted to see him with a child of his own for a long time now, and I think it would be so funny to watch.

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Ha.

You've been learning from Rachel. Well done.

I'll check that out. Thanks.

Yep.

Check it out.

It is rather good, with clever words that you will not find at your local library.

The street talk in "A Clockwork Orange"�is based on Nadsat, which itself has a lot in common with Russian, Yiddish, Arabic, and English slang.

Yay - me too if it airs on the 20th.

Yeah. Did you spot the orange traffic cone?

Another curiosity is that all three male leads had just been in movies of gothic horror novels - "Interview with the Vampire", "Mary Shelley's Frankenstein", and "Bram Stoker's Dracula".

Oh, and something I have been meaning to tell you. Do you remember when we were discussing "Deep Blue Sea"? Well, the three sharks are killed in the same way as the sharks in "Jaws", "Jaws 2", and "Jaws 3-D". The first is killed by compressed gas, the second bites into a electric wire, and the last one is blown up by an explosive device.

BEG

I think it would suit them far more than it does Jennifer Aniston...

I'm not quite sure I buy Rachel being so short-sighted.

Okay, if you can convince me of the initial premise, I'll accept that.

Ah, *now* you have me totally on board!!! :)

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Speaking of which, only four weeks to go 'till the next big royal wedding!

TT.

Gosh, that's a rather weird mix.

Yep.

No, when was that? I haven't seen that movie in ages, so I wouldn't remember it anyway.

Oh, that's right.

Hehe, and how many people did they kill before they died?

SOS (BEG in Norwegian... ;) )

Lol! I hope JA doesn't read this...

Fair enough. I don't really think Monica is short-sighted either, but she was about to do it in 303.

Okay.

I knew you would agree on that one.

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Three cheers for them.

Not really, because there's far more faux-Russian than anything else.

As Brad Pitt rides his horse towards the edge of the cliff.

Oh, no idea.

Errr... let me see if I can work this out. "Stor Ond Smil"?

I hope she does - Miss Aniston, I'm a great admirer of your beauty and your skill as an actress, but please don't wear your hair up...

Yeah, but Monica was in a very bad place in 303, and the reason was that the love of her life (as she thought) would not give her any babies.

Go on then.

Yep.

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Yep. And for the queen mother of course.

IC. That's another movie I need to see..

After his brother dies?

Well done, Tennant! You're very close. The correct answer is "Stort, ondskapsfullt smil"

Lol! And let me point out that I think she looks beautiful either way. :)

Perhaps Rachel felt the same way this spring, only she didn't show it. Her depression caused by her 30th birthdayparty could be worse than expected, and the result of it could be Baby Green. I've rarely seen Rachel as depressed and vulnerable as she was when she was turning 30. However, she wasn't as devastated as Monica was in 303 of course, in fact, I would say she was missing something she'd never had (family and kids), whereas Monica was missing something she had had for about four months (so-called "true love") and feared she would never have again.

Did I get any closer with that one?

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It's very good. A lot of people think that it's too violent, but you are easily intelligent enough to see that it's actually against violence.

Errr... pass.

TT

In the subtitles, they just put "ond" for short. Check out the end of the opening scene (after the titles) in 205 "TOW Five Steaks and an Eggplant".

I quite agree, but it still remains that if she had gone to a sperm bank, she wouldn't have looked so worried when it was successful.

No. Quite the reverse. I still don't believe she went to a sperm bank, but if she did, you've supplied her with a rational motive to do so.

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I reaed that it aired on one of our channels a couple of months ago, so I guess I'll have to rent it if I want to see it now.

Well, technically, you can use both, only in this case it would be "ondt" and not "ond". "Ondskapsfullt" is just more elaborate, and a word I would prefer. :)

Actually, the Norwegian translation of "The Shining" is "Ondskapens Hotell", which means "The Hotel of Evil". It has lost something, hasn't it?

Fair enough, she looks like she might have had a one-night stand with him, but I'm just saying *in case* she went to a sperm bank..

Thanks. For the record, I don't really believe she went to a sperm bank either, but I want to come up with a logical explanation why in case she did.

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It's worth it.

So the subtitles are wrong to say "ond"?

Fraid so.

Okay.

My money's on a drunken encounter with Joey or Tag.

Okay, fair enough. :)

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It depends on the context. In the sentence above, I was talking about the evil smile (ondt/ondskapsfullt smil), but I don't know what the subtitles say in this particular episode as I don't have the DVD. However, I guess you're thinking about "Pure evil, horny and alone" etc, and I would translate that to:

"Okay, ren ondskap, k�t og alene. Jeg har gjort dette."

I know...  :(

Me too, and I'm praying the father is the former.

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Well, Ross says it first, and the subtitles are a little shorter...

ROSS: Herregud, du er ond!

CHANDLER: OK, ond... K�t og alene. Jeg har gjort dette.

Me too.

And even if the father is the latter, I'm hoping we won't see him again.

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Okay, I see what they mean now. They are basically saying "you are evil", while I'm focusing more on the "pure evil" part. It's hard to explain, but neither of us are wrong, we've just interpreted it a bit differently. Chandler's sentence depends on what Ross says. If Ross's sentence means "you are evil", they're right. But if Ross means "you are (the personification of) pure evil", I'd say I'm right.

Yep, and Eddie Cahill will be too busy to show up anyway.

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I would simply say that you are right. Having read the English subtitles, it seems to me that the DVDs should provide a new version, designed as an accurate rendition of the dialogue for those with a decent reading speed.

Fingers crossed.

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Thanks, Tennant. :)

They should! The best thing, however, is to simply turn the subtitles off. They're just a big distraction anyway.

Everything crossed.

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You're welcome, Marita. :)

That's not an option for the hard of hearing; and for me it's annoying to turn subtitling on to catch a garbled dialogue - like the notorious "Mozambique" in Close Encounters - or the spelling of a name, only to find that the line was dumbed down. Also, with a little ingenuity it would be possible to generate transcripts, although you'd still have to add the names of speakers & stage directions.

Have you plaited your hair? ;)

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Oh, I know they need subtitles. But living in a country where *every* TV-show and movie have subtitles, I'm sick of it, and the ability to turn the subtitles off is one of the best features on my DVD-player IMO.

Well, I prefer to wear it down, but if he shows up again, I'll do anything to make him disappear. ;)

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I suppose, but with your good reading speed another thing you can do is FF the DVD with subtitling on, and watch a movie in 25 minutes.

Best to take no chances, and plait it now.

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Hehe, I've tried that, but the moment I start FF, the subtitles disappear.

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Oh dear. Well, did you watch "Crouching Tiger Hidden Dragon" in rather poorly dubbed American English, or the exquisite original Mandarin with the subtitles switched on?

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I watched it in Mandarin. It was rather unusual to have to pay so much attention to the Norwegian subtitles at first, but I got used to it.

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Well done, good for you, and there you go then. :)

Wasn't the film just absolutely beautiful?

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Definitely! I loved it! The scenes where Jen Yu fights all the people at the inn, and where they're fighting in the treetops are pure magic. :)

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Oh yes - it was only upon listening to the commentary that I learnt they were not trees, but bamboo plants. And it was so refreshing to have a film that did not look like America, but somewhere different.

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Absolutely, it's very exotic. :) "Anna and the King" is rather similar in that aspect, with dozens of elephants and huge, amazing sets showing the palace in Thailand. However, it's not nearly as good CTHD.

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Yep.

You mean the Jodie Foster vehicle? That was so disappointing.

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Yes. The lines are rather ridiculous, but the sets and the costumes are incredible.

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I'm afraid I only got about a quarter through, then switched channels.

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I watched it on DVD, so I could ffwd some of the parts. :) I kept waiting for Chow Yun Fat to start kicking and fighting, but unfortunately, he never did.

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And it was the audience who were going up the wall...

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Lol! :)
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Exactly. It's not a movie that I'm going to watch over and over again, that's for sure.

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Exactly. What movies have you watched over & over again?

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Jumping in the middle here- I was thinking about the sperm bank idea, too. It would be the simplest way for the writers to get out of the "who's the daddy" dilemma, but I think it would be a lazy way out.

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Yah, and I don't think the writers *are* trying to get out of it. They've not written themselves into a corner, they have written a new doorway.

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oooh! Nicely put!

I've noticed that I have very few preconceived notions about how this season will progress, much the same as after the 4th season finale. There are too many possibilities. Before seasons 6 and 7, I could pretty much predict how at least the C and M relationship would progress.

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Thanks.

Well done, although the cynics, who a year ago predicted that S7 would be very predictable, got their predictions quite wrong.

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Yes, but the main event did occur as most predicted.

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The fact that the season would end with the wedding was all laid out for us, and therefore not much of a prediction to make, but how the wedding went was quite unexpected, as were the other episodes along the way. :)

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On 07 Aug 2001 03:21:46 GMT, [email] (Appy50rider) wrote:

Yeah, I agree. Besides, Rachel's pregnancy could give the writers so many flashback possibilities, it's too good to write as merely a "sperm-bank" baby.

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Yep!

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Sorry sweetie, but having seen the picture I don't think JA looks all that thin. Also, the way that she is sitting, with her hand resting on her midriff, could easily hide a small bulge (if she had one).

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Okay, but take a look at the picture on this page: http://www.vg.no/pub/vgart.hbs?artid=2053644 (it's from a Norwegian newspaper). It's from the same event in Milan.

She's as skinny as ever IMO.

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Right, I'll check it out. :)

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I still say she's not *that* skinny. She does have 6 months to go.

What's more, there's a hint of a bulge on her bare midriff, 13 pixels on either side of her navel, though I accept that's probably muscle.

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I think those are just her muscles, but I'd be happy for Jennifer and Brad if they're in fact going to have a little bundle of joy in a couple of months.

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Why a couple of months?

According to the BBC News, she has 6 months to go, and according to David Crane, her character won't even begin to show until mid-October (when the Thanksgiving episode is filmed).

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Just jumping in (again, I just can't keep to myself can I?) - my mother actually lost about two stone when she was first pregnant with my sister. At four months pregnant she could fit into size 6 jeans (that's USA size 2 for anyone curious) and it happens that way with quite a few people. Well maybe not size 6 or anything but they do lose weight. So it's definitely possible :)

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Oh, thankyou so much Mari, in my male ignorance I never suspected that might happen. Check out the Milan pictures & tell us what you think.

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Really wouldn't like to say. It's possible that she is, but it's equally possible that she's not. You can't tell anything from those pictures really.

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Okay.

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That makes sense, but I still don't believe she's pregnant. I've heard so many rumours about this now, that I'm not taking anything for granted until I see an official statement from their publicist.

And another thing, JA did such a great job as a pregnant woman in The Object of My Affection (her best movie so far IMHO), I'm sure she'll do a magnificent job regardless of her real life condition. :)

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That's sensible.

BOC, she's a fantastic actress, yet that is not the point.

When making the movie, they didn't have to worry about her becoming pregnant for real, six months later on.

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No, and I'm not saying it is either, I just wanted to stress that JA doesn't have to be pregnant in real life to portray a believable pregnant woman. :)

Nope.

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Yes indeed, and also to watch an old episode you haven't seen for a long time because you didn't like it that much, but you do watch it because of the DVD, and it may not be great but it's better than you remember...

Phoebe would be relaxed about that, but I assumed she would have an adjoining room, which was the reason why Monica couldn't move rooms.

There sure is - if only he'd made use of his educational opportunities instead of having endless sex from the age of 13... what am I saying?

Yes, and he expertly manipulated Ross & the girls in only 73 seconds so that Chandler & Monica could kiss at the start of 1999, with the added bonus that he got Rachel. Then it was very neat they way Joey got Richard Crosby out of the studio in the finale.

Err no, because *this* Phoebe wasn't thrown out onto the streets, to lose track of time as she starved in a cardboard box.

Well, Big Brother is big again this year (though not huge) but it keeps itself to itself, confined to just two channels, but cooking gardening & DIY programmes have become mainstream entertainment over the last few years, and now this crap is everywhere. :(

Ah, well we have Friends on three channels...

Yeah, but Ross doesn't look like Rachel...

What about not stepping on the cracks between the paving?

Pardon? What sort of pimps do you have in Oslo?

Yep - we can talk about 722-4 now...

Okay.

That's why it's in the list.

Hah! I can imagine what Susan would say to that!

Yay!

Aaarrgh! Hey, that's her first movie since starting on "Ellen".

Neither, he has to eat every crumb, for fear of her wrath.

Tee-hee, or not masculine enough, according to Phoebe.

Of course, that's why it's in the list. :)

Ah.

Well, that's as good a reason as any, sweetheart!

He could pop in to see Phoebe's mum at the halfway point.

Ah, that's okay, I don't smoke but I shave.

That's the whole point of having a "thing", to make children run away.

Yep.

Lol, we ought to see more of her - maybe in S8.

Thanks - apart from the oven mitts, I wrote that for Alyssa, who used to post on here a *lot* until - errr, better not say.

But a cat can't sell her soul.

Oh, like "at least she had the chance to leave a man at the altar", or "isn't that just kick-you-in-the-crotch, spit-on-your-neck fantastic".

It's alright for you to talk, you don't have this problem...

Course he can, since hand-eye co-ordination is not required.

Okay, now get it down to 68 characters... :)

Ah - but didn't we work out that Ross & Carol didn't go to NYU?

He went there for his post-doc, which is when he met Julie.

Well it worked! She's now married, and to the right guy, but curiously not on May 15th, 2001...

The father.

That's the first I've heard that he went to try out their food.

What else do you know about this???

That's asking rather a lot. What about "reindeer"?

Yay! Perhaps she'll start to eat.

Oh. Don't worry about it. I don't know either. Does anyone???

He could build it on the roof.

It's after Project Mayhem has gotten underway.

Can't you buy them in the Village?

Well, the bloopers showed what Yasmine did to Dick...

Seen it yet?

Indeed not. Since they're already been to Italy & Britain, does any other European country spring to mind?

Exactly.

Oh. That's sad.

Nope. :)

Because he was concentrating on the harmonic aspect?

Well, at least we now know that Chandler's dad is Charles Bing.

Maybe Monica does it for him...

Awww, Marita! That's so sweet! :)

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The only reason BB's not huge is because unfortunately, *unlike* last year, all the more interesting characters are getting voted out early on, with the exception of Brian (who I want to win - he reminds me so much of one of my friends that it'd be impossible for me *not* to want him to win). Whereas at this point in the game last year, Nasty Nick only had 4 more days left in the house. I much prefer this year's bunch though, having said that - much more varied, generally more unassuming, and for the most part pretty likeable (with the exception of Amma, who I can't stand - it's nothing to do with race, before anyone starts!). I do think Elizabeth's possibly a bit of a dark horse, though...

Of course, having said all that, if *I* went in, of course it'd be partly for the money - I want a Peugeot 206 Coupe Cabriolet, dammit! *lol*

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Ah - the only BB I've watched is them fast asleep at 3am. It's quite restful, like the aquarium, the log fire, or the orbiting Earth on various German satellite channels at that time.

Well, the best of luck, Teens... :)

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Well, I like Brian a lot because he practically *is* one of my best mates (except for the gay thing ;)), so that's pretty much what keeps me watching. My guess is that Bubble's out this week, though.

I'm actually considering cashing in my childrens' bond and putting it in a tax-free ISA in order to get more interest on it... I believe you get something like 10% interest on an ISA. Me want. ;) It'll still be a good few years before I get my car, though - they're about �15K, with the insurance on top of it...

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Ah. Is that good?

Yes, it's car insurance that takes the sting out of turning 25...

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Well, it's not that I don't like him, but it's that he's said on a number of occasions that he's only in it for the money, not the experience - hypocritical, but at least the others make an effort to seem like they're in it for the experience. I think they're a much better bunch than last year, but that may be because there were probably far stricter filtering procedures in place for the potential contestants...

I just found out that I have a savings account on top of my childrens' bonds! I thought they were one and the same! I'm not allowed at the bonds until I'm 21, though, which is fair enough. Only problem now is, I now have *no* idea how much money I actually have...

As for the ISA - I'm going to get a cash one, for which I'm allowed to invest a maximum of �3000 per tax year, and attempt to save part of my loan in it (*if* it ever arrives - still waiting on the application forms). It's really not going to be that hard a decision - I believe something along the lines of "which one has the highest interest rates"... ;)

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Maybe he'll turn out to be a vampire or something...

Yay! :)

It's a good time time to start, since Dubya has buggered up prices, quite the opposite of what his supporters expected.

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Doubt it. Although he's gone, now - I've sort of been rethinking on it. I thought he was in it for the wrong reasons, but he was doing it for his daugher, so fair enough. I'm willing to bet he'll get at least the prize money from the publicity alone...

*Not* "yay", I don't like not knowing how much money I actually have to my name.

But you can only invest �3000 a year - not good because if by estimates, I should have at least another few hundred on top of that, and I don't really want to blow that extra few hundred just for the sake of it. I'm technically entitled to a tax-free regular savings account anyway, because a. I'm still a student, b. I don't earn over �4,533 a year, and c. did I mention I'm still a student? The loan is tax-free, at least that's what I've been led to believe, but if I find out they've been deducting tax from my savings account, I will *not* be happy. (I've not even had a statement for the past 3 years - that *can't* be good.)

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Isn't that the problem, the losers do better than the winners?

The reason you don't know is because you have more than you thought you have. Let yourself be happy for that.

Visit your local branch of the Inland Revenue. They are nice people and are always willing to help.

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You mean my local post office? ;) No, they really rush you there, because it's such a busy place.

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Tee-hee, but seriously, you should pop round to the IR.

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I would, if we had one!

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There's bound to be one in Cambridge.

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I'm not headed in until at least next Saturday, and even then that's to celebrate someone's birthday - and it's not worth going in just to find out how much money I've got, when I should have been told anyway. I've got something to send off my account book in, anyway. I probably won't go in until I have to claim back all the tax that the IR have undoubtedly rudely claimed off me. *lol*

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You'll find that all the nice IR people want to do is claim the correct amount of tax, no more, no less. :)

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They're not supposed to be claiming *any*, that's the point - I'm a non-taxpayer owing to my extended student status, and the fact that I don't earn over the tax threshold (and probably never will at the rate I'm going). If I find they have been, though, I'll be in the IR like a shot. ;)

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Tina wrote:

You may not get it back until April, and if you do they'll send you to your employer's payroll department first. On the positive side, last time I reclaimed tax they overpaid me by �350 and I don't have to repay it.

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Oh, so have you got the �300 yet, then?

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The Inland Revenue haven't owed me money since 1997.

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Oh, lucky Inland Revenue then...

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Well, I got my balance back, and they haven't. They lowered the interest rates by 2% without telling me instead. :(

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They also give you money, if that's the correct thing to do.

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On Sun, 24 Jun 2001 02:44:17 BST, Tennant Stuart wrote:

Hehe, I was waiting for that! :)

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Hmmph, I wish I could win all the seasons on DVD. My VHS copies are really getting old...

Phoebe sharing a wall with them on their secret weekend away together? Doesn't sound like a very smart plan...

Lol.

I know. He was really smart in that scene ("that's what you told me!").

Oh, we were talking about *that* Phoebe... ;)

And that's exactly why we're so grateful for DVD-players.

Hmph. Lucky you.

Hmph. Sexist. ;) I disagree there...

Sure, that too. :)

I don't know any pimps in Oslo, but I must have read that paragraph rather quickly, because I thought you were talking about Paul Hogan, not Hulk Hogan. Sorry about that. :)

A nice person nowadays, but I can see why young Chandler felt awkward whenever he was around in the past.

Smil.

Yes, she doesn't have the same kind of respect for Bobo as Judy, does she?

It was okay. It has "Disney" written all over it, but seeing "Janice" as a camp leader really made it worth watching.

Good point. And then Rachel would make him taste all the layers of her trifle.

Lol! I was thinking about that as well. :)

And fill her ice trays.

Lol! Snakes or cats that look like snakes will scare them away.

Yep. Walking around, looking like Phoebe...

Oh. It's too bad when people who post a lot have to leave. :(

Why not?

Lol. Exactly.

And it is required when you're holding a record? Mind you, the one at (ca) 16:55 seems like something Chandler could manage, but not the one at 16:58.

Well, see, that's the problem... It's just too much to explain!

We did? When?

Oh.

Well, I don't mind the date. The fact that they're married is enough for me. :)

But what if that is in fact Tag? I hope they set a new Friends-record for fast divorce.

Ross was going to discover him as he exited the strip club, and afterwards Chandler was going to drag (?) Ross along to the club to try out their tuna melts. These tuna melts were supposed to be the best in New York. Gist.com had this spoiler on their site.

Nah... That's typical for the Lapps.

About time..

There's too much dancing going on up there.

Hmmm. I think I should see this movie again to remember what you're talking about.

Are the candy stores open after midnight?

Eh...

Well, I can only spot Joey's sweater.

Hmmm... I don't know, Spain? ;)

Lol. Could be. Or perhaps Hugsy was the last one.

Yep.

TT.  :)
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Your wish is my command.

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If you think of the cost as two bucks an episode, they're quite cheap.

That's the point, Phoebe invited herself along, supposedly ruining the plan. But then the original plan would not have gone wrong, so afterwards C&M would feel happier about it, but they wouldn't know.

Then we would have a situation where Phoebe knew first, and Joey would not have found out until later. Then she wouldn't have made a fuss in UNG's flat, and who knows what would happen then.

And quick-thinking too. Look at the guys trying to escape helping Rachel move in 606 "TOO the Last Night", as Monica catches them. Chandler makes a lame excuse involving Joey, and she *immediately* catches him out in a contradiction, but she kindly lets him get away with it. Then she turns to Ross who can't think of any excuse at all. Joey quickly whispers to him that he's got Ben, which Monica believes, but when she checks Ross about the timing, Chandler stupidly says that Ben is at a dinner party.

Well yes, since her life drastically changed at 14.

Yep. Do you like listing to the director's commentary?

It's a fact of life. Women did not pursue a young Ross, hoping to entice him into having sex with them, did they?

RPGOL!!! I seeeeeeee... :)

Exactly, which is why I'd like to see what an adult Chandler would make of it all, like Scrooge visiting Christmas Past.

Indeed, that's exactly right, but she does like him, as we saw when they danced at her wedding.

That's right - and then he & Phoebe play mini-quiche roulette...

I know, she was harder on him than she is on Chandler.

Ewwwww! You do know what boys need to do when they've been swimming???

Exactly. :)

This is it, I can't believe that the writers make so little of Phoebe being an identical twin. There are so many stories they could tell.

Yep.

She can't sign the contract.

I'm not saying that he can always hold onto stuff, just that he sometimes can.

I don't know what you mean. There are just two catches, at 16:37/16:58.

The discipline is part of the art form, like writing a haiku.

Don't worry, she wouldn't marry Tag even if he was the father.

He-he

Gosh thanks, I'll check out that site.

BTW, Joey enjoyed a tuna melt & four plates of curly fries in S1-16.

Well, what can she sing that US/UK viewers will recognise as Norwegian?

Indeed. I've just seen "Scream 3", and Gale Weathers is far less glamorous than in the original movie, since CCA was so thin.

Okay then... while the Bings aren't looking, Phoebe moves all the furniture from their lounge into the bedrooms.

So you should...

Certainly. You're thinking of hardware stores.

Sweater? That's a casual jacket. Anyway, look just after that, as Joey raises his left arm, when he finishes saying "talking to London".

Okay then, Spain. :)

Why Hugsy?

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That's true.

Pardon? Do you mean that the glasses wouldn't ruin their room in the first place?

I think Phoebe would have used that piece of information for blackmail...

Yep.

IC. ;)

I haven't tried that yet... But I'd imagine you'll be able to watch the movie in a different way.

But Ross had several girlfriends in high-school, so he had to be popular to a certain extent. Rachel was of course more popular than him (that's based on what we've heard), but I don't think their high-school sweethearts were results of neither their fantastic flirting skills nor their looks. A certain amount of charm and compliments can pretty much get you anywhere.

Sounds like perfect fanfic material if the writers don't want to deal with it in a real episode.

He had saved their day, no wonder she was nice to him. :)

And go down to the sea to visit Jacques Cousteau.

Well, she already knew that Chandler was "man enough" to wear women's underwear.

You said it, not me. I was just thinking of what Phoebe was supposed to do in 325.

Yep.

She can dip her paw in the ink and press her paw on the paper.

Okay.

I think there's a *tiny* one at 16:48. Mind you, he keeps tossing it back and forth throughout the scene, we just can't see it. But his arms *are* moving.

I guess so. It's still hard though..

You should. They have a lot of funny information there.

Oh, that's right.

I think we've already covered all the words you know that are Norwegian. We have "viking" and "ski", so I don't know what other words you know.

I know, she looked dreadful in that movie. The hair was all wrong, and she was so thin it was scary.

Hehe.

Bet they're just as "funny" as the hardware stores, though.

Oh, that's right.

Because he was the only friend Joey had who knew about Chandler and Monica and who wasn't already in the quartet.

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No, it is the same in the first place, Monica still finds glasses with lipstick on them - but now with Phoebe there to moderate her behaviour, Monica does not extend this to exchanging rooms in the second place.

Ooh, what would she ask for?

The commentaries vary greatly, some are very revealing, others can be more self-congratulatory. Some discs have more than one commentary, so you can get the special effects guys talking about the tricks of their trade, (which I find interesting at least), but then during the other sections of the movie they have nothing to talk about, so they start gossiping about all the daft things that happened on the set, or the practical jokes that got played, or the parties they went to...

Yeah, but all of Ross's so-called girlfriends were just using him, while they slept with their real boyfriends behind his back. (418)

Well, if anyone reading this decides to have a go, give me credit, okay?

Yes, but it was more than that, his actions placed a seal of approval on her union with Carol that no mere words could ever have done.

Eek, Mr.Ledbetter wasn't that bad!

Exactly, but even so the Joey-Phoebe prospects look poor.

I know. But I also know what boys are like... ;)

Lol, okay, but what would the cat ask for? Doesn't it make more sense that Mrs.Whiskerson the woman sold her soul to Satan, but her wish was granted in a tricky way, so that she ended up as a hairless cat?

I've been to Gist, but there are a million links.

Whereabouts did you find the spoilers?

Yeah, but most US/UK viewers will not recognise "ski" as Norwegian.

If Phoebe sings "reindeer", they will think of it as Norwegian even though that would be incorrect...

I've just seen "Scream 2", and she wasn't so thin in that, but her hair was all red & black stripes - at one point DA commented on it.

Oh, and BTW I worked out who the killer was! :)

AJ

Okay. :)

Awwww... that's very sad for him, but clever of you. :)

And somewhat similar to Monica's absence from Rachel's first wedding.

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Oh, I see what you mean now.

An airplane perhaps?

I tried to watch "The Contender" (fab flick) with the director's commentary on, but I got distracted, so I think I should watch it with his commentary on when I've seen the movie a couple of times.

Okay, I'll just say that gender is not an important factor when it comes to flirting. It's your brain (or lack thereof in a drunken state) that flirts, not your - what shall I call it - "assets". The looks appeal to the animal instinct anyway, while the game of flirting is much more intelligent than using a wonderbra or plastic surgery.

And as for Rachel? Didn't her boyfriends cheat on her too? (402, 508)

I still think "like" is a strong word. She respects him as Ben's father, but I don't think we'll see a relationship beyond those feelings any time soon.

And I'm very grateful for that.

Two tons of fine salmon. Without any chickenella to worry about.

I'm sorry, but I'd rather see a small scene inspired by Cats on Friends. :)

It's in the episode guide section on the Friends site. IIRC it says "the one that aired last week" or "the one that aired a while ago".

Great! :) Find out who's the killer in Scream 3, and I'll be impressed. (I was spoiled before I got to see it, so I knew, though.)

TT.

Yep.

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Okay. :)

Lol, but it has to be something that C&M can provide.

Oh sure, never listen to the commentary first - and when you do, switch the subtitles on, so that you can still follow the story.

Fair enough, but guys are much more affected by visual stimuli.

OJ - Chip Matthews. But he was just one, not all her boyfs.

I think maybe you regard "like" as a stronger word than I do.

JO

RPGOL!!!

Hehe.

Have you got a long URL that zeros right in on the spoilers?

TT

If I had, I'd have said so. My reaction at the denouement was "Huh?"

All I knew in advance was the main cast list, so I knew that Gale would survive Scream 2, but I was so on the edge of my seat for 3.

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Tutoring so that Phoebe can get her high-school diploma?

Yep, I plan on doing just that with all of my DVDs soon. What I really enjoy is watching the season 6 DVDs with the French dubbing on. It's so hilarious! The man who "is" Ross sounds 20 years older than the rest of them, while Joey sounds like a teenager. Rachel has a rather shrill voice etc.

That would be a compliment to us girls, then.

Barry cheated on her.

Okay.

It could happen. My cat would certainly say yes to that. :)

718 is described here: http://www.gist.com/tvclubs/episode_article.jsp?key=friends&fanclub=friends&episodenumber=164

And it's not a spoiler section, it's more like a preview of the different episodes: http://www.gist.com/tvclubs/epiguide_index.jsp?key=friends&fanclub=friends&season=7

I would have been totally unspoiled if it hadn't been for some Scream fan who blurted it out here on ATF.

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No need for blackmail, they'd be delighted to help her. It would make a good story though, because Monica would get too teachery, and soon put Chandler in his place. Ross would point out that he's a professional educator, and things would progress from there...

There's French dubbing on the season 6 DVDs? <has a quick decko> AJ!

I reckon that Ross sounds younger & Chandler sounds older. Rachel is shrill though, and Monica sounds quite accurate. I checked out Unagi to see what Janice sounded like, but she was far less 'annoying'.

Mais oui, mon cheri.

Okay, so that's two, but not all her boyfs.

http://www.gist.com/tvclubs/episode_article.jsp?key=friends&fanclub=friends&episodenumber=164

http://www.gist.com/tvclubs/epiguide_index.jsp?key=friends&fanclub=friends&season=7

TT - I've checked them out, and you're right, they're short reviews.

So where are the filming reports?

Gosh, how did I miss that, then?

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And how would the others find out about the "teacher-student" relationship? :)

Smil.

Really? I think Ross sounds much older than the others. He's got such a hoarse voice. You should check out 622 when Ross and Paul sing "I'm Just A Love Machine". It doesn't sound anything like the real song.

Merci beaucoup.

And Paolo was about to cheat on her. Poor girl...

I don't know. I only read these.

They put the spoiler in the headline: "xxxx is the killer in Scream 3!!!"

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It wouldn't be a secret, BTDT: but Joey would try to teach Ross how to teach; and Rachel would be very supportive until the "teacher-student" relationship progressed into something else, then she'd go bitchcakes.

Do the same actors perform the voices in every episode?

Well, first of all, they don't sing it together - Paul sings it to his reflection, and later Ross sings it to blackmail him. I heard the song first in French, and Paul *did* sound peculiar, but then in English he was even more extreme. The thing is that the French actor just cannot compare with Bruce Willis giving an Emmy-winning performance. But if you're referring to the French Ross, you're quite right, for he does not follow the tune at all, whereas Schwimmer does.

But second of all, there's an amazing difference in the audience track during the big revelation at the end. As Chandler says that the museum is beautiful, they don't gasp; and when he agrees he can't believe he will ask Monica to marry him, they don't cheer: we just hear general laughter. This is most peculiar, for I would have expected the French track to use the original studio sound, not canned laughter.

Okay, 2�, but not all her boyfs... :)

When was this?

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I was thinking of the relationship between the teacher Monica and the student Chandler. Were you referring to that as well?

I think so. They sound exactly the same on all the DVDs from season 6.

I know.

Yep, the sound is rather peculiar on the French version. The background sound is generally worse than the English one IMO.

And Ross. And the firemen in 114. She doesn't have any luck with guys, does she?

It was right after the movie premiered in the USA. I have no idea when, because I deleted it a long time ago.

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No. Phoebe is the only student, and the other five are teachers, but Monica/Chandler/Rachel/Joey also try to tell Ross how to teach her.

Oh. They seem to vary a bit to me. Maybe because I don't know them.

It's very puzzling, as everything is on separate tracks.

BTW, do you have any S7 DVDs yet? The sound track for the long versions is in Dolby Digital 5.1 or so I'm informed.

Oh okay sweetie, I give in... ;(

That would be 4th February 2000.

Eleven days before your first message, (that I've got, anyway).

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Okay, gotcha now.

I think they're the same. Ross's voice is really special, so I found it easy to recognise him.

I haven't bought any of them yet. I'm still waiting for the box set...

Smil.

I started posting on ATF in November 1999, so that makes sense.

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Okay. :)

I'll take your word for it, sweetie.

Last I heard the box itself costs �7.

Who did you post as in January 2000?

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TT.

Still, it's much cheaper than buying all of them individually.

My old nickname of course. :)

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No, the box set cost �7 more than buying all of them individually.

According to my archive, Ariel began on 15th February 2000.

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On Fri, 10 Aug 2001 03:04:33 BST, Tennant Stuart wrote:

Where? At Blackstar the season 7 DVDs cost �18.59 each (�16.73 if you pre-order), while the box set costs �77.39.

Nope, I posted here for the first time on November 21st, 1999 using another name, while I posted as Ariel on November 25th, 1999.

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As I recall, it was that the DVDs were about �10 each, and the box set of three discs was about �37 - I guess it must have been half a season.

Oh dear, looks like none of your early posts got saved... :(

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Unfortunately, this season's DVDs are rather expensive, so I hope the extra footage is worth it.

Eh, nothing worth mentioning anyway. I remember asking people where I could find vidcaps and such.

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I've since tracked down what I was thinking of.

Play247.com are selling boxed sets at their normal price of �36.99 but they have dropped the price of individual discs to �9.99 each, which is about the cheapest anywhere. Sadly this only applies to Seasons 1-6.

Oh well, I shan't bother Google then... :)

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I had to move it... :)

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Joincidence?

I guess she explains why Bobo gets married all the time.

Definitely.

Okay. :)

Hello? Human rights? ;)

Yep. :) Do you think he would hit on her afterwards?

Smil... Good point.

Eh.. I don't know. I think there are lots of "inside" jokes on this list. :)

And in the middle of mixing oatmeal and raisins, she'd have to contact her grandma and ask her a left-handed cooking question.

Hehe, yep.

Ah, I see.

Eh, I guess so. What song is this anyway, (if it is one, that is)?

Grin. Thanks. :)

Throwing hands and bats?

His old one, so change it to: Ross trying to seduce Rachel in his old band uniform

(Jack) Geller. ;)

He'd be fine. He's not as "stupid" as he was in 301. :)

Ooh, do we have Richard as a sheriff in the Wild West?

Where she would fall in love with Chan Solo. ;)

Makes sense. In a way, he looks like Rhett Butler.

His chances are slim anyway, but you might be onto something there.

Rachel can be very emotional, but she is the strongest of the Green-sisters.

Okay, then just say "everybody else".

Yeah, you're right. Any suggestions?

Oh, BTW: Chandler showing "drunk" Monica his dictionary

After 720, I'm willing to believe anything.

I don't know. I just have a feeling I'll LMAO because it's so silly.

I know. He deserved that award for his "don't you recognise your own mother?!" :)

Okay..

I know. :)

No, of course not. Why would he? He was the one who proposed in the first place... Oh, wait..

Oh, right. Chandler drinking lots of fluids after he and Monica started dating. Better? :)

"Be cool..."  :)

Gosh, I'm impressed, Tennant! :)

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[snipping most]

Tennant and Marita--do you *really* want to see everything ever alluded to, and every situation you can imagine, played out on the show? As to the former, isn't there anything you'd rather leave to the imagination? I know in most cases, I do.

I have been meaning to ask what this stands for. Rolling, puking, gasping out loud? Running, polevaulting, gobs of laughter?

If you're referring to the song Phoebe mishears, it's Elton John's "Tiny Dancer" ("Hold me closer, tiny dancer").

But Rachel didn't actually put on a skit in TOW the Fake Party--this was Emily's assumption when she saw Rachel in the cheerleading uniform, preparing to entice Joshua with her moves.

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Well, in the beginning we were discussing certain things that we'd really like to see on the show, such as how Monica ended up in Chandler's bedroom in London or Chandler's dad. Now, it has turned into a fun game where we remember all the old episodes. :)

Okay.

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know

Oh I see. In that case. . . .

How about Elton John serenading Tony Danza while Phoebe watches misty-eyed?

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Grin. Great! Tennant, are you writing it down?

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Err... yes, I know Elton John might serenade Tony Danza, but would the recipient appreciate the overture? Why is Phoebe misty-eyed?

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Tony Danza would be baffled and probably not appreciative. Phoebe would be misty-eyed because she thinks it's the most romantic song ever! ;)

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Lol!

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TT (another acronym for Mardi to puzzle over) <g>

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Oh, definitely. :)

Oh yes, and she agrees that Bobo was on a break.

As a good ratings stunt, they could cast Melissa Joan Hart as the eldest Green girl, (it's so awkward not having this basic information), with her sisters Elizabeth Hart as Rachel Green, and Emily Hart as Jill Green.

Hehe - but the amazing thing is that after Monica says that, Joey's reply is that they will eat at the sink...

I dunno really, probably. Somewhere in the movie "Bound", one of the gangsters is called a stronzo by his boss, and he takes it fairly well.

Okay, I've changed that one.

Okay, but what if we make it a little easier with...

Dick & Yasmine inviting the guys to sit at the patio table, and eat.

And since Frances is dead, Phoebe has to look upwards. When Rachel points out that she is looking in the wrong direction, Phoebe patiently explains that she was asking the spirit of the old Indian woman to go fetch her.

Okay, so how about...

Rachel gesturing to Paolo that he has to pay for breast implants.

Mardi has already answered this. Thanks, Mardi.

Lol, could be.

Okay, it's done.

Agreed.

Not exactly, we have...

Richard Burke as the sheriff of Dodge City.

Hee-hee-hee, this is such fun. Okay, so far it's...

Ross Skywalker rescuing Phoebe from Darth Jack.

..but we still have room for a SW name for Phoebe, up to 20 letters long.

RPGOL!!!!! BRILLIANT!!! So how about...

Princess Monica falling for Chan Solo in a galaxy far, far away.

..and I'm still laughing at "Chan Solo". :-)

Oh, yes - and Ross would be the reincarnation of Ashley Wilkes.

Yeah. Shall I leave it in, or take it out?

That's right, but I think it can still go in, if you want.

Okay. That's probably what Rachel imagines, anyway.

Well, your next one shows promise...

Ooh, intriguing. This is the dictionary with the technical definition of "goofing around", yes? And it was not long after she first started going out with him. But can we do better than "drunk" in quotes?

Awww... never mind. :)

Okay then, I'll put it in.

Yes indeed.

Yes, now we are below 724 spoiler space, we can see this as a hint.

Much better, but if you don't mind I've tweaked it to...

Chandler drinking plenty of fluids after he & Monica started dating.

Exactly.

We've had lip-readers working on it. It went into the list, though.

Okay, so...

Rachel stealing the Soapie award from Joey, and where she hid it.

Funnily enough no, and anyway I reckon that Monica will not end up like her mother if she remains in such a supportive environment.

Lol

Okay, so how about...

Phoebe winning a Nobel Peace Prize for massages at the UN building. Neil Simon writing "Reservations at Eight" for Phoebe Buffay. Phoebe the Tony award winning actress, hosting Saturday Night Live. Phoebe visiting David in Minsk, after receiving her Nobel prize.

..of course if you want the story to end differently, you simply swap the last two around.

Lol, my turn to ask if it's joincidence.

Yes, at least another nine.

Well, exactly. This was the scene that sprang to mind when they laughed at Ross in the finale. When I first heard the brotherly warning, I took him at face value, and thought it was a good bit of straight drama.

In S5-15 Joey & Ross were arguing over who should be godfather to Monica & Chandler's kids (BTW in Britain a child has *three* godparents, two of whom are the same gender as the child, so there would be less conflict), so Monica objected that they were getting a few steps ahead and Chandler backed her up with a metaphor of big zero gravity moon steps. This gave Rachel the idea of the greatest wedding gift to get them, and Phoebe asked to join in with her, since she couldn't think of anything.

Yep, but at least *he* doesn't claim to be a scientist...

Good idea.

Because well, y'know...

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"Take that," according to an internet acronym dictionary I checked.

I've also seen "top ten," "technical test," "thrombin time," "tetanus toxoid," "top ten," "technical transfer." At Salon.com, it stands for "table talk." I suppose it could mean "ta ta."

So, which did you mean?

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None of those, it means "thankyou very much". <g>

And just a minor point, SIA, is that an American thing to put the punctuation on the wrong side of the quotes? :)

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(Marita

And what is it spelled out in words (I'm assuming Norwegian)?

Well, here we don't consider it "wrong," but, yes, the rules are different. Commas and periods always* go inside the quotation marks (aka "inverted commas," yes?), colons and semi-colons go on the outside, and for question marks and exclamation points, it depends on whether that punctuation is part of the quote or not. If you're quoting someone's question, for example, you might write:

He asked her, "What are you doing here?"

But if the question is not a part of the quote, you might write:

What is the meaning of "SIA"? ;)

Same for the exclamation point:

"Keep out!" read the sign on the club-house door.

I can't believe you said "no"!

*But then there are special rules if you're using MLA (Modern Language Association) documentation, where you follow a quotation with a parenthetical insert indicating page number:

"The novel captures this contrast between human commitment and Tralfamadorian detachment" (Hill 50).

"In both the novel and the film, the key issue is Dresden: can we ignore the death of 135,000 innocent human beings?" (51).

"There, make them freeze . . . once and for all! . . . So that they won't disappear anymore!" ( _Slaughterhouse-Five_ 21).

The narrative of _Foucault's Pendulum_ begins with "That was when I saw the Pendulum" (3), and from there on things become strange.

(Semi-colon and colon would follow suit: ["Pendulum" (3);], ["Pendulum" (3):])

Well, that was probably a more extensive reply than you really wanted--sorry about that! ;)

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Whoops--those citations attributed to "Hill" should have been "Parshall"--sorry about that!

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And I've just noticed you sneaked in a question about SIA - it means Sorry In Advance.

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I can be pretty sneaky sometimes. ;)

Anyway, NOTATF (No offense taken after the fact)--okay, I admit I made that up just now.

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Hey, no fair--at least I glossed mine for you!!! :)

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ATB should be in your glossary as All The Best

MTU was in what you just said as Made That Up

A is for Acronym, which is what we're discussing

So only a little lateral thought should give you

All The Best People Make Up Their Own Acronyms. ;)

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It was too late at night--my brain was tired. TT, though. ;)

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VSG - would you like a copy of my glossary, now over 1500 acronyms?

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Sure, pass it on over! :)

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Okay, it's in the mail.

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I've just done you a nice list, which you will probably read before this.

Well, I was taught that quotation marks enclose what one is quoting, so I agree with what you say about question marks and exclamation points, but differ about this stupid hidebound rule concerning commas and the rest.

You have been forced to say that TT is an acronym for "top ten," as though the second T stood for "tee ee en comma". This seems to me like the blind following of a rule designed for people who don't know what they're doing.

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Oh well, whether one agrees or not, those are the rules in standard American English. There was recently a long thread on this issue on one of the English usage newsgroups (I don't remember whether it was alt.usage.english or alt.english.usage). Most people, I suppose, prefer the system they've been taught in school. I understand the logic behind the UK rules, but if you follow them in the U.S., it's considered incorrect (and in school it'll be marked wrong).

As for they "why" behind it, I don't think it had anything to do with making rules for people who don't know what they're doing. One explanation I've read is that it had something to do with moveable type--periods and commas outside of the quotation marks were somehow more troublesome than inside. It's been a while, so I'm not too sure about the details.

Hey, if nothing else, it gives you an immediate clue that the writer is from the U.S. (if there weren't any "colors" or "neighbors"--or other spelling differences involved). ;)

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It's probably like your arcane "two spaces after a period rule".

Isn't it about time that America moved into the 20th century at least?

I suppose, but you can usually tell from the email address.

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Yes, probably--good call. ;)

I guess you noticed that I do this. It's actually falling out of favor, but I still do it out of habit. Pounding those two spaces at the end of a sentence just has this nice sense of finality, and old habits do die hard.

Maybe we will, kicking and screaming, in another 100 years!

But that's not very sporting, and doesn't help you with ex-patriates or with students studying abroad. ;)

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Smil.

Don't worry, my sister still does it, and she gets annoyed if I point out that she's not using a typewriter, but a WYSIWYG word processor and a printer that creates proportionally space text. She says that how she was taught to type in high school.

Lol :)

Well there you go, the danger of expats & students *is* the sport!

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Yup, that's how it got drummed into my head, too--typing class in high school. :)

Heh heh.

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Tusen takk.

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Lol! She knows now, though!

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Thought so.

Why would she do that?

I've only seen Melissa, but that will work.

He's kind, isn't he? :)

Perhaps he would be so impressed by her, that he would fall in love with her.

Yep.

LOL!!

Yep. "Friends" Goes To Hollywood.

Oh, well, I guess that's good enough.

Lol!

Phoebba the Hutt? I'm not a SW fan, so I don't know really.

Good. :)

Absolutely. Very weak and devastated when tragedy hits, but also very lovable.

Put it on the list the day after the nominations are announced. That way you won't be ruining his chances in real life. :)

Yeah, I think so.

Lightheaded?

Absolutely.

Sure.

Did Rachel say anything to Joey when he was swearing?

I bet she wouldn't hide it under her pillow!

Yeah, I know. You've said that earlier, and I reckon you're right.

Yep.

Sweeps...

Agreed.

Absolutely.

Ah... Perhaps she'd work together with David in Minsk, and later they would receive the Nobel prize for their work.

That movie is still scary when you watch it for the second time.

Grin.

Yep, but then everybody started laughing. :)

We usually have four or six godparents. Anyway, I see what you mean. :)

No, he's rather honest about his job, it's just that he doesn't want to talk about it that much.

Yep.

That's a difficult one. Can't we just say that Chandler joined a gym in 601 and is now so strong that he can beat the big tree? Therefore, Richard gets Screechy Monica and Chandler gets the Lovely Monica.

I didn't quite get it at first.

Well, PGOF.

But Phoebe was there for him.... ;)

Let's hope so.

Why didn't she show up in that outfit on Thanksgiving 2000?

He probably did.

I just hope Chandler and Joey dropped by to help Ross since they know how to throw a party...

RPGOL! :)

Weeeeeeell...

Stasi investigating Phoebe's criminal friends?

Grin.

Yep.

Oh, sure. :)

I'm sorry. That should have read: He would have lifted that couch singlehandedly.

Yep. Perhaps he'll let another Green spill on his carpet later in season 8.

Haha!

That's our Joey!

Hehe.

Sounds like a great computer model..

Hehe. Great!

Or course not.

Yep, every weeknight on one of the cablechannels. I haven't watched that many though. I just remember some of the sketches, e.g. the silly walk, two women talking about Jean Paul Sartre at the laundry, the Spanish inquisition etc.

Would this mean that she thinks of herself as the Beauty?

Agreed.

Nope. The 298 times.

Ah. We don't have Ben & Jerry, so...

Mr Treeger.

Ah, I see.

Oh...

I agree! I thought the scene was good enough as it was! Ross ruined the moment.

Yeah, I know, I'm just saying that it sounds rather tricky to be found guilty of a crime before she was arrested.

I guess it depends on the situation.

Oh, I see.

Rachel dated Russ in 210. "Schindler" was the only name I could come up with that resembled Chandler, and that's why I ended up with Chindler.

Ugh, that's the problem. I know it was in season 2 because I wrote it down while I was watching episodes from season 2, but I cannot remember which episode. :(

Because they were both very eager to protect the people's rights to juice.

Huh? I was thinking of simple orange juice though...

Phoebe wanted to give them that.

Yep.

In 219 Eddie found a mannequin head that he thought could be used as a bowl at cocktail parties. In 710 Phoebe showed the others her mom's skull, which Lilly had used for candy. I was just imagining their Christmas parties with heads with food all over the place.

Okay.

I hope not.

Yep.

Wasn't that my theory as well?

Both, I guess.

Exactly.

How many women look like Denise Richards anyway?

The geek-factor.

Yep. He probably bought one at Toys-R-Us or something like that.

All of them.

Wow, I didn't think we had that many!

Yes.

Good for her.

Ro-Ro? Sounds like a cross between Teletubbies and Pokemon.

Charlie?

I think Rachel knows that she cannot drink if she's preggers.

She would be a blue pin then, wouldn't she?

The big auditorium in Los Angeles where the Oscars are held.

Okay.

Ugh.

Oh, that's right! Where was Jake? Where was one of Joey's numerous girlfriends? Where was the father of Rachel's baby (if he wasn't there already)?

She probably did. I don't think she rushed into a relationship after the Ross-fiasco.

Awww... That's so sad!

I think she did. She had too much on her mind after Vegas.

And Chandler staring at the scenario in awe.

Kate perhaps?

Lol!

What are you referring to?

Lol! Put them on NYPD Blue, and they'll both run around naked.

She'd probably be able to have a good conversation with him.

Why?

Awww...

Liberte, egalite, fraternite... or something like that.

Boredom?

Poor Ross.

Why?

Hehe.

Thousands of dollars.

Absolutely.

Lol!!!

Her psychic abilities told her they were awake.

Hehe.

And that ridiculous plots might mean big money at the boxoffice.

I am *soooooo* surprised.. ;)

Why?

I think Joey would be excited, while Chandler would be wondering what was going on.

Bizarre...

BTW: Ben Stiller and Jim Carrey falling in love with Ross

and...

Ross starring in a remake of a Norwegian thriller

Hehe.

It doesn't have to be that many though.

Hmmm... Okay. As long as it dawned on her that he meant nothing to her.

That guy is awful..

And that's why Rachel has enough money to raise a kid on her own.

You wish....

She left her filofax, so who knows what the score was if it was in the filofax...

O-kay...

Grin.

Why the Mexican revolution? Her mustache?

Hehe.

And their grandma!

Oh, yes! Why did they do that?

Of course.

Something with grapes?

Chandler deciding he wants to be 007 and seduce Monica in London Why Gloria and Joseph hate the Irish and the post office Phoebe speaking on behalf of the sorority at Ms Philange's funeral Ross as the real Batman Joey entertaining the guests at Monica and Chandler's wedding Ross and Gunther discussing how amazing Val Kilmer is James Bond stealing Batman's thunder in London Ross smelling the NYC sewer system with his improved sense of smell Joey scaring Chandler by dancing Riverdance in the middle of the sermon Ross the Snowman and Monica the Snowman fighting over a football The Christmas trees visiting New York Jack Geller spending all his money on cookies for Monica Monica dealing with her cookie addiction with a hypnosis tape Rachel, Monica, Chandler, Phoebe and Joey living at a reststop Phoebe eating a bug in the middle of the winter The helicopters' dictionaries Phoebe giving Chandler a tarot reading Phoebe chasing chair-shaped cows Joey as Frank Jr's best man, and Ross as the ring bearer Joey choking on a cookie Joey opening people's drinks to show them that he can open a carton Chandler and Monica having The Night Ross and Rachel having The Night Yasmine playing GameBoy Chandler being abducted by aliens Chandler buying a vow on Wheel of Fortune Everything that Chandler thinks is wrong with himself Ross and Carol's wedding vows Monica's drawing of herself in the wedding dress Chandler giving Monica cans of tuna after their first night together Chandler kicking Joey and Ross out because of Joey's suggestions Chandler and Monica helping raise money with a Volvo dealership Chandler and Monica and their kids hanging out with other families Chandler and Monica driving around in a Volvo Chandler and Monica's original vows

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We'll have to invent some new ones... ;)

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Because of Ben. I believe she does her best to be a good parent.

TT

Yep, and it shows he much he knows her, and even more so how much the writers know the whole series.

I would like to see that: Paolo hopelessly infatuated with Phoebe, who unrelentingly treats him like dirt...

Smil.

Ugh yes, diet away the real woman, and replace with silicone.

Err... no, not really. Wrong image. Let's go for Episode II, and...

Ross Skywalker rescuing Jedi hopeful Phoebe from Darth Jack.

..check out the cast list, and you'll see why. ;)

I just started laughing at "Chan Solo" again. :-)

You got it.

Okay, at the moment I've got "Joey being dominated for an jemmy".

Okay.

Ooh, that's good...

Chandler showing a lightheaded Monica his dictionary.

..now can we tie it into the episode better?

And it shows that their hints can come true.

She says "Joey don't you, Joey shush..." and then covers her mouth.

RPGOL! No, you never know who will look under there!

TT

It's a ratings winner!

Okay.

Check.

Ooh, that's a big re-ordering, because in my scenario, Phoebe's peace prize inspires Neil Simon to write the play...

Nope, coincidence. A promo for the movie came on just at that moment.

I like the Simpsons spoof where Mr.Burns has all the TVs & beer removed from the hotel to make sure Homer will do a good job as caretaker...

CCA said after S6 that she'd only do another ten, then quit.

I know. It still puzzles me.

And troubles me, a little bit. :(

Why not five?

Okay.

Absolutely, which is a better explanation for why we don't hear much about his work than that he's been off sick for a year.

Well, first of all, Richard can count himself lucky to get Screechy Monica - but second of all, it's the two *Monicas* who fight...

How should I put it, then?

AJ, and Joey would bring the teacher a red apple.

Absolutely, halfway though Season 5, the episode after C&M came out as a couple, and the hinting is there already.

Yep.

Because she never really wanted Tag, it was all sublimation.

So Steve would be none the wiser.

Well, this is the whole point. Ross is shabbily treated by the others.

I'm so glad you like it. :)

It's true. The only thing resisting Joey was the wood at the hinges & the lock, so no matter how much force he applies, the door opens rather than shatters. But resisting Chandler would be the several feet of wood of the door frame, and all the brickwork behind that, hence a hole in the door.

Ah. Okay.

Oooooooooo! To what do you refer, missy?

It's amazingly close, isn't it?

But in the novel it was something more clever than a hitherto unnoticed door, but I don't wish to spoil any surprise...

Oh, I didn't expect you to mention the Spanish inquisition...

..anyway, "Wuthering Heights By Semaphore" was a Pythonesque landmark production in BBC drama, in which Heathcliffe & Cathy stand on opposing hills, passionately declaring their new love for each other by means of giant flags, much as Joey & Jen signed across Grove Street.

I'm sure she does. What is the strongest tool at her disposal?

Oh, that! Well, it would only have taken them 6 weeks to do it...

But you've heard of it?

Lol! Perfect!!!

Exactly. At least Ross kept out of the little shining women story.

That's why I want to put it in the list.

Oh yes?

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I hope so.

Yep.

Yes! Paolo deserved that! He was a real stronzo, so I wouldn't mind seeing him dealing with a broken heart for a while.

That's the way Tinseltown thinks the world should work. Fortunately, it doesn't.

I'll take your word for it since I thought Episode I was one of the most boring movies I've ever seen.

I guess you can write "emmy" now... :(

...while in the bathtub?

I hope this goes for other s7 hints as well. :)

Hehe. Thanks.

She cannot keep anything to herself in her apartment. No wonder she went to Monica's to take the pregnancy test.

Definitely!

Totally different story in my head. :)

I'm going to take one season at a time. :)

I don't think it's very important to the upcoming storylines, though.

Because there are supposed to be "couples" up there at the altar.

Yep.

Oh, right. My bad. :)

I don't know. I never thought that joke was very funny.

And make the rest of the class angry with him for sucking up...

He's not being treated that way all the time, though.

Hmm. Okay.

Baby Green. I'm sure he or she will spill on Joey's carpet by the end of season 8.

How can I forget? It was such an important part of Sliding Doors...

Haha! I see. Now that you mention it, I think I've seen that.

Exactly. :)

Lol! That would be rather impressive.

Believe it or not, but we learnt about Ben & Jerry and their charity programs at upper secondary school.

The context is always important in situations like these. :)

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Lets just hope that *he* isn't the father... :(

Yeah, but look at the pressure put on JA & CC to become thinner.

There's a pirate DVD doing the rounds with most of the boring plot and nearly all of Jar-Jar Binks cut out.

Yeah. :(

Me too... Eeshk!

No she didn't, she was living there... oh, I get it now, you're kidding.

Very wise. :)

So why do we have three?

So, who does the winner get, and who does the loser get?

He'd bundle them out of the door, two at time.

It seems like it.

Sorry for going all Engineer on you...

OIC!!! You got me there. Yes, I totally agree. :)

"Baby Green" sounds so cute, but let's hope it's a girl, and she's named after her oldest auntie & next-door's middle name.

Was it?

There you go, then. :)

Well yes, I suppose the Night Of Seven Times had a lot to do with Chandler's years of longing...

Eek. Unless you got free ice cream, of course?

Okay. :)

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Oh, definitely. That will be a lowpoint for Friends if Paolo returns.

Tinseltown works that way, but the rest of the world still has some sense regarding these matters.

Isn't he going to be in episode 2 as well? :(

;)

I don't know. Something to do with the Angelican church perhaps?

The winner gets the best one, of course, and I don't think I need to tell you who I reckon to be the best one of the two men.

Not the girls. He's been taught not to make girls cry. ;)

Hehe, that's quite okay.

TT.

Oh, yes, that would have been great! Especially since they "cheated" at the wedding and didn't say her name...

Yep. It was the phrase John Hannah said over and over again while he was falling in love with Helen (Gwyneth Paltrow). In the end when the real Helen was going home from the hospital, they met in the elevator, and he said "nobody expects" and she answered "the Spanish inquisition". They stared at each other and "the end".

The IMDB even has a version of it in their memorable quotes section (this is not from the end scene, though):

James: Cheer up. Remember what the Monty Python boys say. Helen: "Always look on the bright side of life"? James: No, "Nobody expects the Spanish Inquisition."

Obviously, and the bloke was too shocked by Monica hitting on him to stop it.

Nope. No free ice cream. :)

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Yeah, although a good idea to tantalise the audience might be an episode featuring all of Rachel's exes, titled "TOW the Father of Rachel's Baby".

Thank goodness.

I'm afraid so, he's already in the cast list.

BTW, Terence Stamp says that when he arrived on the set of Episode I, George Lucas told him that he'd given Natalie Portman the day off, so he pointed to a piece of paper pinned onto a post, and said "Pretend that's her". Stamp remarks that Lucas could not afford him again.

Okay. :)

He bundled Monica & Rachel out of the door 715 "TOW Joey's New Brain", while in 304 "TOW the Metaphorical Tunnel" he swings Rachel around as though she's as light as feather, even though his arm is in a sling.

I KNOWWWW!!!! I'm still a bit vexed about that.

Ah - another movie I'm still getting around to seeing...

Lol yes, I guess so. :)

Wie schade!

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If Friends had been another sitcom, they would post a poll on the internet where you'd get to vote for who you'd want to be the father. Voila! The first interactive Friends episode ever...

Yep.

Lol!

I know that, but in 404 he asked Treeger whether he'd ever heard of something called "Not Making Girls Cry". My point is of course that he would throw out the boys, but he would be so incredibly charming that the girls couldn't be angry with him for a long time.

It's Richard Crosby's fault. If he hadn't got hammered, Joey would have remembered his notes in his dressing room and said what he was supposed to say at the ceremony.

It's rather good actually. Gwyneth's accent is amazing IMO.

Ich weiss.

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Ha-ha, well at least we could have our own poll. Here's the Top 30...

       Barry Farber (101)
       Paolo (107)
       Joseph Tribbiani (113)
       Geoffrey Rosen (117)
       Dr.Franzblau (123)
       Carl (124)
       Michael (207)
       Russ (210)
       Jean-Claude Van Damme (213)
       Chip Matthews (214)
       Richard Burke (215)
       Chandler Bing (306)
       Mark Robinson (319)
       Tommy (322)
       Josh (405)
       Gunther (416)
       Joshua Bergen (420)
       Dave (502)
       Danny Tyler (506)
       Joey Tribbiani (511)
       Mr.Zelner (517)
       Ross Geller (524)
       Kenny (608)
       Ralph Lauren (608)
       Jack Geller (609)
       Eldad (619)
       Patrick (619)
       Sebastian (619)
       Paul Stephens (621)
       Tag Jones (708)

I know a quite a few stories about him.

Terence Stamp is left-handed, but in "Far from the Madding Crowd", for authenticity in the scene where Troy demonstrates his swordsmanship to Bathsheba, he was made to learn to use the cavalry sabre with his right hand. Though he became quite proficient, the director John Schlesinger made him slice ever closer to Julie Christie, until the blade caught her right cheek - and this was the shot that was used in the film.

Fair enough, but even if he did throw the girls out, they wouldn't cry because they'd be too in awe of his masterful authority.

Grrrrrr.....

Or as Monica would say, "ICH WEISSSSSSS!!!!!!!!"

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I'm going to go out on a limb and predict that contestant number 22 would get the majority of the votes...

Poor Julie! That sounds rather scary IMHO. :) It was well done by Mr Stamp, though.

Okay, but I'm sure he'd be nice to all the girls and not throw any of them out of the room.

Nat�rlich. Ich weisssssss!!!! Besser? ;)

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Hehe, I think you're right.

Yep.

For sure, and unusually the movie is much better than the book.

That depends. Sometimes they need it.

Mais oui.

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And so many people would be thrilled...

That is unusual!

You know I don't agree with you on that one, right? ;)

Merci.

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And yet...

Ooh, try to read Ivanhoe... :(

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I guess the people we are talking about are pretty anxious to find out what happens at the taping tomorrow. (Eek! Spoilers!)

Oh? Being a big fan of Bridget Jones' Diary, I hoped the movie would be just as good as the book and live up to my expectations. It was just as funny, although they had not included e.g. the VCR programming part, which I thought was absolutely hilarious.

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I know. I'm just leaving Angel's Friends, and shall clamp down on ATF.

Most turgid book I've ever read (unless it improves after 3 pages).

For me the biggest shock was "The Witches of Eastwick". I adored the movie, then found the novel by John Updike to be far better.

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Yes, I noticed that you were leaving that messageboard.

Grin. Sounds rather awful! I thought the first couple of pages of The Republic were pretty boring, but once I got into it, it was *really* interesting. I don't think they'll make a movie out of that book, though. ;)

Oh, I haven't read that book, but how can the devil be good without Jack Nicholson? j/k

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I'll be back when I know who the father is, though. :)

Do you mean by Plato? He does have three movies out, "Sokratova odbrana i smrt" (1971), "The War That Never Ends" (1991), and "Wine" (1997).

There was so much good story that had to be left out of the movie.

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I see. According to spoiler readers, the spoiler for 801 was very elaborate and long, but I doubt they found out who the father is in that episode. It's too juicy to reveal in the first episode.

Yep.

Really? I didn't know that. However, the only way they can film "The Republic" would be by making it into a really long monologue. I cannot imagine some big Hollywood star playing Socrates, as he tells everybody his theories about the society, the family and the government...

IC.

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Yah - but let's not talk about it though, in case we attract attention...

Oh I dunno, Sly Stallone could give it a shot...

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On Wed, 15 Aug 2001 18:50:21 BST, Tennant Stuart wrote:

British/Anzac/Euro SPOILER SPACE for 724...

S P O I L E R

S P A C E S

S P O I L E R

S P A C E S

My lips are sealed and my eyes are closed until the big day in September.

RPGOL!!! Yes, he wanted more serious parts, didn't he? If anyone could make it watchable, it would have to be Tom Hanks, Jim Carrey or Kevin Spacey.

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Me too. Or October.

Or they could animate Plato with a green face & sticking-out ears.

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On Fri, 17 Aug 2001 18:23:00 BST, Tennant Stuart wrote:

Only a few weeks to go now...

The same way as an ogre we both know? :)

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Indeed. One factor in saying October is the premiere of "Survivor 3".

Exactly.

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On Sun, 19 Aug 2001 12:03:37 BST, Tennant Stuart wrote:

Absolutely. The premiere of "Survivor: Africa" is on October 11th. BTW, the finale of BB2 airs on September 20th...

I knew it. :)

~Marita [email]
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Oh, I was told S3 began on October 4th.

Hehe.

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On Tue, 21 Aug 2001 22:49:00 BST, Tennant Stuart wrote:

I guess they wanted to make sure lots of people wanted to watch the show. By airing the premiere on the Thursday when the episode of Friends is a rerun (?), they have an easy competition the first week.

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Has anyone seen an official schedule?

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On Thu, 23 Aug 2001 19:52:41 BST, Tennant Stuart wrote:

I haven't, but I assume they will show three episodes first and then take a break on October 11th.

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Could be.

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BB2 finale will be shown on September 20.

CBS hasn't yet decided what to show on Sept. 27, but maybe a rerun of CSI.

Survivor 3 will have a "pre" episode on October 4, which will introduce the contestants and re-hash the rules.

The first true episode of S3 will be on October 11th.

It may not be a rerun...

But no, I have yet to see an official schedule for Friends episodes for anything beyond the premiere.

Sammi

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Okay, will there be two episodes of "Friends" on the first week, and new episodes the following weeks, so *the* question is answered in S8-05?

Yeah.

Thanks anyway, Sammi. :)

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No, there is one half-hour episode of Friends on Sept. 20th. I am avoiding spoilers, but from general statements made on other websites, *the* question is apparently answered in 802.

In fact, they would be stupid to put a rerun on and lose momentum at that time.

I'll keep looking, but the NBC website is only posting listings through Sept. 22 or 23 now. They are notoriously slow about updating. And the TV Guide site only lists shows about 2 weeks in advance.

Sammi

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Oh.

Yeah, they tend to do that just before the sweeps...

Okay, well thanks Sammi.

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And I just read that someone who went to the taping thinks it was the best episode they ever saw. We'll see in a couple of weeks, but at least the buzz seems to be good!

Yep.

YW!

YW again!!

Sammi

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Hey, that's most encouraging news. Thanks!

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OIC. Well let's make it more obvious then, such as...

Chandler becoming jealous as Monica dates a goober named Chindler.

Oh dear. Either that will have to fall, or you must watch S2 again...

Juice was squeezed from a person in S2-02, and lemonade was a sexual invitation in S3-06. Joey complained there was no juice for the people who need the juice in S2-17, and Ross proclaimed that he needed juice because people need juice in S3-19. Yes?

Did she?

Gotcha.

Wooooo, interconnectediditiness!!

So how about...

Phoebe & Eddie's "Bring Your Own Severed Head" party.

Me too, much as some fans still yearn for this.

Okay.

Okay, it was *our* theory. :)

Please choose.

Okay, so...

How come Monica & Chandler decided to have a no-sex pact.

Joni Richards?

OIC, you'd like to see Ross when he was a real geek at 15?

Oh, not a real one then, a toy one.

Oh. One after the other, or combined into one composite person, or running back & forth to be each of them simultaneously?

And does he include an impression of Ross in that??

We have a further 37 characters to go into detail... :)

Yes, including our new suggestions we now have 2171.

Okay.

Yep.

I know, it just doesn't work.

Charlie Bing.

Well, this is it. Although we've had great fun considering other candidates, and it all depends on the actresses in real life, it is almost certain that Rachel is the one who is pregnant.

So, does this suggestion fall? It's up to you.

Oh. But in that case he would lose a blue pin at the same time.

Indeed? Okay.

Well, it was your suggestion, and that was the reason Joey wanted to film it. Note that Rachel described Joey's attitude as lewd.

Which reminds me. Why hadn't Joey told Phoebe about Rachel & Melissa?

Because he's not a gossip? Because he waited for Rachel's permission?

That's right, where was Nora's fourth husband? (Another blue pin)

He probably was there...

Yes, it's nice to think that Colin won her in the end. I wonder if Liam or Devon was his best man? Are Steven & Andrea still together?

I know... But at least it slots into five categories!

I think so too - another instance where she did not obsess.

Why Chandler? It was Ross who said it was so cool.

Perhaps. Wouldn't it be sad if she was the one, but it was not to be?

Actually, this couldn't have happened, since later on Rachel was trying to glue the fragments together when Ross came home, so she threw them into the kitchen. But I wish we'd seen him finding the fragments in his sconce.

That's what Joey asked Gary, but the cop said that it was a witness not a perp (short for perpetrator), and no-one talks like that.

Gosh, did things like that happen? I've never seen the show.

I'm sure.

Because that's what happened. Did you not notice? And then they wouldn't have accused him of being unable to cry, a year later.

I know, but only in a fantasy sequence, so she'd learn from it.

That was the French revolution. :)

The motto of the pacifist revolution would be "Smash Violence!"

Hmmm... but hoping for something less boring than boredom, sorry.

I know, he would patiently follow along, and she would totally ignore him, while pleasing herself to take him for granted.

She who fashioned a furry foreskin could turn Mrs.W into a cat.

Yep, another minor plot point explained... :)

It's gotta be, at least.

I knowwww!!!

She's probably as allergic as Chandler is to dogs.

Smil.

Ooh, good call.

I know. Sigh...

You never know. The movie was certainly worth a try, and Chandler's criticism once again exposes his occasional dumbness.

Yes, as soon as C&M came out as a couple, the foreshadowing started.

In 522 "TOW Joey's Big Break", Monica attempted to force Rachel to admit that her eyesight had deteriorated, by challenging her to say how many fingers she was holding up. The correct answer was zero, but Rachel concentrated and then said "four", astonishing Monica who revealed that "four" was what she was thinking.

Okay, but Rachel predicted that both boys would be turned on.

I know!

How come?

What? What? What?

Every 3 to 4 hours!

Oh. I was thinking that was very clever of her. :(

That depends on if it was what Monica meant by grabbing a bite or what Chandler meant by grabbing a bite.

Is he? I don't think I've ever seen his show.

I assumed a work-out guy would be a hunk.

Lol! And why Phoebe is so poor?

Yep, that's why I wanna put it in the list... ;)

Ah - that was Regina, not Phoebe. ;)

Well, she made a big deal out of picking it up...

Yeah, and the look on the horse's face!

That's right, Phoebe wondered if Rachel was meant to be Pancho Villa, showing that her education is progressing (since she was then French).

Yah. Any idea what she meant?

Didn't she only pay for it?

That's what I want to know...

Yep, she certainly showed that she has her priorities straight, in one of the best delivered lines of the finale, "It just got interesting!"

Yes, this needs to be marked with an asterisk, but we puzzled about this for exactly 8 months, (10th June 1999 to 10th February 2000).

Lol yes, but why "deciding"?

Wouldn't hating the Irish be due to immigrant rivalries?

Oh yes, and having seen "Scream 2", what the badge looked like on the front doors of the sorority house, or the necklaces the girls wore.

Lol yes, with special black make-up around his eyes that vanishes when he takes his mask off...

Yes, he blew that by turning up late instead of early.

Yeah, I wonder how one-sided that conversation was...

Ahah!!

Ha, but would it help him to seduce girls?

RPGOL!

Just imagine Joey's legs flailing about as if independent of his body!

You don't think they'll come in when they're hungry enough?

Err yes, except they're not visiting, they come to die...

Yeah, but not because he wanted to, but because she'd already eaten them. After that, little Monica had to bake her own.

Awww... that's what she should have done. :)

Did you ever see "The Simpsons" where Homer had a vocabulary hypnosis tape instead of one for losing weight? "In the boudoir, the gourmand metamorphoses into the voluptuary", he told a puzzled Marge.

Ooh, do you think that Phoebe would be their tribal leader, since she's the only one who'd know how to survive? But Joey would be in charge of making things, since he's so resourceful. Then he needs more wire...

It was in the middle of the winter...

Marita BakkenTennant Stuart

On Sun, 08 Jul 2001 03:42:48 BST, Tennant Stuart wrote:

Okay. :)

Well, I remember they were in Monica's apartment, and Rachel was sitting in the comfy chair. Chandler was standing between the chair and the kitchen and asked her the question. If only I could remember when it was!

Okay, I see what you mean. :) I guess my entry would be about Joey and Ross fighting for orange juice on the barricades.

Lol! Anne Boleyn would like that one, or rather, her husband would enjoy it.

Monica's.

I doubt it. :)

Yep.

The first alternative.

Hopefully, he'll do that if he doesn't take himself too seriously.

It could be enough, though. :)

IC. :)

As long as she drinks non-alcoholic beverages, then it can stay in.

Why? He could have two. Ross did.

I didn't say that it had to be *sexy*, though.

Because he had to focus on the game of chess?

I guess Chandler wanted several blue pins, but not at all costs.

I think so too. In fact, I think he was standing *very* close to both the happy couple and the mother-to-be.

Interesting questions. If only they could return to London...

But Chandler had an enormous respect for Gary. It was obvious to everyone that he looked up to him.

True, but I don't think she was Ms Right for him.

Sounds like a bit of a hazard to me.

IC.

NYPD Blue is famous for giving all its lead actors nude scenes, it didn't have anything to do with them being gay. :)

When (in 520) did he get teary?

I know, but that's *the* revolution, right? :)

:)

Aha! It's like the placebo-effect!

He's just a human..

The foreshadowing has continued ever since with both R+P and R+J.

Oh, gotcha. :)

Neither Rachel nor Phoebe believed Monica and Chandler's relationship was very serious at that point.

Well, if he was Cameron Diaz, he would star in There's Something About Mary and The Mask...

Cameron Diaz starred in "Head Above Water", which is a remake of "Hodet Over Vannet", a Norwegian thriller.

Ooh... Suddenly, Chandler could have every right to be angry with her. I don't think she did anything bad, though.

I've seen him on Ricki Lake and Oprah.

He's as far from being a hunk as you can imagine. :)

Probably why she has to have so many massage clients!

Oh, that's right. My bad.

Bizarre. :)

Not a clue. At first I thought it was some kind of underground organisation, but I don't know.

Yeah, but she could be admiring them.

The Americans didn't wonder for that long, though.

Why not?

Could be.

And what they had to do to become a member of the sorority?

Hehe. Exactly.

I guess he can make up for it at the reception. :)

Grin.

Hehe. It did happen in a way!

He could tell them more about how it smells...

I know! It would be hilarious to watch!

Monica and Ross? Never! The little girl inside Monica never gets to eat, so what's a few hours on a football field?

They don't know that, though.

With a light bulb..

Yes, why didn't Rachel help her?

No, I'm not a Simpsons fan. :)

Hehe. Exactly.

Yes, which is why I said it.. :)

Yep.

The opening scene of 318. While Phoebe is telling him about dancing naked in the field of heather, she's putting some tarot cards down on the table. Chandler is the one sitting closest to her, so she would probably be giving the tarot reading to him.

Yep.

Hehe... Awww... Chandler was never *really* afraid, was he?

Yep.

I know! According to 712, Chandler and Monica did have The Night at some point.

The bird.

Because they did experiments on him.

Just all the things he hates about himself.

Oh, right! Yeah, I'd like to hear them!

Yep. :)

Yep. I connected the Volvo and the Saturn dealerships from 721 and 417.

Eww...

Who knows? Perhaps she found out that Chandler had read hers and wrote a new vow?

Friends: The Series Finale

Haha!

Oh, that would be something for the Wedding Olympics.

They could have done that, but C+M were too busy shoplifting.

I guess we'll never know.. Not until November at least.

Apart from Rachel?

Perhaps she kept it as a memory of the time they almost got married?

The drunken gambler?

Ewwww! :)

Lol!

Grin.

Ross putting on make-up... Somehow that doesn't sound so weird...

More lesbian lovestories..

Hehe.

No big, scary centerpieces..

We don't want any wreckless driving now, do we?

Why wouldn't she?

Perhaps he was the one with the pigeons?

Why?

Awww...

Absolutely!

With the tight pants from 305?

She's lazy?

Aww...

Perhaps she has watched too many X-Files episodes and scary movies?

I can't imagine Joey doing it, so it would be fun to see.

When?

Pardon?

Pardon?

Lol!

Well..

We didn't see enough of it in 618.

A believable gay love story perhaps?

I guess we found out in another thread.

And why didin't he come clean in the first place? How could he think she wouldn't find out about her marital status?

I think Phoebe wanted to do this even more after 702.

This could be in the works...

Smil.

An occasional drinking binge..

Could be. :)

Eh.. Two Naked Guys?

Pardon?

Yep.

Pardon?

Lol!

:)

And if they bonded.

Why would Phoebe do it?

Eww...

Smil.

We came close to that in 720.

Yep.

Creepy..

Yes! He could learn something there..

Pardon?

:) Political!

It would be too communist to be shown.

Poor guy...

Eh..

They probably were.

O-kay...?

Hehe.

Yay! Thanks for that one! :)

Yes! What is that about anyway? The medical system is plain weird in the States (no offence).

Whose were they anyway?

Hehe. I'd like to see him making Tag's life a living hell.

Eww...

True.

Couldn't be that long since he was fine in the tag scene.

Yikes! What would Chandler do?

She was caught up at the North Pole and couldn't go home.

Because she wouldn't know about neither babies nor sports?

What about Joey? Shouldn't he be the one to realise that?

True.

How can that even be counted as a reason? :)

Ewwwww!

Yes!

Why Joey?

Lol!

Frank Jr Jr took them?

What ghosts?

Kids can do practically anything.

Hehe. I'd like to see Bing Jr do that too.

Several fans want to see that.

And how he got so many cardboard boxes in the first place.

Chandler's reaction to three drunken brides The Ross ship leaving the New York harbour What ridiculously expensive gift Ross gave to Emily Gunther wearing his Ross t-shirt Dick eating Ross's ring Joey going to Europe to buy a magic ring A puzzled Joey wondering why there are two glasses in the bathtub Monica giving the others potpurri Phoebe playing the guitar with her earrings The person whom Chandler was talking to on the phone at the hospital Chandler and Dan on a date Frank Jr's reaction to Frank Jr Jr being a girl Whether Rachel will be able to endure labour Joey stealing Monica's broiling pan Red Barbra admiring the poster in Ross's apartment Monica writing a book about clean kitchens Treeger helping Joey out of the trash chute Rachel hiding behind the couch after finding out that she's pregnant A barbershop quartet singing "Three Divorces" The dating barrel with all its levels The guest room destroying Monica and Chandler Nora throwing little Chandler into a pile of sand Monica wearing Porsche clothes Rachel taking Phoebe's essence Ross wearing a tight skirt to get free muffins Jill buying Phoebe a car Chandler and Monica doing karate because of their pact Phoebe helping Monica on the stock market Phoebe telling Joey to always ask whether his dates are married Joey proposing to Monica on behalf of Chandler Chandler hosting a charity event Monica and Phoebe fighting over Chandler Joey with a beard Ross explaining to Phoebe how much you're supposed to give in tips Joey as a pimp in Miami Chandler finding Monica's wedding book in December 2000

~Marita [email]
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Okay, that's in then.

Ooh ooh ooh! Entrigu�! Can't you whiz though the S2 DVDs again until something clicks? It wouldn't take all *that* long...

On the barricades??? How would that go?

He could bring *two* heads!

In that case he should ask Phoebe as well.

If it wasn't sexy, Joey wouldn't be filming it.

I prefer either of my two explanations. :b

Or Andrea could return to seduce Ross, and fill us in.

Ah.

And who is? A certain mother, vielleicht?

Eek yes, nasty kitchen accident.

Oh...

Check out 12:07 on the DVD. It's subtle, because Chandler does a good�job of managing to hide it, and only Joey is sensitive enough to pick up on it. Phoebe was obsessed with Gary, and Gary & Ross wouldn't notice if Chandler sprouted purple ears, but if only Monica & Rachel had been there to see...

It was the one with the nastiest aftermath, but most countries have had one, including England in the 17th century.

Yes, only in reverse - psychosomatic.

Indeed, we are all prone to flashes of stupidity.

It sure has, but I didn't notice Rachel & Joey until she moved in with him. Until then I'd seen them as remaining single for their careers.

Yep, whereas Phoebe thought that Rachel & Joey were doing it in S5-11 instead of Chandler & Monica (though that was an early foreshadow, and you could argue that Phoebe was prescient); and in S5-01 she missed that Chandler had fucked Monica which must have been absolutely blazing from his aura. I don't accept her excuse about being pregnant, for that should have meant she was in touch with with the Great Earth Mother.

Sorry sweetheart, but what has that got to do with it?

OIC. She didn't wear a mask in TSAM, though did she?

Ah... fascinating.

You got it. :)

I'm sure she didn't, but you never know when a writer will get a bright idea for a flashback, and revise her history.

Ah.

But would he make Phoebe work out?

At $80/hour she doesn't need too many to be quite well-off.

No worries, sweetie. :)

Smil.

It must refer to some film or TV show.

Okay...

Ross & Monica's grandma admiring them at their dance-karate lesson.

I know. :(

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On Thu, 26 Jul 2001 02:49:50 BST, Tennant Stuart wrote:

Well, I'm afraid I don't have the DVDs from season 2. I just have a couple of pretty lousy tapes where all the episodes are out of order. It's a total mess.

Well, perhaps they would start fighting in Anaheim for the people who need the juice, and eventually, they would have to build barricades to protect themselves and the tourists from the juice-hating government attacking them...

LOL!! He'd be the king of the party then!

I thought it would be nice if Rachel and Ross were his best "men" up there. Phoebe could get to be Monica's maid of honour, and everybody would be happy.

He could be filming it, hoping it would become sexy, but then it turned out to be just a regular dinner.

Smil.

Sure, any excuse to put Jennifer Saunders on the show. She's so funny!

Do you mean mother-to-be?

OIC.

I know that. I know there are peaceful revolutions, and there are terrible revolutions, but when I think of the word, I immediately think of a bloodbath and the Bastille.

It might be a result of that, yes.

I never thought Rachel would end up alone, but Joey's future is rather difficult to predict.

Smil. Well, Phoebe must have had some sort of powers to know about Joey, Chandler and Monica in 501.

Everything! Chandler made it perfectly clear to Joey what he thought about Joey's dirty, inappropriate thoughts about Monica and Phoebe in 518. He pointed out to Joey that Monica was his girlfriend, and Joey should not walk around thinking about Monica in lesbian situations, when they were dating. Chandler wouldn't enjoy seeing his girlfriend (whom he was having a very serious relationship with at that point) rolling around on the floor with her roommate as much as Joey would. My point is that Rachel didn't think that Monica and Chandler had a serious relationship in the beginning of May 1999, so she thought that Chandler would enjoy seeing them. Unless Chandler has a rather perverted mind (which I don't think he has anymore), he would not be turned on by the situation in 522.

What do you mean? She didn't wear a mask in The Mask either. Besides, the mask in The Mask was an old viking mask of Loke, it didn't have anything to do with energy.

True, but Richard is getting so old and boring, that they cannot start bringing him on the show again.

He makes *everybody* work out... Bleech.

I bet she uses most of her money to pay rent.

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Ilg. Can't you remember *anything* else, to narrow it down?

Anaheim??

That's what he'd expect!

Ah, okay then. Now all you have to do is get that into 68 characters.

I guess so, but why we can't we wish for a sexy dinner?

Yay!

Yes.

Yeah, but the worst years came after the revolution... the Fury.

TT

Yes, he could be written out so easily.

She knew Joey would cheat, and Monica behaved true to form, but she missed the biggie. And she didn't pick up on the starving birds.

OIC - well put, I totally agree.

Are you sure? Not even for a short while? I know the dog did.

Why is that important?

Aww. Poor guy. He's no older than Jack. Maybe Chandler should marry him off to Janice, thus killing two birds with one stone.

So, do you want me to delete that one?

Maybe. Probably she balances it all out.

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On Mon, 30 Jul 2001 02:16:34 BST, Tennant Stuart wrote:

I'm pretty sure they said the words "job" or "work".

Known for its oranges and tourists.

We so need a flashback involving English kings and queens..

Chandler asking Ross and Rachel to be his best men.

You may wish for a sexy dinner, but I won't. :P

Yep, Robespierre and all that.

But he has admitted that he wants children of his own (123), so I'd like to see him settled down one day. That couldn't happen until the last episode, however, because Joey should remain Joey until the end.

They were starving? Why?

TT.

Yes, the dog, Jim Carrey and the bad guy wore the mask, but I'm pretty sure Cameron Diaz never wore it.

The mask Cameron Diaz wore in 522 was an energy mask, and the mask in TM was just a viking mask. It's not important, though. :)

Yikes. That's a wedding for the TWWWS list!

No, just watching him makes me laugh. :)

Yep.

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Okay, this is every time that ANYBODY said the words "job" or "work", in a Season 2 scene with both Chandler & Rachel at Monica's apartment.

203 "TOW Heckles Dies"...

PHOEBE: You just abandoned your whole belief system. I mean, before,
        I didn't agree with you, but at least I respected you. How,
        how, how are you going to go into WORK tomorrow?

204 "TOW Phoebe's Husband"...

JOEY: Ahh, alright, alright, alright, I was young and I just wanted
      a JOB, okay. But at the last minute I couldn't go through with
      it so they let me be the guy who comes in to fix the copier but
      can't 'cause there's people havin' sex on it.

205 "TOW Five Steaks and an Eggplant"...

MONICA: I'm at WORK, ordinary day, you know, chop chop chop, saute,
        saute, saute. All of a sudden, Leon, the manager, calls me
        into his office. It turns out they fired the head lunch chef,
        and guess who got the JOB.

MONICA: Yeah, we switched meat suppliers at WORK, and the new guys gave me the steaks as sort of a thankyou.

207 "TOW Ross Finds Out"...

MONICA: Chandler, I'm unemployed and in dire need of a project. Ya wanna WORK out? I can remake you.

211 "TOW the Lesbian Wedding"...

CHANDLER: That's great. Alright, I gotta get to WORK, I got a big dinosaur bone to inspect.

220 "TOW Old Yeller Dies"...

ROSS: Well I'm sorry, I think about stuff. Ya know, I mean, you're at WORK, you're assembling bones, your mind wanders.

221 "TOW the Bullies"...

MONICA: I have to cook in a costume & dance on the counter. I was a
        chef at Cafe des Artistes. How could I take a JOB where I
        have to make something called Laverne and Curly Fries?

Now, none of those seem dead right to me, but please bear in mind that it is difficult to prove a negative, especially with the poor quality of the S2 transcripts. Anyway, here are all the times that Chandler/Rachel has said the words "job" or "work" in Season 2...

202 "TOW the Breast Milk"...

CHANDLER: What do you care? You're an actor. This is your day JOB. This isn't supposed to mean anything to you.

203 "TOW Heckles Dies"...

CHANDLER: (enters) Hey. Well, you will all be pleased to know that I
          have a date tomorrow night. This woman, Alison, from WORK.
          She's great. She's pretty, she's smart. And uh, I've been
          holding off on asking her out in the past, because she has an
          unusually large head. But, I'm not gonna let that stuff hang
          me up any more. Look at me. I'm growing.
CHANDLER: Sure. (To himself) My god, that's a big head! It didn't look
          this big in the office. Maybe it's the lighting. My head must
          look like a golf ball at WORK. Alright, don't get hung up on
          it, quick, quick, list five things you like about her: Nice
          smile, good dresser... Big head, big head, big head!

204 "TOW Phoebe's Husband"...

CHANDLER: Nice WORK my friend.

205 "TOW Five Steaks and an Eggplant"...

CHANDLER: I don't know what to say. I'm sorry that we make more money
          than you. But we're not gonna feel guilty about it. We WORK
          really hard for it.

207 "TOW Ross Finds Out"...

CHANDLER: The woman is insane. It's before WORK, it's after WORK, it's
          during WORK. She's got me doing butt clenches at my desk. And
          now, they won't bring me my mail any more.

CHANDLER: I mean, especially considering how tough it's been for you to find WORK.

210 "TOW Russ"...

CHANDLER: Y'know, maybe this isn't such a big deal. Y'know, I mean, the
          way that I see it is you get a great JOB and you get to have
          sex. Throw in a tree and a fat guy and you've got Christmas.

CHANDLER: No, I don't even think he knew. Hey, would you sleep with somebody to get a great JOB?

CHANDLER: It's my game. You want the JOB or not?

211 "TOW the Lesbian Wedding"...

CHANDLER: That's great. Alright, I gotta get to WORK, I got a big dinosaur bone to inspect.

212 "TOA the Superbowl (part 1)"...

CHANDLER: Oh no no no, she's a total whack JOB. Yeah, she thinks that Joey is actually Dr.Drake Ramoray.

213 "TOA the Superbowl (part 2)"...

CHANDLER: Susie Moss, wow, you look... great JOB growing up.

214 "TOW the Prom Video"...

CHANDLER: WORK on your music?

221 "TOW the Bullies"...

RACHEL: Okay honey, you really need a JOB.

220 "TOW Old Yeller Dies"...

CHANDLER: No no, seriously, Joey's my dad, Monica's my dad. I've even got some dads down at WORK.

223 "TOW the Chicken Pox"...

CHANDLER: I'm just saying if you need something to hold you over, I can get you a JOB right here as an entry level processor.

Yerrrssss.......

Hehe.

Yeah, sorry, I don't like to be awkward, but now we've lost a bit.

Exactly.

BOC, and I agree with you, but *if* they had to write him out, then he is the easiest to do so.

Phoebe, who is supposed to be so in tune with the natural world, totally forgot to feed Dick & Yasmine. If I had to choose between her & Chandler to look after my pet, I know whom I'd select.

Ah.

Where in which episode would you pin it?

Okay, thanks.

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On Wed, 01 Aug 2001 23:19:14 BST, Tennant Stuart wrote:

Bingo! That's the one! I remember it now.

CHAN: Hey, would you sleep with somebody to get a great job? RACH: I don't know. Who would I have to sleep with? CHAN: Me. RACH: Why would I have to sleep with you? CHAN: It's my game. You want the job or not?

The question I thought about was of course whether Rachel would consider sleeping with Chandler to get a job outside Central Perk.

I know, but how can we include the rest without making the entry too long?

He lifts right out? :)

IC. Chandler stayed at home to take care of little Yasmine in 321, so he'd be a sure bet if you wanted to make sure your pet got properly taken care of.

Either 624, 625 or 707. In all of these episodes they showed up in Monica's kitchen. I don't know really... I was looking for a certain connection, and that was the one I could come up with.

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Oh wow, I'm dead chuffed that I was able to help you find that! :-)

Okay, it's now in the list as...

If Rachel would sleep with Chandler to get a great job.

Okay, if we relate it to S7-06, and switch everything round, we get...

Phoebe winning when Chandler asks Rachel to be best man with Ross.

That's 66 characters, so if you like you can have "a best man", or you can change "when" to "after" or "since".

No, but his character is the one most likely to suddenly leave.

Absolutely.

Oh great, you're brilliant. So how about...

Janice & Richard falling in love after meeting in Monica's kitchen.

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On Mon, 06 Aug 2001 19:57:11 BST, Tennant Stuart wrote:

Hehe. Thanks for the help, Tennant! :)

Great!

That sounds okay, and it makes perfect sense as well.

Yep, for a movie in California or something.

Awww, what a beautiful story! And if she fell for Pete afterwards, Janice would get a totally different hat-trick...

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VSG

All part of the service.

Okay.

Or whatever. :)

Hehe, but I'd prefer to think that Janice had already played in the ballpark, so that Richard can be the third & last...

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On Fri, 10 Aug 2001 03:03:06 BST, Tennant Stuart wrote:

Ross's reaction to this would of course be priceless. Not only would he be jealous because of her new job, but he would be jealous of the two of them as well...

How about a former girlfriend who's now a damsel in distress on the DOOL-set in California? Would that be reason enough for him to leave?

Lol! What would Monica say to that if she saw the two of them on a date? Would she break their watches?

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He'd go ballistic, since it was just after Chandler's idea to draw up a list of pros & cons had blown his chances with Rachel.

Who? You don't mean Cecilia, do you?

LOL, but she's not possessive like Rachel.

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On Mon, 13 Aug 2001 03:03:13 BST, Tennant Stuart wrote:

If they had opted for this version, I think they'd been able to drag out the R+R yearning for a couple of more seasons.

<mutters some bad words in Norwegian, frustrated by bad memory> I meant Kate and General Hospital.

Yeah, Rachel falls for the guys that are already taken, while Monica falls for the Mr B's, who are not the men of her dreams at first sight.

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And maybe in the end Ross would fight Chandler for her, and win.

Ah, that's just as well, since Cecilia is in Guadalajara.

And Phoebe?

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On Wed, 15 Aug 2001 18:51:38 BST, Tennant Stuart wrote:

But I do not think this would have made him less jealous. On the contrary, I think he would have demanded that she quit her job and got another one.

Perhaps she's working with Robert Rodriguez?

She falls for the guys who are hiding a secret, which will ultimately ruin the relationship. (David, Gary, Ryan etc.)

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And lost her?

The actor, additional editor, animator, camera operator, cinematographer, clapper loader, composer, director, editor, executive producer, intern, mechanic, producer, steadicam operator, still photographer, and writer?

Oh dear, I don't like the sound of that.

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On Fri, 17 Aug 2001 18:24:37 BST, Tennant Stuart wrote:

Eventually, yes. He wasn't ready for their relationship at that point no matter how they had got together.

(Gosh! He's busy!) Yes.

The truth hurts... But when true love comes along, she'll throw caution to the wind.

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You're right.

I looked him up on the IMDb, and all these Robert Rodriguezes appeared, who all turned out to be the same person.

Please please please please please please please please please...

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On Sun, 19 Aug 2001 12:04:53 BST, Tennant Stuart wrote:

I'm afraid so, and Ross and Rachel need to be on the same "level" before they can get together again.

Smil. I agree, though.

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If ever.

Thanks.

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C4 UK/Anzac/Euro SPOILER SPACE for 724...

S P O I L E R

S P A C E S

S P O I L E R

S P A C E S

You have to be recruited, then spend years of training, before you finally become a top secret agent with a licence to kill.

Ugh! Hideous!!

Which hopefully we'll see, since David Crane has announced that the first three episodes of next season are devoted to the aftermath.

It did for all we C&M fans - after Monica sat up in Chandler's bed, all that wrong name business was seriously anticlimactic.

Ewwww...

In that case, sensible Joey will have gone out, and made them come in.

Oh. Yes. Awww... :(

Exactly. Poor Mon.

There is just no support in this gang!

I'm so glad you got that! :)

Ah - I've just checked the DVD, and in fact Phoebe is giving Rachel the tarot reading. If you look carefully, the very first thing you see is Rachel shuffling the cards & handing them to Phoebe.

Ross really got it wrong, didn't he?

Nope, he just needed to commit to the right woman.

Actually it sounds like they had several The Nights at least.

Okay.

Oh, got you now. I reckon she looked very nice in that hat.

Well, where does this relate to?

I've put them all in the list.

Ah well, shouldn't it be about Phoebe teaching them how to do it?

That's what young Monica did.

Didn't they sound as beautiful as Phoebe described?

Oh, so C&M would be renewing their vows?

Indeed. We need to know.

Yes, and with her experience in this field, Rachel would judge.

Ooh, do you really think so?

I reckon they didn't in Vegas, because in S7-01 Rachel regretted that she & Ross never had a bonus night, but as you say it will probably be November Sweeps before we know who the father is.

No, for we don't know if she did.

Perhaps she did, but then that would really have been theft.

Who?

I know, but that's R&R thought after Phoebe said it.

Yay, you got it! I knew you would. :)

Yes, this isn't a spectacular suggestion, but it is a scene that was in the Making Of documentary, that ought to be on a DVD.

I know, there were a few suggestions about that in S7, weren't they? What on Earth are they leading up to?

Lesbian?

Lol yes, a huge advantage.

Err... it wouldn't be wreckless, but it might be reckless.

Because what we had been told since the S4 finale was that she loved him, so does this mean than she no longer did?

I'm afraid not. Keeping homing pigeons is the antithesis of drifting.

Because as it stands, the joke doesn't work. From the moment we see her, to the moment when she throws the flowers into the air, is only 0.8 seconds, which is just too quick on first viewing to take in why she does that. Another 4 seconds to establish the point would have given us six times as long to see what was happening.

Yep.

It must be quite a list.

Those were Sergio Valente's!

Could be.

That could also be the Series Finale...

Is that why the fire alarm freaked her out?

Or does that show that she doesn't watch X-Files & scary movies?

Joey would eat them himself, to keep Chandler's weight down. :)

It happens all the time, but the particular instance I'm thinking of may be found at 04:45 on the DVD of S6-02.

Phoebe was dropping leaden hints that Monica should name the baby after her, without any success. In a parallel situation, Chandler told Phoebe he planned to change his name to John or Mark.

When Monica told her brother that she & Chandler were shacking up, he hugged & kissed her, but Phoebe got jealous & made them do it again, including her. This time, it was Phoebe whom Ross kissed.

BTW, the T-shirt that Ross is wearing makes him look like he's in ER.

Yes, standard dating tactic. :)

We know which one is Meg, but the other two aren't named. According to the credits, Karin was played by Tembi Locke, who was Valerie in "The Fresh Prince of Bel-Air", Luisa Dixon in "Beverly Hills 90210", Diana Davis in "Sliders", and Myisha in "The Hughleys". Stephanie was played by Alex Kapp Horner, who was Maureen in "Party of Five", Maura in "Seinfeld", and Lisa Harte in "Maggie Winters". Any ideas?

No, we didn't.

Why not? Although I was thinking of something more farcical.

Please refresh my memory.

I know! He was very foolish. And people cast aspersions at Joey. :(

Gosh yes, very clever, both in the same episode.

Fingers crossed...

The great dramatic moment of S13-13 that begins with the gang walking under a ladder to avoid a black cat.

Yes, Joanna did know her, didn't she?

Explains a great deal.

Think Ancient Greek athletics.

Biology for Dummies 101 - "Why women are shorter".

Of course, now we know the real reason Rachel smells coconutty...

Watch all the byplay while Phoebe tells Ross to be honest about his feelings. First of all, she bites into his cookie which he snatches back; then she drinks from his cup, but he grabs that away from her; then she lunges for his magazine, except Ross is *very* fast, and he saves it - only it was a feint, enabling Phoebe to triumphantly eat his cookie AND drink his coffee at the end.

When they're married, he'll have to be careful about that...

I KNOWW!!!

It's so annoying that "Friends" is shy about naming names.

Oh, yes..

I dunno, but she's the violent one in the gang.

All depends on whose it is. Denise's?

We certainly did, backed up with lusting after Cassie in 719, and making Monica all tingly in 718. So what does this mean?

Sorry, but did you really get that joke?

I know, this could have been a really creepy story, but it was just thrown away by the writers.

He sure could. Another example of his self-centredness.

We see Joey playing with a loop of string, and the Osage Diamonds are one of the best known diamond patterns in string play. It's great fun, so why not take a six-foot piece of soft cord, knot the ends and see if you can master the figure? With just a little practice the diamond pattern can be made in less than ten seconds.

The figure starts, as do most string patterns, with the cord looped over the thumbs & little fingers, with the other digits outside the loop. Put the tip of your right forefinger under the string that crosses your left palm, and with the back of this finger draw the strand to the right. Do the same thing with your left forefinger, putting it between the strands which are now attached to the right forefinger. Withdraw your thumbs, and pull the string taut.

Turn your palms away from you to make it easy to put the tips of your thumbs under the farthest strand as it comes off the far side of your little fingers. With the thumbs, draw this back & under all the other strands. Bend the thumbs over the nearest strand, and with the backs of the thumbs pick up the next strand as it comes off the far side of your forefingers. Release the little fingers from their loops.

Bend the little fingers over the strands nearest them, and with the backs of the fingers pick up the strands as they come off the far side of your thumbs. Release the thumbs. Bend each thumb over the two strands nearest them, and with the backs of the thumbs pick up the next strands as they come off the near side of your little fingers. Return the thumbs.

With your right thumb & forefinger pick up the string as it loops around the back of the left forefinger, pull it toward you and place the loop over the left thumb; then take the loop already on the left thumb, holding it at the point nearest you, and lift it over the thumb, thereby releasing it. This loop exchange is known as "Navahoing the loops" - a move that occurs in the making of many string figures. With your left hand Navaho the loops in the same way on the right thumb. An expert can Navaho both thumbs simultaneously without the help of the other hand, but a beginner had best do it in the manner described.

You are ready for the final move. Bend your forefingers, placing their tips down into the small triangles that loop over the front string across your thumbs. Withdraw your little fingers from the string, at the same time turning the palms away from you, raising the forefingers as high as you can. Allow plenty of slack in the string during this final manoeuvre or the pattern will not open fully. Draw the cord taut. If the manoeuvre is done properly, the diamond pattern will form. This sudden appearance of a pleasing design out of what had appeared to be chaos is one of the delightful features of most string patterns.

It sure is, and would provide some decent drama for MLB.

That's what many Americans say if you show them a copy of their constitution, without telling them what it is.

He'd gallantly brush it aside. :)

Perfectly okay for family viewing if shot from the chest up.

I know, so let's see it! :)

This would be revenge for her desk in Season 3.

Yes, she needs to put some work in.

VSG - it's a shame Seran isn't around much these days.

I know, it's about time they caught up with the 20th century.

We never found out, but they were more Monicaish.

Ah, I said that to complete the loop, but you're right, that would have been good. Maybe it will become necessary if Tag turns out to be the father, and Chandler & Monica decide to get rid of him.

It happened, we just didn't see it.

I know!!

Yes, but we don't know how much later that was.

Insist on filling out all the divorce forms himself, but with appropriate care & honesty to avoid antagonising the judge?

Lol, it was very tough that year, since many of the elves were tied up testing toys for the Y2K bug.

No, because she thinks that Chandler knows nothing about sports.

He did, it was Chandler who foolishly thought that the Porsche would be bound to stay parked since the owner had lost his keys, yet the priority would be to move it in case a thief had them.

That was a massive oversight, and when I first watched the episode I anticipated that the real owner would turn up and blame Joey.

How do you mean?

Yes, like bunnies... ;)

She was so foolish there.

To complete her hat-trick, after Ross in S2-06 & Chandler in S6-05.

Joey would also have to have a problem with his throat.

Yep!

No, he was still on the mat.

Strange shadows can be seen moving all around the apartment, almost as though three baby wranglers were walking right beside her, with orders to jump in & interrupt filming should she be about to step on a child.

So it would seem... :)

Yeah, but more likely to be Green Jr.

Yes, and although I'm no longer a huge Ross & Rachel fan, I felt that was the sensible & sensitive thing for the couple to do.

Yes, they do seem to have a ready supply, don't they? In fact, the show has something of a large & small cardboard box fetish...

105 "TOW the East German Laundry Detergent" - �berwei� 108 "TOW Nana Dies Twice" - thousands of Sweet'n'Los 115 "TOW the Stoned Guy" - he preferred the Sugar-O's 117 "TOW Two Parts (part 2)" - dropped cake/twin thing 119 "TOW the Monkey Gets Away" - follow the bananas

209 "TOW Phoebe's Dad" - photos/cookies/garage treats 214 "TOW the Prom Video" - contains prom & porn videos 215 "TOW Ross and Rachel... You Know" - was *not* P.E. 216 "TOW Joey Moves Out" - Joey licks & he puts 217 "TOW Eddie Moves In" - Joey is quickly replaced 218 "TOW Dr. Ramoray Dies" - contains the last condom

304 "TOW the Metaphorical Tunnel" - Milk Master 2000 306 "TOW the Flashback" - Monica lusts after Joey's body 310 "TOW Rachel Quits" - 4,342 Holiday Macaroons etc 314 "TOW Phoebe's Ex-Partner" - Mark clears his desk 316 "TOT Morning After" - Phoebe's painless leg wax 319 "TOW the Tiny T-shirt" - the only item in the box 321 "TOW a Chick. And a Duck" - Yasmine arrives

404 "TOW the Ballroom Dancing" - the Princess at the chute 408 "TOW Chandler in a Box" - Rachel truly is sentimental 409 "TOW they're Gonna Party!" - when poor Joanna dies 411 "TOW Phoebe's Uterus" - Phoebe gives Phoebe a puppy 412 "TOW the Embryos" - half-eaten cookies/the big swap 422 "TOW the Worst Best Man Ever" - Bachelor Bash 1998 423 "TOW Ross's Wedding (part 1)" - trips Chandler/Kleenex

502 "TOW All the Kissing" - 72 mulched & miscounted roses 504 "TOW Phoebe Hates PBS" - Phoebe's only home at age 14 505 "TOW the Kips" - clever Joey's secret cache of food etc 506 "TOW the Yeti" - fur coat/waffle iron & bug bomb/fossils 507 "TOW Ross Moves In" - Danny's liquor/Joey's little fort 508 "TOW the Thanksgiving Flashbacks" - good against cheek 514 "TOW Everyone Finds Out" - Ugly Naked Guy's clothes 516 "TOW the Cop" - desperately hiding the stolen pizza 519 "TOW Ross Can't Flirt" - Rachel is no longer selfish 520 "TOW the Ride Along" - Rachel's little accident 521 "TOW the Ball" - buy your quality show cat here! 522 "TOW Joey's Big Break" - Rachel can't distract Monica

604 "TOW Joey's Insurance Runs Out" - Rachel moves out 605 "TOW Joey's Porsche" - Lost & Found/poor Rachel/Porsche 606 "TOO the Last Night" - Rachel packs Monica instead 607 "TOW Phoebe Runs" - not nailed to the floor/Joey giggles 613 "TOW Rachel's Sister" - Ross saves Jill's little blue one

709 "TOW All the Candy" - Phoebe dragging her step-dad about 713 "TOW Rosita Dies" - Monica's not Ross's drowned memories 716 "TOW the Truth About London" - Phoebe kisses a tiny one 717 "TOW the Cheap Wedding Dress" - Joey carries a light one

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On Thu, 26 Jul 2001 03:17:24 BST, Tennant Stuart wrote:

C4 UK/Anzac/Euro SPOILER SPACE for 724...

S P O I L E R

S P A C E S

S P O I L E R

S P A C E S

Yeah, okay. Is "training" a better word then?

It didn't have to be connected to the alcohol poisoning.

So I read. Can't wait to see them!

Yep, I was busy picking up my jaws from the floor when Ross said Rachel. :)

Awwww...

Well, I wouldn't go that far, but they act rather peculiar from time to time.

Oh, well, put both their names in it then, although I think Chandler's reading would be far more interesting than Rachel's.

Why Ross?

Awww..

I guess they needed several if they wanted to share everything they had dealt with in the past.

It looks like a pizza-plate IMO.

721. He watched as Monica started to write her vows (or rather, he thought she was writing them) and started wondering what was wrong with him.

I reckon they would know how to raise money, having been members of the Brownbirds and the Cub Scouts in the past.

She wanted to punish Richard for breaking her heart in the future... j/k

I guess...

It's the big thing nowadays. Many celebrities (e.g. Celine Dion) have gone to Las Vegas to renew their vows after a couple of years.

BOC. And if she needed another judge, she could just call Barry.

Yep, in fact, I've always thought that Ross and Rachel left them a message that C+M never got. They didn't have time to check the messages for their room, because they were gambling, proposing and shoplifting.

Or even worse; Perhaps we won't find out until the baby is born (probably during February sweeps).

Good point.

Yep, but perhaps they completely forgot about it until they came home and found it in their luggage? (It would have to be in Chandler's suitcase of course.)

The man who told Chandler how lucky he was to have Monica.

Hehe.

Yep, I remember that. Wasn't there supposed to be a joke involving vodka as well? (It's been a long time since I watched that documentary.)

There was also a rather significant hint in 608.

Yep. If he became a woman and married Rachel, they would be the main characters in a lesbian love story.

I think so. She didn't want to get back together with him in 507, so I reckon she was over Ross at that point (601).

True.

That would hopefully be set way into the future.

Hehe, could be.

I think she does.

Joey should have done something about it in the last half of season 6 then...

Is that when Joey pushes her away?

Oh..

Oh, I see.

Yep, his shirt looks like the ER-shirts they're selling in the WB-stores.

No, sorry.

I think Joey and Ross waking up to realise they're married would be rather interesting to watch.. :)

I think it was in the 722 thread. We were talking about Bea, Monica and Rachel's tea parties etc.

Ooh... Chilling...

She knew Rachel better than Rachel knew herself...

Eh... Okay.

Ah, I see.

Lol, exactly.

Yep, and he'll have to stay away from her guitar... just in case.

I don't feel the need to know anything else about this issue. :)

They're trying out different storylines to see how far they can go in season 8?

A mix of 521 and 604?

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Oh, I think I've done that in the past, only we called it "himmelstigen", "frosken", "vispen" and "kr�kefot". The funniest thing, however, was to do it together with a friend, and make lots of funny patterns.

Emmy awards 2002...

Lol!

Oh, I know, I just wondered why you wanted to see that...

I know! I miss her posts. Is she over at umtf, or has she disappeared?

Someone has to make Rachel understand what a loser he is.

And he would of course make sure to use several funny fonts on the divorce forms...

Lol, yes, and IIRC, it was rather cold that year as well.

IC.

I just hope that men want more from a woman than just the ability to put her legs over her head. :)

IC.

Why is that?

Oh, I see. I'll have to check it out on the DVD.

Sure. Eventually, Bing Jr will do it, thought.

I don't know... Maybe.

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Wow! That's quite a lot!

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How about...

Chandler seducing Monica in London as part of his 007 training.

I was thinking about the gigantic tampons.

Yay!!

I know. One story was worth 3 episodes, and the other 3 seasons.

I've just put it in the list.

Yah.

Okay.

He cut his up.

Yep.

Miaow!!!

Of course.

Fairy nuff.

Lol, maybe she's as psychic as her nephew...

Phew, I'm glad somebody agrees with me...

Yep, but let's hope that Phoebe doesn't renew hers.

Yep. At least Richard got his gravy boat back.

That makes so much sense that I've just deleted the entry.

Well, David Crane said she won't show until Thanksgiving. Previous ones were S1-09, S2-08, S3-09, S4-08, S5-08, S6-09, and S7-08, so this year's should be S8-08 or S8-09, filmed in mid-October.

Could be. Why Chandler's suitcase?

OIC. What happened to him then?

I don't remember that. Check out your tape.

Oh yes. Do you think that perhaps Monica inadvertently awakened a childhood predilection?

Ah, but he married Rachel and became a woman...

Oh, good point. And in 511 she was happy to kiss Joey...

Ta.

Oh yes, and after you've lived in the USA for many years...

Was that when MP got fatter? (I rarely notice such things).

Yep, to get to Chandler.

But Chandler pushes her just as easily in S5-05.

Oh. :(

Joey could have JUST MARRIED written on his back, and Ross could tell him that it looks stupid.

Oh gosh yes - it was me who said it... :(

But this time, Monica didn't use an Easy Bake oven.

I know.

Yeah, and now we know that Joanna did not burst in when the minister asked if there was any reason why Chandler & Monica should not marry.

That all depends on how she pounds on him. Could be kinda nice...

He-he.

Could be, could be.

Not really. Ross mentioned a Mesozoic Mastodon in 521, and he got a job in 604, but that is nothing like the point. Think about how he described the Head of the Palaeontology Department... ;)

Indeed so. We also call it "Jacob's Ladder".

Ooh yes, that'll show 'em.

Because I want to see Rachel take revenge for her desk in Season 3...

She was always more at ATF than UMTF, and for a while I had to post for her, the same as I do now for Sammi due to technical difficulties, but she did post three times in her own right a couple of weeks ago.

Yeah, well it'll have to be Ross, Monica, or Chandler.

Ooh, I'm hoping he's grown up a bit since then.

Maybe she was abducted by aliens.

But of course we do, there's also breasts...

IKYW

Symmetry.

Okay.

Hope so.

ROSS: Y'know, I-I-you've done a lot of stupid stuff too! Okay?

RACHEL: Oh, name one stupid thing that is as stupid as this one!

ROSS: Okay, how about you flew to London to stop my wedding! Ah, how about you told me you loved me, after I was already married!

RACHEL: Hey! Wait a minute! That was different! I did those things because I am in love with you!

ROSS: Yeah! Right! (pause) You're right. That's very different.

RACHEL: Umm, I uh, I kinda have a little confession. Y'know this whole marriage thing, kinda my idea...

ROSS: Excuse me?

  RACHEL: I didn't want to say anything, but it kinda it just, it kinda
          kept coming back to me. Umm, when we were in the casino, er, I
          thought it would be funny if we got married.

ROSS: Oh! Well, I've got to say - I know I divorce a lot of women, but I never thought I would be divorcing you.

RACHEL: I know. I always thought if you & I got married, it would be the one that stuck.

(Rachel goes over to Ross, and hugs him warmly.)

RACHEL: Ross, don't hand in those papers.

ROSS: What?

  RACHEL: I'm moving in with Phoebe now, so you'll have time to recover
          from all your stress. Let's see how it goes, okay? And then in
          a year's time either we both get divorced for the last time,
          or we do this wedding properly in front of all our friends.

ROSS: (Sobbing) oh Rachel, I do love you, you do know that don't you?

RACHEL: (Comforting him) I know honey, I know.

It's amazing, isn't it?

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Who would be Moneypenny? Helen? Phoebe?

Ewww..

...and counting.

Good. :)

Oh, *that* piece of furniture! :)

Hehe.

Awww, I feel sorry for him, actually.

Hehe, exactly. And if the Geller family is just as psychic as the Buffays, I guess that would be another reason why Phoebe and Ross would make a great couple, right? ;)

Smil.

Absolutely, but I hope she wants to get married "for real" this time.

Oh, you reckon he and Barbara gave them that?

Thank you. :)

IC.

Monica would have discovered it when she was packing, and Chandler said that he hated packing, so he could easily have thrown all the clothes into his bag/suitcase and gone home. When they got home, he still hadn't unpacked after three days, which means that he could have stolen goods in his suitcase and forgotten about it...

I don't know, perhaps he sold grapes to Ross and Rachel?

It was something MP suggested they should say after Ross and Rachel stumbled out of the chapel. He said: "They're not so much dating as they are two bottles of vodka walking around in human form".

Smil. Ross was hoping to get a little sister so that he could unleash his real passion for women's make-up...

Oh, intriguing... ;)

Exactly.

Hehe, of course. I need to stay until it ends... ;)

Yep. He started gaining weight around 611-612, and then it culminated in 620 - 625.

Haha! Perhaps she got scared and wanted to jump away from him when that happened, but it is true that Chandler looks rather strong in the scene in 505..

Lol!

DFY.

BOC.

Thank goodness!

Bizarre... Nothing to do with Joshua's nightclub, I hope?

Pardon? He described him?

Which makes sense. "Himmelstigen" means "the ladder up to heaven".

Eh..

Absolutely. Phoebe and Joey are totally infatuated with this guy, and I have no idea why...

He has, but he still has porn on his laptop, so who knows?

More like reindeer and polar bears. ;)

Ugh. Men. j/k

Hehe, great.

Awww... Brilliant! The R+R-fans will probably name you an honorary member of their club...

The only question is whether they're recycling these boxes.. :)

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Oh, definitely Helen.

Phoebe is the archetypal Bond girl, where you don't know if she'll turn out to be an ally or an enemy - but of course in this case, it's both!

Exactly.

Maybe, but the story could pass into the background now.

What did you think I meant?

Poor guy. He's got a beautiful wife who loves him dearly, four amazing friends, in-laws who think he's the bees knees, a fairly easy well-paid job, a cut-price luxury apartment in Manhattan, and excellent health.

X Zactly!!!

Yep, and instead of "Phoebe", Ross says her first name...

No, only Richard (he'd just started a messy divorce at the time).

VSG

OIC - yes, of course. :)

Out of his mini-bar?

Oh yes, that I do remember.

Making her up, or providing an excuse to do it himself?

I know...

And then until the end of S6, she only had Alt-Joey.

Ah.

Yep, and she doesn't jump, she's shoved.

<G>

I still say it would have made a good story. :(

Ross in full make-up, Pheebs in a black catsuit with spiked collar.

ROSS: That was the Head of the Paleontology Department at N, uh Y, uh U!

You see, it's when stuff like this happens that one realises that there is some sort of sense to the universe after all...

All I can think of is that they're the two worst-educated of the whole group. Well, that and they both have OE in the middle of their names.

That was his sex-substitute before he had Monica. Now that he doesn't need it any more, he's scared to throw it away, lest the gods punish him for taking his good luck for granted.

Hah! You really do need to spend less time in Norway & more in America...

Thanks sweetie. But when I first published that, it merely highlighted how far away the plot has shifted from their heart's desire.

Recycle?? Sweetie, you really do need to go to America.

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Definitely. I think the rest of them would believe she was their friend, but she and Chandler have a rather peculiar relationship, so Chandler would have to be careful.

I don't mind that, as long as the writers don't decide to throw in a messy divorce... :(

At first I thought the Ross reference had something to do with 215.

Yeah, and he *still* has low self-esteem...

I still don't believe that, sorry.

Didn't they start later with their divorce?

Why his mini-bar? Perhaps Chandler and Monica gave him grapes in order to get rid of him? (He really wanted to hang out in the biggest suite in the place..)

The latter.

But she has the real Joey now. :)

I'm afraid I don't think many people would have agreed, though.

Sounds like they're dressed up as the Joker and Catwoman.

Yeah, I remember that, but what does that have to do with it?

It makes some sense, but most things related to languages don't. :)

And it's rather weird that the woman who understood the meaning behind "The Empty Vase", does not recognize what kind of idiot who's standing in front of her.

Ah, I see. 'Cause I remember he had it on his laptop in 621.

Smil. But I like it here.... And your wish will come true in a few weeks.

Have you posted that over at Angel's Friends?

Don't be so hard on them. I know that they're recycling garbage where I'm going.

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Oh for sure, but in the Bond movie she'd turn out to have a twin.

I'd guess not, but a temporary break-up could last from the November sweeps to the February sweeps in Season 13.

Ah.

He needs a baby even more than Monica does.

When Rachel marries Joey, they'll be the last two left.

If it began in August 1994, and lasted a year, then by S2-15 it would have been over for just 6 months, which would fit nicely.

Maybe he stole the grapes from one of the shops at Caesar's Palace.

Twisted. :(

I

Exactly.

Well, no-one would have accused the writers of a continuity error.

That's right, with Chandler & Monica as Batman and Robin.

And Joey & Rachel as Friar Tuck and Maid Marian.

So Ross would say that he had just been talking on the phone to the Head of the Paleontology Department at I, uh M, uh N, uh S...

That's why the world needs brilliant linguists...

Yep.

And it's still there now. But he's not getting a new porn.

Just as long as you're still on ATF. :)

I don't think so. It's from my review of 605 "TOW Joey's Porsche".

Tell that to TPTB.

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Which would work out brilliantly, wouldn't it, what with Ursula being an aspiring actress and all... ;)

True, but I doubt it. If they indeed break up, their relationship will take center stage again, and I don't think the writers will do that right before Rachel gives birth.

Yeah, wouldn't it be an interesting twist if he turned out to be the broody one in that marriage? :)

Yeah, that is believable, but I don't think "Phoebe" is her middle name...

Okay.

Hehe. Would that be his something borrowed and new then? Hopefully, they were blue as well...

I think they would have, but you would have talked some sense into them, right?

That I can understand...

...but not this... What has Robin Hood got to do with it?

Eh.. Okay.

True. No wonder Ross wanted to go on a date with Joan. Or was that because she was broad backed?

I hope not. He should know better than that by now.

I hope so.

Ah, I see.

That is true, but I feel the need to defend them. :)

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Let's face it, on the available evidence, she's far superior to Phoebe.

You missed which season I said. :)

I think we've already seen that coming, but Monica hasn't realised yet.

Why not? Lots of people are known by their middle name...

Perhaps they were old grapes, that made R&R temporarily insane.

Grin. You know me.

Grin.

He's not in it. But Friar Tuck is always eating, and Maid Marian gave up her privileged lifestyle to hang out with the peasants.

Got the joke yet?

No, because he repeatedly denied that she was broad backed.

It's not that he shouldn't, it's that he doesn't need to.

Fingers crossed.

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In the movie business or in everything?

<realises> Oh! <g>

Perhaps she realises it when she finds a baby jumper in his suitcase during their honeymoon.

Yes, but I don't think Ursula meant it by saying "Phoebe". Ursula was just trying to cover that she had no idea what her middle name was.

And even more drunk.

Yeah, I do. Besides, this a standard rule in all movies. The person is never dead unless you actually see him die.

Ah. I see. Clever.

Yep, but I never thought of it that way.

Oh, that's right.

That too.

Hehe. Exactly.

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As an actress. Compare S6-14 with S6-20.

Smil. S13 could be their "Year of Living Dangerously".

Ooh, could be tricky.

And how come we haven't heard a word about a honeymoon?

I think it's very strange that twin sisters don't know what each other's names are. It's not like a younger sister not knowing every little thing about her older sister.

But here one twin has been through a mind-destroying experience, and didn't even know her own age, while the other twin has not.

Exactly. :)

Oh absolutely. Have you seen "Sleepy Hollow"?

Thankyou.

I just wanted to hear Ross say it. :)

Yep, Monica is willing & able to provide much better porn...

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LOL! I should have known you would say that. :)

Pardon? I know you're referring to the movie, but what exactly do you mean?

Yeah, the only thing we've heard about their honeymoon is that Chandler wanted to go to Paris.

A woman who thought she went to her grandma's funeral when her grandma was still alive, could easily have forgotten her sister's middle name IMHO.

No, I haven't. Did the guy die and resurrect?

Grin. I bet you did. :)

Lol! No need to mark the scenes to play them over and over again either.

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There you go, then. :)

I'm referring to both the movie, and the year in Star Trek Voyager when everything went wrong & half of them got killed, then somebody went back in time and set everything straight, (rather like the finale actually).

Maybe that will still happen, but not filmed on location.

You're forgetting that Ursula had long known who her maternal grandmother was, while poor bewildered Phoebe still thought of her as being Frances.

That's not what I'm referring to; but I'll say no more until you've seen the movie for yourself, unless of course you ask me.

That's why it's on the TWWWS list (or maybe a TWWWH list).

I know, in full high resolution 3D, with touch, taste & smell...

Hah! Someone's been using the A-B function on her new DVD player! ;)

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I see, but I've never seen one single Star Trek episode, so I have no idea what that was like. :)

Adeline would be thrilled if they went to France. :) I know they won't, though.

That doesn't really matter. Biology or not, Frances was her grandmother, even if she wasn't Phoebe's mom. We do know that Ursula was aware of her real mother in Montauk before 401, but I don't think they've ever been really close.

No, you can just tell me. I don't have time to watch it now anyway. :)

Lol! I start thinking of Frances's funeral when you say that. :)

Oops... I'm caught... ;) It's so great to be able to watch my favourite scenes over and over and over and over again.....

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Okay, well the idea is for the 13th season to be one where everything goes wrong, and we all assume that it will turn out to be a dream or something, but instead the resolution is very clever.

Norway isn't looking too likely either.

Sorry, but that is *totally* irrelevant. Just because Phoebe habitually referred to Frances as her grandma, you can't discredit Ursula's superior knowledge of family matters when she says that she went to the funeral of her real mother's dead mother.

Okay, you cannot assume that Ursula was (or wasn't) close to Phoebe Abbott, we simply don't know, but we can say that Ursula found out who she was at the age of 13 (so the pair have had plenty of time to get acquainted) whereas Phoebe didn't find out until she was 30, oops 31.

Okay, near the end you see one person being attacked, but then unlike all of the other victims you don't see that person being beheaded, you just hear that s/he has been killed, (alarms went off right then), and at the very end surprise surprise this person was the actual villain.

Erk, that was low resolution 2�D, with perhaps a smell...

Yes, sweetheart, I believe you. :)

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Oh, I see. That would actually have been rather interesting to watch.

Unfortunately not. :(

Knowledge of her family is one thing, but her relationship to her "family" is another thing. I don't think Ursula has ever been really close to her family, which would explain why she wouldn't know Phoebe's middle name. Her comment in 401 was rather significant (Ursula: Right, okay, the one that lives in Montauk). I thought it was rather peculiar that she called her mom "the one", and not "mom", "mother" or "Phoebe". As for their grandma, I find it very likely that Frances was a part of Phoebe and Ursula's lives when they were kids. Her daughter had been abandoned by Frank Buffay, and if Frances had abandoned her too, that would have killed Lily (no pun intended). I cannot imagine what happened to the twins and Frances after Lily's suicide, but since we know that Phoebe has had some sort of contact with her grandma, I think it's very likely that Ursula didn't keep in touch with Frances.

Sounds a bit like Scream 3.

Ewww...

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Yep.

It's not easy coming to terms with having two mothers - and besides she was describing the situation from her sister's point of view.

I'm not denying any of that. What I'm saying is that Ursula has been in contact with her real mother for many years, so that when she says she had attended her grandmother's funeral, she is talking about the funeral of her grandmother, as opposed to being an evil witch or insane idiot.

Yeah, but in times of Yore.

Yeah, I would rather have gone to that concert as well... ;)

I know what you mean... :(

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If Ursula had been in contact with Phoebe Abbott for years, wouldn't PA have immediately recognized Phoebe Buffet when she showed up at the beach house? I haven't seen that episode in quite a while, but I don't recall PA having any sort of recognition of PB. At the very least, she would have thought she was Ursula, and telling PB that she is her real mom wouldn't have been so hard. I think Ursula was aware of her real mom's existence but had never contacted her. It seems to me that Ursula just has no regard for family at all. It could be her way of dealing with the traumatic events of her youth.

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Phoebe Abbott does recognise Phoebe Buffay. When PB turns up on PA's doorstep, PA fails to question the stranger who she is, but casually tells her to "come in, come in" while she's busy on the phone with a client. When PB asks her if she's Phoebe Abbott, PB is startled by the question, and then PB tells PA to be surprised since PB is PA's best friend's daughter. At this point any normal person would have come clean, but PA is as flaky as PB+UB are, and responds just like the Phoebe we know, by asking if she's Irwin's daughter. However, at this point PA realises that PB is not Ursula being ditzy (that's only as ditzy as PA & PB are) and she is evidently guarded, careful not to reveal to her daughter that she's been in contact with the hated twin sister, except that she lets slip that someone had told her how terrible things had been for PB after she lost her mother.

Of course, all this is somewhat underplayed, in real life it would have been obvious as you say, but if the actresses had portrayed it like that they would have blown the story at the start. They had to make the audience interpret what happened as the way that Phoebe saw, in just the same double way that Jennifer Aniston does at the end of 723 (halfway through the finale, but let's not talk about that without erecting proper spoiler space).

Well, all I can say to that is that Phoebe & Ursula are identical twins, and the differences between them are all in Phoebe's eye, (just as Ross thinks he looks & acts very different from Russ). As soon as Phoebe had any clue to her past, she went to a lot of trouble to track it down. If Ursula had been more traumatised by events then you would have a point, but in fact it was Phoebe who went through the trauma of living on the streets; we assume Ursula didn't, since she had all the family papers.

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I just don't buy it, sorry. :)

Ursula is weird, and will make an excellent politician someday since she doesn't care about people the way Phoebe does. She also *thinks* she is capable of "lying" to Phoebe, although Phoebe (and the people who watch) all know it's a big lie. An example of that is when she tried to hide that she was making porn movies in 614. Her lame reply "no, I'm not" was just as "Ursula-ish" as her "Phoebe!" in 714. Therefore, I'd say that she's rather stupid (Phoebe is far more intelligent than her), and the fact that she does not know what her sister's middle name is, is perfectly believable.

I think Ursula can be evil and rather stupid from time to time, so I don't find it hard to believe that she totally forgot whose funeral she was at. I also doubt that Ursula and Phoebe Abbott had any real relationship at some point.

BOC.

Hehe, definitely.

I'm sorry, but you misunderstood me there. What I meant was that they've been popular with me and my friends, but I've never had to lend them to anyone. That's one of the advantages I have when none of my closest friends have DVD-players. :)

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How can you say that Ursula is stupid, when they have the same brain?

Once again, Ursula is no more evil than Phoebe is, they're the same.

That's fair enough, but neither have Phoebe & Phoebe.

Smil.

Oh, DVD is enormously popular in Britain, the take-up is enormous.

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Sorry to jump into a long-established thread, but I've sometimes been perplexed by how adamant you seem to be about seeing Ursula as nice, intelligent, and sane, despite the way she comes across. Now I think I finally understand. You think highly of Phoebe, and you think identical twins are the same in *every* way--so you need a likeable Ursula.

But I think you're over-representing the sameness of identical twins. They can have sharply different personalities, divergent talents, disparate levels of intelligence, and contrasting degrees of likeability. I've met identical twins who are that different. Nice twin, snobbish twin; vivacious twin, quiet and studious twin. It happens.

I think viewers of the show are meant to perceive Ursula as oblivious to Phoebe, as supremely uninterested in her sister's life. Remember that Ursula was introduced on _Friends_ because LK was already established as Ursula on _Mad About You_, which ran right before _Friends_. The writers decided to acknowledge Ursula's existence (starting in 1.02), but since they didn't want to do a _Patty Duke_ thing too often, they needed a reason to have these twin sisters who live in the same city hardly ever interact. So Unlikeable Ursula was born. And every encounter that P & U have had has in some way reinforced their non-relationship.

If you really want a nice Ursula, she's got some nice moments on _Mad About You_, though she's usually pre-occupied and flaky. She does join the Buchmans for Thanksgiving in the final season of _M-A-Y_.

I'm guessing from what you said in a different thread that _M-A-Y_ wasn't playing in the UK when _Friends_ premiered? If so, the scene in 1.16 where Fran and Jamie mistake Phoebe for Ursula must have seemed off the wall. And Phoebe's line about her driven career-type of a sister who's a waitress, in 1.02, must not have been as funny.

. . . And now back to your regularly scheduled conversation with Marita. :)

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likeability.

Yup. :)

Patty Duke had a sitcom in the early to mid sixties, _The Patty Duke Show_. She played "identical cousins," Patty and Cathy Lane. Cathy was British and very proper; Patty was a typical American teenager. So every episode featured these identical cousins using split-screen techniques and doubles.

In case you're curious, here are the lyrics to the theme song (embedded in many an American brain ;) ):

Meet Cathy, who's lived most everywhere,

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Ah. After seeing "identical cousins", (note the correct British placing of the unquoted comma), no wonder you have strange ideas about Ursula. :)

Oh yes? There's an episode where Roseanne goes away, leaving her sister Jackie in charge. At first, she's her typical slobby self, but eventually she transforms into the ideal American Mom, and she sends the kids off to school & Dan off to work in a very stylised manner, ending with them all trooping out of the door as she waves goodbye. Was that some TV show?

I wanna see a flashback telling the truth about Randy Brown & the thermos.

I dunno. We've never seen Ursula on her own, only interacting with Phoebe.

Well, Rachel was just as poor at the job as Ursula was, and look at her.

Indeed - at Riff's she easily out-ditzed Phoebe.

This was in the days before I began watching the show more intently...

:)

Hah! No such luck.

We'll probably never see the crossed-over Sabrina episodes. :(

:)

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**correct *for the* British, you cultural imperialist, you! ;)

Nah, the "identical cousins" have no bearing on my ideas about Ursula. It's a strange sitcom device no one in the U.S. considers normal or realistic.

Now, is there something in British pop culture that accounts for *your* strange ideas about Ursula? ;)

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It's been a while since I've seen the episode in question, but I seem to remember I took it as a general parody of any number of 1950s family sitcoms, such as _Father Knows Best_ or _Leave it to Beaver_. It's possible that they were aiming at one 50s sitcom in particular, but I'm too young to have watched them in their first run; too undedicated to 50s sitcoms to have sought them out regularly on cable.

Heh. Me too, and I want it to show that Phoebe's story is the truth.

and

With the exception of TOW Two Parts I, where Joey and Chandler encounter her at Riffs.

Hee hee. Rachel *was* a bad waitress, but I think Ursula carved her own special niche in bad waitressing.

Oh, yes.

Ah. . . . .

Do you mean the episodes where Salem ran from one sitcom to another with his magic "time ball," moving each show into a different decade? If so, I think you'd probably be disappointed since it wasn't much of a cross-over; more a pretext for having a wacky other-decades theme for the night.

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I suspect that even if, by some misfortune, you were forced to write on a typewriter, you'd stick with your correct-for-British punctuation. And don't forget that if for some reason you submit work to a U.S. newspaper or publishing company, your punctuation will be "corrected" to the U.S. version of "correct." I'll stick with it unless/until I change my citizenship.

Hee hee. That's what I know. But you don't know that I know what you think I don't know that I know. . . . . (a small tribute to a conversation you're having with Mari).

Hee hee. And you have a deep-seated anxiety that somewhere, this unknown twin is sitting with five close friends talking trash about his brother Tennant. ;)

Hmm. Well the Bradys did have a ritual where Alice the housekeeper hands each child his/her lunch, IIRC--but I somehow remember the Roseanne scene as being decidedly 50s. Oh well, these family sitcoms tend to blur. Is there a similar history in the UK, or were these happy-home shows decidedly American?

Hee hee. Me, too--a good story that vindicates Phoebe! :)

Ah, well there are always ways to qualify things, no? To those of you watching _Friends_ for the first time in the UK, this couldn't have been perceived as an ersatz M-A-Y scene, right? At least not until later, in retrospect. . . .. ;)

her.

True--being in a job she hated kept her from doing the job well (BTDT!). But I've never had the impression Ursula dislikes her job. It's always seemed to me that she quite likes it, and that it doesn't occur to her that she's doing a less than stellar job. Rachel, OTOH, *knows* she's a poor waitress, and she is aware of why that is (she hates it!!!).

And see my above response to said above comment. :)

Oh, I know--I just thought I might be able to make you feel better. But I know what you mean about wanting to have the opportunity to see for yourself.

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As you've said before. But browbeating *me* about my punctuation is not going to change the way my country punctuates. Besides, I don't know why it even bothers you. I suspect it doesn't cause you any confusion. Consider the following: He told me, "don't go there," so I didn't. Would you really sit there thinking, "Oh, my, was that comma a part of the quoted material? How will I ever know?" Why not just take this as a small cultural difference and not worry about it?

Hee hee--how unlucky for him. ;)

I don't think that's ever run in the US, but it inspired the US show "All in the Family."

Nah, they could do something interesting with it.

???

You're welcome anyway. :)

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Because you *are* quoting the comma, and with 1 or 2 words it really jarrs.

Not at all, we are Stuarts, that's the point.

Which was a pale imitation. And it was called "All in the Family".

We'll have to wait & see.

Sorry, I could have put that more clearly.

While she was a waitress, I could just have said "imagine how differently Phoebe would react in Rachel's situation", but now she's in fashion.

:) anyway.  :)

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Century.

jarrs.

I find it hard to believe it really slows you down or hampers your comprehension. It's not as if you aren't aware of the different conventions in punctuation.

<Bonking self on foreheard>

D'oh! Right, of course. Do cruel folks call you pretenders?

I wouldn't know, having never seen the original.

And it was called "All in the Family".

Please stop.

Or wait and not see. ;)

Oh. How do you imagine Phoebe would have reacted in Rachel's situation?

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Century.

Well, I don't remember writing something like that, but in any case, *your* punctuation can be just as jarring to me as mine is to yours.

No, it's not grammatically incorrect in the U.S. Check any American grammar and usage guide.

the principle is

I know the principle. It's not the convention here.

With my academic qualifications, I am *required* to follow U.S. grammar and punctuation rules. As an academic who seeks to have my work published, I have to follow the U.S. conventions. If I submitted my dissertation with UK punctuation, my readers would flag it and think less of me for ostensibly not knowing the rules.

As an instructor, I'm also *required* to teach my students the current U.S. grammar and punctuation rules. Here is a passage from the grammar and usage guide I am required to use for the courses I'm currently teaching:

*Use of Other Punctuation with Quotation Marks*

Put commas and periods before the second set of quotation marks. When a reference follows the quotation, put the period after the reference.

"The Politics of Hunger," a recent article in _Political Quarterly_ discussed the United Nations' use of military force to help victims of hunger.

He said, "I may forget your name, but I never remember a face."

Jenkins said, "Moshenberg's style of writing derives from his particular form of wit" (252). - - - -

I *have to* teach that to my students. It's part of my job. I'm sorry if you don't like the way we punctuate in the U.S., and think it's "blindly following rote learning," but those are the rules here. Unless/until they change, I'm going to follow them. If you think less of me for it, I think it's a ridiculous reason to do so, but there's nothing I can do about that. I do hope we can drop this, though, because I don't think it's productive.

Hee hee.

Uh oh. Thanks for the warning--I definitely didn't intend to convey *that*.

Mm hmm. I don't expect they'll be doing all that many flashbacks to explicate stories the characters have told.

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detested.

Okay, I see what you're saying. But what suggests to you that *Ursula* doesn't like her job? Without comparisons to Rachel--who explicitly stated that she hated the waitressing gig, or speculations about how Phoebe would be in a waitressing job, has Ursula herself ever given any indication--explicitly--that she's less than happy waitressing?

PHOEBE: I can *be* a waitress. OK watch this. Um, gimme two number ones, 86 the bacon, one Adam and Eve on a raft and rick'em, la-la-la-la-la, la-la-la-la-la.

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Heh. Unfortunately, I've got bigger issues to crusade for in the U.S. ;)

Thanks for dropping it. Phoebe says we've been making Chandler smoke and dance around, hoping we'll stop bickering and guess that he's miming Shelly Winters from _The Poseidon Adventure_.

I guess our closest equivalent is "boinking." Does that have the same/any meaning there?

True, but I sort of wish they hadn't done that.

Mmm.  Yup.  ;)

Oh, I know--it just seemed like the perfect Phoebe line to throw in. :)

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Such as?

Hehe. If you angle a mirror just right, you can see how accurate it was.

I think we would just take that as bonking.

Incidentally, the only reference in "Friends" is when Monica bonked Ben.

Oh, I'm so glad they did. One item off the list.

For sure, but this is the same woman who claimed she could be a bear cub.

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Hee hee. Or watch the episode in a funhouse.

same/any

That must not have sounded very good to UK viewers!

I know you wanted to see that, but to me, it ruined my original impression that M & C had moved seemlessly from Chandler comforting Monica about the drunk's remarks to their ending up in bed together. And the idea that Monica originally had her sights set on Joey diminished the whole thing for me, even with Joey's comforting words about C & M being meant for one another. I wish they'd left it alone.

Indeed she did. :)

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Yes, but what kind of a fight amongst the friends would be necessary to push him into doing that? ;)

Ben.

Good thing!

I'm not sure that's such a gender-driven trait. I know men tend to be more visual, but it seems to me your desire to have various plot points that have been referred or alluded to play out is more an individual preference. My husband, for example, doesn't have the same insistence on having such things played out onscreen. And he's very much into art, photography--very visual in general.

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Well, when Ross & Phoebe hook up, Rachel is gonna go bitchcakes!

You could be right actually, Marita is equally enthusiastic.

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Hee hee. Making your case *and* planning storylines. :)

That's what I thought, since you and she have both been building the TWWWS list.

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But of course. In trying to predict what might happen, one must anticipate the writers' needs to explore new areas, not rehash old relationships.

Yep. You won that one, sweetie. :)

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See, your making your case even when you're not overtly making your case. Your implication is that Ross and Phoebe would be "new areas"; a Ross and Rachel reunion would be "rehash[ing] old relationships." However, you often say that above all else, you want good stories, and it seems to me the writers are capable of doing good stories for a reunited Ross and Rachel, if they decide to take that path.

Hee hee. Made me think of Monica's "I win" guy. ;)

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I'm afraid so, but that's because I speak from the heart...

BKC have already decided that a united Ross & Rachel are boring.

Ha - except I like you to win too. :)

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case.

Okay. :)

Unless they find another way to do it that breathes new life into it.

Hee hee. That's good of you. ;)

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Thanks.

We'll see.

You're welcome!

By the way, is there any reason why you haven't contributed to the discussion of S7-09? Did you somehow miss the episode?

And my review of S7-10 is now up.

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Yes we will. . . ..

I saw it, but I didn't feel I remembered it well enough to comment.

I know, but I'm going to have to slow down a bit with my posting. Things have become busier for me and I can't spend as much time. . . .

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Unless it's planned for Season 9, but Aniston quits the show next year.

Shoebox...

I know the feeling, that's why I'm squeezing this in after getting home and before going to bed...

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True.

My failed life once I start spending all my time watching old Friends episodes in order to reply to your posts. :P

Things

My dissertation, my students' papers, and prep for teaching beckon. . . .

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Sharp point.

And I've got plums to pick this afternoon. :)

Eek! It already *is* afternoon, I gotta go!

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:)

Yours sounds much more pleasant. :)

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It was, but I started late, so I planned to continue the next afternoon, except that after Tuesday lunch (our time) the world changed. :(

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I know. I've been in a dream state since. :(

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Speaking of dreams, stories are circulating that the disaster was predicted by Nostradamus, but with a friend's help we've been able to show that this is not so, the translation has been seriously distorted.

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What about evil twins? Stryker and Drake?

I think they're rather different. Ursula isn't nearly as kind and considerate as Phoebe.That's beside the point, though. My point was that I don't believe for one second that Phoebe's middle name is Phoebe.

(I'm afraid nothing you say will make me change my mind, sorry. :) I'm as adamant here as I am about my political standpoint. And nothing has been able to change that for the past five years. :) )

That's true.

My friends were shocked when I told them I had bought a DVD-player. "What's the point in doing that when you already have a VCR?" they wondered. They also asked me how on earth I could afford one. They stopped wondering, however, when they paid me a visit, and we watched movies for the rest of the evening. Now they're green with envy.. :)

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They're doubly fictional (not because they're twins but because each of them is a fictional character within a fiction).

We must wait & see... :)

Yep.

That's what happened to me a couple of years ago.

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We have tons of examples of this. You only need to turn on the TV and watch a soap opera, and you can be sure that you'll see at least a couple of evil twins. :) Savannah had a good version of this storyline, where a man was killed in the pilot, but the producers liked the actor so much that they decided to let him play the man's twin brother. In this version, however, the evil twin was killed in the pilot, while the twin wasn't that bad.

That we must! :)

Hehe. Great, isn't it? :)

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I know, it's a ridiculous clich�.

You rarely see siblings portrayed as one angelic, one evil, and yet they are more dissimilar from each other than a set of twins would be.

Oh, for sure there are some amazing examples in soap operas, except for "Neighbours" (the only one that I watch) that has in 16� years featured three sets of identical twins, all of which were fairly similar pairs.

Indeed. :)

Yeppity!!! :)

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Yep.

I know. There's a lot of sibling rivalry, though; who's more successful etc.

Gosh. I only watch prime-time dramas like ER (the soap operas air at noon here), so I've never seen many evil twins. ER has managed to stay away from these clich�s so far AFAIK.

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That's right, I'm not saying they have to have the same personality, but they shouldn't be gross differences.

Fingers crossed then, but there are many examples in the movies.

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There *can be* gross differences--I've seen it happen. Identical twins might have begun as a single embryo, but that doesn't make them replicas of each other in every way.

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be.

It's no so atypical as you assume. Your whole argument for Ursula not being as bad as Phoebe thinks she is--nor as bad as she's portrayed on the show (based on your assumption that we're seeing her through Phoebe's lens--is that she and Phoebe are identical twins, and identical twins are almost certainly the same or nearly the same in every way, from personality and temperament on.

I don't think the writers expect us to disbelieve what we've seen about Ursula based on assumptions regarding twins' sameness. In fact, I think it's arguable that they've been playing with the good twin/evil twin conceit. Ursula is not, of course, evil, but she's certainly indifferent to Phoebe and prone to doing insensitive things, such as selling Phoebe's birth certificate and using Phoebe's name as a porn screen name. Why can you not concede that we are not meant to think Ursula and Phoebe are the same or very similar?

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You were arguing not long ago that Phoebe was prone to doing insensitive things herself. And, (as far as we know), Ursula is not guilty of assault with a deadly weapon; resisting arrest; breaking & entering; carrying a concealed weapon; fraud, embezzlement; impersonating a police officer; suspicion of prostitution; breaking into a motor vehicle; vandalism of fire prevention equipment; using a mobile phone without authorisation; or violating Section 12 Paragraph 7 of the criminal code... ;)

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Ah, look at you, using comments I posted before against me now. I can't help but admire that. ;)

However, you might remember that I ultimately conceded that most of the time, Phoebe is caring and supportive--and that the moments I perceived her as being nasty or insensitive were the exceptions. As for Ursula, we've only seen her being insensitive--in contrast to Phoebe's attempts to reach out to her by letting her know about new (to Phoebe) family information and to share birthday greetings.

Hey, here's a theory we can try out. What if Phoebe and Ursula's personalities are mirror images* of one another? If Phoebe's caring and supportive most of the time, with flashes of insensitivity every once in a while, what if Ursula is insensitive most of the time, with flashes of caring and supportiveness every now and then? Of course, we'd have to see Ursula being caring and supportive sometime for this theory to gain ground. It's not uncommon for identical twins to mirror each other in other ways; handedness and mole positioning, for example.

*In the sense of mirrors reversing what they reflect.

And, (as far as we know), Ursula is not guilty of assault

As far as we know she's not. She could be guilty of worse. . . . Besides, do you see that list of offenses for Phoebe as having made her a bad person? I haven't had the impression that you do.

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insensitive

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Right, they seem to want to go light on the Ursula stuff.

I don't know--when he and Chandler met Ursula at Riff's, Joey said that Phoebe's Phoebe, but Ursula's "hot." What this suggests to me is that it *was* looks, but he'd put Phoebe in the "friend" category, as opposed to his "hot girl" to be pursued category.

Hee hee. How does it feel to want? j/k

I don't think we'll see much, if any alone-Ursula on the show. As I've indicated, I think the bad relationship between the sisters was introduced to keep Ursula's appearances minimal.

Not worse because of the porn, but worse because of the way she treats Phoebe. If she does have a similar list, it attests less to similarity than circumstances. But if she doesn't, that doesn't make her nicer than Phoebe ( see you possibly trying to have things both ways here ;) ).

We don't know this about both twins. This is what you want the case to be, and what you assume it is, but we don't *know*, do we? "Just the same" is your unproven premise. It's interesting to me that at times, you insist only what we actually see/hear on screen can be taken as "canon," but other times you seem to contort yourself to have things be the way you want them to be.

Here's a thought experiment for you. Put aside your assumption that identical twins are the same in virtually every way and that, therefore, you can't dislike Ursula without also disliking Phoebe. Just try on a different way of thnking. Try on the proposition that everything Ursula is or seems to be is not a reflection on Phoebe. See how that affects the way you perceive her.

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Heh heh. :)

My point was that although they look the same, Joey perceived them as looking different because he'd already consigned Phoebe to a different category. And don't forget Joey had a girlfriend who hit him!

Bwa ha ha!

introduced

I suppose.

And I'm just saying we don't know that they are the same; they haven't been presented as such on the show.

Hee hee. Bad Charles, bad! :)

Okay, there goes my theory. I thought I'd uncovered the reason you seem sooooooo invested in redeeming Ursula.

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Yes I understood your point, but that was merely rationalisation on the part of Joey. Ursula was the Phoebe he was allowed to have, but if she'd been at all nasty then he wouldn't have liked her.

But she was nice about it! The thing is that Katie was really cute, and he liked her a lot, and she hit him in a friendly way thinking that he was so big & strong that she couldn't hurt him. Pretty soon this became too much for Joey, but he was afraid to dump her, and it was Rachel to the rescue. (Incidentally Miss Frye complains that she was badly bruised when JA hit her). However, Joey didn't try to break up with Ursula, or run scared from her, so she wasn't nasty.

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Yep.

They are identical twins. And not in the soap opera sense.

His name isn't Charles... :)

If it's any help, I really disliked Phoebe in 610 "TOW the Routine".

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We simply don't know how she acted with him. We didn't see it. The way she dumped him (or failed to) was nasty, and it didn't take long to get to that point. I'm not suggesting she oozes with evil 24/7, but we've been given nothing tangible to counteract the way we've seen her treat Phoebe.

Joey didn't think it was cute. The others thought it was cute--at least when they first witnessed it.

Pretty soon

Maybe JA hated _Punky Brewster_!

However, Joey didn't try to

He had sex with her, enjoyed that, and next thing we knew she was done with him. It often takes people a while before they see the "true colors" of a romantic partner. Ursula called it quits before Joey had much of a chance.

same.

They're sitcom twins, with whatever differences the sitcom writers want them to have. The writers don't necessarily share your view of the sameness of identical twins. On the contrary, we have every reason to believe they don't, or at least are playing with the conventions surrounding fictional twns.

You didn't say his name was Charles? (And before you consign me to unanalyticalness, I checked Google, and you've somehow managed to use "twin" and "brother" in at least 68 of your posts--I checked a few, but couldn't check them all.)

Nah, that doesn't help. I don't seem to have made any progress in getting you to rethink Ursula.

FWIW, I'd watched _Mad About You_ from its beginning when _Friends_ began, and for a while, I felt somewhat disappointed at what seemed to me a rewriting of Ursula's personality. She was a minor character on M-A-Y, and a comic foil as the quintessential bad waitress, but she didn't have the unpleasant qualities she's been given on _Friends_. But I realized the writers for _Friends_ did not feel obligated to represent Ursula as she was on the other show (other than showing her as a bad waitress at Riff's in TOW Two Parts). And I recognized their reasons for doing so--they wanted to make it clear why the sisters are not close (so they don't have to have much Ursula).

At some point, the writers decide to have the sisters reconcile, and show us a whole other side to her, then great. In the meantime, she's the uncaring twin who can't wait to slam her door in her sister's face.

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But he eventually realized dating her wasn't a good idea. I'm suggesting that people often don't know that right away.

It was pretty forgettable.

I think you're carrying over the "nasty" from when I was arguing about Phoebe sometimes having nasty moments. Ursula, as we've seen her on _Friends_, is oblivious and indifferent--and both of those qualities modulate into insensitivity towards Phoebe.

Heh heh.

Aaaaah. So you see why I said "Charles." So are you now saying your twin is called "George," or are you going to say, "No, his name isn't George," because you've forgot to mention that George = James? ;)

There's a rumor going around that your twin is actually trapped in a tower, forced to wear an iron mask. <g>

getting

Maybe when they turn 35.

and

Well, she did her usual reflexive door slam, but Phoebe persisted.

BTW, there was a cute little moment I'd forgotten about in TOW Two Parts. Remember Marcel fiddling with the remote control and switching the settings so that the TV broadcast the Spanish soundtrack? At one point, Monica's referring to the manual and saying, "I think I know how this works," while trying to reset the sound. Go find that spot, because for just a moment, _The Patty Duke Show_ appears (it's in black and white) with Spanish dubbing. Phoebe says, "Make them go away--I can't watch." Brilliant twin reference! :)

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Even the most awful people can put up a pleasant front for a while, especially early in a relationship. So Joey's lack of misgivings does not really prove anything about what kind of a person Ursula is altogether. We simply don't know--their dating was completely off-screen.

Her refusal to deal with him at all was insensitive. It didn't take her very long to get to that point (a couple of weeks?).

twin

George,"

Hmmm. I probably hadn't realized there was a puzzle to unravel. ;)

Hee hee. :)

Of course, that would have to occur in Feb. of next year (unless they change her d.o.b. again), and the writers would have to acknowledge expliticitly that Phoebe had reached her mid-thirties.

Yes! That's Patty Duke playing Patty and Cathy. :)

Ah, I'll have to take a look!

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In my view, what she did is worse. At least if someone is insensitive to your face, you can rebut that. How can you rebut someone just disappearing on you--ignoring your calls and pretending you don't exist? It's an awful way to dump someone.

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Um. . . .  Okay.  :)

Hear that, Leo? ;)

Hee hee. Maybe, but then they'd have to bring back Tag, and I know you don't want *that*. :)

:(

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I agree. They cannot be *that* different.

Yep. I especially remember Leonardo DiCaprio playing twins in The Man In The Iron Mask. That was hardly the best performance I've ever seen... And even though it's supposed to be a drama, I'd classify it as a comedy. ;)

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Right, which means Phoebe hasn't been quite accurate in her depiction of Ursula - or herself.

Yeah, my niece rented the video, after we all enjoyed "Titanic".

It's not *quite* as good as that...

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Lol yes, that was not the only time the girls have feared what Chandler might say. And I'm amazed that is not in already.

What's this about? Ross & Julie?

Gosh yes, that's very clever! There so should have been.

But where do we link it, with S1-24, or in late S4?

As in 'Bachelor Bash 1998'?

Yes, the things that ducks do in the middle of the night...

That would be Germany, right?

Didn't Monica take hers under the water?

Made from the rose mulch?

What's this?

Ooh yes, who was that?

Why them?

He-he... that would have to mean that all three were girls.

Well, Phoebe reckoned that Rachel wouldn't be able to take it, but her own reaction at the start of the episode was that she was afraid too. The thing is about Rachel, is she really a cry-baby, or is she a princess using tears to get her own way, tougher than she looks?

Why "stealing"? Monica said that he borrowed it.

What poster is this?

As well as the book on Section 5?

We already have...

Joey getting stuck in the trash chute.

..so let's combine them as...

Joey getting stuck in the trash chute, and Treeger helping him out.

Wow, clever - babies, responsibilities, ahhh!!!

At the lawyer's office?

We already have...

Ross out on the pull with some geologists, to appear more eligible.

..but I hadn't thought about the barrel itself (you're very clever) with all the levels above Ross - what would those be?

And how come Ross is at the *bottom* of the dating barrel, but Four Divorce Guy, Murderer Guy, and geologists are below him?

Why would you want to see this?

Awwww.....

RPGOL!!! Do we put this with S6-05 or S7-13?

To stop her sitting down? Because of the knickers???

He has to do more than that, he has to look like Amy too. :)

Hehe - what model would Phoebe like?

RPGOL, this is brilliant stuff, Marita!

In S2-21?

Why? When?

He *knew* Chandler would mess it up, didn't he?

Why him, in particular?

Yes, this was the beginning of Pheebs changing her attitude, was it not? When she made the kissy face and winked at him?

Oh? why? As Freud?

Because of Rachel's dad? Why Phoebe?

What's this?

He'd already seen it in October 2000. Did you mean 1999?

Tennant's suggestions from July 26th...

What Joey would have done if the phone bill really was over $5.55m. Chandler hiring Joey to dress up, and put on little skits. Ross giving up a career in basketball to become a palaeontologist. Monica using a sock bunny to make up for not getting Rachel a gift. Chandler realising that "Bing" is a common Chinese surname. What the injuries were that plagued Joey's 1997 foosball season. Monica & Rachel's escalating battle over pen tethers. Monica washing the toilet while Rachel is sitting on it. What the six friends do for Halloween each year. If by "20 blocks to the left", Monica meant the Hudson River. What would have happened if Rachel had made Monica move out. Rachel's 147 thousand pairs of boots. Monica in the shower, reading Rachel's latest note on the mirror. How come Phoebe ran quite normally in the football game. Monica sitting on Chandler. Ross realising that Phoebe listens to him about science. What Chandler's guy problem was. Janine being sexy, alluring & vivacious. Janine catching Joey going through her stuff, so getting really mad. Joey sitting around with his fingers soaking in moisturiser/lotion? Hot assistant chef Hillary glaring at Ross for getting in her way. Why Rachel, Chandler, Monica & Ross weren't at work on a Wednesday. Kenny the copy guy swearing he loves Phoebe, and begging for a kiss. Phoebe making out with Kenny the copy guy on the Xerox machine. Chandler & Joey throwing darts at the picture of a famous baby. Why Monica didn't try a brown or a pink shirt on Ross. Monica putting make-up on Ross when they were teenagers. What happened to Hillary, after which she had to become a chef. Rachel solving all her problems in life just by sleeping with Kenny. What integral cog Kim said when Rachel became a Divisional Head. Joey carefully arranging all the girlie objets d'art in his room. Chandler getting Monica's parents so drunk that he wins them over. Ross & Joey at Janine's boozy uptown dance studio party. Rachel's dessert being so good Phoebe leaves none for anybody else. The Indians teaching the Pilgrims to be hot in the New World. Phoebe's erotic dreams about hunky Jack Geller. Jack Geller walking in on Rachel while she was changing. Chandler's father as the headliner of a gay burlesque show. Rachel making Beef Trifle with an extra layer of jam to please Joey. Jack & Judy catching Ross smoking pot in his bedroom. Phoebe getting her revenge for losing Richard Burke to Monica. Jacques Cousteau kicking Jack Geller's ass for betraying Phoebe. The pet seahorse totally coming onto Phoebe, who remains aloof. Ross wearing a big belt. Monica breaking the porch swing, and blaming it on Hurricane Gloria. Chandler giving the pouting Geller siblings a good talking to. Ross & Joey discovering that Janine's dancer friends are all male. The traditional Bing family Christmas tree, adorned with big lights. Monica realising the neighbours can see the messy side of the tree. Janine stretching all over Joey's apartment. Joey feeding Janine grapes, and brushing her hair. What the little fat girl inside Monica thinks of Chandler. Chandler informing the gang that Monica is not so obsessive. Rachel & Phoebe's reaction if the boys went through their things. What else a knickerless Monica would remove to get on television. Rachel & Phoebe getting their comeuppance for their disrespect. How the Gellers could be filmed for the blooper reel after the wrap. Monica assuring Chandler that any gift is fine if given with love.

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Do you think he would be just as shocked as Joshua was, or would he burst out laughing?

Yep. Friends goes Titanic, or something like that. :)

Yep. His earring wasn't good enough.

Well, that's the beauty of this entry, it can be connected to both... ;)

Yep.

Pecking his way through Joey's door...

I think so, yes.

Yes, she did, and we didn't see it afterwards...

Yep.. A real massacre..

Take a look at Phoebe's earrings in 502 when she objects to going to Central Park.

Yep, I'm rather puzzled by this. He has other friends?!?

Because maybe he wants to go out with him too...

Not really. If they wanted to name the first boy Chandler, the girl coming after Chandler would still be named Leslie, while the last boy (who turned out to be a girl) would be Frank Jr Jr. I guess that would mean that her name would be Frankie Jr Jr.

I don't know. It could be that she puts on an act to get sympathy, but she seems rather honest nowadays.

Oh, that's right. My bad. :)

The one in the scene where Rachel comes to his apartment before they're going to the cinema to watch "How Stella Got Her Groove Back" in 504 TOW Phoebe Hates PBS. I'm pretty sure the poster has Russian letters.

Yep, although she would have to improve it a bit to make it Monica-perfect.

Great. :)

Yep. Scary, isn't it? I think she will come around, however, once she holds Baby Green in her arms. Her baby phobia will disappear just as quickly as Chandler's commitment phobia.

Yep.

Well, there would be actors and computer processors of course. I don't know where I'd put coffeehouse owners, college students, orthodontists, eye doctors, millionaires, drag queens, lawyers etc, though.

Ooh, interesting. However, I think Rachel would know how to explain it to you.

RACHEL: When I saw him get off that plane with her, I really thought I hit rock bottom. But today, it's like there's rock bottom, then 50 feet of crap, then me.

And since geologists are very interested in stones and various species of rocks, that would make sense, don't you think? ;)

I don't want to see it in real life, but in a dream sequence perhaps?

713, I think. But it might as well be an entry for 605.

I took it from the end scene in 612. Rachel sits down on the couch having talked to Gunther, and then Phoebe returns from the bathroom. Phoebe wants her seat back, and Rachel immediately jumps up and sits down on one of the chairs instead. If Rachel had learnt anything from Joey in 302, she would have taken the cushions to prevent Phoebe from sitting comfortably.

He'll just have to start wearing make-up again.

Porsche. No doubt about it either. It's probably the car whose name is most similar to her own.

Thank you. I knew a Friends-marathon would help me here. :)

Yep, it's a combination of 221, 615 and 616.

Joey dated the dry cleaner's wife and got into trouble in 622. Phoebe (or Rachel) should have told him not to do such a thing. After all, Rachel told Phoebe that you're not supposed to make out with married people in 608.

*Gasp* He's a psychic even though he's brand new!!

Because Joey would only give him his money back if he hosted a charity event.

Yep, or it could have happened right after Phoebe found out about Monica and Chandler. Monica had stolen one of her back-ups!

No, the kind of beard MLB normally has. We've already seen MP with one (321-324, 508), so why not Joey? This would of course mean that it would be funny to see Ross with one too.

Because Phoebe had to ask Rachel how much money they were going to give in tips in the beginning of 516. Ross certainly knew how to do this in 307.

It's a bit far-fetched, but I couldn't help myself. Chandler and Ross looked like they came straight from Miami Vice in the flashback from Thanksgiving 1988. If Friends had a Miami Vice inspired episode, I think we'd see Joey as a pimp with lots of beautiful girls next to him.

Oops! Yep, I meant 1999.

Stop apologizing to all the women he has slept with?

Awww.. Cute.

A star is born...

Lol!

Hehe. He didn't know how correct Joey was in 606, did he?

Heartache.

Hah!

Well...

Absolutely.

Smil. Has Phoebe moved back to the barge?

I guess that would mean that Chandler and Monica would have had to stay with Phoebe..

Can she beat Imelda Marcos? :)

O-kay...

She had broken boobs, so she couldn't run as crazily as she used to do when she was younger.

We almost saw that in 207.

With romantic music playing in the background?

Eh..

We never saw that, did we? :)

Yep!

Lol. He could borrow Chandler's or Janine's.

Yep.

They didn't know what day it was, so they kept asking themselves: Wednesday, when? Huh? What day?

Ugh, a creep in the making.

And Joey watching them?

Lol! Better keep Monica out of sight then!

Smil.

Absolutely.

She opened a store specializing in black lights for fancy restaurants.

Well, as of today, it looks as if she got a few problems this way as well..

Lol!

Lol! Wonderful!

RPGOL!!! Now, that's something I'd like to see.

Hah! Ross wishes.. And while we're at it: Ross impressing Janine's hot dancer friends by understanding them

Hehe.

Lol. I don't think I ever read that story in the encyclopedia...

I don't think Monica wants to see anymore of that. She saw more than enough in 214 and 216.

Ewww...  :)

Asterisk?

Awww.. And sending him off to watch a movie at the cinema afterwards...

And Chandler supposedly jumping out the window?

And what would that involve?

Lol!

It makes her sound like a mermaid... :)

Lol.

Hehe.

Yes! He'd know what to say to them.

And gay to boot?

Ah, the good old days...

Ross would see it, Jen would see it, the perverted old couple would see it. Monica would freak out...

He wishes...

And taking care of Marcel afterwards?

Awww.. He loves the little fat girl inside of her, so why wouldn't she reciprocate?

He tried to do that in 612, but he convinced her she wasn't a freak instead. Awww...

Oh, the nerve...

Hah!

Perhaps they'll end up as old maids...

The miracles of television.

Awwww... But still, a water purifier for her long-term boyfriend?

Rachel the Bad Driver becoming head cheerleader Phoebe hanging out with Charles in Las Vegas Charles dressed as a bride in his son's wedding Phoebe wearing a wedding gown in Monica's wedding Chandler and Monica eloping to Las Vegas Chandler's dictionary that describes his parents Charles cheering for his son while wearing a Carmen Miranda costume Charles showing up at #19 to talk to Chandler Charles starring as Maria in West Side Story What happened to Charles in Bakersfield Joey trying on Rachel's pantyhose Rachel teaching Ross how to use fourth gear The reason why Monica was studying the real estate section in the newspaper Chandler getting a divorce so that he can play basket in Ross's backyard All the languages Phoebe speaks Rachel giving birth to Jill's triplets Joey explaining the concept of horsepower to Ross Ross and Phoebe's smooth ride in his sports car Joey dating Adam with the giant Adam's apple Rachel riding her scooter to work Rachel refusing to lend Monica her scooter Phoebe and Rachel arguing for 35 years Joey borrowing Jack's big belt Chandler buying windshieldwipers for his glasses for his wedding Rachel and adult Ben having a wild margarita-party Joey living a life in celibacy in order to become a minister Joey having lunch with Judy Geller The big change at Central Perk that happened after Chandler and Monica's wedding Ross borrowing money from Chandler after he's been a wastosaurus Ross chasing Chandler after he has hurt Monica All the auditions Joey has been at Phoebe fighting the Mexican Nazis in World War I

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Somewhere in between. Only a blithering idiot would run away screaming from three lovely young women in virginal white dresses, but Chandler would be surprised. But then he'd come up with such a sarcastic remark that when Monica changed into mufti, she would remove the garter also.

Oh. Where does this fit in?

Which didn't even go on her finger. This was obviously an omen.

So choose.

Lol - you only have to say that, and I think of Rachel's legs...

Okay. :)

So Joey wouldn't have seen two glasses.

Okay.

Oh, they're plectrums! One goes one way, and one goes the other. As a left-handed guitarist with a right-handed guitar, which would she use?

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Or even better, she'd make him remove it a la the famous American wedding tradition.

Well, I was adding the Titanic part myself (it's not completely correct either, as the Titanic would of course be leaving Southampton, not New York), but the entry is connected to that faithful coffeehouse scene in 207.

Or just a new ring.. Monica obviously doesn't believe in omens, or doesn't want to believe in them (601).

Late s4 IMO. Emily is so important to the entry that you can't just ignore her and focus on the gift.

Lol.. And Rachel wearing her hair down... No French twist..

Why not? It could still be on the bottom of the bathtub. The whole point of this entry is Joey wondering why there were *two* glasses there, and not just one, i.e. Chandler's glass, which he had already seen him holding.

I'm afraid I have no idea. I've never played the guitar.

I agree, but I still want to know who he was talking to..

I'm afraid I don't agree with you here. I can't imagine him being a good friend of Frances', and I think he was talking to a friend of his.

Because:

Monica: Umm, actually I was about to tell you that I was, I was going to get out of it, but hey, if we're just goofing around then uh, maybe I will go out with him. Chandler: Fine! Maybe I will too!

It was a girl's name in the movie "Frankie and Johnny". ;)

Eh, you're right. Never mind. I don't know what I was thinking.

It's good enough. :)

Perfect. ;)

Awww... You're probably right. How about the moment she sees the baby on the sonogram or hears the baby's heartbeat? That certainly worked for Ross.

Potato - potaaaato.... ;) (705)

TT.

Exactly.

TT.

Hehe. Monica will help him look good.

Monica - (Ford) Mondeo Chandler - (Jeep) Cherokee Rachel - ? Ross - ? Joey - Jaguar (?)

You need to help me out here, I'm clueless when it comes to cars. :)

Thanks! I feel like I'm running out of ideas here...

It would be like her ability to speak Italian in 519.

Joey: Wow Pheebs, you speak Italian? Phoebe: I guess so.

Hehe. They all do that, don't they?

Phoebe could still have accused her of inadvertently ruining her chances for future happiness...

Could be.

I remembered after I posted this that MP had a beard in 306 too... Anyway, I guess it would be easiest to connect it to 321 when Joey actually comments on Chandler's beard.

But a nickel? Doesn't that show us that she has lived in Europe too long to know how to tip the American way?

I'd *love* to see Chandler and Ross as Crockett and Tubbs again. :)

Yeah, I knew that one! I bet they would have to be scantily clad as well to please the male part of the audience. ;)

Yep.

I feel the anger of thousands of women in NYC...

Hehe, exactly.

But we don't! :)

Yep, and to be perfectly honest, I don't know which woman hurt him the most.

Oh dear..

O-kay..

I'd really like to see Halloween on the show, though. Basically because we don't celebrate Halloween over here.

Oh, really? You think she was that angry with her? :)

Not that different from late s6 - early s7. Phoebe and Chandler would have been bonding just as they were in Monica and Chandler's apartment, but I don't know if Phoebe or Chandler would have heard that message from the Morgan Chase museum.

And that means: Rachel in the Guinness Book of Records for having 147000 pairs of boots

Okay, okay, I guess it would be tolerable if she was wearing a robe or a towel.

Yeah, the ball hit her breast, and she yelled: "Broken boob!!"

Almost. She was sitting on his feet as he was taking sit-ups.

Smil.

It's up to you.

Is there such a big difference between the two?

Smil.

Dozens of creeps are popular with the ladies, and god only knows why.

Because the picture of the famous baby hang where the dart board used to be.

Pardon? Bras?

Bleech... JA even said in an interview that she thought Rachel was an idiot because she fell for stupid young boys.

Because she has already seen it live and doesn't want to see a rerun. It would be brand new to the rest of us, though.

Awww...

Pardon?

Exactlamento.

<g>

Hehe.

Okay, I'm sorry. :)

Does he still live there, though? Perhaps he moved to Washington when Clinton's problems started?

I'll take that as a compliment. ;)

Easy. Chandler would just order a Joey special for her.

Hehe, be careful what you wish for... ;)

If she has always been this bad at it, I don't blame Rachel for exchanging her gifts from her.

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Hehe, but I don't think so. She'd be in her room, hurriedly doffing the whole outfit. But a few episodes later, you would be right of course.

fateful?

ROSS: This ship has sailed. / RACHEL: I don't need your stupid ship. ???

That's right, only Ross & Phoebe do (616 & 221).

Good point. So where exactly? The earring? The heirloom? The gift shop?

Aww... thankyou, sweetie. :)

Oh! I was visualising the scene in 502, not afterwards. So how about...

A puzzled Joey finding two glasses by the empty bathtub.

Maybe one was Leslie's.

Okay.

How do you know that Chandler was talking to a friend?

Don't you think that somebody should have phoned Frances?

Oh that - I always took that to mean that Chandler threatened to go on the date with Monica & Dan.

I knew you would say that. :)

Smil.

Thanx. There are a lot of similarities between the two lines, could the slogan be poetic? How good is your Russian?

Okay, it's in.

Oh yes, and we will be able to see how much Chandler has changed over the years, by whether or not he cracks his Star Trek joke again.

Okay sweetie, but tell that to Doug if you get the job description wrong, or watch the look on Terry's face when Gunther pretends to own the joint.

No she won't, ewwww....

Tee-hee, a friend has just bought a Mondeo, and he's a Rachel fan.

I suppose Rachel Ross could be a Range Rover.

Season 6 was very weak, but I'm doing those now.

Then there's all the ones we've missed...

Okay, so how about...

Phoebe discovering the ability to help Monica on the stock market.

To a certain extent, but Rachel & Ross & Phoebe do listen to his advice.

Hmmm...

Okay, so how about...

Monica fighting Phoebe for making kissy faces at Chandler.

Okay, so how about...

Joey growing a beard, to look like Chandler & Satan.

Sorry no. Phoebe regarded the nickel as only a start, which is why she asked how much more money they needed. If the rate is 10%, then their order must have cost about $20.50, but Phoebe hadn't been told that.

Hehe.

Very probably. :)

But anyway, you forgot to choose.

Okay, so then what happens?

Hehe.

Yay! :)

Tricky. He really loved Kate, and he wasn't too fussed by Kathy.

But Kate was forced to move away, while Kathy deeply betrayed him.

Don't worry, I solved it by writing an on-line entry package for her business so telephone orders go straight into her computer system.

Smil.

Neither do we, except by watching Sabrina or Simpsons specials.

Yeah!! Wind back a bit to where Monica picked up Rachel's hair roller heater, dumped it in a box, and ran out of the room in tears.

What about when Chandler & Monica go running with Phoebe?

Hehe.

Or simply a careful camera angle.

I was driving through the village today, when a car stopped at the crossroads, and a blonde got out. She was wearing jeans & a bikini top, but she was holding her bag in front of her chest, appearing to be topless. Traffic, such as it was, ground to a halt...

Oh yes. But she still ran after that.

Not quite the same...

Okay, I'll put it in.

Maybe not, but I don't know what the correct word is to use.

Oh. :(

Okay, you do know why I said this! :)

Yeah, when you turn the black light on, the bras shine straight through all the women's clothing, as though they're half-naked.

Yeah, and only we can see Phoebe's dreams.

Exactly.

Rachel has twice told Joey that he's pretty, once told Phoebe that she's pretty, and twice described Tag as pretty.

She's never told Ross, Monica, or Chandler that they're pretty.

Apology accepted.

Perhaps when Clinton's problems started, he decided not to move to Washington.

BOC

Yeah, but Monica wouldn't let her eat it.

I know...

Hah! That explains it!!! :)

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It's all about the hints and the foreshadowing.

Rose and Rachel have something in common here. The "ship" caused them a lot of problems in the beginning, but once they gave in to their feelings, they realised they had found true love...

Good thing Rachel was there for Ross in 616...

Definitely the old wedding ring. It's just so sad that she never got to enjoy that ring properly.

I knew you would love that.

Exactly. Would he ask Chandler about it? Would he start suspecting something?

Could be. Perhaps Lily made them into earrings after she saw Phoebe and Leslie sitting together on the barge.

The way he was standing and his body language.

Absolutely, but I don't think Chandler did it. Do you really think Phoebe would trust Chandler with that rather important task? I don't. :)

Ah, I see, different interpretations. ;)

Good. :)

Although living in a country next to Russia, my Russian is rather bad... I think the only words I know are "da", "njet", "pravda", "mamushka" and "babushka".

He won't mention any spaceships when he sees his own kid for the first time, because he'll be too choked up to utter a word. And I'm sure he won't say anything about it to Rachel either. Chandler is a completely different person now (thank goodness).

I'll explain it to them, don't worry. However, first of all, I'd ask Terry where he has been for the past few years.

So you're saying that transvestites like Charles Bing can't look good? ;)

Perhaps he can exchange it.

Yep.

And all the entries we can come up with if we connect different episodes..

Ooh.. Freaky...

Rachel does both.

I certainly think this is a possible option.

Okay, but only if you add my version as well. ;)

Okay.

I'm too European to believe it, sorry, and I'm not used to the concept of tipping. Perhaps I'll accept it in a couple of months.

Why do I have to choose? Can't we add both?

He'd either freak out and start snapping his fingers again or buy that engagement ring a lot earlier. This would of course mean that the proposal would take place on Christmas Eve or New Year's Eve.

And in addition to Kathy's betrayal, there was of course Chandler crossing the line, which was ten times worse.

And now they don't have a phone pen to fight over?

Felicity had a great Halloween show a couple of years ago.

I know, she's furious with her.. And she has every right to feel that way.

Chandler would ride the horse or hail a cab, while Monica would race Phoebe to the fountain in Central Park.

Lol. I guess it's no wonder why it's so dangerous to put huge H&M posters next to the highways right before Christmas.

Precisely, but she was hurt so she couldn't run as freely as she wanted to, i.e. the running style we saw in 607.

No, but it was the only thing I could think of that came close to it.

I don't really see the difference, so I don't think it matters.

Unfortunately, that's just the way it is.

Of course. :)

Once again, we've come to an issue I really don't know how to comment on.

BOC.

Those scores will change if you include handsome and sexy.

Hehe, could be. The impeachment threat certainly didn't sound like a lot of fun.

Chandler would calm her down and tell her that if he can lose twenty pounds in a couple of minutes, she can eat two pizzas and stay thin.

Exactly! :)

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Ah. Good point. :)

What *was* the last hint in Season 4?

Okay, so how about...

20789u/KR*/The Ross & Rachel ship, setting sail from New York harbour.

Yeah, but she didn't comfort him on the nearest horizontal surface.

Okay, so that means 422 "TOW the Worst Best Man Ever", but that still leaves us with three references...

Reference 1 - 42206

ROSS: Alright, here's the ring. (He shows Chandler the wedding ring he plans on giving Emily)

CHANDLER: (Pretending to be shocked) Yes! Yes! A thousand times, yes!

Reference 2 - 42260

ROSS: When my grandmother first came to this country, that ring & the clothes on her back were all she had with her.

CHANDLER: So you might say, the ring is irreplaceable?

ROSS: Oh absolutely! It has been in my family for generations, and every bride who has worn it has had a long & happy life.

Reference 3 - 42293

DOCTOR: (Coming in from surgery) Somebody lose a ring?

ROSS: Oh my God! Thankyou! Thankyou so much! (He grabs the ring, kisses it, and then does a double-take realising where it's been.)

Indeed, so it's just as well that he never found them.

Awww, I think that would be the first nice thing we've heard about her.

Oh okay, I always tend to accept women's opinion on that kinda stuff.

Ah, but we don't know that it was Phoebe's idea. Nevertheless, it was probably Frank who phoned Frances, so we needn't fash ersens.

Yeah.

In that case, you'd better steer clear of Nadsat lest it pervert you.

Yeah. Let's just hope that Rachel's baby isn't his.

Attending to all his other coffee houses. But you're right, we've only seen him twice, in 109 & 206 - though it's from 310 that we know for sure that Gunther is merely the manager of CP, and Terry is his boss.

Sure, as long as you get Hollywood actresses to play them.

Indeed, and you're very good at that.

Hehe.

That's because she has Monica telling her not to listen to his advice.

Not without blowing the secret that Ross had agreed to marry her.

Mine includes your version (Monica & Phoebe fighting over Chandler) so you'll have to compose a new one, sorry.

It's just a question of working out what Phoebe knew & didn't know.

They're too similar. Okay, I'll choose - the second one.

This is only a few months before he *pretended* to freak out when he heard the message from Heldi - and it's after he held little baby girl Chandler in his arms, which was the turning point for him, so...

A yuletide proposal, after Chandler finds Monica's wedding book.

..bear in mind that we don't need to say "December 1999" since we're referring to 610 "TOW the Routine", set on 17th December 1999. Just think, they could have married at the end of the season, and so by now Rachel would have a beautiful baby...

Indeed.

Now she won't lose thousands of pounds because someone took the pen.

Ah. Never seen more than 5 minutes of that show.

Exactly.

Hah! And Monica would not have been embarrassed by her.

H&M posters?

Hmmm.... :)

Aarghhh! I feel like the guys choosing between clowns & ducks here. :(

Yeah. :(

Easy. Black lighting is unsuitable for fancy restaurants.

The score is Chandler-2, Hanson-1, Ross-1, zero the rest.

Note that she twice told Chandler to his face, but never Ross.

The score is Joey-1, Monica-1, Phoebe-1, Ross-1, zero the rest.

If we combine all three compliments for her friends to their faces,

the score is Joey-3, Chandler-2, Phoebe-2, Monica-1, Ross-1.

Yeah.

Awww... But I think it's Matthew Perry who lost the 20 pounds, nei?

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I would say that this was it. 421 was all about Ross and Rachel. Chandler and Monica sit pretty close together in the beginning of 422, but that can hardly be counted as a real hint. Monica's line in 420 ("No-no, Rachel, don�t get it! He can�t see us!") is what I would call a definite hint, and the last one we saw before it actually happened.

What do the letters mean?

Rachel only goes for coffeetables in her dreams.

This one, without a doubt. It includes both the bride and how important the ring is to him.

Sure, but it's still worthy of a place on the list. :)

Yep!  :)

You should. ;)

Phoebe said that someone should call her mom, and the only people who heard that were her friends. If one of them actually listened to her, I think Ross or Rachel would call Frances, and not Chandler.

Oh, I'm sure I could handle listening to it. :)

Chandler in the earlier years could have been willing to sleep with her, but not the one we see at the moment.

That happened a long time ago, though, and I think Gunther has got a well deserved promotion since then.

How about Ru Paul, Tootsie and Mrs Doubtfire then? ;)

TT.

Yeah, the girls don't understand how good Joey is at this stuff..

Not necessarily. If she accused Monica for stealing her back-up when Joey and Ross were nowhere in sight, she could get away with it.

Phoebe accusing Monica for stealing her back-up.

Fair enough. I still haven't changed my mind, though. :)

Good choice.

I don't think she would have been pregnant if that were the case. She hadn't been bonding with Joey for very long at that point, and there was no Tag in sight. Ross was dating Elizabeth, so that would have meant that Paul was the father, hence more episodes starring Bruce Willis. And while that sounds fun, Rachel wasn't depressed enough to start thinking about getting preggers at that point. Monica and Chandler wouldn't have been planning their wedding for so long, and Rachel wouldn't be so sad about it. She was also just 29 years old by the end of season 6 and hadn't realised that her plans involving marriage and kids were going down the drain...

I enjoyed the first season, but I haven't watched an episode since then.

No, and if she had been embarrassed, Chandler would have calmed her down.

Gosh, you don't have that? Every year before Christmas the whole city is covered with giant H&M posters with some world-famous supermodel (e.g. Claudia Schiffer, Anna Nicole Smith or Pamela Anderson), advertising for lingerie. The traffic authorities claim that the posters cause huge traffic problems.

I think it makes total sense. ;)

I don't think the outcome is that serious, though.

I will take your word for it. :)

Do you count the tag scene in 720 as two times?

So she thinks that Joey is just as sexy as Ross...

I think this proves there is a big possibillity Joey is the father, don't you think?

Put it any way you want, the fact is that Chandler was drowning in his orange shirt in 701, and that shirt fit him perfectly a few hours earlier. In addition to this, his voice was different, and his teeth looked odd. Something happened...

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Wow yes... pardon me, but checking this out, I think the last hint was the next line, or maybe even the line after that...

(The girls are in wedding dresses, when there's a knock on the door.)

MONICA: Oh God! That's Chandler! He's gonna come by and borrow some candles for his big date!

RACHEL: Oh, okay! (She goes to answer the door.)

MONICA: No-no, Rachel, don't get it! He can't see us!

PHOEBE: No, yeah! The groom cannot see the bride!

RACHEL: I'm not gonna marry Chandler!

PHOEBE: Not after this!

..they practically told us! How could we not have noticed at the time? Mind you, multiple candles play a significant role in Monica's relationship with Chandler...

First of all, hello, the Freudian symbolism.

Secondly, candle = Chandler.

Thirdly, dumping the ex in 301, bathtime fun in 502, sneaking around in 509, her fear of losing him in 617, and her big surprise in 625.

It's episode 207, 89% of the way through the uncut version, about Karen & Ross, marked with an asterisk because we've since seen it.

Absolutely! And look at who her first & second choices were...

Okay, it's in.

Oh, don't worry sweetie, most of these go straight in, as soon as I know what we're talking about, and where it fits. :)

We *so* need a flashback...

I know, that's why I do.

Well, maybe Chandler is a big fan of "Close Encounters of the Third Kind", so when he met Phoebe's mother he joked about how she resembled the cute actress in that film, and how at that time she was a bit like Phoebe is now, and they got to talking, and became friends, and that's whom he was talking to on the phone...

Ah, nachinat kleb'n'firegold furdi ooko.

Oh, I quite agree, but I'm talking about drunken flings here, and Chandler is the one who doesn't suffer from brewer's droop. Although it's another thing for him after a long & tiring day, of course.

How do you get promoted from being the manager, when the only person above you in the coffee house hierarchy is the actual owner?

Ugh, double ugh, and triple ugh.

True, but even Monica listened to him about her sperm bank idea, after everyone else had failed to convince her.

Yeah, except Monica would tell Rachel.

Very good. Okay, when?

Oh, you're absolutely right sweetie, I wasn't thinking. I just moved everything back a year, forgetting Rachel was in a different place.

Ah. There you go then.

Awww...

Gosh. So what's H&M then?

What about before she broke her boob?

No, but can you please just say which is the word to use?

Moisturiser? Lotion? Or some other stuff?

Thanks.

Yes. Repeating yourself is very significant.

I know.

That's where I was going!

It's funny how such textual analyses reveal underlying patterns, isn't it? My theory is that the writers discuss what is going to happen, or what might happen, or what some writers want to happen but the others won't let them - then they have to keep it a big secret for years, during which they subconsciously let stuff slip.

All part of the magic, and the tragedy, of show business.

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Absolutely. I'm amazed I didn't realise it after watching this for the first time.

Ah, I see.

Our dreams tell us a lot, don't they? :)

Okay. :)

Hehe. Nothing is impossible....

Which means...?

Perhaps the drink itself is what's important? Champagne is lethal, while wine and regular drinks are not? (If he drank Rob Roy instead of champagne in 114, that is.)

Chief executive then?

Figured as much. ;)

She was in a fragile state back then, wasn't she? Poor Mon...

I think Monica has proved that she keeps lots of things from Rachel. She didn't say a word about her relationship with Chandler.

Between 515 and 516.

TT.

They air it on Sunday evenings, and I don't have time to watch it then. It's too bad, though, as it really is a good show.

The clothing store H&M. I've been to the H&M store on Oxford Circus, so I know that you have that in the UK.

Got me. :(

Well, I would say lotion.

Although I don't think she was entirely serious when she said it.

I hope they do that. In case another romantic relationship is in the works, we will know where to look for the hints.

I saw a new picture of him today, and he looked quite healthy. Apparently, he drinks just Coke and coffee these days. :)

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They put this stuff in, and we just don't notice...

Messages from the soul.

Ah, so begins the food & drink for the ear.

Yeah, but he drank Rob Roy *and* champagne, didn't he?

And he kept his end up in 311 & 424.

Neah, you can't be higher than manager without buying the joint.

Of course.

Yes, her lowest ebb.

Good point, but she also tells lots of things to Rachel.

It seems to me that this is the kind of thing she would share.

Why there, and not between 514 and 515?

Oh, they've got all kinds of stuff down there.

What does H&M mean?

Okay, thanks.

There was a documentary about polar bear research on TV the other night, when one scientist turned his infra-red camera on the male presenter.

The man's eyes could not be seen, since they were the same temperature as the rest of his face, but his penis glowed through his clothing.

Co-host Trude Mostue (whom I assume is Scandinavian) remarked that the camera would come in handy for going clubbing.

Even so, the writers wrote it.

Yep.

I'm genuinely glad to hear that.

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Until afterwards!

Grin. Weird.

I know, but if he drank Rob Roy *instead* of champagne...

I know. He drank a lot of vodka and drinks, and it happened.

Okay, this isn't my "field", so I'll believe you.

Well, yes, but not everything.

Okay, but I think it is possible anyhow. I picture a scene with only Monica and Phoebe present. They start chatting about Monica and Chandler's relationship, and Phoebe reveals that she was the one who was supposed to have him, and she accuses Monica of betrayal. Monica is shocked as she had no idea about Chandler and Phoebe's agreement.

Because after Chandler's proposal in 515, Phoebe knew for sure that Monica and Chandler's relationship was serious, and would probably ruin her plans of marrying Chandler. It would also have to take place before 516, which was when Phoebe met Gary.

Yep.

It means "Hennes & Mauritz'". "Hennes" means "hers".

Lol!

She's Norwegian. And I assume she's among the most famous Norwegians in the UK..

Hehe.

Me too!

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Until afterwards.

You can speculate on that if you like, but we have every reason to believe that Chandler drank both, then took Janice to his bed.

Exactly. So that's three times he's got hammered enough to not know who he's fucking (though the third time he didn't regret it) and yet he was still able to perform. You can argue the details of that if you like, but it still sets the precedent. Couple that with Rachel's predilection for drunken sexual adventures in 601 & 720, and we have a recipe for Chandler fathering her child without either of the pair deliberately betraying Monica, and a rattling good story to boot.

Thanks.

It seems to me that this is the kind of thing that she would tell.

Okay, this isn't my "field", so I'll believe you.

Fair enough - so pick a moment in late 515.

Is that Norwegian?

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Except she's not famous *as* a Norwegian, sorry.

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Okay, okay. I give up. :)

Intriguing, but not good. I like Chandler so much at the moment, that if he turns into a complete jerk, I'll despise him.

Keeping secrets from friends isn't that hard, and if anyone can do it, Monica can.

Hehe. TT.

Right after the proposal when everybody was on their way down to the coffeehouse. Phoebe asks Monica to wait a second when the rest of the friends have left the apartment and starts to accuse her...

Yep. There might be a different Swedish title (it comes from Sweden), but I've never heard anything else.

I know, she's famous because she's a blonde vet. :)

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Okay.

Ah, but he wouldn't be a complete jerk, just someone who became of unsound mind, and then remembered none of it in the morning.

Then after the paternity test, Monica walks out on him, and we can have about half a season of angst before they are reconciled.

Yes, she could if she wanted to to, but she wouldn't want to.

Okay, that's 51595. Thanks, sweetie.

Ah. It's nice to see this sort of cross fertilisation going on.

True.

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I don't really see it that way. Sure, he'd be hammered when he did it and all, but that doesn't mean that we, the audience, and Monica will forgive him right away. I think it bears a striking resemblance to Ross in 315/316, and I don't like it at all. To ruin Chandler's character now that he's so happy and great? I truly hope that doesn't happen.

I think Monica would walk out on him the moment she heard of the affair, and not after the paternity test. :)

I'm not so sure about that, though, sorry. :)

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Ross was not so drunk in 315 that he was of unsound mind.

Don't worry sweetie, it probably won't happen.

Ah - you're missing the point. There would be no affair. The first that any of them would find out about it was the paternity test.

Why would Monica be unable to tell something that she wanted to?

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I'm not saying he was that either, but I think fans and viewers would be so furious with Chandler that it would sound like the fury we had after 315 and 316.

I hope not.

I think they would remember waking up in the same bed, though. (Besides, I do not believe anyone is capable of being so incredibly drunk that they have no idea what they're doing. If they are that wasted, there has to be a stronger drug involved.)

Why would she want to tell it to Rachel? I think women and girls want to keep a few things to themselves... ;)

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How much of that was from dispossessed Ross & Rachel fans, though?

Okay.

Not if they didn't go to bed, and one of them staggered away afterwards.

Well, that's what "unsound mind" is all about.

That's fair enough, sweetie. I haven't been saying that Monica must have told Rachel, only denying that she'd be unable to, okay?

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I don't think I should answer that as I wasn't on ATF at the time, but I remember discussing it with my friends. We all thought Ross was a jerk, who should never have treated Rachel like that.

A bit unlikely IMHO, but fair enough. :)

Ross's betrayal that night was a result of: 1.Jealousy 2.Depression 3.Anger 4.Alcohol

Unfortunately, he combined all of these factors and ended up sleeping with Chloe. He couldn't blame the alcohol for doing it.

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Me too, though I was more annoyed by what he did *before* the break.

Don't forget we're imagining the remains of a wild party here.

No, but what about Vegas?

Phew! <mops brow>

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Absolutely! :( His behaviour was appalling.

Fair enough. It must have been *wild*, though.

He must have thought getting married would be funny in order to agree to Rachel's suggestion. I just think that alcohol alone didn't make him say "I do" in The Little White Chapel in Vegas. Perhaps he had fallen in love with her again, and gave in to those feelings when he got drunk. Besides, I think Rachel used those grapes to get him.

Lol! Relax, Tennant... :)

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Yep, especially the barbershop quartet. :(

Oh yes. :)

Even so, their grounds for annulment were that they were of unsound mind.

RPGOL!

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.... (rub my shoulders) ..thanks. :)

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Could that be because Rachel could not be trusted anywhere in the pep rally pyramid, except at the top?

Oh, why?

They'd make a pretty pair!

I could've sworn we had this one already, but we didn't.

How many special dictionaries *does* he have?

Oh yeah, and a tutti-frutti hat!

And meeting Mr.Heckles at the door?

Why's this, exactly?

Could he have committed some heinous crime, but all these years he has evaded the law by masquerading as a homosexual transvestite?

Lol! Is that pantyhose or pantihose? (We say tights).

Is that fourth gear as in Ross is stuck in third gear, or fourth gear as in top? I say this because I have a high performance car (although it's no Porsche) and it has five forward gears.

Ooh! Good question!

Isn't this the same as his club?

Compared with the stronzo?

RPGOL! Oh, that's very clever, Marita!

But to where should we attach it, Phoebe giving birth to Frank's triplets, the S7 finale, or the February/May 2002 sweeps?

Hehe, yes Ross is lost outside his field, isn't he?

Awww... how romantic.

Which reminds me, he still hasn't ridden in her cab.

Oh, should this be 203.05 kissing the girl with the biggest Adam's Apple, or 714.28 the tie hurting his Joey's Apple?

Lol!! She'd look so cute, and she'd zip through all the traffic.

Where is the Ralph Lauren building, anyway?

Wow, brilliant!!

But does this go in the birthday story or the Porsche story?

Is this something to do with the owner of the phone?

I've already suggested this for Ross.

But anyway, was that to floor Phoebe or Rachel?

�Qu�?

Well yes, but she said a grown-up Ben, so maybe Rachel wasn't planning on waiting until he was 21.

But it was an instant thing.

I can imagine that going well. She seems to have become a nicer person these days, but don't you feel a bit cheated that we never saw any cathartic moment when someone cut her down to size?

How do you mean?

Is that something to do with a cheaposaurus?

Why would you want Chandler to hurt Monica? Shouldn't this be along the lines of Ross wrongly believing Chandler hurt Monica?

Gosh, that's quite a long list!

He-he, there are so many things wrong with that, but I've put it straight into list, unchanged. :)

Tennant's suggestions from August 5th...

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Having just seen "Bring It On", I guess that's why.

Because she found Chandler's description of his dad in Vegas very intriguing. I just hope Charles isn't a lurker as well as a drag queen.

Yep. Las Vegas, you're hereby warned..

I know! He's got a whole library full of them!

Especially that.

No, I was thinking he went to NYC during the last few years.

"I feel pretty, oh, so pretty, I feel pretty and witty and gay!!!" Maria sang this to her colleagues in the bridal shop in West Side Story, so I wouldn't mind seeing Charles dressed up as a Puerto Rican girl.

Or it could be that the people he met in Bakersfield were narrow-minded rightwing fanatics who disapproved of his sexual preference?

I think it's pantyhose, but I guess we need an American to get the correct answer. Sammi or Mardi perhaps?

Yep.

Yeah, my car has five forward gears too. However, I guess Ross would think it was too scary to drive in fifth gear.

Is she planning something? And if she is, does Chandler know about it?

Yep. Oh, do we already have that one? I can't keep track of the entries anymore..

Yep.

714, because Phoebe wondered whether she wanted to do exactly like her.

Especially when it comes to cars.

Yep. :)

Something for sweeps in season 8, perhaps?

I think it would have to be connected to 203.

I have no idea.

I think it would be in 714.

Yep.

I know, I just figured it would be perfect for Joey as well.

No, it was because Joey ate all the dessert, and Jack exclaimed that he was glad he wore the big belt after "eating" one portion.

If they had made the spitting minister perform their wedding, Monica would have been protected by her veil. We didn't see her wearing it in front of her face at the wedding, but in a case of emergency, I'm sure Rachel would have helped her putting it on. However, Chandler told Monica in the beginning of 716 that while she'd be wearing a veil, he didn't have any protection like that. A solution to this problem would of course be buying tiny windshieldwipers for his glasses and wear that.

I guess she'd have to take him to Europe to make it legal, then!

Yes, but I want to know if he was willing to sacrifice his womanizing ways for officiating at his best friends' wedding.

Absolutely! Maybe they're saving this gem for the day when she'll be waiting outside Monica's room at the hospital, anxious to hear whether she'll get a granddaughter or a grandson.

Phoebe wondered what was going to happen to the coffeehouse, while Monica just pointed out that this was the last time they would hang out at the coffeehouse as six single people.

Yep, it's a combination of 214 (Monica: "You're a cheaposaurus") and 723 (Chandler: "Listen, if you want to borrow money, its kind of a bad time. I�m buying dinner for 128 people tomorrow night.") I think I will put it in the latter, though.

Okay... But let me point out that I don't necessarily *want* to see all of these entries, I just find the ideas interesting.

I know!

Thanks. It does sound rather weird, doesn't it? :)

Lol!

You know, there is a rather good fanfic written about this episode, where Janine does not turn into a total bitch and moves in with Monica. http://members.nbci.com/sjwong2/CMStories/TOW611.html

I guess he didn't expect that.

Yep. As always, we need the jokes.

Why a tornado?

Okay..

Especially that.

I don't think he has ever disliked that. ;)

To prove that he was serious about his relationship with her by not bragging about it to everybody?

Right after they broke up or after she helped him with the couch or when she broke his knick-knack?

She was banned from the Pottery Barn stores for the rest of her life?

Yep.

Well... If you insist.

Hehe, weird.

I wonder if they had unagi there..

Joey would be so charming that the judges would let him win. Besides, it wouldn't hurt if he wore tight pants.

When was this?

Awww... *sniff*

Awww... *sniff:

That could very well be from her past.

Grin.

RPGOL!!!

Ah, clever.

Egg - getting dates. Shoe - running away from dates. Goldfish - in case her mom is hungry.

Asterisk after 405?

I hope this doesn't have anything to do with 4th of July.

Awww....  ;)

"I would love that job!"

Well, they did sound intriguing.

Why?

I guess you opted for Joey's lewd version, so here is mine that is more appropriate: Rachel threatening to kick Ross's ass if he hurts her sister.

Lol!

Perhaps Rachel moved it in case she needed the view.

Eh..

I don't even want to know... :)

Apartment pants?

Yeah, well... Maybe not.

And the difference between real life and Disney.

Well, she's not her colleague anymore.

Oh, I hadn't thought of that solution!

Lol!

That would mean that Jill is as rebellious as princess Stephanie.

Hehe.

Yes!

That would have been sweet!

Okay...

I hope he did, and that Jill is out there with five others...

Jessica Lockhart's cool character thing Coach Ruben teaching Chandler to appreciate butt-slapping. Joey shooting Oreos at the Germans in World War I Monica lending Charles her necklace Chandler making a new message for his and Monica's answering machine Chandler answering the phone right before he left for the rehearsal dinner Charles losing Monica's necklace and her reaction to it Charles borrowing Chandler's jewelry box Chandler's date right before his wedding Ross helping Phoebe fix her make-up Jack Geller meeting Charles Bing for the first time What Monica drank at the rehearsal dinner Why Ray Ban sponsored World War 1 Who was the big sponsor of World War 2 What happened to Richard Crosby after Joey "kidnapped" him Jack and Judy Geller's lists Monica's face as Rachel said "We can't find Chandler." Monica wearing her wedding dress every day. Joey marrying Rachel and himself on the phone. What Ross gave to Chandler up at the altar Joey accepting an Oscar on behalf of Richard Crosby Mrs Bing meeting lots of little Bings. Ross telling Monica he's sorry that Chandler has disappeared. Sorry Bing and Monica Geller tying the knot. Phoebe hunting Ross down and kicking his ass. Gunther getting an invitation for Monica and Chandler's wedding. Jack Geller on a date with Rita Moreno. Monica getting married without noticing Chandler is gone. The girls starring in a commercial for birth control. Charles Bing's hopeful face as he thinks Ross is interested in him. Rachel deciding to seduce the minister. Chandler dressing up as his Chinese ancestors. Chandler hiding in the Swedish spa. Chandler calling the Mormons, trying to find out about his ancestors. Chandler wearing a black cocktail dress, asking Ross up to his room. Charles and Nora using the pool boy as a pawn in "Cups". Chandler as Paul Newman, racing cars and making popcorn. Chandler doing volunteer work for charity. Monica going to lunch instead of getting married. Joey refusing to officiate because Monica's pregnant. Ross, Phoebe and Chandler playing hide and seek at the hotel. Charles Bing trying on Nora's wedding dress. Carol trying on Ross's tuxedo. Chandler at the gift shop, noticing the baby jumper. Chucky 3 scaring Chandler witless. Chandler giving Monica the baby jumper. Monica and Chandler's full names during their vows.

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Most likely, given the general population of that city- LOTS of rednecks!!. Bakersfield is known as the armpit of California (no offense to anyone here who lives there.) My older sister was born there, and it embarrasses her to no end!

usually "pantyhose", but the dictionary will let you use "pantihose", too.

Call it "Being Chandler Bing"

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Indeed? I didn't know that. Shall I put it in the review?

Thanks.

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OK, but not the part about my sister!

YW  :-)
:-)

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Of course. :)

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I guess it's like any other redneck-city. We have them here as well, and I doubt Charles Bing would have been accepted there. :)

Grin. That's probably the best explanation.

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Oh, very good, but don't you mean Cecilia Monroe?

I know that Coach Ruben was the guy who told Chandler that he was a little baby girl, but how does this fit the finale?

Oh yes. Eric Aasen mistook the prop bullets for prop coins, but are we sure that Joey was eating Oreos, and not just ordinary cookies?

Sorry, but why would that be interesting?

Before he heard "The Bings", so that he wouldn't freak out; or after he heard "The Bings" & freaked out, to see what he did then?

To find out who it was?

Oh, *now* I see why you wanted Monica to lend Charles her necklace.

Well sweetie, this is where you have to combine them... :)

Grin. The one that Joey gave him?

The wedding was at 6pm, so Chandler's date would have to be after the ceremony, but it could right before the reception...

Lol, well he has been using it for twice as long as her, I guess! :)

Wasn't that it?

Ah yes, it was different, wasn't it? Something non-alcoholic???????

There's no "why", as it was just a joke - can you reword this?

Lol!! I like it!

We already have this one.

Ah, well Rachel did say that, but I know what you mean. :)

Like Miss Haversham?

Hehe, the ultimate in phone sex?

What's this?

Tee-hee, you think Richard wouldn't show uo for the fourth time?

Awww... Mind you, the only Mrs.Bing these days is Monica...

Cute, but they did, didn't they?

Yers, Phoebe doesn't always keep her eye on the ball...

..but sometimes she does know how to get Ross moving.

Well, he *should* have done, shouldn't he?

Hehe, he should be so lucky!

How would that go?

Tee-hee, as the before shot?

Shouldn't that be "Helena"?

Greek Orthodox, or Church of the Seven Planes?

Yes, Phoebe was absolutely right to suspect that woman.

Why's this?

I know about the Mormon genealogical service, but why do you say this?

Why Chandler?

RPGOL! How would that work???

And making his marriage work at the same time.

Lol, Rachel was pretty desperate at this point, wasn't she?

RPGOL! See, sometimes Pheebs does think ahead... :)

With the phone off the hook?

Oh, I assumed he had his own wedding dress.

Shouldn't that be Susan? She's the dyke. Oh wait, no Susan back then. <G>

Aw..... :)

Eek.

At which point in the proceedings?

Oh, for sure. "Do you take each other?" was a swizz.

Tennant's suggestions from August 12th...

If Ross used to fall asleep on top of Rachel. Phoebe's life if she hadn't fallen out with Ursula. Phoebe's life if Lily hadn't killed herself. Phoebe's life if Monica had never rescued her. Phoebe's life if Duncan had admitted he was straight. Phoebe's life if David the scientist had not gone to Minsk. Phoebe's life if she'd had chicken pox as a girl. Phoebe's life if she had the courage to cross Rachel. The gang being flung into the air as big Monica sits on the couch. Ross boring Rachel on Boxing Day 1987. How come Phoebe & Monica had swapped bedrooms. Chandler writing for 'Talking Out of Your Ass' magazine. Ross playing Warden & Prisoner or Pirate & Wench with Phoebe. Joey pretending that his pick-up line is from "As the World Turns". Chandler being bright enough to strain the pulp from fresh juice. If Chandler was living alone, or sharing with Janine, or Denise. Rachel being a single girl who is on a break. Who had the affair with Kip to result in his ejection by the group. Ross getting confused between his father & Phoebe's boss. Beautiful big Monica shaking her booty for an Arab prince. If Carol used the threesome to legitimise an existing infidelity. What that weird chair was that Joey was sitting on. Rachel phoning all her friends from Joey Tribbiani's bathroom. How come Carol & Susan had swapped hairstyles. Phoebe & Joey enjoying cous-cous interruptus. Joey taking care of Rachel all night, like a perfect gentleman. If Ross was taking out coffee for himself & Carol & Susan. Rachel comforting Ross on the nearest horizontal surface. What became of famous Joey & married Rachel in the end. Who was Chandler's one love before Monica. How the other four reacted to Chandler & Monica getting together. Rachel discovering Ross & Phoebe squashed up together on the sofa. Why Ross suddenly mentioned that he used to have a monkey. Street Phoebe using her breasts to beg for money. Ross explaining to Rachel what any streetwise hoon could do to her. Monica's face when she receives hand-made crotchless panties. What Chandler was trying to make with papier mach�. Why Joey didn't tell Phoebe about the $2,000 identical twin study. Why Monica totally ignored her brother & friends in the hallway. Why Joey didn't choose one of the five actors who resembled him. Phoebe & Rachel inviting Ross to dinner, then serving unagidonburi. What else Chandler has thrown behind the night-stand. Carl messing up Joey at the big Minute Maid commercial. How Phoebe & Rachel pinned Ross down, or if he had lied all along. What Chandler's two most favourite meals are. A flashback to Janice giving Chandler the mix tape. Ross being straight with the karate instructor, to enlist his help. When exactly Ross & Rachel's divorce was finalised. Chandler & Janice having sexy fun with Rocky & Bullwinkle socks. Phoebe & Rachel being attacked, but Ross helps them beat the hoons. The "Hotties of the Paleontology Department" calendar. Chandler making up with Monica after the mix tape incident. Ross, Carol, Bernie, Susan, Howie, Chandler & two Danas at college. How much Joey owed Chandler, between $3,400 and $3,499. What Joey calls Friday, Saturday & Sunday. Rachel & Monica privately communing with Mother Nature. Ross hypnotising Phoebe into buying a fireproof axe. If the blue sweater came from Caesar's Palace. Monica warning a bored Pheebs about the dangers of candles. Chandler being off sick the day they did "pizza" in Movement class. Monica going out Jean-Claude Van Damme to do Joey a favor. Where Monica got all of the teddies from. Rachel cascading with red curls, but a classy red, not flaming. Where the napkin went. Monica telling Rachel & Phoebe how jealous she is of Dana Keystone. Rachel seeing Joey through new eyes as she learns to be a pig. What Ross did to get drunk in college, before he was 21. Rachel losing her temper with Joey, even though he's so pretty. Rachel lending Joey a Ralph Lauren tuxedo to escort her to the ball. Ross reminding Rachel about Josh, and Monica about Ethan. Chandler fighting off Joey's demands, to teach him a lesson. Chandler secretly conniving for Joey to acquire a new fridge. Phoebe innocently giving Joey $400, making the others feel guilty. Elizabeth wearing the skimpy bathing suit. Phoebe advising Ross about immature Elizabeth & his trust issues. Joey winning a new fridge at the charity ball, but Rachel claims it. Ross visiting his grandmother while he was in Florida. What happened to Joey's fridge in the end. Why Rachel is much more impressed by actor Joey than scientist Ross. The whole gang being chased by big flowers. Monica coming fourth in a Gale Weathers lookalike contest. Joey using an ansaphone-fax machine as a photocopier. Ross & Phoebe forming their own repertory company.

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No, I meant the character in DOOL. You can't really say "Jessica Lockhart's cool thing", because that would be misleading, so it's better to say "(...) character thing" IMHO.

It doesn't. It's a combination of 324 and 605.

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On second thoughts, you're absolutely right.

Oh.

Okay, so does it go at 32425 or 60526?

Good point.

Yersss...

LOL

Choose.

Little lols for the first two, and a big LOL for the third.

Okay then sweetie, it's gone in as...

Monica's reaction if Helena borrowed her necklace, then lost it.

Oh, I was talking about the gold bracelet in 214.

Yeah.

Oh, I got caught out again. The reason this happens is that when you talk about their first meeting, I assume you mean earlier, but in fact you're talking about later on. So let's try...

Jack finally meeting Charles Bing, while Judy is distracted by Nora.

..yes?

Oh, how so?

Oh, gotcha now!

Oh yes, I like that!

Hehe.

Great Expectations?

The romantic version of phone sex. :)

It looks like a handshake, but they use their left hands.

Maybe Matthew Perry had to keep his right hand closed.

Oh, I didn't doubt you, it went straight in.

As a compromise, how about...

Nora Bing meeting lots of little Bings.

Oh. But Sorry Bing left, and would have married somebody else.

Possibly Monana?

Only because he sucks...

Exactly.

RPGOL!!!

Because she was in denial, whereas we recognise his new identity.

That's what I meant by the Church of the Seven Planes.

Where in the finale should this go?

Okie dokie. :)

Oh, of course.

Yes I know, but why would you want to see Chandler do that?

Ahah, this is obviously a girl thing... ;)

Ah...

Yes, poor Rach!

She's the only one that's been married for more than 5 minutes.

Hehe.

DFY, I've put it in as your way.

Yep.

Hehe.

At least that would make a change from Ross skipping 4th grade appetisers.

Lol, how would that go?

Well, not *all*. Maybe they'll name their first daughter E---- after her.

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That's a tricky one. Coach Ruben is very important here, but so is the part from 324 with Joey's words of wisdom. If I have to choose, I would say 324.

The latter.

Smil. I feel bad for Gunther. A place on Judy's list doesn't make up for the gang not inviting him.

Good. :)

Yeah, I know, but I think the other one sounds more intriguing and bigger for some reason.

Exactly. Sorry about that. :)

Because it looks as if Rachel is the pregnant one. However, if Monica was suspicious and decided not to take any chances, it could have been non-alcoholic.

Well, you know, they're getting older... :) Perhaps they're facing reality after hearing Richard's friends (and their own) asking: "You know who just died?"

Of course! I completely forgot.

Lol. I wonder if that's the one you get for free.

Could be.. I'm keeping all options open, though.

TT. Too bad Michael Caine wasn't at the Oscars when he got his first award, though.

Yep.

Lol! Yes.

Yep. Do you think Monica would have found him if she'd discovered he was missing?

<g>

O-kay... Technically, we haven't heard of an operation, though...

Where did you get the name?

Right after she starts crying over her future, perhaps?

To see if he looks like his dad. :)

I think it would be hilarious!

I know Monica hasn't been married for longer than a couple of minutes, but Rachel was married a lot longer than that.

Pardon?

After the "any surprises that come our way" part. He could pull up the baby jumper and hand it to her while saying that this was for their future baby. Everybody in the audience would think it was terribly cute, while Monica would be genuinely touched by his future plans. His in-laws and Joey would also be impressed, while Ross and Phoebe would forgive him for running off. Rachel, on the other hand, would realise how much she's missing out on by becoming a single mother...

What if it's Emily? :)

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Okay.

Okay.

Oh, I dunno, he seemed to like her, didn't he? That cheeky little wave? Imagine the fuss when he later apologised to Rachel... :)

Okay.

Fair enough.

No need to apologise, I'm just glad I could make it clear.

Oh that. Do you want me to remove it from the list?

Indeed. But it's better than not getting older.

Doris Day said that the most worrying thing about middle age is knowing that you grow out of it.

Smil.

It should be!

Yeah.

His fault. He should've turned up.

Okay.

Okay, it's in. If you like, we could have...

Sorry Bing & Monana Geller tying the knot at ######################.

..where the hashes are an appropriate venue.

No. She would have asked Ross, and he couldn't find him.

It took the smartest one in the bunch to do that.

There doesn't have to be, it's all in the mind.

I asked a dear friend who's very good at research, and she found me a selection of internet ministries, of which I felt that the CotSP on http://www.sevenplanes.org/ was the most appealing.

Where?

I've just put this in the list...

If Charles Bing in men's clothing would look like Chandler.

Oh, I've only just put in the exact opposite.

It would creepy.

Only in law. How long was it from a sober Rachel realising that she was married to an angry Rachel wanting to end it?

Thinking about sex.

416 "TOW the Fake Party"...

ROSS: Okay, we could still make dinner if we skipped the appetisers and asked for our check right away.

707 "TOW Ross's Library Book"...

DIAZALIKE: Y'know, you look nothing like I would've thought. You're- you're so young. ROSS: Well I uh, I skipped fourth grade.

Wow, I like that. :)

Well done!!! You spotted that I left 4 dashes. It was Ross's choice for a daughter, and might explain why Phoebe has not middle-named Monica.

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There was only a slight possibility for that to happen, though. Besides, Gunther may want to meet a few beautiful women at the wedding after hearing what happened to Chandler.

No, we don't know anything for sure yet, and even though Rachel is pregnant, everybody could see that Monica drank something else at the rehearsal dinner, and I would like to know what.

Definitely.

That's true.

I know. He was on the set of Jaws 4 instead of receiving his Oscar. Not the decision of the year, to put it that way.

That seems likely, yes.

Yeah, she really saved the day, didn't she? :)

Okay. I only know about one transvestite/transsexual in the suburb where I live, and he goes by his real name, even when he's wearing women's clothing. :)

IC.

"I'm never gonna get married!" I guess her tears were crocodile tears, though.

Having a woman play Chandler's dad was a stroke of genius. Talk about future possibilities! :)

If Chandler Bing in women's clohing would look like Charles. I think you can count them both as valid entries. :)

That's true, but marriage *is* about law, not about feelings. Otherwise there would be lots of single people out there in the world. How would you explain to thousands of girls, forced into marriage by their families, that they're not married, just because they don't want to be married? (You'll have to excuse me, I feel *very* strongly about this... <g>)

Okay... :)

TT.

Hehe, thanks. That would be rather amusing.

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Depends on whether you want to become a vampire, I suppose. :)

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And give up fish & chips?

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Ironic isn't it - all the lovely fatty foods that would damage your health when alive, you can't eat when you become an immortal vampire! :)

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Except on _Buffy_, where Spike thinks the blooming onions at the Bronze are brilliant. :)

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I know - and it's even more ironic when you consider that I have only eaten fish & chips twice in the last six years, and on both occasions it tasted far more greasy than I remembered, or still imagine it to be.

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Of course, as a vampire you could hang around a chip shop at night, then eat the patrons, thus getting your fish&chip fix 2nd hand! :)

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Maybe Jasmine is in love with him.

Okay.

LOL! How true.

Errr.. The idea was that you would think of a venue, 22 max chars.

She certainly did. And unless Chandler is the father, Rachel should have confided in Phoebe for help, rather than worrying herself.

Okay, that's 72412 for now.

For sure, but maybe there was an inner truth here.

Yeah, but Kathleen Turner is a bit expensive for further episodes, though? I know she's been in three, but that was probably edited from only one filming session.

They are both valid, but two is a bit too much. How about...

If Chandler & Helena look like each other after swapping clothes.

I find it hard to believe that a transsexual still uses his old name.

Also, in the above section, if I had said "If Chandler & Charles look like each other after swapping clothes." then it wouldn't have conveyed the full picture that I was going for.

Okay, but Rachel filed for divorce as soon as she could, while the marriage would have been annulled if not been for the ineptitude of both her & Ross, in which case it legally wouldn't have happened.

Oh for sure, I'm not arguing against that.

Why did you grin at the end if you feel so strongly? (Just asking)

It would be interesting (though I'm not volunteering) to examine the 158 times they have referred to "Emily" to see if any of them could have been about Monica, but using her middle name.

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A girl who falls in love with her roommate? Perhaps that can happen to one of the main characters this season? ;)

Grin.

Lol! Oops! I must have overlooked that one. Hmmm... I don't know. Niagara Falls? Westminster Abbey in London? Sacre-Coeur in Paris? The Morgan Chase Museum in New York? The Little White Chapel in Las Vegas?

I know. She has proved that she can keep a secret (e.g. Ross and Rachel's "divorce" in 601-604), but after she revealed Monica's secret about London in 716, I would think twice before confiding in her. However, if Rachel was desperately looking for help, Phoebe would be the one to go to.

Could be. :)

Could be, but if Survivor gets enormous ratings this season, NBC could get desperate enough to pay Kathleen Turner lots of money to make her return.

If you insist. :)

Oh, he does. He walks around in my neighbourhood, wearing a skirt, even though he still uses his real name.

Fair enough. She was still married for a couple of weeks, though.

Good. ;)

I do feel very strongly about this, but I didn't want to offend anyone and sound like a total bitch. It's a bit hard to argue for these things on the net without sounding too aggressive. :)

Hehe, I'm not volunteering either. (I'm swamped right now. <g>) But if this were the case, it would be a stroke of sheer genius. We could have had the hints all along, and never realised they're right there in front of us until her name was revealed for real.

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Ooh, I hope so!

As some of those are a bit long, I had to cut them down a bit...

Sorry Bing & Monana Geller tying the knot at Niagara Falls. Sorry Bing & Monana Geller tying the knot at Westminster Abbey. Sorry Bing & Monana Geller tying the knot at Sacre-Coeur in Paris. Sorry Bing & Monana Geller tying the knot at Morgan Chase. Sorry Bing & Monana Geller tying the knot at a Las Vegas chapel.

..so which seems appropriate for Sorry & Monana?

Well, unless somebody blabbed to Rachel, she doesn't know that Phoebe revealed Monica's secret about London. Also, in the full version on DVD, Phoebe is apologetic, and Monica somewhat forgiving.

Indeed, and Phoebe was in on the whole test business anyway, while she couldn't say anything to Monica for fear of ruining the wedding.

In that case, maybe they'll fork out for Bruce Willis...

Okay, ta.

Are you sure you don't mean a transvestite?

Okay then.

Okay.

I know, and it could totally change the meaning of an episode.

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I know! It will provide the show with an interesting dynamic.

I don't know actually. Monana would probably go to a place where she wouldn't have to worry about the groom running off.

Okay, I've just seen this apology, and I'm still not impressed by her actions.

Yep. I wonder if she's going to steal Monica's thunder this time as well.

Yeah, you're right. Or perhaps they will do an episode called "The One With The Survivor", where they will vote people off the couch in Central Perk.

No, he's a transsexual. I've heard so much about this guy that I know that much. I'm not going to mention any of it here, though.

Absolutely.

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Hehe.

How about Alcatraz?

Indeed, but she had felt grievously betrayed by the Mother Hen.

I wonder too...

Lol, what they should do is put Eddie Cahill on than desert island...

Oh.

On the other hand, it could be Esther. :)

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What if Nicolas Cage and Sean Connery show up? ;)

Hmmm... I dunno. I thought she was awful.

I just hope that if she steals Monica's thunder, it will be inadvertently.

LOL!! With no chance of getting off the island until the show is off the air for good.

Pardon? It might be Evelyn.

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I'm not sure. When the movie was on, it was so "exciting" that I grew bored, and switched it off. The best I can say for "The Rock" is that "Gone in Sixty Seconds" was even worse, though "Con Air" comes close.

But apart from that, how do you like...

72365/CM/Sorry Bing & Monana Geller tying the knot at Alcatraz.

..or can you think of some other venue?

She was, but she's had some bad stuff happen to her in the past.

She didn't try to steal Monica's thunder in S7-01, but it could be interesting to see what Rachel goes through to avoid spoiling the rest of the wedding celebration.

Exactly, or send *him* to Alcatraz with Cage & Connery.

Esther is more Jewish.

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I have not seen GiSS yet (it's a flick about people stealing cars, how interesting can it be?), but I liked Con Air's theme song. ;) Seriously, though, the latter was okay, mainly because of Steve Buscemi.

Sounds okay to me! :) Or it could be in the prison from Face/Off since that was also rather secure until Nicolas Cage arrived. Not exactly a romantic place, though.

True.

When Rachel heard that Monica thought she was just jealous, she wanted to steal her thunder.

Yep.

Or better yet, don't send Connery, since he'd know his way out of the prison on Alcatraz. ;)

Oh, I see, I thought the name had been mentioned on the show. How many names have we had on Friends that start with an E? Hey, what if her name is Emeril? ;)

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The film's excitement excitement excitement excitement excitement excitement excitement excitement excitement excitement excitement excitement excitement excitement excitement excitement excitement excitement excitement excitement excitement excitement excitement excitement excitement excitement excitement excitement excitement excitement excitement excitement excitement excitement excitement excitement excitement excitement excitement excitement excitement excitement excitement excitement excitement - see how boring that becomes?

Hmmmmm....

Let's stick with Alcatraz. :)

Yep.

That was just an angry snap, as Rachel then explained that she was with Ross that night because she was sad. She was very happy for Monica, but the engagement just reminded her that she wasn't even close to getting married herself, so she just wanted to make herself feel better, as did Monica when Ross got married, and she was sorry she'd ruined her night.

Yap.

No, just the initials MEG in 221 "TOW the Bullies".

In speaking parts, twelve - Earl, Eddie, Eldad, Elizabeth, Emeril, Emily, Eric, Erica, Erin, Ernie, Estelle, and Ethan.

Cooking birds?

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Oh, I see. Sounds, ahem, intriguing and Oscar-worthy...

Well, it's the same thing as Armageddon IMHO. Buscemi plays a nutcase in both films and is far better than any of the rest.

Yep. A prison on an oilrig is not the perfect place for a wedding.

Angry - yes. She was sad as well, but she also became rather selfish the moment she decided to "steal Monica's thunder". Having said all that, I agree with what you say, I just think Rachel's behaviour was terrible, no matter how depressed she was. She did apologize, though, and fortunately, Monica was too happy to think Rachel really meant it.

I know that, I just thought you meant that the name Esther had been mentioned on the show, not necessarily as a thing that had to do with Monica.

Okay. Let's see:

Monica Elizabeth Bing Monica Emeril Bing Monica Emily Bing Monica Erica Bing Monica Erin Bing Monica Estelle Bing

2, 3 and 6 are rather intriguing. :)

Yep, since that would make a lot of sense: She loves cooking and prefers dead birds.

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Exactly.

Oh, as Bruckheimers go, Armageddon is enjoyably stupid in that the gang can have fun pulling it to shreds (we tore Perfect Storm apart the other night) whereas GiSS & CA are boringly stupid in that they're a monotone.

No, it's the perfect place for a Jerry Bruckheimer movie...

I think we should accept Monica's acceptance.

Oh sorry.

How about Monica Eirin Bing?

And they're quieter that way.

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Yeah, when Angelina Jolie couldn't save Tomb Raider, she couldn't possibly save this one.

I liked The Perfect Storm! It was among the first movies that I watched on DVD. As for Con Air, I guess I liked it more than you did. :)

Yep, he should stick to oilrigs and don't go near Hawaii ever again.

Yep.

DFY. :)

Lol! Brilliant! ;)

Yep. Especially with all those knives and cookbooks lying around...

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Oh, I wanted to see Angela Lansbury running down those tunnels...

Didn't you notice how the seascapes looked totally false? Or wonder why not a single fisherman seemed to have a normal life? Or reckon that the captain should have made one of the men climb along the outrigger? Or why they didn't stow the outriggers in the first place? Or ride out the storm in the deep ocean, then go home & tell the owner it was his fault the freezer broke, so he could damn well pay them anyway to get his boat back? Or use the rotting fish to catch more fish on the way back?

You just liked it because of Clooney Baby, didn't you hon? :)

Eep, don't get me started... ;)

Absotutomento!

Thanks, sweetie.

Say "hi" for me.

X Zactly!

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What bugged me about Perfect Storm was such a big deal was made about it being a true story, but you get to the end and everybody dies, what's up with that? How does any one know what went on after they left port? For all anyone knew the crew could have just spent the whole trip drinking beer and watching videos or something :)

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If you listen to the director's commentary on the DVD, you'll hear that this is what attracted him to the book, since once they went to sea all that was known was a few radio messages, so he was free to make up the rest of the story as he wished.

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While typing feverishly on a typewriter? ;) I think Tomb Raider is the most boring movie I've seen in years. I almost fell asleep while she was running around in the snow.

Yes, but I was trying to see if I could recognize the set from "Titanic".

They were depressed and poor... The start of the movie is really depressing.

I'm no sailor, so I have no idea, sorry.

fault

boat

I kept wondering why they didn't throw all that fish overboard and rush back home to start modelling careers...

Clooney was fine, and what about Wahlberg? ;)

As long as you don't mention 720 again... ;)

She liked that suggestion. :)

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Yeah, or polishing her knobs.

Hehe, have you seen the TV show "Relic Hunter"?

Oh, how come?

I know, but don't any Gloucestermen have wives & families?

Okay, but Clooney's character was, so he should have known better.

LOL!!!

I'd only just watched "Three Kings" and yet I wasn't sure which of two sailors he was. Have you seen him in "Rock Star" with JA? On the basis of that movie, she had better not give up her day job.

Deal.

Yay!

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Lol. She needs a teapot as well.

No, is it just as bad as Tomb Raider? Meanwhile, the show "Alias" has just premiered in the States, and that was actually a believable "girl beats all the guys" show.

Because I'm pretty sure I heard that they were both filmed on the same set in Rosarito, Mexico.

They had girlfriends... Well, Wahlberg's character had a girlfriend.

Hehe, okay.

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Yep, I've seen that flick, and his performance was good.

Coworker: "Hey, are you wearing mascara?" Chris (Wahlberg) "Yeah, I'm a rockstar" Coworker: "Oh, I see."

Grin.

Hehe. Let's just hope there are no 720s in season 8.

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Oh yes, that was potty - but beware when she has only one eyebrow.

Some say it's better, and Tia Carrere is very easy on the eye.

Oh? I've not heard of that.

I wouldn't have thought so, but what do I know? :)

He was the baby. At least some of the others should have been settled.

Okay.

Me2, but I hear the movie bombed, big time.

Sweetheart, there won't even be a 720 in 820! :)

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I'm not too worried about that. Keanu Reeves didn't have any eyebrows in some of the scenes in The Matrix, and he managed to beat all the bad guys...

Gosh, I haven't seen her since Wayne's World.

The pilot was amazing, and EW called it the best drama of the new season. It stars Jennifer Garner (the shy nurse in "Pearl Harbour"), and Victor Garner (Thomas Andrews in "Titanic") plays her father. They are double agents in the CIA. I wouldn't be surprised if it shows up on British TV soon.

I think they were. I know Titanic was filmed there, as well as Tomorrow Never Dies. I couldn't find any information about The Perfect Storm's sets on IMDB, though.

Yep.

Unfortunately, it did.

Thank goodness! If they start doing something like that in November, I will be so annoyed. (They even had to put the lesbian kiss in the new opening credits!) The uncut version of 720 was slightly better than the original, though. There was an extended scene where you got to see Chandler in Pierce Brosnan's tux, and that was hilarious.

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That's because they tried to chain him, but he reacted too quickly.

Not even in True Lies?

Very probably. "Band of Brothers" starts here tonight, so everyone's looking forward to see how good David Schwimmer is - and of course, we get it in beautiful anamorphic widescreen! :)

Me neither, I'll take your word for it though, no worries.

Yes, it was great to see a lost scene that had been described in a filming report actually turn up on an extended DVD, after the great disappointments of some previous episodes, most especially 717.

But was the jacket all *that* big? Perry wears the left side in a sloppy, almost off-the-shoulder fashion. If only he'd pulled it in a bit, the jacket would have been more reasonable.

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Can I also butt in here and say that Monica's middle name should be Elsie. It's a very silly name and would fit in with Jack and Judy's unthoughtfullness...

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Still silly! How about Edwina...as in Edwina Curry....what a silly name!

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Exactly....I mean Monica would want to keep that one a secret!

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Maybe it's Elizabeth, there's been enough of those on the show.

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Yes...I've also noticed a lot of uncommon names such as Petree and Carlos.

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Petree?

Chandlers workmate

One of Monica's kitchen hands was named Carlos, and there was a Carlos on Tom's speed dial, but that's all.

Two Carlos's is quite uncommon I would have thought!

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Oh sorry, Petrie in 122 "TOW the Ick Factor", and not since.

If you like. :)

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Yeah, sorry if I was unclear!

Carlos

Ok ok, I mean what are normal American names? If you can call them that I mean Chandler certainly isn't!

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nationalities,

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Ohhh I see, but surely none of the actors have changed theirs?

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Before or after the Hug 'n' Roll?

We have tons of sweeps material here.

Lol. Like a Roman catapult...

Hehe. Playing Interplanetary Courtship Ritual...

Pardon? Phoebe went into Monica's bedroom, sat down on something, causing Monica to scream whether she sat on her Kit Kats. Why would Monica put her chocolate bars in Phoebe's room?

I don't think that would have been a best-seller.

Haha. I'm not surprised at all.

Lol!

He could simply have asked Monica to help him..

Or he could still be living together with Eddie.

How would that go?

I hope it was Monica, to prove that her looks don't matter.

Is it because both of them were named Jack?

RPGOL!! On location, or would they have to bring one to the USA?

Ross wouldn't know as he had no idea about his girlfriends cheating on him in college...

Basketballs.

Lol! I hope she didn't call Monica!

I guess trends in fashion aren't reasons enough for you? ;)

Pardon?

Awww....

Could be.

Preferrably a pool table or a coffee table??

Fame and divorce, respectively...

He could have met Janice. If he had been writing for a newspaper in the past, and she had worked as a photographer for that newspaper, there could have been love in the air.

Yes! I've always wanted to see if Ross became overprotective once he realised that his little sister was dating an unemployed writer.

Heh..

The mind of Ross is a mystery..

Hah!

She's rather na�ve to have been living in NYC for the past seven years.

Lol!

Flannendellarts. ;)

Not just a mere coincidence then?

Unagi, plus the trash was more important than her friends... j/k

I didn't think any of them resembled him that much.

Would Monica be making it, or...?

Lol! I'm not sure I want to know about that! :)

Lol. I hope Joey didn't turn into Red Joey afterwards.

I think we saw some of the fighting that was missing from 617, in 706.

Definitely. I hope he gets at least one of his favourite meals on his wedding day.

Absolutely!

Yep! He really made a fool out of himself here, and I hated Ross in this episode.

Yep. Perhaps they celebrated with a divorce reception and a divorce shower.

Lol!!

They can do it themselves. :)

Perhaps Elizabeth would buy all of them?

Awwww... Absolutely. She'd tell him what to do, he would fix it, and she'd think he was all cute again. ;)

Lol! And the lady who cleaned their dorm.

Yep. A charity event should cover it.

Friends day, Sandwich day, Sunset day? j/k

Lol! Ewww...

Why Ross?

Oh, definitely!

Hehe, they're even worse than the crumbies.

Pizza is trickier than macaroni and cheese, I guess.

If Joey knows what's best for his career, I would tell him to stay far away from the Muscles from Brussels.

Perhaps the teddybears are the only childhood memories she has now?

Like Nicole Kidman?

Rosita knew, but she's dead, so...

Awww... You don't know what you have until you get jealous?

Hehe. Perhaps an asterisk right now?

Perhaps he asked someone to buy it for him.

Hehe. Cute.

She should have!

Because they were teasing him about Elizabeth?

Joey deserved it, but Chandler is too kind to refuse to help him. :)

You don't think Monica would approve of it?

Exactly. She chipped in at Howard's birthday party, so why shouldn't she help her friend?

Eh..

Hehe.

Which reminds me: What Joey called his old fridge.

I hope he did!

I'd say he threw it away,but I guess that's not what you were looking for. :)

Because she watches actors in her spare time, not scientists.

It's rather weird that no one got frightened at the wedding...

Hehe.

The wonders of modern day technology, right?

Pardon?

Monica asking Kermit the Frog to slap her. Ben telling Pete he'll never beat Superman Chandler waiting for Pink Floyd to come out. Rachel, Monica and Phoebe waiting for a comedian. (Just to clarify, I meant what I said, not what they were saying metaphorically...) Cave people trying to figure out when the glacier is going to hit them Pre-historic Phoebe protecting her sisters from the evil cavemen What Chandler wrote on his little note The big ceremony the Gellers arranged before Monica was born. Rachel losing her engagement ring in the lasagna Ross spending two hours to recover from the shock Carol gave him Miss Ludwin falling in love with Ross Miss Ludwin using Ross to get to Monica and a job offer Paranoid Marty Willick [being afraid of something, but I cannot come up with what...] Little Monica staying alone in her room, reading a book Chandler's imaginary friend his parents preferred. What was wrong with Jason Greenstein Rachel telling the entire story about her and Ross to Robbie Barry and Mindy getting a tan on the beach in Aruba Barry chasing Rachel with a drill Phoebe saving the world and getting bigger boobs. Omnipotent Chandler making Monica realise he's boyfriend material Joey counting how many steps it is from his place to Ross's Phoebe buying hearing aids and Viagra to Frances and her boyfriend A desperate Chandler looking for Halloween costumes all over NYC Rachel and her friends studying Wild Kingdom Rachel putting chocolate blobbies on the cookies Phoebe borrowing Joey's tweezers in order to play Operation Big Bird helping George Stephanopoulos plan Bill Clinton's campaign A coma guy waking up and laughing at Ross's "first time" story Why Monica made Phoebe eat meat in a "vegetarian" pate Ross helping Phoebe with her childhood traumas Chandler having romantic dreams about Jason Alexander Joey starring as Dovregubben in Peer Gynt Monica pronouncing Chandler's name with an accent to please him Aurora driving to Yemen to give Chandler a ride home Richard Leakey's theory about monogamy Why Joey didn't borrow Chandler's moisturizer Chandler scrubbing Monica's pan just the way she likes it to please her An excited Al Pacino after being cast as Joey's butt Judy telling Monica to date the guy who stole Joey and Chandler's furniture Rabbi Tribbiani officiating in the next wedding Chandler teaching Monica his and Joey's secret language Roy Disney threatening to sue Ross and Carol The Disney staff kicking Ross and Carol out of the Magic Kingdom Rachel and Barry playing minigolf If Monica always has sugarfree gum for Chandler Phoebe in charge of the countdown for the American spaceshuttles

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Neither - that was when they just slept together... ;)

Oh for sure, but these were all turning points in Phoebe's life, none of which were used for TOT Could Have Been. Instead the whole stock-broker thing was pulled out of the air, unlike her friends.

Exactly, to land with five big splashes in the fountain!

Oh god yes. Can you imagine how awful that must have been?

Oh, I thought it was Phoebe's room.

They'd have to change the name to "The Washington Times".

Yeah, but which one was the wench? ;)

Neat, eh?

Yes, yes, he could - but it's staggering how dumb Chandler can be sometimes, yet cynics never wonder how he manages to walk upright.

Not really, since Eddie would still be crazy.

Oh gosh I don't know, it needs about a hundred episodes to go it justice.

I sympathise, but it wouldn't have been, would it?

Yep.

She'd be kidnapped at a New Jersey culinary fair by white slavers, then smuggled out of the country to an oil sheik's desert palace.

Oh for sure he wouldn't, but that doesn't mean that Carol didn't already know Susan. For all we know they still met in 1993.

Basketballs?

I know! She wouldn't have her number though.

If it was a fashion trend they'd both be curly, or both straight.

It's like coitus interruptus, only with cous-cous.

Both Chandler & Monica and Ross & Rachel have had cous-cous meals go other than as planned.

Our hero. :)

Is that the only time we've seen takeout coffee at Central Perk?

Or a laboratory bench. :)

And then?

Could be, but then why didn't he say so?

This Chandler was so shy around women, that it seems to me it would have to be someone who'd throw herself at him anyway...

Or more dramatically, he could have such a low opinion of her that he suspected Chandler of dishonourable intentions. :(

Yes, as soon as we return to the 'real' world, they there are again, sitting as though they're joined at the hip - but this time the boys can see them, so it's just Rachel & Monica who don't know.

Indeed.

BEG

I know. Having seen "Crouching Tiger Hidden Dragon" I can believe that with a modicum of training Phoebe really can kick Ross's ass, (maybe it turns him on), but Rachel after just one lesson up against some evil twisted type (not a scared mugger)? No way.

Chandler would be so dead.

Huh?

How do you mean?

Hmmm...

Not much, but Carl was the least.

Japanese takeaway.

I know. Creepy.

RPGOL! Thank goodness that after he got fired from DOOL he didn't turn into Mental Tribbiani! :)

That's right, I believe that Phoebe could do it, and Ross had been exaggerating if not lying about his karate - it's more likely that he went to ballroom dancing classes.

That would be nice, but it's more likely to be something poached.

Yep.

I agree to a certain extent, but it's mainly the fault of the poor script. The mix tape was good, so that must have been another writer.

With divorce presents for Rachel?

Hehe.

Depends on how many hoons there are, or maybe Phoebe is hindered through having to protect an impetuous Rachel. Then they are not rescued by Ross, it's all three friends working together to defeat the bad buys, and from then on Phoebe (and more so) Rachel adopt a more responsible attitude.

Or maybe she sells all of them?

Yep, probably with help from his dictionary. Of course, if he was to use a helicopter dictionary it would be YRROS ACINOM in sticks.

Who presumably had all eight of them...

Easily - just as long as we know the actual amount.

Oh yes, the first two are very good, but the last one is Son Day where he visits his mom - for free laundry & tiramisu.

Hehe, you got it. :)

Because he's had training in Atlantic City.

Yep.

Yes indeed, but maybe I got that wrong, it should have been Rachel warning a bored Pheebs about the dangers of candles.

Why, what's the mime for macaroni and cheese?

It's better than gay porn.

Awwwwwww.... *poor* Monica!

A bit, but classier yet, more tawny.

..so ask Stevie?

Oh, I wasn't thinking of it like that. Monica was really great about the whole thing, displaying only a token jealousy to show Chandler that she cared, but trusting him completely.

But she must have been a bit more churned up with that, and we so need a nice scene where they all girl-talk the whole thing out.

We're very close, but I don't want to invoke Hubris.

Could be, but we never heard.

Yeah. :)
I knowwwww!!!!!!!

Exactly.

So Chandler needs to toughen up.

She helps, as long as the barcalounger goes back.

That's right, sweetie - you're spot on.

She promised!

Yup.

Midge?

Yes, and we learn what her name is.

Do people throw away fridges in Norway? It's illegal here.

Yes indeed.

Wait until they see the giant centrepieces at the reception...

Grin. She did look a bit like her though.

Yeah, except my sister had one about 5 years ago.

Maybe the Americans haven't caught up yet.

It's a group of actors who put on their own productions.

RPGOL!!! I didn't know she was that kind of fan!

Because Ben is on Ross's side, Monica's side, Joey's side, or Chandler's side?

It's why he bought the ticket!

Well actually, I immediately got what you meant literally, but I'm a little puzzled about your metaphor, assuming you're referring to more than a kiss.

Signed by Slartibartfast?

Come again?

A pros & cons list about Monica & Rachel?

Awww... this was so sad. Poor Mon.

It's a good job she didn't borrow it from Monica!

Where do you suppose he went?

Very clever, but doesn't the second one contradict the first?

That Susan will turn him into a lesbian?

Yeah, this is what I mean when I say that, in his own way, Jack Geller was every bit as bad as Judy.

This often happens - my niece's imaginary friend was a girl of the same age who used to tell her off when she was naughty, and tidy up behind her.

He ate either a toy or kiwi lime pie, while his sister or girlfriend was supposed to be baby sitting...

Beginning with 9th grade Typing?

What about the lizards?

LOL! A portable one, of course.

But why isn't Rachel chasing Barry?

Thankyou.

Lol, should this be with omnipotence at 10402, or Monica checking him out as boyfriend material during Strip Happy Days at 32555?

Why?

And this will make them quieter?

Oh, I'd forgotten there was another Hallowe'en reference.

Why studying? (as with most of these, it's in, but I'm interested.)

Awww... This was such a clever line, for Rachel to pretend that her highest aspiration involves cooking, her most hopeless inability.

Wow sweetie, this very clever. We already have "Where Phoebe put the tweezers so she can operate again" but I'm ditching that in favour of this one. Of course, Joey can trust her to return the tweezers without losing them, else he would never be able to cry again... ;)

Hehe, I'm surprised that George Snuffalopagus wasn't Chandler's best man.

Who then tells what he heard on the TV news.

Ah yes. You suspect it was no accident, then?

Oh, yes! I assume you mean like Sigmund Freud?

Now you've got me.

Okay clever clogs, I know Henrik Ibsen is one of your lot, but who's this Dovregubben malchick? :)

BTW, please note that I've refrained from any Hedda Gabler jokes...

Ah, but the poor girl can't do accents. :(

ROTFL! Wonderful! But 10627 or 51251?

Or Phoebe wanting to hear Richard Leakey's theory about monogamy, but she has to do the sleeping joke with the rest of the gang?

Maybe she could ask Ross about it later?

Or did she only take an interest in Ross's science after their debate in 203, or was it after starting adult education classes?

When he can use Monica's?

With a plastic brush? Well, he would, wouldn't he?

Or can you think of some unforeseen difficulty?

Lol!!

Hah! Another clever one! 10707 or 40282?

Tee-hee... Next for us in S8 onwards, or next for them in S1 onwards?

Well yes, but would she be able to learn it?

Lol! But couldn't Ross counter-claim, for Space Mountain?

Hehe. I notice that Joey's was the women's room on the second floor of the NYC public library, so did this inspire S7-07?

Or Barry trying to play, while Rachel is all over him?

Oh, another clever one, and very sweet. :)

Lol yes, especially if one fails to take off!

It's amazing that people think of Phoebe as stupid, but how many stupid people count backwards, let alone keep going below zero?

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If Chandler & Monica's joint horoscope came true. Phoebe licking her lips & making eyes at Ross. Phoebe's first 14 books. Phoebe's guitar tutor telling her that she didn't like the books. Ross meeting Paul at a parent-teacher conference. Joey taking CHEESE to the cinema, to see "Short Circuit". The really cool robot designed for Season Two of "Mac & CHEESE". Why Phoebe wrecked Monica's attempts to talk her brother up. How come most of the people in Paul's life have died. What happened to the other part of Paul's college roommate. Paul insisting to Rachel that he doesn't resemble any film star. Whose key chain it was, with a pink fuzzy ball on the end. Joey's face when Wayne had CHEESE ruin his sandwich. Rachel becoming Chandler's wife's brother's wife's father's wife. Why Rachel is running around after a lawyer instead of a doctor. Joey bringing CHEESE to Monica's, where it wrecks her spatulas. Monica sleeping with Joey on the side because he's so charming. Chandler banging a table, to make all the plates rattle. Joey teaching Wayne how to talk to women. Who was legally married to Ross for longer, Emily or Rachel. Rachel's many negative stories about Ross. The lesbian/video-game/sandwich exhibit at Morgan Chase. The girls at a hippity-hop/spatula/strappy-backed-dress exhibition. Ross convincing Paul that he's Elizabeth's baby-sitter. Phoebe whispering to Ross that she's interested in fossils. Paul Stephens building the Panama Canal. Joey pointing out that all Italians are branded as gangsters. Why Ross stripped in the lounge, instead of by the hot tub. A massage client tipping-off Phoebe about a wedding cancellation. The dry cleaner saying his wife's name. Why Gunther waited so long to ask Joey if he still worked for him. Ross running Joey under hot water & banging his head on a table. Chandler rejecting ugly rings at 8,999,999 jewelry stores. Whether Phoebe is a pacifist or a militarist. The other surefire way that Monica uses to shut a man up. Why Chandler's $8000 ring wasn't carefully put to one side. How come nobody shot Phoebe when she brandished a gun at the shop. Helena in Vegas kissing Ross, Jack, Joseph, Leonard, Frank & Frank. Joey at the Knicks game with Paul clinging onto him. Phoebe holding the ring out to Chandler, to ask him to marry her. Phoebe saying the restaurant is something to do with a rainbow. Phoebe warning Chandler not to get inside her head. Chancy & Wuss solving crimes, aided by the spirit of Hard Ass Vunda. Why Ross doesn't seem to care that Rachel has just dumped Paul. If Street Phoebe managed to survive by picking pockets. Why Chandler didn't stand behind Monica to put his jacket on her. If the hungry fat girl made Monica call out to Richard. Chandler walking in on both his parents making love to the same guy. Richard reciting all of "The Song of Hiawatha" as a toast. Why Ross didn't mention that the restaurant was Richard's favourite. How come the boat turned up outside Central Perk. Rachel & Phoebe obeying the omen of the napkins. Rachel, Joey & Phoebe helping Monica set out all the candles. Tears running down Monica's cheeks.

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I guess you could say that the "secret crush" was Richard if they had the same horoscope.

Grin.

Proving she's a better author than Nora.

Hehe, clever.

Gosh, that would cause quite a stir!

I guess the title says it all?

That was capable of picking up sandwiches which it had already knocked off the table.

To keep Ross or Paul to herself.

Everyone had tried to date his wife or his daughter, and he killed them afterwards.

Hehe.

"I don't look like that dead guy!"

Jasmine? I dunno...

He was willing to get shot to save his sandwich, so I guess Wayne would be in trouble...

Hehe, crazy!

One word: Biceps.

And it springs a leak on the table?

Hehe, he wishes!

Why is this?

And Chandler flunking the subject.

Definitely!

Eighteen pages - front and back - would not suffice.

Lol!

RPGOL!!!

I guess very few babysitters appear on MTV. :)

Hehe.

Pardon?

Definitely! Almost all Italians are members of the mob in the movies.

I asked myself the same question when I saw that scene.

Hehe, clever.

It's not that important, but okay. :)

Having Joey around means more contact with Rachel, if that's possible.

LOL!

Well, he wanted the perfect ring for his girlfriend. :)

A militarist who loves peace? I have no idea.

Food, perhaps?

Good point. A more professional shop would have put it away properly until Chandler returned.

Definitely! You'd think there would be a trigger-happy security guard nearby.

LOL!!!

Courtside as well?

Awwww... What if Monica saw them and got the wrong idea?

Yes, I remember reading the spoiler that mentioned this.

Yep, and Ross is the only one with access to Chandler's head, apart from Monica of course.

Cute!

He's rather self-involved, isn't he?

Awww...

He's not a proper gentleman...

I hope not!

Ewwww...

Was that the title of the poem?

I guess the only thing he could think about was his problems with Elizabeth.

Angels...

Hehe. Who knows?

And Monica crying happily, anticipating the moment she has dreamed of for years...

A couple of real "sniffs". :)

The Brown Birds warning Paul that Ross has inappropriate intentions Why Joey's panther-table started running up the walls Shelley flushing herself down the toilet Ross telling Susan Sallidor Chandler is gay Chandler dating Bernie Spellman Monica telling Rachel Chandler is gay on Thanksgiving 1987 Jack catching Althea as she steals Sweet'n'Los from their kitchen Vidal Buffay giving everybody homosexual haircuts Lily Buffay sitting on Chandler Everybody onboard the Mr Bowmont as they bury Jack Ross spending an entire day thinking about Monica's ears Chandler telling Monica her ears are one of her best features Paolo sending Rachel thousands of shoes from Rome Phoebe searching for her bearings Judy insisting on burying Althea with Rachel's shoes Chandler celebrating Mardi Gras with the guys in Financial Services The gang inviting Carol and Susan over for Thanksgiving dinner Susan talking about Ross to the fetus Phoebe talking to Ross while his head is inside a turkey Chandler putting butter on Ross's head Joey telling Rachel Macy's is much better than Bloomingdale's The gang admiring the flying dog from the roof Why Joey didn't knock the door off it's hinges on Thanksgiving 1994 Dr. Robert Pillman giving career advice to Chandler Chandler making a speech in Washington in front of thousands of spectators Monica making dinner for three bears and [the English name for that woman with the golden hair. I'm afraid I only know the Norwegian name, so you'll have to fill in the blank here. :) ] Ross introducing Cheryl to his monkey What Marcel would have grabbed on bald Bonnie Chandler stealing Monica's phone pen Steve smoking a joint in Phoebe's cab Phoebe saving Richard from drowning by throwing a Sugar-O to him Rachel dating a guy who makes her toes curl Ross and Rachel going back in time in order to date Emily and Barry getting their revenge for receiving "rude letters" Chandler listening proudly as Monica stars as Grizabella in Cats Chandler and Rachel stealing Mr Heckles's Belgian waffles Mr Heckles on Who Wants To Be A Millionaire Rachel babysitting Monica's phone pen Rachel babysitting Debbie, the yellow pencil Danny, Chandler and Joey climbing Mount Everest

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He could well be.

Sigh...

Hehe. Adeline & I devised a bibliography...

   Never Run on the Barge
   Judy Jetson Thermos, Randy Brown & Other Stupid Twin Stuff
   The Oven in the Kitchen
   My Life in a Gremlin
   All Cops Must Die Now
   Italy, Czechoslovakia, and Belorussia on a Dollar a Day
   Neil & Betty, Where They Went Wrong
   Jingle Whore, or the Traps, Pitfalls & Things Not To Do in a Friendship
   Erotic Pottery For Fun & Profit
   Sandwiches, Baseball, and Chester
   My Secret Love That Dare Not Speak Its Name
   Ruth's Truth
   I Loved You, You Lying Bitch
   Dum-dum-dum, La-la-laa, and Other Flaky Tunes
   Gellers in the Mist

Thanks, sweetie.

I know!!

Yes, CHEESE was that sort of technology, very out-dated now.

Tidying up, or like a continuity error?

Oh yes, I like it! :)

Ohhh.....

Exactly.

Dead guy?

That's a good idea.

Indeed. Something must have happened, maybe it caused the cancellation.

Good, innit? :)

Oh! So why doesn't she run around after a processing supervisor?

What? As in oil line, do you mean? Is that better than monkey pee?

It was her idea...

Because here, Ross banged the table so hard, he made all the spoons bounce - while in 718 "TOW Joey's Award", Joey banged the table so hard, he made all the glasses jump. So Chandler & the plates would complete an agitated cutlery/glassware/crockery hat-trick.

Awwww... he passed his test with Monica.

Yeah, but who?

I know... :(

Hehe.

<beams>

Course they do, but without the babies.

Yep, both types.

This is a naughty one.

Ross described Paul as a man with a plan, so he'd be...

A man, a plan, Panama!

..still none the wiser?

And all Norwegians are blonde vets.

Your Royal wedding appeared on our TV news, by the way.

Yup. We need to know this.

Thanks! :)

It's needed for the list of relationships.

Could be, could be.

Hehe.

Awww...

She's a puzzle, that one.

No, because Monica has never had to use the other way.

That's right, and also Phoebe's time on the streets should have taught her how to guard her stuff.

I know! With all the alarms going, too. And it's America.

Grin. I knew you'd get that one.

Why so?

It would be a good story.

That's right, this suggestion is from a deleted scene, as is the one above & the one below.

Ross?

In between crimes, Vunda could visit Lily & Frances.

I'm afraid so, even though this event endangered his career.

It looks like she did, but times were tough.

Hah, I didn't mean it like that, although you do have a point. But if he'd stood behind her, then he could have kept the ring hidden.

Well, why did she?

It was a damaging moment in his childhood, very germane to his character.

It's what I've always called it.

What problems? He'd been to his first non-geeky Spring Break with her, the old man was now on-side (plus keeping the jealous ex-wife busy), and Monica had yet to ask Ross where his relationship was going.

Yes Joey, the boat angel came to NYC and brought your boat.

They didn't then, and now look what's happened.

Awwww... <sniff>

Yes indeed, but something I've not been able to spot on the DVD. :(

Lol, that's very clever, but where should it go - 310 or 621?

It couldn't be the same Elizabeth, she was 17 back then, but if that scrud Charla Nichols is the same age as her actress she'll be 16 next season, and could return to wreak vengeance on Ross.

I know what the table was, but running up walls?

Poor woman. You'd have thought Chandler would've invited her (and Helen) to be a blue pin, and see for herself how straight he is?

And as for everyone else who's jibed him over years, would that they had one tenth of Shelley's shame.

Would that he had one thousandth of Shelley's shame. :(

Errr... no.

This is fair, since it was Monica's first encounter (Rachel being so up herself that she�was oblivious) although she hid it well, and she was *so* sweet to Chandler, she was adorable.

Would you care to pick a moment?

Is that why she switched to restaurants?

Lol! All five of them?

Hehe, because there wasn't enough room on Phoebe's shoulder?

Lol, this would make such a great episode (he could die of a heart attack while in bed with both Phoebe & Ursula) and then they make a day of it, and pack a lunch, but they won't need to rent the boat!

Hehe.

If only he had, (this being so similar to Ross & Emily's rehearsal dinner), instead of playing football they'd have married; and this time Rachel *would* be in the right place to fall pregnant, so she and Ross would have a coupla kids by now.

So that's how she got 147,000 pairs...

As in not knowing where she is, or where she's headed?

Why? So she can put the Sweet'n'Los in the boxes?

LOL yes. Hey, this means that Mardi is really Tuesday...

Oh, good point! Why do you suspect that they haven't since then?

Maybe they invited them in 1995, for we didn't see that.

Oh, and it was up to Monica to invite them, not the gang.

You mean Bobo the Sperm Guy? :)

And the cynics say that this series has no foreshadowing!!!

Typical of Chandler to belittle Phoebe's attempts to relate to Ross via his scientific instincts.

Tee-hee, sparks would fly!

Yes, looking at Washington Square Park which I reckon is where Phoebe & Rachel ran, and Ross taught Phoebe to ride her bike.

Because he didn't fall in love with Monica until February 1999?

I'm amazed we don't already have that.

The lesser-known "I don't have a dream" speech?

Goldilocks (as in locks of hair).

Isn't that two Goldilockses & two bears, with another bear refusing to join in because he hates porridge and all it stands for? ;)

Before the hair-pulling starts?

BTW, you do know what Chandler was talking about when he said "And he's not speaking metaphorically." don't you?

(Note to Mardi. If you're reading this, check the quoted full stop.)

Lol, we think alike!

Hah! THAT explains it! And poor little Rach cops the flak...

Was that Phoebe's grandmother's cab, or the cab that Phoebe had hired?

Ooh, freaky! Well spotted, sweetie. :)

And the cynics say that this series has no continuity!!!

But who's also like her best friend?

And roomie?

To before the Louisiana Purchase?

Emily received a "rude letter" (thanks to Dick), but Barry didn't actually get the Marcel version.

Is that a particularly large cat?

RPGOL, it all makes sense now...

Ah, this is a Regis Philbin reference, yes?

At that time it would be "Regis & Cathy Lee".

And the phone pen runs out of the door? ;)

I always thought the pencil wasn't Debbie, but that it reminded Phoebe of a lightning conductor.

Your pen & pencil reference is very clever, though. :)

Shouldn't that be...

Chandler & Joey climbing Mount Everest, and discovering Danny.

Tennant's suggestions from August 28th...

Why the young gay neighbour had to move away. Joey masquerading as Monica's fianc� to kick the angry man's ass. Why Phoebe no longer seems troubled by her conscience. Joey's mirror telling him to be more mature for Rachel. Phoebe's first song about a pork-addicted Monica. Rachel making Ross sign an 18 page contract before his bonus night. Monica using her door to the past to save the Buffays. Joey telling Chandler that 1986 minus 19 plus 31 is 1998, not 2000. Joey eating wood cheese, stolen from Mrs.Braverman by Phoebe. Chandler & Monica on a fabulously romantic honeymoon in Paris. The caricaturist doing Rachel at Monica's Sweet Sixteen party. Ross finally realising that Rachel is playing him for a fool. Monica enjoying Chandler's bad boys. Ross advising Chandler to be sober at his wedding to Monica. Ross warning Chandler to make sure that Monica isn't a lesbian. Young Ross filling in as a bridesmaid for a sick Monica. Why Joey didn't look up "Vicar" in his encyclopedia volume "V". Phoebe & Joel fondling Ross's dinosaurs while he's out. Joey giving Rachel a nice milk bath to relax her. Monica's hideously embarrassing fifth grade Halloween party. Why the Gellers can't sell their beach house to pay for Monica's wedding. Phoebe giving Rachel her bad porn novels after she's finished with them. Chandler's father, and three step-fathers. The floor opening up at the wedding, so everyone falls in the water. Little Phoebe feeding lilies to Ursula's cat, which died. Ross rolling Tonka Trucks up & down the old man's back. Monica making sure her daughters & sons are treated equally. Joey taking Rachel roughly in the barn. Joey not being afraid to sex Rachel up. Why Monica didn't want the recipe for Phoebe's oatmeal raisin cookies. A flashback comparing the lives of 15-year-olds Rachel & Phoebe. Monica playing her father at racquetball, each hating to lose. Joe rubbing the mainsail, to get it up. If Fat Monica ever went out in Big-Nose Rachel's boat. Rachel taking her top off, if Joey will tighten up the cunningham. Ross trying to get Joey to eat batch sixteen. How come Monica never tried the Nestl� Tollhouse recipe before. All the lies Frances has told about Phoebe, and Ursula. What job Jack does in fact do. Chandler nodding along, as Jack hands out fake legal advice. What Chandler did, after exposing himself at the mixed bathing pool. Why Chandler doesn't worry what to tell Joey about his show. What Phoebe's favourite animal says about her, behind her back. Kim Clozzi's face as Rachel wins her promotion. Disneyland becoming "Crappiest Place on Earth", in honour of Ross. Why Chandler insists his assistant must always be told he's sick. Rachel shaking Tag's hand, instead of hugging him. The goats telling Joey that he's their favourite person. Phoebe & Rachel giving Ross a 'breasts sandwich' after he was fired. Mac teaching CHEESE how to yodel.

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LOL!! That's brilliant!

Yep. It was hardly state-of-the-art.

Once Joey was a big star, he'd want a nice and polite robot that could clean up the mess on the set.

I knew you would. ;)

It makes sense...

Movie reference from "The Sixth Sense".

TT.

Perhaps they started fighting again. What if Joey started dating Wayne's girlfriend?

Yep. :)

Because she doesn't run after the guys who are already taken... oh, wait... ;)

I'd say so, but I've never had to clean up either of them, so I guess I'm lucky.

Why would she say it? If I hadn't been so terribly "spoiled" at the time, I would have started wondering whether this was a hint..

Weird, but very clever. :)

Yes. Unfortunately, his teacher (i.e. Joey) wasn't watching him when he won her over.

I'd say Emily. Emily said she wanted to call it quits in 506, while Rachel signed the divorce papers in 605. It would also take time to get the divorce papers across the Atlantic, hence Emily was married to him for longer than Rachel.

Smil.

Hehe, okay.

What about jam? j/k

Oohhhh... :)
IC.

Lol. Oh, yeah definitely. We have so many cows and polar bears that all of us are vets. ;)

I'm not surprised by that. It was rather controversial that the heir to the throne married a single mother. The biggest TV-channels here aired 9 hours (each) of the wedding on Saturday. Everything was broadcast; the ceremony, the dinner, the speeches, the cutting of the cake, the ball, the fireworks etc. The journalists even asked Haakon (the crown prince) whether they could join him and Mette-Marit on their honeymoon as well, but surprisingly enough, Haakon refused...

Oh, that's right.

And if she had to use it, she could just make some fried stuff with cheese.

Definitely. Street Phoebe wouldn't have let them done that to her.

The miracle of Hollywood - which would never happen in real life.

More people would see them if they had courtside tickets, and I'd like to see dozens of celebrities staring at Paul and Joey. (Perhaps Spike Lee would be inspired by them and make a movie about the wonderful friendship between two men. :) )

Yep. I'd like to see Chandler's reaction to that one.

So I noticed. Good thing I read the spoiler for this one then... ;)

I took it from 612 TOW The Joke: Chandler: Maybe it�s the sound of Ross climbing into my brain and stealing my thoughts.

Hehe. I guess they could be her montors.

I guess she did what she had to do to survive.

And if he'd learned anything from Phoebe, he could easily have pulled it up from his pocket *after* she had put on the jacket. ;)

I have no idea. It's a big mystery.

That's easy to understand. I think most people would find that sight rather disturbing.

Okay.

Okay. :)

Yep. Elves couldn't have brought it all the way, so the angels did it.

Chaos! ;)

I've been trying to do it myself, but it's so dark and difficult to spot.

Unless he fell for her first. ;)

Check out episode 616. As Joey and Rachel are talking about the ring Joey wants to give her, you can see the panther in the background. It looks as if it's running up the wall.

Absolutely! I'd like to see Phoebe apologizing to him in particular!

Yep. :(

Why not? Joey went on a date with "Adam" and was sort of willing to date Tag (albeit for money) in 705, so this doesn't mean that Chandler is gay and the others are not.

I'd choose 508.

Probably! :)

Yep. I'd like to see what Phoebe thinks of as a "homosexual haircut".

Yep. The poor woman had to sit somewhere, and his lap had to be good enough for her.

I know! They have one already! Everything works out perfectly!

Yep. But I'm really glad Chandler and Monica got together later because of his commitment issues. I don't think he'd have been ready for a serious relationship back then

Yep. He owed her a few pairs of shoes for what he did to her.

I don't know really. Her line was rather confusing. :)

No, because I think Ross would be more than happy to bury Rachel's new shoes. ;)

Hehe.

By inviting them, Ross would get to spend time with his son, so they would be killing two birds with one stone. Besides, Ross can stand being around his ex-wife now.

Oh, that's right. It is a possibility since Ross was probably eager to see his son on the first Thanksgiving after his birth.

She probably didn't want to hurt her brother by inviting them.

Yes. :)

Lol!

Perhaps he needs to give her an apology as well? :)

Yep. Now that would have been World War III...

Could be. I've never been in New York, so I don't know. :)

You mean because of his dream in 516?

Yep. The political side of the Friends. :)

IC. We call her Gullh�r.

Haha!

Yep. :)

Grin.

Awww... Pheebs...And judging by the end of 607, Monica wouldn't have been furious with him for moving the phone pen.

The former. Small error there, I'm afraid. :)

I know!!  :)

We have that entry already.

Hehe, that's a good one.

Well, I was thinking they could go back to 1870. (Right after the Civil War, and people still behaved like ladies and gentlemen.) The Lousiana purchase took place in 1803, so that would be a no.

Oh. He deserved it, though.

I thought of it as a combination of 119 (Chandler: Okay, it's his first time out, so he's probably gonna wanna do some of the touristy things. I'll go to Cats, you go to the Russian Tea Room.) and 121 (Monica: No, thank you! You have given me so much! I mean, if it wasn't for you, I would never have gotten to sing Memories on the stage at the Wintergarden Theater!), but it could also be only 119. Grizabella is the glamour cat who dies in the end of "Cats". She's also the one who sings "Memory".

I know! I started laughing when I read the script for 119 and found this entry.

I know, but that wouldn't be as funny as WWTBAM. "Live with Regis and Kathie Lee" was *boring*, and Mr. Heckles would be such a hilarious contestant on WWTBAM.

Regis: Is that your final answer? Mr. Heckles: It *could* be my final answer.

Nah, it's still on the balcony. ;)

No, the pencil Rachel had at the coffeehouse wasn't Debbie, but I was thinking that Rachel could actually get hold of Debbie the Pencil and babysit it.

TT.

I don't think so. Danny had just come home from the Andes, so I think it's better that they asked him for help to fulfil their dream.

Prejudice?

Yeah!!

Chandler going to hell to date Monica

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OIC

Thanks, sweetie. :)

A dangerous guy, to cross or dump.

Ah.

VSG

Why would he? There are plenty of fish in the sea for Joey.

Smil

Well, monkey pee must be very close to human pee...

If you go through my late S7 posts, you'll see that I began to worry that the wedding would not go ahead, after Monica's fling with Joey.

Thanks, sweetie.

Oh well, I don't suppose Chandler was hankering for a gold star!

An excellent analysis, sweetheart.

I dunno about cows, but the most famous Norwegian in Britain must be Trude Mostue, an archetypal blonde, if not an archetypal vet.

She & a British presenter made a celebrated documentary about polar bears, where in a controversial scene she pointed an infrared camera at her co-host's midriff, and his penis shone through his trousers.

Hehe. The single mother issue was not made much of over here, it was just a good news story about royal families & how lovely Norway is.

Yeah, plus the stripper from 422, Phoebe's Las Vegas groom who was mentioned in 601, and the woman who resembled Cameron Diaz in 707.

I think that even Joey would prefer 'the other way' to food...

Has she gone soft?

Yeah. Gosh though Marita, when you wrote that in August, the world was a different place, wasn't it? The Emmys were like a fortress.

Lol! Very clever.

Me2

Hehe.

Eek. Very clever of you. :)

I think you mean mentors.

Frances is in Hell, where's Lily?

Yep.

He certainly could, but that's not his style.

Okay.

Yeah.

So, Ross is just no help to his friend, is he?

Tee-hee.

Exactly!

I just can't understand why they're not there. As Tina Nellis said, even if CCA couldn't turn them on, tears are easy enough to fake.

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Hah! :)

Too bad. Perhaps they're saving all these entries for later.

Hehe, causing a small flood..

With lots of helicopter sounds and cows being kidnapped by aliens. :)

No, I don't think so.

And that would make it a best-seller?

Lol! Ross!

He has the intellectual job, so I guess that's why people think he's the smart one.

But Joey wouldn't be around to help Chandler get rid of him.. ;)

It might have. Just because she was a virgin, and they didn't "consummate" their relationship, doesn't mean that he couldn't have been her boyfriend. :)

Yikes. I hope it doesn't turn out to be another "Not Without My Daughter".

Oh, I didn't deny it, I just had to point out that Ross would be clueless. :)

Yeah, I think it looks like black basketballs.

Hehe, I guess so.

Not necessarily. Both of these trends are very popular at the moment (e.g. Julia Roberts, Angelina Jolie, Calista Flockhart).

Hehe, IC.

Nope. Monica got a takeout in 515 when she was furious with Chandler, and Joey got a takeout in the tag scene of 622.

That too! :)

Rachel married Joey and became famous, but after a couple of years with cast parties and awards shows where she had been drinking a lot, she got a drinking problem and ... (602)

Why would he?

I think Janice might be the woman to do just that. :)

Awww.. Poor Chandler. Perhaps Chandler writing for Archie Comics would make Ross think more highly of him.

Hehe.

Do you think that Phoebe could run up walls with the proper amount of training? Mind you, Monica would kick some ass as well... :) I guess Rachel relies on pepperspray to keep the burglars and potential rapists away.

It sounds like he said "flannendellarts". ;)

The fact that Joey didn't tell Phoebe might be just a mere coincidence. Perhaps he didn't meet here that day. Don't get me wrong, though, it can still be an entry.

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That's what this list is all about.

I know!! :)

Don't forget the dog is kidnapped as well!

Oh. Well, why should Phoebe go into Monica's room?

No, it's just that the Washington Times talks out of its ass.

Of course!!

It ain't easy, acting, you know...

Good point, but Joey was still around, he could live at #19 for a few days until Eddie had gone, and Chandler had found a FR-NS-NU.

But she seemed *totally* inexperienced.

Oh, much worse than that, (unless she secretly liked it of course).

Fair enough, yes.

Gosh.

Never mind.

So why did they swap?

Smil.

Oh wow, thanks. You're brilliant.

Hehe.

Oh dear, this could well be so...

But since in this "Friends" Joey isn't in DOOL... oh, but he is. :(

Because Monica would still have known her.

You reckon? Chloe was skanky enough.

Oh that's a good point.

Yep. And Monica never tells Rachel anything... ;)

That was the bit of the movie that didn't work. If you've ever seen a cat run straight up a 3m high brick wall, it looks quite different.

She relied on her weight...

Yes, and all very well as long as their blood isn't up.

Oh it just says "(Does one of those gibberish words.)" in the transcript, or at least it did until just now. Thanks for the enhancement.

Got you know, okay.

Probably. :)

If only Phoebe & Rachel had given Ross a 'Breasts Sandwich'.

We don't know yet - the other two weddings that we've actually seen had a lot of stuff about the catering, but this time nothing.

No need to apologise, I rated the episode as a 'miss' myself.

That's the idea. Would have made a better story.

Hehe, but I doubt that she's the same Elizabeth. :)

Hehe, that's a lot of sticks, two twigs, and a leaf.

What an episode! :)

Thanks.

Yeah, he could hypnotise Ross into being a hypnotist.

Okay, I've changed the entry.

Awwww...

Gay porn is much worse for actors than it is for actresses.

Yep. Sigh...

Ah - Joey thinks that Stevie goes to sleep when the screen is turned off, but Chandler knows better, as we saw later on.

Wow!

Absolutely.

There are several instances after that episode where Monica has displayed this insecurity, with "You lose sucker!! Please still marry me." being one good example, but are there none before?

The goddess who punishes those who dare to think they know better.

She'd enjoy that!

TT

Yes indeed.

Lol, okay.

Ye gods! Actually it was on our TV news.

Gale has much bluer eyes.

It's the way to go.

Why not. :)

Hah! Good answer!

Okay.

The Magarathean coastline designer who won major award for Norway. When Earth had to be rebuilt he was given Africa to do, so he did it with all fjords again because he likes them, and anyway they give a lovely baroque feel to a continent - but he was told it wasn't equatorial enough.

You should be designing the exhibits. Okay, so how about...

A prehistoric Phoebe taking issue with chauvinistic cavemen.

Or Monica & Rachel!

He wasn't hiding!

Good point, in fact "They all" hints that there were three.

What if her name was Janice Ludwin?

Anyway, how about...

What paranoid Marty Willick is so afraid of.

Oh no, there are worse examples, for instance when Monica was out of work, and she desperately needed money. Ross is a much better parent to her.

I know, but the blazing rows could be a bit scary.

:)

In 215 "TOW Ross & Rachel... You Know"...

ROSS: I've been wanting this since like ninth grade Typing, ya know. And I just want it to be perfect & right.

Have you seen the beginning of Jurassic Park 2?

Fair enough.

Check.

Yeah, but why Ross's? Ross didn't live nearby until Season 5.

Ah.

Doesn't it come naturally, then?

Yeah. Saved by Fashion, even if it did wreck things with Ross.

Lol yes, or Jack & Rose.

Because he was Greek.

George Stephanopoulos couldn't do it, since he was Monica's brother, who told Chandler Acidopholus he'd kick his ass if he hurt her.

Poor Ross.

Jealousy? Revenge? Because it was good for her?

Hopefully, no.

Oh, very clever!

Okay, so how about...

Joey starring as Dovregubben, king of the trolls, in Peer Gynt.

Yes, but not very rude.

Yah, the poor girl can't do accents.

Oh okay, since Chandler never intended to actually go.

Ta.

Okay, so it now says...

Phoebe later asking to hear Richard Leakey's theory about monogamy.

Okay, fair enough.

He's not shy though, is he?

How exactly do you mean?

Check. Oh - but if we go with that, it makes her clairvoyant, sorry.

Okie dokie.

Well, she did very badly at the time, gave up, and let Joey talk.

Hehe. I guess.

You betcha.

Why not?

Yesssss.

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Yep.

Lol! Oh, that's right. How could I forget? Poor Chi-Chi... Perhaps Ross wrote it as a tribute to that dog, in order to remember it even though it was living happily in Connecticut.

I find it easier to explain why it can't be Monica's room, than why it can't be Phoebe's room.

Haha! I take it you don't like the Washington Times's views on politics. :)

It's the way of life. Unless you're doing e.g. Shakespeare or Miller, people don't think of you as the next Laurence Olivier. It may be wrong of us, but Joey is doing the best he can.

Pardon? What does FR-NS-NU mean?

Perhaps he was a member of that American group who does not want to have any physical contact with their partners until they're married...

Worse than NWMD? Okay, I would have to say like "Sold", then. In this book, two sisters were tricked into going to Yemen and were sold as slaves/wives to men they had never seen before. What's worse, their father sold them...

It was rather peculiar, but I guess they wanted to change their hairstyles. As simple as that. You know what? Never mind, I can't come up with a good answer. :)

VSG. I cannot think of any other time that this happened.

Hehe, exactly. Phoebe's prophecy even involved children, so perhaps it will happen? :)

Okay. :)

Both Chloe and Janice met a guy at a bar one night. He was lonely and depressed, convinced that he would never find love again. They talked to him, listened to him talking about his problems. They offered him a shoulder to cry/whine on, and he accepted. The result was of course that he slept with the both of them. We all know that the guy I'm talking about is Ross, but it might as well have been Chandler. This also proves that Janice is capable of doing this.

TT.

I never said "never", though. ;)

Hehe. My cat runs up the pillars on the balcony, and you're right, it does not look like CTHD. :)

Hehe. Yep. She learnt it from Pete, or was it the other way around? :)

Good luck to her, and I sincerely hope she still takes self defence classes.

VSG.

Lol! Would that mean no Mental Geller?

Yes. We know that Monica wants to serve chicken, and I guess we'll find out the rest in three weeks.

Yep. It's not as bad as 608 and 619, but it's still rather awful.

It might be. However, that calendar would not be a best-seller on the U.S.S. Nimitz.

Well, it's Monica. She'd swim across a lake to find debris to use in her message, just like she did after the Geller Cup.

I know. :)

Hehe, yep.

Okay.

True.

Perhaps Chandler is paranoid. ;)

She needs that "fear" just as much as he does.

I cannot think of a better example at the moment. I guess her "What?! Are you crazy?! I�m not getting married! I�m not even engaged." showed a little insecurity, but not as much as your example.

Okay.

But he could never, ever touch the other person. He'd have to learn it in his head first.

Yep. Fortunately, the bride did not run away screaming when she drove past them. :)

She also has terrible hairdos.

Grin.

Lol! Africa with fjords sounds like an interesting idea.

Smil. I would need Ross's help, though.

She would kick their asses and steal their clubs.

Hopefully, Ross would come up with a better short story than Chandler did, and they'd get away with it.

Good point. :)

Yep, There were at least two, and probably three.

Gosh, that would mean that Janice was right when she was complaining about Monica's chicken. (I.e. she'd be a former chef and know what delicious chicken is supposed to taste like.)

Good. :)

Oh, that's right.

So is it easier to win over an imaginary friend than a real one?

Oooh! I completely forgot.

Yep, but they weren't "real" lizards... ;) However, I can only speak for myself and the lizards I saw in Aruba. They were hiding in the bushes, climbing up the palm trees and visiting us on the balcony. Thankfully, I didn't see any lizards on the beach. :)

It's a combination of 104 and 514, but it fits in 104.

I don't know. It looked rather "wild" to me.

Apart from the following break-up, her job was the best thing that has ever happened to her.

Lol! "I'm flying!" The next thing you know, Joey is bawling his eyes out.

Lol! That's very clever! :)

Anger, because Phoebe moved out without telling her... ;)

Although Ross did sing quite well in 109.

TT. :)
Okay. :)

No, she isn't, but the great thing about her is that she decides to take control of her life in the end and leaves her husband.

Exactly.

Yep.

No, but that doesn't mean that it's natural to go across the hall to put lotion on your butt. :)

Chandler would do it when Monica was acting all Monica about it, because he knew she would make him scrub the pan correctly later if he didn't. However, if he scrubbed the pan even though she didn't demand it and was trying to be a "kook", it would show us how much she meant to him.

And you don't want that? :)

He could have taught her his secret language when they were up all night talking during the first months of their relationship.

I don't think she ever was that crazy about him. (Unless it happened in Vail, that is.)

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Oh good point! Maybe when the Gellers visited the farm, Ross asked where Chi-Chi had gone, so Mrs.Millner had to break the news that some animals had been kidnapped by aliens, as she served roast beef for dinner.

I can't help thinking it's a parallel world thing, like Carol & Susan's swapped hairstyles. Wouldn't Monica have chocolate bars in every room?

Apparently, it's blatant Bushite propaganda.

Bushite.

I've just invented that word.

I like it.

Bushite Bushite Bushite Bushite Bushite Bushite Bushite Bushite Bushite Bushite Bushite Bushite Bushite Bushite Bushite Bushite Bushite...

Not even the next next Laurence Olivier?

It's from 603 "TOW Ross's Denial"...

CHANDLER: (reading Joey's newspaper advert) "Wanted. Female roommate, non-smoker, non-ugly." Nice!

RACHEL: This whole apartment thing is just a nightmare! Every place
        I can afford comes with a roommate who is a freak. I mean,
        look at this; (she points to one advert, and starts to read
        it.) "Wanted. Female roommate, non-smoker, non-ugly." It's
        just, there is nothing! The city's full!

But would Monica join such a religious group? Remember, she is exactly the same woman as we see in normal "Friends", except that she did not happen to hear Chandler describe her to Ross as his fat sister.

Oh, that would be worse.

As I mentioned above, it was just a parallel world thing.

Okay.

Freaky. It certainly could. :)

Yep.

Yesss...

Yes, she is, but apart from the unknown-to-Monica thing, Ross does his Little Boy Lost act, and women want him, while Chandler is assumed to be gay. Meanwhile in the parallel universe, Chandler is even less able with women. Now, in 315 "TOW Ross & Rachel Take a Break", Chandler was particularly off-form, so awful in fact that he ruined Joey's chances as well, as they realised when Isaac informed Chloe that the guys had a crush on her. And yet, it didn't matter, for she was so easy-going that she asked them both out, hinting that she was up for a threebie.

Okay. :)

There you go, then.

I don't think he ever knew that side of her.

And I sincerely hope the instructor has taught her not to be cocky.

ROSS: My Thanksgiving sandwich! I can't believe someone ate it! I am
      thirty years old, I'm about to be divorced twice, and I just got
      evicted! That sandwich was the only good thing going on in my
      life! Someone ate the only good thing going on in my life!

(Phoebe & Rachel both pause, look at each other - then smiling they walk over to embrace Ross, and press their breasts up against him.)

ROSS: (grinning) it was just a sandwich.

Chicken? <checks> Oh yes, S7-07, that was subtle. Well done.

608 was just a medium effort spoilt by Janine, but nothing is as bad as 619, worst episode ever, diarrhoea on a trampoline.

No, but what about the bitches of Kappa Kappa Delta?

Then Ross walks through the sign, which becomes ER'UOY A GORF, RELDNAHC.

With Jennifer Aniston as big Dana Caplin, Courtney Cox as cute Susan Sallidor, Matt Leblanc as cheap Howie, and Lisa Kudrow as gay Bernie.

No, that's Ross. :)

That's very perceptive. Yes.

Yeah, thanks. Monica was mostly being cautious, I guess.

BTW, they ask "Are you crazy?" quite a lot...

Chandler 117/521

Joey 124/303/503/506/606

Phoebe 221/708

Monica 311/325/512/622

Rachel 522/523/604

..except for Ross, that is. Funny, nei?

Lol, it's a shame for Ross that Miss Buffay didn't follow that philosophy instead of grabbing his hair sticking up from behind the purple chair.

Lol, leaving a bride-shaped hole in the cathedral doors?

Oh, she looked mighty fine to me! :)

Sadly, the white mice didn't agree with you.

That would be nice for you...

Except for the proto-Joeys, who are too burly.

Or even better, they listen to Joey, who pretends it was a diary.

Maybe he went to sit on the bank of the Hudson River - it's not far from Bedford & Grove, yet we've never seen it on the show.

Hehe. What if her name was Janice Heckles?

Okay.

TT

Easier, for she was very forgiving & sweet-natured. I miss her.

Ahah, just for once, I win one. :)

No, but they were small reptiles.

They didn't go "woof", though.

We tried to catch the lizards in Tenerife, but they were so fast that we failed. When I told the concierge about this later on, he told us that many dogs are killed by succeeding.

Okay, so choose a better destination.

Especially with the elbows?

Oh it was, it's not her fault that he felt safer with just a waitress.

Titanic in 5 words - I'm flying, glug glug glug.

<dimples>

Ah. Fortunately, Monica is more forgiving these days (716u).

I preferred his entry for the Eurovision song contest...

The Laundry Song, by R.Geller

         (rap intro)
         Uh-oh. Uh-oh, uh-oh!
         The laundry's done!
         It's-uh, it's-a, a song.
         The laun-dry song, that-we-sing.
         # Uh-oh the laundry's done, uh-oh, uh-oh.
         Lee-lo, the laundry's done! #

Okay.

Why, did he have a rude name too?

Okay, it's now in at 41594.

Okay, but he did, hence the question.

Ah, got you now. How about...

Chandler using a plastic brush anyway, to show Monica he cares.

Nope. I've put it in at 40282, where it will do just fine.

No he can't have done, otherwise she couldn't shut him up...

The thing is, it's in the text...

RACHEL: Barry wouldn't even kiss me on a miniature golf course.

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I knew that name was familiar!

Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy! Ha!

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Oh yes?

OIC - so how about...

Phoebe trading circles, to hang out with Helena in Las Vegas.

You know, Phoebe didn't meet Charles at the wedding, she met Helena.

So what if she didn't recognise him - as her husband???

She's done that sort of thing elsewhere...

Does the text indicate that?

Because if it was 1995, Heckles could have stopped him, as in 306.

Duh! <smites forehead> That's a goodie, so how about...

Charles as Maria in the bridal shop scene of "West Side Story".

Well yes, since Sammi said...

*�Most likely, given the general population of that city- LOTS of *�rednecks!!. Bakersfield is known as the armpit of California (no *�offense to anyone here who lives there.) My older sister was born *�there, and it embarrasses her to no end!

..so how about...

Charles being hounded by Bakersfield rednecks.

..or maybe something more uplifting?

And here Sammi said...

*�usually "pantyhose", but the dictionary will let you use "pantihose"

..so I'm going for "pantihose" since the "i" looks more central.

Okay.

I know!!! This is one of these little throwaway lines they have that you normally ignore, then thanks to the TWWWS project somebody points it out, and we're plunged into doubt & uncertainty... :)

I'll do a full list in a bit.

Meanwhile, don't worry about it, for you repeat very few entries.

Check.

Ah yes of course, well done. :)

Did he do the work himself when he replaced Carol's battery?

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I always thought of cheerleading as a stupid routine with tons of bimbos (no offence to any cheerleaders out there), but after seeing this movie, I realised how difficult it is. If Rachel couldn't focus on the road, much less on when to jump or carry one of the other girls in the pep rally pyramid, I wouldn't want her anywhere near the pyramid. However, I guess she would do less damage on the top than on the bottom.

Yep.

You mean when they were waiting in Monica's hotelroom?

Are you implying that she's Chandler's stepmother??? RPGOL!!! Wonderful idea, Tennant!

Chandler knew that his father had been coming to see him

Exactly. I'll never be able to watch that scene without laughing ever again...

No, I think it's perfect as it is. The show could focus even more on narrow-minded morals. And as I said to Sammi, these people live everywhere, so it is a universal problem.

Okay.

Hehe, this project is a stroke of pure genius... j/k

Perhaps you could do it right before the premiere airs in the USA?

TT.

I cannot see Ross as a car-fixing kind of guy.

I think the most advanced job he has ever done on a car is changing Monica's bulbs and brake lights.

I bet he'd call shotgun...

Once she gave birth to those babies... She saw him in a completely different light, and vice versa...

I just thought that the "hot cell phone guy" was about 30 years old, while his boss looked like a distinguished gentleman of 65.

Okay.

Exactly. I thought of giving Joey his own entry: Joey buying windshieldwipers for his sunglasses ...but I figured that would be too much. :)

What if Chandler had said "no" here?

JOEY: What? Are you serious?

MONICA: Joey, a minister is a minister, even if you call it by another name.

JOEY: Oh, my god. I think I need to think about this. At least for, like, I dunno, five minutes. Monica, can you please make me a sandwich while I'm trying to decide?

(Monica and Chandler exchange glances.)

CHANDLER: Joey would probably eat the Lord's Supper in the chapel before the wedding if he had the chance.

JOEY: Well, every minister wants his daily bread...

[Going back to the reality for a couple of seconds.]

(Phoebe enters slowly.)

Monica: Hey Pheebs, how�s it going?

Phoebe: Oh, I have a headache. A horrible headache!

Monica: Oh, I�m sorry. Can I get you something?

Phoebe: Oh my God, you�ve got to stop chattering!

Monica: Here, take a couple of these. (She gets up to grab a couple of pills.)

Phoebe: What is it?

Monica: It�s Hexadrin.

Phoebe: Oh no, I don�t believe in Western medicine. No, if you just apply pressure to these points right here. (She�s pinching the bit of skin between her right thumb and forefinger with her left hand.) Then your hand starts to hurt and you still have a headache, so thanks. (Takes the pills.)

Monica: Okay, while we�re waiting for these pills to kick in, I�m gonna sit you down on the couch. Come on. (Phoebe gets up and goes with her.) Get some nice soft pillows under your head, I�m gonna turn the TV on and you can watch whatever you want. And I�m.. Sit down..(She sits down on the couch)...gonna make you some tea. And then, I�m gonna rub your feet.

[Back to my version]

JOEY: Chandler, are you watching this? Your future wife cares more about her friend than her minister!!

(Monica and Chandler look at him, rather shocked.)

CHANDLER: You mean you'll do it?

MONICA: Are you sure, Joe?

JOEY: Yeah, I better make sure you guys actually tie the knot. I've looked after you and protected you before, so I don't want anything to happen to you right before you walk down the aisle.

MONICA: That's wonderful, Joey, but what about the sex?

JOEY: You're looking at a guy who almost lost an acting job because of a robot. I'm sure I can lose my job after the wedding if I try hard enough.

I'd like to see Ross or Phoebe tell her how badly she has treated Monica. Ross because he has seen everything, although I think he'd prefer not to tell this to his mom to her face. Phoebe wouldn't be afraid to speak her mind either, so they're the best choice IMO. Chandler would be too obvious.

I'm sorry, but there seems to be a small misunderstanding here. I meant that Ross was a wastosaurus.

Okay.

Since they never mention it on the show, I guess they thought they could get away with it without the fans noticing the error.

Do you think the crib will come from Pottery Barn? From the Yore period perhaps, and with built-in microphones for the baby monitor?

I see. She'd need some funky shoes though. I bet she could make them herself.

Weird. You'd think he was a twin himself for coming up with that theory.

Thank goodness.

Yep, that's much better.

In 410 Chandler claimed that he "had a girlfriend and that he was happy". Chandler in the early days would be so incredibly happy and excited about the fact that Monica was his girlfriend, he would be the one shouting it out from the balcony, like Monica did in 701. However, Chandler was a very different person when he started dating Monica, so I don't think he wanted to do that in the first place. Joey might not have known about this change in Chandler's character, though (he was on a fishing trip when Chandler was heartbroken in 414), so by paying Joey money to shut him up, Chandler proved to Joey that this wasn't just a fling. It was serious.

Yep.

Okay.

Well, to tell you the truth, I didn't think about these entries that much. For obvious reasons.

A big kettle of fish. :)

BOC.

I didn't see any red and puffy eyes, but you could be right. :)

Tick-tock... The biological clock is ticking.

Lol! They had to come in handy sometime.

How about Ursula tellling her that she has no idea why their mother killed herself?

Strange...

Playing Scrabble perhaps?

Well, if she doesn't want to run away from dates, she might want to run away from the translators.

If she does, I think she watches him/her from across the street...

Yep, unless my theory about the nice Monica still sitting under the craps table in Vegas is true.

Yep.

Lol! I think it would be easier to marry James Cameron, though. And he'd be one of the very few people in the world who actually is capable of taking her down to the bottom of the sea to meet a pet seahorse.

I hope Rachel didn't do anything stupid to get either of those jobs. It would be too much if a Ralph Lauren Jr is on the way.

It does sound strange, but I have no idea where she went.

IC. Both can count as real entries, though.

Could be.

Hehe. ;) You and Ross wish...

Awww... Little Joey crying in the movie theatre, clutching a big jar of jam...

Gunther keeps a lot of things to himself, so I don't think she would know.

Rachel would finally be as "successful" and "rich" as Caroline, while her baby sister's crazy behaviour would put a strain on their relationship.

Absolutely.

Hehe. ;)

Really? What else happened?

Perhaps they're updating their lists the same way as Frances updated her phonebook?

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One of the themes in "Sabrina the Teenage Witch" is that although she's a very lovely girl, she scorns the whole cheerleading scene, preferring to hang out with the not-geeks in Science Club, and supporting the cause of academic excellence over results upon the football field. But in one episode she did try out as a cheerleader, and failed to make the grade.

OTOH, cheerleading does not compare with a proper dance routine.

And at least she wouldn't make on the floor.

Yep. Helena is very different from Charles.

<Beams> And if she marries Ross, she'd be her own stepson's wife's brother's wife, or her own husband's sister's husband's stepmother. ;)

Okay, fair enough, I'll drop that one.

And what better reward could you have?

Okay. I'll put that in, exactly as you said.

Thanks, I only wish it was my idea.

I hope to, but this hiatus isn't proving as quiet as I'd expected.

However, I'll email you a copy of the list so far.

Yeah, I guess. Poor fellow.

That can be trickier than changing a battery.

Not if quick-witted Joey was around (412).

Ooh, good point.

That was in the 100th episode, so I can break it into tens...

PR JK

                       1-10      0      0
                      11-20      0      0
                      21-30      1      0
                      31-40      0      0
                      41-50      1      1
                      51-60      0      0
                      61-70      3      1
                      71-80      3      1
                      81-90      0      1
                     91-100      3      0
                    101-110      6      3
                    111-120     12      4
                    121-130      8      2
                    131-140      5      9
                    141-150      2      0
                    151-160      3      3
                    161-170      2      3

..and yes, you're right, there was sudden increment after the birth.

Once again, bear in mind that the 141-170 figures will go up some more.

Also, notice the earlier change in Ross & Phoebe's relationship, with most references running at 30% (except for mid Season 4) that begins with the 61st episode, where Ross's relationship with Rachel is just beginning to fall apart (the 60th is 312 "TOW All the Jealousy").

I've also included the figures for Joey & Rachel, they also moved onto a new plane once Phoebe had given birth, with a huge rise once Janine had departed. They began living together during the 139th episode.

OIC - fair enough, I'll add that "about" to the entry.

Yep. I've put it in as...

72375/C/Chandler buying tiny wipers for his glasses, now Joey enunciates.

I dunno Marita, how would that go?

LOL!!

RPGOL!!!

Awww...

That was brilliant, sweetie. Lots of laughs & a touching ending.

Now, can you boil all that down to 68 characters?

Wow yes, you're right. Joey & Phoebe are the pair that Judy least knows (for the most dramatic impact), and Phoebe would be the better choice.

Oh, I did misunderstand. English pronouns only work well with male & female or single & multiple relationships. Let's try...

Ross the wastosaurus borrowing money from a skint Chandler.

..yes?

Especially since it was shown on January 6th.

Maybe that kiss lasted for three weeks...

<Giggle>, could be, unless the La-Z corporation make them...

Traditionally, she'd land on a witch, and steal hers.

Maybe Judy Geller now lives in White Plains...

That shows how much he's been thinking about her.

That explanation makes a lot of sense, and yet I feel very uncomfortable about it. I just can't accept Joey as being so mercenary. Yes, there was the fridge thing, but I didn't like that either. Maybe it's just me.

Maybe they'll refuse to believe her in S8-03.

Thanks. I was wondering about her eyes, would she have had enough time to do something? The boys had to call her more than once.

Ever louder.

Hehe.

Ooh, what do you suspect?

Does he look normal to you, since you have blonde men walking about?

Or watching "Walker Texas Ranger".

How come?

As long as she doesn't run him/her over in her cab.

Yeah, and when we left the alternative universe, we didn't return to the original one, but a third world where the nice Monica didn't hide.

Awwww... did you hear about the wedding on the Titanic?

Ralph Lauren Sr is on my list of suspects.

Maybe Kudrow was doing a movie, or something.

Okay okay, sweetheart.

Had to.

Well, this was while they were a couple.

Oh yes, that's such a beautiful scene.

Such a pity he was 14 at the time.

What if she found "Inspect Her Gadget" in the VCR?

Oh dear.

That's all I know. When the ending was filmed, it was revealed that Jill was no longer being cut off by her father, so we assume she went home.

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Dawson's Creek had something similar to that. Jen hated the cheerleaders, and decided to go to an audition to poke fun at it. However, she had no idea what to do when she was chosen to be head cheerleader...

No, but you should try to see that movie sometime. While being a typical American teenage movie, it has some incredible dance routines. Gabrielle Union (Kristen in 717) stars in the movie, and she does a great job.

I hope not!

You mean with or without the female clothing, or Mr Bing's personality?

RPGOL!!! "How come you've never been on Oprah?"

Smil.

Well, you're not supposed to laugh *that* much while watching that scene. The tension between the Jets and the Sharks is increasing, while Maria can't wait to be together with the "enemy"...

I've forgotten whose idea it was.

Well, the "ending would have us talking all summer" so... ;)

Thanks!

I'm ashamed to say I wouldn't know. ;)

Why?

TT. I guess that Chandler and Monica's relationship triggered possibilities for different romantic relationships in the future. Once everybody involved with the show saw the viewers' reaction to their relationship, they understood that they had lots of possibilities besides the R+R relationship.

I know. You'll take care of that, right? ;)

I see. It makes sense that all the hints started coming once they moved in together, so to speak.

Did you notice the Romeo and Juliet reference here? :)

:)
;)

It's true, isn't it? I'm sure he'd do it..

TT. :)

Joey sacrificing his love life in order to become a minister

I meant Phoebe and Ross, though. Joey would be able to pull it off as well, but I'd prefer Ross.

Yes.

Which would make it the longest on-screen kiss ever.

Lol! I hope the crib doesn't have a special fridge for mom's drinks, in case she does get a serious drinking problem.

So she comes from the West then?

I don't think it makes him look that bad. In fact, he hit two birds with one stone. He needed to pay rent back then as well, and in the process, he protected his friends amazingly well. It's not exactly ethical, but Joey is still a good guy.

Why 803?

A cold washing cloth perhaps?

It's hard to say whose clock is ticking the loudest, though. Phoebe's perhaps?

Well, Ursula had read the suicide note, so Phoebe would later find out (401) that Ursula knew about the real reason why their mother killed herself. Ergo, the speech was fake.

LOL!! No, absolutely not. <thinks of Gunther as a blonde viking and lol>

And "Golden Girls".

I bet she wanted to do that in 315. She told Monica that her date's translator kept getting in the way.

Absolutely. I'd hate to see them hurt any more animals on the show...

Yep. In a strange way, that makes perfect sense.

Yup. Some people are weird... :)

Yep. He's one of the possible daddies.

Could be.

Well, that makes it a little better, but..

I know!

He'd still be awfully cute.. :)

Lol! That would be more difficult for him to explain!

IC.

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Hmmm... sign of a cheerleading backlash? :)

Ah well, *movie* cheerleading is a different animal..

Hehe.

The whole gestalt. The clothing changes with the personality, the personality changes with the clothing, and neither one is real.

Hehe.

Oh, well.

According to the IMDb, the lyrics of the original stage version include the line "I feel pretty and witty and bright / And I pity / Any girl who isn't me tonight." With my theatrical background, this is why I did not recognise Helena's song. What had happened was in the film version, the night scene was changed to the daytime, so they had to change "tonight" to "today", then for the rhyme "bright" was changed to "gay".

It was someone on Angel's Friends. The thread became so long it had to be split into two parts, and then one day Tina Nellis deleted the first part to save disc space, and everything in it is lost forever.

Smil.

Got it okay? (I'm *so* behind with my emails. Again.)

Some lights are hard to take apart to get at the bulb - and a battery is a more generic item, easier to find out in the boondocks.

Because Joey called shotgun on Monica's room.

Of course, for the ride-along with Officer Gary, Joey knew better than than to ride up front, where his sandwich was in more danger.

X-Zactly.

I already have entries for 621-625 awaiting your next suggestions...

Indeed. However, it's important to realise that these statistics are derived from our wishes, which therefore reflect not only our desires for that which might be, but regret for that which has been lost.

To see this, here is the entire matrix...

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As Chandler became more involved with Monica from the 97th episode, there was a rise not only in Joey/Ross, but also Chandler/Ross - while Chandler/Joey did not decline, but increased slightly.

As for the girls, the change in focus with Season 5 seems to have had a lesser effect, with Rachel/Phoebe intensifying in Season 4.

Unsurprisingly, Chandler/Monica blossomed with the new focus more than his relationship with the other two girls; while as we've noted, the only shift for Joey has been a more recent one towards Rachel.

However, Ross's relationships are the most interesting. References to Phoebe have increased as we noted above, due to the opening up of the new possibilities; but a similar rise followed his marriage to Rachel, undiminished as this couple was allowed to run into the sand. However, with Monica he's been quiet except for a peak before his big break-up.

I would guess that the change of focus in the 171st episode is going to change many of these pairings around again...

<ashamed> I should have done, but whoosh! </ashamed>

Me too.

Hmmm. Good, but we've lost the C&M aspect. What about...

Joey giving up sex, to ensure that Chandler & Monica tie the knot.

It would be great if Ross did, but he never would.

TT

Something like that! :)

No worries, the crib-fridge is full of 'cantaloup juice'.

You got it! :)

Oh, okay.

Because if the new season begins on 20th September with a new episode each week, S8-03 airs at the same time as the "Survivor 3" premiere; and David Crane says it's the last wedding aftermath story.

Indeed? Okay, that will do then. :)

Doesn't her clock think its score is three?

Oh, very good. Let's hope it *was* suicide.

Grin. Then think how he looks to we southerners.

Oh yes, of course.

Not by the end...

SERGEI: Uh, (picks up a plate) plate? PHOEBE: Plate! Yes, plate. SERGEI: Plate. Plate. Plate. PHOEBE: See, we don't need them. SERGEI: (picking up a cup) Plate? PHOEBE: Yeah.

..after that, she started teaching him herself.

How do you mean, "any more"? What else, besides Schnoodle?

Thanks.

Hehe. Not as weird as the people who protested about it.

Yeppity.

but?

Hmmm...

Hehe. No.

I knowww!

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Could be! Too many "perfect" blondes jumping around in short skirts.

Yep.

I see.

Really? I didn't know that, but then again, I've only seen the movie and the Norwegian stage version of the musical, so... :)

Really? I haven't seen anyone doing it over there right now, though. (Besides, I don't think I dare to go there anymore, since there are spoilers everywhere...)

Yep. It was quite useful, actually.

IC.

Of course! I'd forgotten that.

BOC. He needed to save that one. :)

It's done now. :)

Chandler and Joey have always been there, but from your statistics, it looks like we've "forgotten" a bit about them after season 6. I guess we can change this, though.

And as we all saw, that did indeed happen.

Yep. 618 was really important there.

I wonder how his relationships are going to evolve. There are so many options, and either way is just as interesting IMO.

Definitely!

Hehe. DFY.

Lol! Okay.

I'm afraid I don't quite agree with you there. He discussed Monica's relationship with her parents with his father in 713, and if the right situation came along, I think he'd tell his mother how she has hurt Monica over the years. Obviously, it wouldn't be a hostile confrontation (after all, it's Ross we're talking about here), but it might have been just as useful.

Guinness Book of Records again? :)

Joey wouldn't mind that, though. He's tasted it before.

Nope, Survivor 3 will start on October 11th.

It's the only thing that works. :)

Nah, I think Phoebe's biological clock knows that those three kids weren't hers.

That too! Otherwise, our future politician might have a few skeletons in her closet.

Hehe.

And before she knew it, he was singing American Pie, albeit in Russian (?).

No one, I just feel bad for that poor dog with one ear.

Eh, just the thought of Rachel using sex as a way of keeping him from talking about his life and interests... I'm sure he liked what came afterwards, but, I dunno, I just don't like it.

I think so, though. :)

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I know, we need more red-heads.

I was watching "American Beauty" the other night, and the choreography for the cheerleading routine was credited to Paula Abdul...

Yep.

Hehe. I want to know how a guy can call out "MARIA!" in the middle of the Italian district, and only one Maria opens her window...

This was a while ago.

I definitely don't dare go there any more, which is a shame.

Good.

Since writing this, I've noticed that Ross *has* ridden in Phoebe's cab - in 325 "TOA the Beach" (oh the Brownie points that someone has missed out on by revealing this to me) - but we didn't actually see any of the journey, to find out if he avoids banging his head.

Yep.

Thanks.

Well, all the S7 figures are down because I haven't made my contribution yet, and I'm wondering if I should hold off 705-712 and 717-724 until I can do them in the full length versions.

Absolutely.

Indeed. Coming to live with Monica & then Joey caused significant shifts in Rachel's character, while her year with Ross made little difference.

That was the key word though, "evolve". He's not going back.

Smil.

TFTT

Okay, well maybe you're right about Ross making a useful contribution, but maybe I'm right about Ross not causing a hostile confrontation, and I want to see Judy with her nose out of joint (that's an expression).

Consider Phoebe on Mrs.Burkart's heels in 406 "TOW the Dirty Girl"...

Again?

Not Rachel's, though! :)

Oh, my information says the 4th.

Awww... I take it you speak from personal experience. :(

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Hehe, call Mena Suvari or Gillian Anderson.

Good thing she has moved on from her pop career. :)

I guess "his" Maria was the only one half expecting a visitor that late. The version I saw on stage was rather modern and controversial, where Bernardo was played by an African-American from the USA, while Maria was played by a fair-skinned Norwegian girl. How they were related, we never found out.... ;)

You shouldn't dare to, either. There was a thread which was rather spoilerish the other day, but luckily, the moderators managed to erase it rather quickly.

Oh, that's right! How could we forget?

That's probably a good idea. I just can't wait to see the uncut versions..

I guess her job was a rather big change, but as for Rachel herself, she has only become really strong and independent after she moved in with Joey.

I don't think so either.

I think Ross would have been both kind *and* useful.

She's a Hard-Ass and way out of his league... ;)

Rachel's numerous pairs of shoes ended up in that book.

I certainly hope not! :)

www.zap2it.com announces that Survivor will start on October 11th, and that's a very reliable source.

Nothing dramatical, though. It's an old piece of advice which is nice to know.

Perhaps Phoebe's body is faster than Western medicine in that department too and counts all babies leaving her body, one way or the other? j/k

Yep. Move over Condit and Clinton, there's a new girl on the political arena who's done worse things than both of you.

IC.

TT.

Perhaps they showed Bambi or E.T.

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Oooohhhh.... meltdown.

Hehe.

So if a guy walks down your street calling out "MARITA!" without prior appointment, you wouldn't open your window for a look?

Of course, his name would be Tonty... :)

Creative casting.

Good. I just hope that I still have moderator status when I return.

Even Homer nods...

Okay, in that case I'll take it easy with 713-716 until I get the DVDs.

I've only got 713-716 at the moment, but they are *not* uncut. They are extended versions, they are longer than the supersized versions, but I have seen stuff in British or Americans aired versions that is not on the DVDs, I'm afraid. When I get a chance I'll do proper transcripts.

Absolutely.

Good. :)

Yeah, I don't want to see "kind". :)

Which is why I want to see Phoebe go for the wolverine's throat.

LOL!

Not yet! :)

Okay.

Oh, okay. I was just a bit concerned. :)

Hehe - she's dropped that line since she read the story in the little box.

I knoww!! :)

That point you made about Rachel using sex as a way of keeping Ross from talking about his life & interests is definitely one to remember...

Hah! Not even remotely sad!

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Lol! So your wish for season 8 is a redhead as a gueststar?

Hehe, okay, I would definitely start wondering if that happened. But that's mainly because *very* few people are named Marita. You do have a point, though. :)

Lol! Of course. Antont. Gosh, that sounds like mutant.

Yep, and a brilliant performance.

So you'll return after 801 has been aired?

Simpson or the Greek poet?

Why on earth are they making so many different versions of the episodes?

And only time will tell whether the writers agree with us.

Hehe, perhaps I'm like Monica and don't want any hostile confrontations. :)

Street Phoebe vs Judy Geller... I think I know who would win that fight.

Hehe, that was one of the scariest fairy tales ever. Lily probaby protected her from Hexcadrin as well as Old Yeller.

Thanks. It's a rather important issue, too. And to tell you the truth, this means one point for Phoebe, zero for Rachel.

So what do they find sad? A Knicks game where the Knicks lose?

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Or for Rachel to become a redhead. :)

Thankee..

Exactly - whereas Mari would get Ton, and so Mardi would get Todn.

Probably not - it won't be until I know who the father is, at least.

Hehe. Greek poet.

Different markets I guess. I've just finished S7-16, and IMHO it is a very good edit, with a much better flow than all the aired versions.

Eeshk!

Awww... you're such a sweetie!

Oh for sure, but think of Judy as a hard-nails version of Mrs.Burkart...

Yes indeed. In the full version of the episode, Phoebe's character is a little more sympathetic, and she apologises nicely to Monica.

I know!!!

Which isn't to say that Phoebe's no fun.

Tell me, do you reckon that Rachel is very bendy?

Would she be able to put both legs over her head?

Something real, not a fiction. A sporting tragedy, yes, if you care deeply enough about your team. The loss of someone or something or a pet perhaps. And if not that, then your mother dying in your arms...

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Perhaps you should write a letter to Brad and ask him to tell her she'd look great as a redhead. ;)

Lol! And who would you get? Mariant? ;)

Just checking. ;)

I'm looking forward to see it. How long are the uncut episodes on your DVD?

Smil. Thanks.

Lol! I really hope she won't be singing that much onboard the Mr Bowmont once they've thrown Jack's body overboard.

Really? Thank goodness! Are you doing a transcript of this new DVD-version of the episode?

Smil.

No, absolutely not. But she doesn't think of it as a way of shutting him up.

Lol! Rachel "foot of the bed" Green doesn't strike me as the reallly bendy type.

I don't think so.

Awww.. Luckily, Joey didn't have to live through such a tragedy.

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Yes, that would work...

RPGOL!!! Well, that's quite close, but you didn't double the middle consonant or change the leading vowel. Let me see, Tony gets Maria, Tonty gets Marita, Tont gets Marit, Tonant gets Mariant, Tonnant gets Marriant, and so Tennant gets either Morriant or Murriant!

You betcha. :)

Oh, I haven't checked - hang on I'll pop the DVD on...

..okay, they're 26:09, 22:43, 27:26, and 28:47 - note that's in PAL.

VSG

She won't even be there, she'll be chasing after Gunther.

Already done, and I'll do the other three when I get the chance.

Exactamento. :)

Oh god yes, Ross should have heeded the warning.

Not even in Milwaukee?

Yeah, well, he's lucky, as you say.

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Hehe. Yep.

Lol!!

Okay. Only a couple of days to go now. :)

And he'll be up in heaven chasing some dead actress. (Not Rita Moreno, though.)

Great! Could you please send me a copy?

Love is deaf, so...

Lol! Yeah, all the people in Milwaukee are gymnasts.

Yep.

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Sigh.... :)

Extrapolation is such a wondrous thing...

Ooh, if it was me, I'd be chasing Gene Tierney.

BOC - and it's now I'll do the other two when I get the chance.

Yes, but unfortunately, love isn't dyslexic.

Hehe.

And now he has... :(

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Yes, I thought that was really funny. :)

Hmmm.. No picture at IMDB. Oh, well. I think I'd be chasing Clark Gable or James Dean. :)

Great! I haven't seen 715 yet, so is that really different from the versions that we saw on NBC and in Europe?

Hehe. There's this joke about that: What does KLM stand for? National Dyslexic Society. (No offence to any dyslexics, though! Almost half of our royal family are dyslexic, so...)

Yes. :( It's difficult to understand that it is only eight days since we were worried about all these stupid little things, and now all the countries in the world (and especially this country) have been turned upside down. The Americans deserve all the kudos they can get for what they've done the last week, and I'm truly impressed by them.

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Thanks, sweetie!

Gud4U. Her first role, on Broadway, consisted of carrying a bucket of water across the stage, prompting one critic to announce "Miss Tierney is, without doubt, the most beautiful water carrier I have ever seen!"

If you get the chance, try to see "The Ghost and Mrs.Muir" from 1947.

Yes: there's more winking at the start; there was some more of the speed dial contest (Phoebe is winning at one point, because Tom does yoga, and Rachel regrets it didn't say "yoghurt"); Monica tells Chandler about Ross rapping at her Bat Mitzvah (proving she's Jewish), and they discuss how to avoid hurting the poor guy's feelings; but OTOH there is no blooper show.

Of course the difference between the DVD and the short version is vast, but the DVD is not uncut. In the European version Tom also had the names Carlos & David on his speed dial, missing from NBC's version & the DVD.

Dyslexia lures...

Absolutely, Marita. We've discussed some of America's shortcomings over the years, but if we didn't basically like the place we wouldn't be huge fans of such an American sitcom - and right now we are witnessing the remarkable spirit of the American people. I'm impressed too.

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Sorry to butt in here but is the version shown by NBC of 715 the same as the DVD one? The one I have is 28 mins long.

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Woops sorry! I'm surprised that Monica and Ross are actually fully Jewish, as in 710 Ross says that he's part Jewish (or is he refering to him and ben?).Also wasn't Kip Jewish-I'm refering to TOW the blackout. It's strange that how one extra sentence can change something...

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Ok...neither Monica or Ross look Jewish.....Jack does slightly I think but that's no basis to judge them on though!

Yeah but there wasn't a roomate before Kip was there...I mean before that it was Ross! Aha!

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The only Jewish main cast member is Lisa Kudrow.

Elliott Goldstein was born in Brooklyn, New York.

I don't quite know what you mean by Ross, but before Chandler lived there, Kip's roommate was Bob.

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Wow....are the other cast members Christians or non-religous?

Lol I guessed he was from somewhere in the us!

that

I meant by Ross that it would have been in college wouldn't it? I've only just remembered Bob but he wouldn't have been there at the same time as Chandler....he could have left the candle thing there though...

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No idea.

Where?

Well he hasn't got a clear NY accent, he must have moved or something.

Yep, Chandler & Bob were not roomies - it was Bob & Kip, Kip & Chandler, Chandler & Joey, Chandler & Eddie, Chandler & Joey, Monica & Rachel, Chandler & Joey, Chandler & Joey & Ross, Chandler & Joey, Joey & Janine, Joey & Phoebe, and Joey & Rachel.

That's called a menorah, and Joey said it belonged to Chandler's Jewish roommate, so that was Kip, not Bob. Ross & Monica also have a menorah.

Thanks! I couldn't remember the name...it's a long time since I've done RE!

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something.

Yeah, I've noticed thatm none of them have strong NY accents.

the

Chandler,

Rachel,

Janine,

Jewish

menorah.

done

And who said the internet was a waste of time and money?!

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Well, it's not a waste of money...

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The times I wish we had American tv over here....

have a

Lol, depends what your phone bill is!

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They used to show Letterman on the Sky One and then the Paramount channel, but they stopped. I don't know why? Maybe it didn't go down well, or maybe just cost too much. But I used to like it. Of course the humour could be a little TOO American at times, but you did get to see the big names more. And not just the US stars either.

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Yes but my first one was �50!

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Yep, I'm very happy with mine.

Is that all?

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VSG. Now I only need to find a Tonty...

What is it about?

Lol! Oh, my gosh, Phoebe and a distinguished, old gentleman doing yoga... TWWWS!

RPGOL!!!

Oh, that blooper show is a gem!

Interesting. So now I only need the European version.. :)

Yep.

Definitely. Besides, I'm living proof of how much I like the USA. I wouldn't be living here otherwise. I went to a baseballgame a couple of days ago, and it was the first game since the attack. It was an incredible experience. The flags, the national anthem, and the people at the game shouting "USA! USA! USA!"... I've never seen anything like it.

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Awww.. Let me be your Tonty, and you can be my Murriant! :)

Directed by Joseph L. Mankiewicz, Gene Tierney plays Mrs.Lucy Muir, a strong-willed widow with a 9-year-old daughter (Natalie Wood no less), who in 1900 escapes from living with her sisters-in-law, by moving to haunted Gull Cottage on the coast of Britain. On their first night she meets the ghost of crusty former owner Captain Gregg, (Rex Harrison), but although he plays the same tricks on Lucy that he used to get rid of previous tenants, she refuses to be scared off. Indeed, they become friends & allies, at least once Lucy gets used to the idea of a man's ghost haunting her bedroom. The ghost who loved solitude soon comes to admire the spirit of this beautiful woman, so to make it possible for her to afford to stay on in the house, he decides that she will write a best-seller, his captain's memoirs. But when Lucy visits a London publisher, she also impresses a famous author of children's books, Miles Fairley (George Sanders), who later on comes courting at Gull Cottage. Thus Lucy & Gregg must deal with their feelings for each other, as the ghost discovers he might still be prey to jealousy.

Okay, it's in.

I knowww!!

Absolutely, but unlike the supersized episodes, I think there is a fair chance that one day it will be shown on European television.

Has that not been shown in Norway? (It's the same as the E4 version).

Indeed.

Did you lustily join in?

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Gosh! Sounds like a black, serious, British version of "Ghost". Having just seen "The Others", it would be interesting to see this flick, though. And Rex Harrison is always great.

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<g> I finally got to see it last night, and it was good. However, I was rather disappointed that they didn't include the original tag scene where Phoebe and Ross perform together at Central Perk.

fair

I hope so. People should get to see that one. It's too bad it's not on the DVD.

vast,

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DVD.

Nope, it will be the first "new" episode this fall. They are showing reruns of season 6 at the moment, and 715 will be aired on October 2nd.

first

the

Yep. I sang all of them, and in the end I found myself quite choked up. You just can't help it, the whole thing gets to you like nothing else.

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It's not serious, it's a fantasy romance, and "Ghost" was 43 years later.

Yeah.

That's right, it goes to show that the DVDs are not uncut.

I can only guess that the scene did not play well.

Yes, it would have made a great extra.

Ilg.

Awww... inside every European is an American struggling to get out. :)

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Well, Ghost was the only movie I could think of that had a romance between a human being and a ghost. :)

Yep.

I guess so, but it must have been hilarious nonetheless. Ross playing the bagpipes almost beat his helicoptersounds.

I know. Dozens of people from other countries are desperate to see that show. One word: Kazaa.

Pardon? (That wasn't in your acronym-list, was it?)

Seems like it. Besides, I love to sing, so why not? :)

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Sigh.

Fair enough, sweetie.

I'm sure there are more, but I can't think of one right now. :)

Maybe one day...

I've heard of that. So have somebody's lawyers...

No sweetie, it's not an acronym, but onomatopoeia.

Yay!

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I just remembered "Always" and "The Sixth Sense".

Let's hope so..

Shhh... j/k ;) It'll be difficult to close Kazaa, though, because it's nothing like Napster.

Ah, I see.

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� ja, but weren't both romances unrequited though?

Yeah.. :)

They could still prosecute the recipients.

I knew you would. :)

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I can't really say that I remember the plot in "Always" that well, but Anna loved Malcolm in The Sixth Sense. She couldn't let go of him, so I'd say that she loved him, even though he was dead.

Speaking of which, I finally received the season 7 box set today. I know what I'll be watching tonight! The Americans stared at the DVDs, dumbfounded. "Where did you get those?" they wondered. ;)

Yes, you're right, but I cannot see it happening in the near future. Besides, this is a case the movie - and the music industry are bound to lose. People have the tools, and they won't stop downloading files.

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How many of them think you're Swedish?

Oh, and does PDC work over there? (Program Delivery Control - VCRs record the right shows even if broadcast much earlier or later than scheduled.)

It's still best not to advertise what one is up to.

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Only in theory - after a couple of failures, I dumped PDC for ever! :(

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Do you have a JVC by any chance? I have a friend with three VCRs of which two work with PDC, but one sometimes misses, and that's a JVC.

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A Matsui & a Sharp.

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In article , Paul Hyett wrote:

That's very strange. Is your reception good?

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On Thu, 4 Oct 2001, Tennant Stuart stated this considered view. Waking from my doze, I hastily scrawled -

The Matsui VCR is connected to Sky Digi, so there's only problems during very heavy rain. The Sharp is connected to the outside aerial, which has good reception.

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In article , Paul Hyett wrote:

There's no PDC on Sky Digi though, is there?

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On Fri, 5 Oct 2001, Tennant Stuart stated this considered view. Waking from my doze, I hastily scrawled -

I have no idea, since I don't trust PDC anyway.

I use a One-For-All Topline 5 remote anyway. It can control TV/VCR & Sky, plus it has a timer!

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In article , Paul Hyett wrote:

Well, what do you do when you're going out, but the golf (or something equally thrilling is on) and you know it's gonna run well over?

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On Sat, 6 Oct 2001, Tennant Stuart stated this considered view. Waking from my doze, I hastily scrawled -

Set the VCR to run longer, of course!

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In article , Paul Hyett wrote:

What if it's a couple of movies?

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On Mon, 8 Oct 2001, Tennant Stuart stated this considered view. Waking from my doze, I hastily scrawled -

That never happens - it's rare that I watch even one!

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In article , Paul Hyett wrote:

Not a big movie fan, then?

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On Tue, 9 Oct 2001, Tennant Stuart stated this considered view. Waking from my doze, I hastily scrawled -

No - I usually watch just sci-fi movies, and ones with my fav actresses in.

There was one yesterday on Granada Breeze with Dedee Pfeiffer : 'Shoot'. For once she got 2nd billing - as the female lead, rather than way down the credits list. It also starred Chris Atkins (of Blue Lagoon fame).

Not very good, but she looked HOT as always! :)

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In article , Paul Hyett wrote:

So Cocoon 2 was pretty good for you then?

She would, if big sis didn't knock spots off her... <g>

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On Fri, 12 Oct 2001, Tennant Stuart stated this considered view. Waking from my doze, I hastily scrawled -

I said I watched them - I didn't say I liked them. :)

Oh come on, Dedee makes Michelle look like a dog!

Fight! Fight!

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Don't be silly. I'll knock you flat if you dare touch my woman, but as it is you can have the baby and I'll make do with the crone. Okay? :)

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On Sat, 13 Oct 2001, Tennant Stuart stated this considered view. Waking from my doze, I hastily scrawled -

She looked good in Grease 2, but she was a lot younger then, of course!

OK - quiz question :

Can you name two movies in which Dedee & Michelle both appeared?

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On Sun, 14 Oct 2001, Paul Hyett stated this considered view. Waking from my doze, I hastily scrawled -

Sorry, there have been three, but I've only seen two of them.

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The Pfeiffer sisters might have been in two of those movies listed: Dangerous Minds, To Gillian on Her 37th Birthday, One Fine Day, Fabulous Baker Boys, Grease 2, and, maybe, Wolf. I'm not sure myself, but they must have been in two of the movies I just mentioned.

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On Mon, 15 Oct 2001, Bud knotts stated this considered view. Waking from my doze, I hastily scrawled -

No, only Michelle was in those movies.

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In article , [email] (Bud knotts) wrote:

As far as I know, Michelle was in all six of those movies, while Dedee was in none of them. Maybe you're confusing "Dangerous Minds" & "Wolf" with "Dangerously Close" & "Vamp". However, don't let me put you off Bud, if you should discover that Dedee was in *any* of those six movies, (in some uncredited role perhaps), then please be sure to let us know.

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On Mon, 15 Oct 2001, Paul Hyett stated this considered view. Waking from my doze, I hastily scrawled -

Give up? OK then :

The three movies in which both Pfeiffer sisters have appeared in are :

Into the Night (1985) Frankie & Johnny (1991) Up Close and Personal (1996)

(The last of those sounds a good place to be with either one of them!)

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In article , Paul Hyett wrote:

Ah, I've just answered that!

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Oh for sure, but she was 24 years old when she made that. Imagine what she was like when she won the 'Miss Orange County' beauty pageant at 18, and then 'Miss California' a couple of years later. But for me the real jaw-dropper was when she played Catwoman, as an old lady of 34... ;)

I can name *three* - "Frankie and Johnny", "Into the Night", and "Up Close & Personal". Incidentally, if you get the chance watch Michelle and Harrison Ford in "What Lies Beneath". I dare not say why... :)

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On Wed, 17 Oct 2001, Tennant Stuart stated this considered view. Waking from my doze, I hastily scrawled -

While wearing a skin-tight suit & carrying a big whip? Is there anything you want to tell us? :)

Not even by email? :)

Regards,

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Yeah.

I don't remember her carrying a big whip, so what's in your head? :)

No, for your own benefit, my dear friend.

It's on ITV Request from Friday, in anamorphic widescreen.

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Tennant Stuart wrote in message news:...

That's true. Have you seen the deleted end scene on The Sixth Sense DVD? It's really sweet and romantic, although I understand why they decided to cut it.

None of them. They think I'm British for some strange reason. :)

My VCR does not have that, and I'm afraid I don't know about other, more advanced VCRs.

Or you could just start downloading legal movies from the movie studios' websites. I'm sure we'll see lots of that in the future.

~Marita [email]
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In article , [email] (Marita Bakken) wrote:

Yeah. :)

No, I haven't, but I probably shall, one day...

Ah, I once asked you if your spoken English was as superb as your written English, and now I appreciate how modest your reply was. :)

Okie dokie sweetie.

Gosh, do they do that? How do they charge for it?

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Tennant Stuart wrote:

The DVD is a real treat. It features lots of extra scenes and interviews, as well as an interesting videoclip where the director explains how he chose colours for each scene.

Yes, they made the world's first internet movie last year. It is called "Quantum Project", starring John Cleese and Stephen Dorff. I read in Empire that they were going to make more of these movies, but I can't remember the names of any of them. I don't know how you'll be able to pay for it, though.

~Marita [email]
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In article , [email] (Marita Bakken) wrote:

Oh yes, a bit like "The Matrix".

According to the IMDb, it's only 40 minutes long.

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Tennant Stuart wrote in message news:...

Yep. Meanwhile, I hear the new Godfather DVDs (region 1) are amazing. The advertisements for the DVD-collection are everywhere at the moment. Have the DVDs arrived in the UK yet?

I guess that makes sense given the downloadspeed one can get on the net. Besides, you'll need ISDN or DSL to download it, and until most people get access to that, moviefans will prefer the cinema.

~Marita [email]
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"Marita Bakken" wrote in message

Yes very recently. 5 DVDs - 1 disc for Parts 1 and III, 2 for Part II and 1 for "bonus" material. Retailing at about �55 with some but not heavy advertising.

Pete

Tennant StuartMarita Bakken

In article , [email] (Marita Bakken) wrote:

Oh yes, the reviews are ecstatic. But don't forget that F.F.Coppola produced a five-part mini series from his trilogy, each episode being almost two hours long, using all the deleted scenes from the movies, and everything edited into chronological order. That was brilliant.

I can drive to the cinema, allow myself an ice-cream, watch the movie twice, and go home again, in less time than it would take to download the movie, and all for less money too.

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On Sat, 13 Oct 2001 17:55:46 BST, Tennant Stuart wrote:

So he didn't release that series on this collection, then? I'm going to buy the collection if I can afford it, but it's rather expensive.

I can download 24/7 if I want to, because my internet access is free. The quality, however, can never compare to the cinema.

~Marita [email]
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In article , [email] (Marita Bakken) wrote:

I'm not sure of what's in the collection, which is why I warned you.

Lucky you! :)

This is it.

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On Wed, 17 Oct 2001 13:37:48 BST, Tennant Stuart wrote:

going

expensive.

Okay, thanks. I'll make sure to check before I buy it, then.

movie

download

free.

Well, you need some advantages when you don't get all the European technical "goodies" anymore. ;)

Absolutely. However, sometimes I prefer to save a few bucks. :)

~Marita [email]
Tennant StuartMarita Bakken

In article , [email] (Marita Bakken) wrote:

Check out the versions from Regions 1, 2, and 4.

Yeah - "Band of Brothers" is amazing in anamorphic widescreen...

Oh, everyone loves a freebie!

Tennant - incidentally, this the 800th post to this thread. :)

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On Thu, 18 Oct 2001 15:40:27 BST, Tennant Stuart wrote:

Are there many different versions?

I'm so annoyed that I didn't get to see that. (I don't have HBO.) Well, at least there is an interesting mini-series called "Uprising" on NBC in November that stars David Schwimmer.

Absolutely!

Gosh! :)
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I don't know, I'm just advising you to tread warily.

Well, over there it would be panned & scanned anyway.

And does he play yet another unsympathetic character?

I knowwww! And check out my review of 802, with 803 up tomorrow.

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Tennant Stuart wrote in message news:...

Considering how much the collection costs, I think I'll have to. $100!

Yeah. ER is a bit strange on these screens.

No, he is one of the heroes. AFAIK, he plays one of Hank Azaria's best friends.

~Marita [email]
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In article , [email] (Marita Bakken) wrote:

I guess you'll have to use the internet, since America doesn't have proper DVD magazines (either that, or nobody on ATF/AF reads them).

What do they do?

Really? Small world...

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Okay, here we are. You go.

I'm thinking that we rarely see Jake because he is the surprise father.

If so, who is the mother?????

Snipped from S7-23...

But we saw at the rehearsal dinner that he was trying as best he could to come to terms with an unfamiliar situation.

Sorry, but I'm not sure which part that was...

Also, when Ross showed Chandler's note to the girls, Rachel took him strangely seriously, didn't she? A hint of something going on?

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Charles had to have some sort of knowledge about his, how shall I put it, unusual sexuality rather early on in their relationship. When the parents of the bride and groom were gathered in Monica's room at the hotel, the Bings said:

Mrs. Bing: As I recall when we got married, I saw the groom in the wedding dress. Mr. Bing: But that was after the wedding, it�s not bad luck then. Mrs. Bing: Honey, it isn�t good luck.

I guess you could argue that this doesn't have to mean that he knew he was gay right after they tied the knot, but it certainly is a sign of his hidden passion for women's clothing.

Oh, I hadn't thought of that possibility (him being away because they want to keep it a surprise, that is).

It could very well be Phoebe. Her dress wasn't nearly as tight as Rachel's.

Yes, that's true. I just wish we had seen the moment when the two of them first met.

I was shocked by the fact that it probably was Rachel's pregnancy test.

What are you implying? Chandler and Rachel? I hope that's not the case.

~Marita [email]
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I'd guess that most transvestites are�heterosexual, although they tend to keep it in the privacy of their bedrooms. Certainly both Chandler & Joey have worn female underwear, and Ross used to dress up as a woman.

Yep.

Unless Monica went further with Jake than we were shown.

That was it on the screen, their first meeting. Wasn't it?

Okay.

It could be, but I was implying Ross & Rachel had put their silliness behind them. Notice how only Phoebe laughed at Ross once Rachel had seen that she was pregnant (if she had done).

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On Thu, 28 Jun 2001 21:45:29 BST, Tennant Stuart wrote:

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Okay, they all did it for the fun of it, but Charles put on his new bride's wedding dress. I find that rather disturbing. If we see Chandler in a white dress and a veil in 801, I'm going to dread the couple's future.

<shudders>

Pardon? Jack met Nora, but he was never introduced to Charles onscreen. They were sitting together in Monica's hotel room later, but they didn't say a word to each other there.

Ah. I don't know if that's a hint or not, though. It could be, of course, but I think she was so worried about Monica and Chandler (and her own pregnancy), that she wasn't in the mood for poking fun at anybody at that point.

~Marita [email]
Tennant StuartMarita Bakken

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Maybe, but that's kinky, it's not gay.

He'll be more interested in what Monica can di with a sock.

It's a possibility.

Oh sorry, I misremembered. Jack thought he had met Helena, but in fact it was Nora. But for the question of what Jack thought of him, that meeting still showed him trying as best he could to come to terms with an unfamiliar situation.

Oh sure, we're just exploring possibilities here.

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On Fri, 29 Jun 2001, Tennant Stuart stated this considered view. Waking from my doze, I hastily scrawled -

It probably seemed kinky at the time, but with hindsight... :)

Just looking back at TOW the Chick & the Duck, it was Monica who knew about Chandler's sock. Funny - I always thought is was Phoebe that brought that up to Monica, I guess my memory is going. :)

When I think about it, C&M did seem to know more secrets about each other than the others did - Fun Bobby's underwear, 3rd nipple etc.

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Just remember the difference between kinky and erotic. Erotic is when you use a feather, kinky is when you use the whole chicken.

Grin. Chandler has always had a thing about socks. He once fantasised about having a sock on his hand for 30 years, Janice wisely gave him socks as presents, he admired the monkey juggling balled-up socks for him, and who can forget the sock bunny which had to be put behind the night-stand after Monica had helped him to soil it...

It was obvious to me for many years that C&M were destined to be a couple, but no-one would believe me. I'm currently having rather more success with the prospects for Ross & Phoebe.

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On Sat, 30 Jun 2001, Tennant Stuart stated this considered view. Waking from my doze, I hastily scrawled -

Use it for what?

On second thoughts, DON'T ANSWER THAT! :)

You just did a database search on 'Chandler' & 'socks', didn't you! :)

But who did you tell, since you only joined this NG after they'd got together?

I just can't see that happening (notwithstanding TOW the Flashback), for me, it's gotta be Ross & Rachel or nothing!

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It's absolutely fantastic. What you do is...

..oh, okay.

That's right. I told you I don't spend much time on this stuff. :)

Fellow fans, when they'd listen. We've been meeting since January 1998.

Been there, done that, got them on DVD.

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On Fri, 29 Jun 2001 02:41:31 BST, Tennant Stuart wrote:

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Which is why I said that it didn't need to be a sign of him being gay.

Hehe. I don't even want to know...

I guess so. But that idea made me want to watch the vows all over again to make sure that nothing is wrong between the newlyweds.

Which is what he has been doing ever since Ross dropped that bomb on him that Carol was a lesbian and carrying his baby.

Yep, we have time to do that now.

~Marita [email]
Tennant StuartMarita Bakken

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Oh! Yes. Sorry. You're right. :)

Oh, not one for the TWWWS then?

I think that Monica was 100% up until the moment she heard that Chandler had took off, but the fact that he was there proved something, and once he had made his vows she was content. There never seemed to be a moment of doubt about her. Still, you never know...

Exactly - not that we have ever seen Carol & the Gellers together (they were all in 102 "TOW the Sonogram at the End" but shared no scenes).

Sure, although most of the Brit fans start S7 in 9 days time...

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TT.

Eh.. I'm not sure. The R-rated version of the list perhaps?

I cannot see it happening, sorry. Then again, I guess that's what the R+R fans said in the beginning of season 3 about Ross cheating. But it would be awful if they turned both the Gellers into cheating jerks.

That's too bad. I'd like to see how Judy and Carol got along..

And I guess many British fans will buy the videos on July 9th as well? I'm green with envy...

~Marita [email]
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It's fairly well R-rated in places already. ;)

Exactly. We can say what we want to happen, we can say what we expect will happen, but we don't know what the writers will make happen.

We have one clue - Carol denied that she called Judy a wolverine. (114)

Oh, the videos are out already, that's when the DVDs come out.

You can order them over the internet, can't you?

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Lol! You're right. Put it in. Perhaps we should split the list up in different sections, based on the rating! :)

This didn't have anything to do with X-Men, did it?

Really? Blackstar said that the last three videos came out on July 9th. I already have the first three videos, so I wasn't talking about them.

Yeah, but won't it be cheaper to get the box-set?

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Okay, how about..

The naughty things that Monica does with a humble sock.

Err, perhaps not - it's complicated enough as it is...

Not unless Bill Lawrence is psychic, since he wrote that line four years before the movie was made (with the actress who played the Dirty Girl).

I was talking about the middle three videos - I guess I was misled by all the advertising there has been.

Yes indeed, although the cheapest way is if you happen to find some on special offer in a British store, though you have to be lucky since they don't last all that long.

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Umm, X-men has been around a heck of a lot longer than Friends. I watched the cartoon as a kid. The movie was not the beginning of the X-men.

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In article , "Tana" wrote:

Ah yes, Tana - that is a good point. I was too aware that Rebecca Romijn-Stamos, who was Cheryl in 406 "TOW the Dirty Girl", went on to play Raven 'Mystique' Darkholme in the X-Men movie.

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Grin.

I guess you're right. I can't wait to see the laminated version. :)

I saw the two first s7 DVDs in a store downtown last week, and they cost �23 each (apparently they came directly from Britain), and frankly, that's way too expensive. I'm not going to Britain in the near future, so I'll just buy them on the internet. It's the easiest way to do it when you're not lucky enough to be a Brit. :)

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That's still a little way off, especially since you've slowed down a bit.

That is.

Yep, and in fact that's what most of us do as well, since these special offers only apply to a limited stock the store has just bought, so one has to be Mister Right Place At The Right Time, as Janice might say.

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That wasn't me. That was the lightning. :) Anyway, it will be up very, very soon. Promise. :)

Let me guess, big sales at HMV or such? BTW, will the box set have both the cut *and* the uncut version of all the episodes?

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Aaargh. You are having a bad time of it, sweetie.

Yay!!! :)

It tends to be a pile of (only) several thousand DVDs at a supermarket like Tescos or ASDA, on sale for �24 BOGOF (buy one get one free), and by the time you hear about it & get there, they have all been sold.

The last time this happened I said that they should have sold them for �24 B4SGAMRPF (buy 4 seasons get a multi-region player free).

Dunno. IIRC the discs are available in a 'lite' version that has just the cut episodes, so you need to be sure that is not what you get.

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I know!!!

Gosh, that's a pretty good offer! I heard about one offer here where you got three DVDs when you bought a new player, but that didn't have anything to do with Friends. In fact, I've never seen the Friends DVD box sets in this country.

Thanks for the warning. I'll look out for that.

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One supermarket is now offering a pretty good player for less than �100, so the above deal could now be B3SGAMRPF. I dunno if it is multi-region, but that tends to be the case if you avoid overpriced Japanese machines.

VSG

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On Sat, 28 Jul 2001 14:39:44 BST, Tennant Stuart wrote:

Are there any players that are regarded as the best ones? I saw that Samsung won a couple of tests here.

Hopefully, the box set will have both the cut and the uncut versions.

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In article , [email] (Marita Bakken) wrote:

Since I bought my own player, I've not taken much notice, sorry.

Hopefully, but be sure before buying.

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On Thu, 02 Aug 2001 20:02:58 BST, Tennant Stuart wrote:

Okay. :)

I will. I guess it's very likely that they will list the special features of the box sets on the different web sites out there.

~Marita [email]
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In article , [email] (Marita Bakken) wrote:

But I've just got an issue of "Home Entertainment" magazine, and for a budget player they recommend the Cyber Home AD-M512, for a luxury player the Toshiba SD-900E, and in between the Toshiba SD-200E.

I'll email you all the details if you like.

Incidentally, you can now get 32" widescreen TVs for only 400 quid!

Please give me the URLs if you find any.

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On Sun, 05 Aug 2001 13:10:51 BST, Tennant Stuart wrote:

BTW, Toshiba has pretty good DVD-ROM drives, IMO.

Okay. :)

That must be a good offer!

Okay. They're the usual ones, though. Amazon, Blackstar, HMV, Play247 etc.

~Marita [email]
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In article , [email] (Marita Bakken) wrote:

Sure, but remember what I warned you.

On their way.

It bloody is!

I was hoping for something to click on. :)

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On Wed, 08 Aug 2001 19:59:20 BST, Tennant Stuart wrote:

Thanks, but it works great at the moment. :)

TT.

That will probably show up in a couple of weeks as no specific details about the box set have shown up yet.

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In article , [email] (Marita Bakken) wrote:

Have you driven a TV set with it? Regions 1 & 2? Copied to VHS?

Any good?

All I've heard so far is that the set costs �7 more than just the DVDs.

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On Sat, 11 Aug 2001 02:09:28 BST, Tennant Stuart wrote:

Nope. I'll check how it works on a TV in the USA. As for the regions, I'm still looking for a program, and I didn't know you could copy it to VHS from a DVD-ROM.. I'm still a rookie here... :)

Interesting! I don't think we've got half of them, though.

Weird. Are you sure that those DVDs have all the extra special features?

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In article , [email] (Marita Bakken) wrote:

Most American TVs don't have the socketry that we take for granted.

Do a search for your model of drive on the internet.

If it can drive a TV set, then it can make a VHS tape.

The trick is to turn Macrovision off to get a good recording.

Oh don't worry, the same applies here, as model numbers are always changing. Just find something similar then check it out.

No, I'm not. But DVD Zone 2 are offering Season 7 on pre-order for only 59.97 euros, which is currently �37.85 or $53.74 or 484 nok.

               http://www.dvdzone2.com/cgi-bin/en/
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I'm not getting it until I know exactly what is on it, though.

Paul 'US Sitcom Fan' Hyett - The Wild Frame Grabber of the Net! Website at http://www.activist.demon.co.uk/USsitcoms/
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Although I quoted prices for a whole season, they are in fact selling them in three lots, so you can buy 1/3rd of the season, that's two discs, stipulating that you want the uncut versions in English, then get a refund if they don't comply.

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On Tue, 14 Aug 2001 17:02:42 BST, Tennant Stuart wrote:

What happened to the global village and international products.... :)

Okay, I'll try that.

I see.

I don't know which player that is most similar to mine, as my player wasn't even mentioned.

Yeah, but I don't quite understand that. The season 7 DVDs are released with only four episodes on each disc (plus four uncut episodes), while DVD Zone 2 says that they have eight episodes on a disc...

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In article , [email] (Marita Bakken) wrote:

It exists, it's just that America is trailing behind due to corporate greed (so much for being a free country) while the propaganda in their media lies to them that they're leading the world. Very sad.

Have you seen what Macrovision does to a pirate tape?

Oh, that will happen, since they can't list them all. The idea is to find a player for sale matching one in the list that you like.

Their site actually says...

     FRIENDS SEASON 7      Pre-Order      Our Price :
     EPISODES 1-8          07/11/2001     19.99
     FRIENDS SEASON 7      Pre-Order      Our Price :
     EPISODES 17-24        07/11/2001     19.99
     FRIENDS SEASON 7      Pre-Order      Our Price :
     EPISODES 9-16         07/11/2001     19.99

..which I *assumed* meant there were two discs per box, but I have a horrible feeling that you're right sweetie, in which case don't touch them (unless anyone reading this is content with the aired versions).

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On Thu, 16 Aug 2001 12:05:51 BST, Tennant Stuart wrote:

Yes, I've heard about that, which is why I wanted to buy my new computer in Europe, and not in the USA. Something tells me that wouldn't have been a good choice.

Do you mean the poor quality?

Oh, gotcha now. :)

I'm going to stick to my plan of buying them in the UK to make sure they've got the extra features, or at blackstar or amazon.

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In article , [email] (Marita Bakken) wrote:

Too true.

Yah, it really shags it up.

Okay.

Check out Play247.

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On Fri, 17 Aug 2001 18:25:39 BST, Tennant Stuart wrote:

Yep. :(

I did, and they seem to be cheapest on the net at the moment...

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In article , [email] (Marita Bakken) wrote:

Do a web search for information about your player. There will be a code to access its service menu, but whether it's known is another matter.

Yep.

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It's quite simple. It shows Chandler & Monica posing for their wedding photos while standing in the aisle, with extras sitting behind them.

I'll post it to you.

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Thanks! I should have known that was the picture you were referring to, though. I have the original myself (thanks to NBC Media Village), and the quality is excellent. And Chandler really knows how to smile... You can see it at: http://www.nbcmv.com/pw2/photos/preview/Primetime/Friends/2FRNbi00.jpg

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Ah - even before I look it up, I recognise that URL as where the armadillo picture came from.

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They have all the official, really good pictures there. You can find several pictures from last season on this page: http://www.nbcmv.com/pw2/main/photo.cgi?&cmd=query_results&query_showname=Friends&subsec=prog

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Ooh thanks, I'll check that out.

Meanwhile, you are right about that smile, but is he Chandler?

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Good question. I guess we'll see in 801 if they'll pose like that. Mind you, he had a nice smile when he smiled at Joey in 705 before Joey picked up his "camera"...

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I'm still hoping that Janice will emerge from hiding to reveal she has photographed the entire proceedings...

Otherwise known as the Father...

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She would have to show up at the reception in a disguise, though, as I don't think he would be smiling so happily if he recognized her in the crowd. :)

Haha! Immaculate conception perhaps? With Rachel as the Virgin Mary? Something doesn't add up here... :)

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Ah - now we know who Cousin Maureen really was...

More like maculate conception after too many non-virgin Margaritas!

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Lol! Wasn't she a bit skinny though? BTW, you can also hear Maggie Wheeler's real voice on "Jack & Jill". I just watched her last night. She had this really dark voice, so I had to look twice to make sure it was actually her.

LOL!! I hope it was, but I don't want to see it in a flashback! Maybe Joey seduced her by singing a serenade to her..

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Yes, but she'll put on weight as she rips the rubber mask off.

What's "Jack & Jill"?

Does that mean you don't want to see it, or you want to see it but not in a flashback?

That's would be nice, but given Rachel's history (see 104 "TOW George Stephanopoulos", 207 "TOW Ross Finds Out", 523-601 "TOW Vegas", and 720 "TOW Rachel's Big Kiss") I'm going for the binge scenario.

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Because...?

Well, it's not from the nursery rhyme, but it's a rather famous American "dramedy", or drama if you will, about Jack (a girl) who falls in love with Jill (a boy). It aired on the WB in the States, but it was cancelled in June after a couple of seasons. Jack was played by Amanda Peet, who played Jimmy The Tulip's biggest fan in The Whole Nine Yards.

It means that I wouldn't mind seeing what led up to the conception in a flashback, but not the thing itself.

And that's why a totally different approach would be much funnier. :)

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Because that's what you sometimes see in movies when they switch actors, especially if a sex change is involved.

Oh. Maggie Wheeler isn't credited for "Jack & Jill" in my May 2001 copy of the IMDb. Could she have been in one of the last few episodes?

I see that the names come from Jacqueline Barrett & David Jillefsky.

Ah - well it is still a family show... :)

Good point. :)

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Oh, I see. :) I remember Drew Barrymore lost a lot of weight when she jumped off the airplane in Charlie's Angels and pulled off her LL Cool J mask...

Well, she isn't listed there now either, but it was her.

Sometimes it doesn't look that way, though. :)

TT.

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There you go, then!

It's very strange, because the IMDb does list uncredited appearances.

He-he, you're *still* browned off about S7-20? ;)

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Weird, I can take another look at my tape to make sure, but it was her.

Not really, I was just thinking about all the "inappropriate hints" we've had over the years. :)

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Yes, please take another look.

Oh yes?

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It is her, but I'm afraid I don't have the credits for the episode to see whether she is in fact listed there.

120, 215, 218, 317, 623 etc.

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Can you see other credits for that episode in the IMDb?

Please expand. :)

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I have found out that she appears in episode 8 in season 2 of Jack & Jill.

Oh, c'mon, you know what I mean... :) The sink in 120, the juice box in 215, the ballpark and the fight in the bathroom in 218, the hair in 317, the talker in 623...

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That would be 208 "The Big Bounce", which first aired in the USA on March 7th, guest starring Jeremy Garrett as Russell James.

Oh, *those* sort of inappropriate hints! ;)

What's the hair in 317?

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That would be the one, yes.

The tag scene. Gross.

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In that case it's very strange that Jeremy Garrett gets a mention in the IMDb, but not Maggie Wheeler.

Oh, of course! My forgetfulness shows how little that worries me.

The show has always been full of innuendi. For example, the first five episodes alone contain the following eight little gems...

       Chandler's mother on his private phone.
       Monica ejaculates when Paul can't perform.
       Monica sleeping with a hanger in her mouth.
       Ross looking good when he stands erect.
       The distance between thumb & finger tips.
       Ross telling Joey all about omnipotence.
       Phoebe assuming the position for Joey.
       Ross using the gentle laundry cycle.

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On Sat, 11 Aug 2001 02:07:51 BST, Tennant Stuart wrote:

Yep. It's strange that they haven't added her role yet.

I'm surprised the Americans allow it at 8 p.m. when they are so careful with bad language on other shows. :)

Ewww... Disgusting. I didn't understand all of these when I watched the episodes for the first time.

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That's because to the innocent, all these things are pure. :)

I knew you wouldn't appreciate a full innuendo list...

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On Tue, 14 Aug 2001 16:57:30 BST, Tennant Stuart wrote:

Yep. As for the bad language, no wonder they're shocked when they see European TV-shows. :)

You mean you have one??? On the contrary, Tennant, I'd like that one. ;)

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Oh, I know - British TV doesn't even bleep out the Oedipal noun any more.

No, I considered that the first five episodes were sufficient to make my point. One of these days I mean to compile proper lists of all sorts of things - physical comedy, sibling love & hate, debating society, lesbian moments, foreshadowings, private people, intelligence tests, metascenes, watching TV, one of the guys, gay hinting, seating arrangements, feats of strength, movie mentions, celebrities, places, etc - since there is much that an SQL routine cannot find by searching through the transcripts.

Indeed? So "Ewww... Disgusting" indicates pleasure?

Well if you like, you can make a start by listing your favourites, complete with episode numbers, references, DVD times, sample dialogue, that sort of thing; plus any of the other categories if you like.

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On 17 Aug 2001 03:23:32 GMT, [email] (Appy50rider) wrote:

They air the new episodes at 10.35 p.m here, but then again, they also show the reruns (no lines or scenes cut) at 5 p.m...

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Well at least Monica got to say "Lucky Bastard" to the doomed lobster last night, when S7-07 aired on British network TV. When it was shown on a subscription channel last February, she said it at first airing, but then it was censored for the three repeat showings.

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On Thu, 16 Aug 2001 11:56:39 BST, Tennant Stuart wrote:

It's the same thing here. The f-word was accidentally not bleeped out on BB in the USA a couple of weeks ago, and people were shocked. (It was the headline on numerous internet sites...) If they wanted to bleep out all the bad language we had on our BB, I don't think there would be much dialogue left.

Yep, but that's going to take a lot of work! I hope you make it, though. I mean, I've been having my own little Friends-marathon this summer, and it took forever to get through all the episodes, and I was just watching them, not taking notes like you would need to do. :)

Hehe, no, I just wondered how many of them I actually "understood".

I think I'll be more lady-like and stay away from that. Sorry. :)

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My big sister is a huge Jerry Springer fan, and she's annoyed that the late-night special editions still bleep all of the rude words out. Not that she particularly wants them you understand, it's just that all those long beeping noises overlapping each other become wearing.

I know, and I keep thinking of new categories too, any of which would mean going back to the beginning again. But, one day...

Ah.

Oh.

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I think it's rather ridiculous to bleep it out, because when they do that, it becomes even more obvious. Besides, we all know what they're saying anyway, so I don't really see the point in doing it.

It'll be worth it!

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I know.

ISTM the show is sufficiently offensive for any swearing to be irrelevant.

I must admit a list of 'Clever Joey' examples would be nice.

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Tell me about it! The show is so incredibly outrageous, but at the same time you cannot help but laugh at the sad, sad people who are on the show...

That would be a must! You should post that one here when you're done, as some sort of final proof.

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I hate it when some smug bastard sits quietly in the middle, while two women fight over which one he loves, not knowing the answer is neither.

Okay, we can work on these lists between Seasons Eight & Nine.

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Lol, yes. I discussed Jerry Springer and Ricki Lake with an American clergyman once, and he thought it was rather odd that everybody thought the losers on these shows were so fantastic. :)

Hehe, yep. And after season nine, we'll start making lists with all the R+P and J+R hints... ;)

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Hehe.

Absolutely, it would wise to wait until they're safely married.

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On Fri, 24 Aug 2001 17:34:38 BST, Tennant Stuart wrote:

Exactly. As a special wedding gift, perhaps? ;)

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So as not to tempt Fate.

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On Thu, 30 Aug 2001 01:01:36 BST, Tennant Stuart wrote:

Hehe, IC. It's probably the best thing to do.

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Indeed. :)

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wut do u mean??!! "Tennant Stuart" wrote in message news:[email]...

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Dear Nisha, since you put your reply "wut do u mean??!!" at the top of my posting, I do not know which of my two paragraphs you were referring to.

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Lol

I know!!!!

Of course, your list does not include Monica's nipples in that scene... ;)

YES!!! We saw this as huge foreshadowing, but an unconfirmed report says that at the filming, JA asked the audience to vote if Ross or Joey was funnier.

I didn't notice anything different.

Yes, we know three of them, any idea about Papasifakis?

A onesie? Is that what you guys call it? We say a romper suit.

Anyway, it's all thanks to Chandler Buffay.

She was very antsy, wasn't she?

Yeah, at first I thought she was saying the dress was no longer new.

Yeah, but it meant we didn't hear his speech, or Chandler's come to that.

Still the backwards ceremony was good fun.

And Rachel whispering at them that they're Greek Orthodox.

Rachel didn't brush her off, she made Monica concentrate on what she must do.

That's what I thought, but when we debated it, I lost. The crunch argument is that Ross was so defensive of his little sister that he would not have tried to hand Chandler a copy of her vows.

I liked the bit where he whispered about the rings.

Yep. :)

Ah - the thing is, Joey was lost without his script!

Oh, I did, she was lovely.

Yes, although Monica evaded the question. She did not actually deny she was having a baby, and she can know she's pregnant without taking a test.

Yes, this was beautiful acting. JA did *not* look worried, she looked like she was trying not to look worried. The clear implication given was that Rachel is pregnant, but it could be some other worry if needs be.

I reckon that this was a lie, Rachel just doesn't take out the trash. She was trying to deflect Phoebe from realising that the pregnancy test was hers.

I think that this was due to a rewrite where Chandler hid in his office instead of at the gym, so they had to make it a Saturday. Recall that S7-17 was shown very late, so it was all in the can before the finale was written.

Yes, although "vest & pants" means underwear in England!

It was just to show how drunk Richard was.

Not me, I want several more seasons yet.

Yes, but then it had to be, that was the point. Monica made the sacrifice for Chandler. We reckon that the dress was hired, which explains a lot.

I know. Never mind.

Yes, "We have a baby?" could be an evasion. But as I say in the review, it all depends on which actress falls pregnant. If none do, it could be anybody.

Oh yes! :)

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Well, I'm sure it was Courteney's decision to dress like that.

Yep, but gets us nowhere with the identity of the father.

Okay.

Ah. I had to go to a lot of trouble to miss all the promos on E4.

Not with a 56k modem I haven't.

Oh, okay! :)

Well, that's what I thought at first. If you can give me a good reason why Ross acted like he did, then I'd be delighted to switch again! :)

Absolutely, that's an excellent point.

I hope so, but it's been known for the writers to argue about the need to include some plot point, but then it gets edited out later on.

That's a fair point sweetie, but I'm just trying to account for the inconsistency in the dates. Sadly this error can only reinforce any tendency of the writers to reduce extraneous background details.

Instead of a smart businessman with his jacket off, the image the phrase conjures up Homer Simpson watching TV at home while Marge is out. It gets even worse if you should mention his suspenders, for now we are into the territory of women's sexy underwear...

Courteney Cox has hinted at 16 seasons, so I'll go along with that. :)

Indeed? Well, Tina Nellis said it was quite possible in this country, for at her Christmas Ball most lads & quite a few girls rented their outfits from a place in Cambridge, and it didn't cost more than about �50 for a few days, though she warns it would be a little more for a wedding dress. I must add that Tina had a gown made by a dressmaker.

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Me, all the other male viewers, and Jennifer Aniston... ;)

I'm afraid not. You sound just like me arguing with Mardi, who was getting absolutely nowhere until Priya found a hole in my logic, and I instantly switched sides, much to Mardi's wry chagrin. :)

Okay, but what you have to do is consider Ross's motivation, and ask if he would have done anything that would have so hurt his little sister.

YW!

Well, at least we get the full version on DVD now.

Not really, but only because it bothers me less than it bothers the critics who claimed that that the tiniest inconsistency makes Friends a complete load of rubbish that must be cancelled immediately.

Tee-hee.

She's merely repeating what everyone assumes, but money talks.

Zucker has said that he wants the show to continue.

Oh yes????

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Delurking for a minute. I think the dates, Monica's on May 15th (a Tuesday) and Megan's on July 25th (a Wednesday) were deliberate choices. The writers could have easily looked at a calendar to see these were not a Saturday...which is the most popular day. Instead, I think these two dates probably have some significance to someone associated with the show. They could be someones anniversary, children's birthdays, spouse's birthday. Who knows. Since people were bound to check the date of Moncia's wedding, this was careless. But that is the only explanation I can think of to explain this away.

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Nice to see you, Anne! :)

The dates could well have been deliberate in-jokes, and at the time a Wednesday did not seem an issue, but in the many months that elapsed (the episode was shown very late) the new script mandated a change.

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Yes, with a bit of luck it will start a rivalry... ;)

BOC, beginning with Tennant & Priya...

T: Monica's speech is so beautiful that Chandler dispenses with his, T: simply telling her how much he loves her - whereupon they kiss too T: early which throws Joey so off track, they complete the proceedings T: almost in reverse! At last Joey declares them to be husband & wife, T: Chandler & Monica kiss again, and everyone applauds.

P: Chandler dispenses his speech because Joey lets it slip to Monica that P: Chandler took off from the wedding. Monica isn't too happy on finding P: this out. So he just wanted to reassure her. Monica's speech was good P: but Chandler's kiss was amazing hehe.

T: That would be another reason (two reasons need not be in conflict) but T: according to the plot of 721 "TOW the Vows", Chandler had a copy of T: Monica's vows, and Joey was going to let him go first, leaving her in T: the lurch. When Monica went first, Chandler *had* to throw his away.

Tennant & Mardi...

T: When Chandler abandoned his prepared vows, don't forget that he T: had stolen a copy from Monica, but Joey let her go first!

M: I don't think we're meant to believe he was actually planning to use M: them. I think that was a joke both on his part and the writers.

T: Could be, Mardi, could be - but it did fit with the established plot.

M: Oh, but I guess that depends on how you interpreted the established M: plot. When I saw the vows episode, I never really believed Chandler M: planned to plagiarize Monica's vows for the wedding. I thought, M: rather, that he was blowing off steam--he was having such a hard M: time writing the vows, and he knew "funny" was off-limits. I assumed M: he would be writing something new between then and the wedding. :)

T: Okay, but you are assuming that the story in S7-21 was not really as T: it seemed, and then you are having to assume that the story in S7-24 T: was not really as it seemed, to account for it. On the other hand, T: it's simpler just to let the story in S7-24 follow the story in T: S7-21. :)

M: But what I've described is the way 7.21 seemed to me. And in 7.24, M: it seemed to me that Chandler decided to forego his written vows not M: because they were Monica's with a few words changed, but because he M: thought of something more powerful to say and--necessary because of M: Joey's little slip-up--reassuring to Monica. So for me the story in M: 7.24 *does* follow that in 7.21--it's just not exactly the same as M: your interpretation. Rashomon again. ;)

T: Well, I'm talking about what we saw actually happen on the screen, and T: the words that the characters actually said - while you're talking T: about their thoughts, their intentions, their beliefs, and their hidden T: motivations.

M: Okay, I have a counter-example for you. In another post, you maintained M: that you're sure Monica didn't mean her "you don't get to win anymore" M: line. Are you not talking about her "thoughts, intentions, and beliefs"? M: Using your reasoning above, we must believe that Monica meant the words M: she actually said--unless there's an episode in season 8 where she says, M: "Hey, Chandler, remember when I told you "you don't get to win anymore"? M: Well, I didn't really mean that. And Chandler might say, "Oh, that's M: good. And since we're confessing things, I almost plagiarized your vows M: at the last minute, but I didn't, because Joey let you go first."

T: The difference there is that Monica's words conflicted with her actions.

M: You made an interpretation of Monica's intentions--one that differed M: from what she said. I happen to agree with it. Similarly, I can't M: believe that Chandler ever seriously contemplated using Monica's vows. M: Imagine how hurt she would have been. Chandler would surely realize that M: she wouldn't take it well, and doesn't everything we know about Chandler M: support the idea that he wouldn't knowingly hurt her? Some people have M: speculated that Chandler will turn out to be the father of Rachel's M: baby. I can't imagine either Chandler or Rachel doing something that M: would be so hurtful to Monica. Sure, recycling her vows would not have M: had the same magnitude, but Monica would have been stung, and I think M: Chandler would know that. And even if he didn't realize, surely Ross's M: "You can't *do* that!" would have given him a clue. Joey's retort, "If M: he goes first he can!" was nothing but a punchline, as far as I'm M: concerned.

T: Chandler's actions did not conflict with his words.

Tennant & Priya...

P: Everyone has already said all that I wanted to say about this. Still, P: if chandler was actually stupid enough to try and read her vows, would P: Ross be more stupid and step forward and hand him the same vows that P: his sister has just said. Don't think so! :)

T: Ooh, that's an excellent point. Ross was being *very* protective of his T: little sister in the finale, so he definitely would not have done. Thanks T: a lot - Mardi must be kicking herself now that she didn't think of it! :)

Tennant & Mardi...

M: GAH!!!!

M: Neither of us is going to convince the other on this point. You're not M: changing your mind, and I'm not changing mine. I think the Monica M: example parallels the Chandler one, and you don't. I think the idea of M: using Monica's vows was a joke--in the tag (small-T, thank goodness) no M: less, you see it as uncontrovertable truth. I give up. Not on my point M: of view, but on any attempt to convince you of its merit.

T: Ah well you see, just to prove you wrong again, I *have* changed my mind, T: but not because of anything you have said, but Priya, who found a hole in T: the argument where there was a conflict. Ross was being *very* protective T: of his little sister in the finale, so he definitely would not have given T: Chandler the same vows that Monica had just said... :)

M: Okay, well, I bow to Priya's ability to change your mind. And I concede M: my utter and complete failure to make so much as a dent. . . .

T: Sorry Mardi, it's nothing personal, as I'm sure you realise. But Priya T: did what I pointed out that you hadn't done - she found an action that T: conflicted with what the characters said. I am never intransigent.

Are you still confused?

That's right, they just read the spoilers.

That's right, he's hinting at ten seasons at least!

I KNOWWWW!!!!! :)

Would this be from the article "'Friends' Pregnancy Will Change Everything" by Brill Bundy in the Jul 20 Zap2it TV News column?

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You're just jealous because men's nipples are boring. :)

Me too.

Could be, Sammi, could be - but it did fit with the established plot.

At the time yes, but then in S7-24 he rejected his prepared vows.

That's fair enough.

Well of course, we do have to separate the wheat from the chaff, and I would say that the broken glass was obviously a joke, while seven times depends on if you believe Monica failed to call him on it. But we know for sure that Chandler *did* steal Monica's vows, because of how Ross & Joey reacted - unless you believe he wrote them himself & lied about it.

He read what Chandler had at the end of S7-21. But anyway, by this point in the discussion I'd agreed that the stolen vows had been discarded.

That's an excellent point Sammi, you're quite right. :)

You are so welcome, Sammi.

We haven't heard from Claire since March 18th. I miss her. :(

Yes, she said "This is absolutely appalling. Thanks for the warning. I will avoid ever seeing this episode like the plague. These writers are really getting sick." That was her penultimate message.

That's right, I read that article too. It looks like JA is being offered the chance to be the star of the show, while LK will be sadly missed. The thinking is that the cast will not be offered any more money, but since they are settling down, they'll be reluctant to lose such a nice little earner so close to home when their film careers are luke warm at best.

Both, although with the nice weather we've been having, I've been out & about quite a lot, so I've often gone to bed as early as 2am.

It's very peculiar, since you get other newsgroups okay. But as I am posting your side of the discussion for you, you are still out there!

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This is true... :)

Maybe, but plenty of time passed for Ross to talk Chandler round.

Maybe, but to say Chandler did not steal her vows directly contradicts the way Joey & Ross reacted; whereas if he *did* do it then there is no conflict with later episodes. Thus it is pointless to so dismiss it.

Oh for sure, some of them were so detailed I had to print them out to go through them on the train, in the bath, or up an apple tree.

I half-think she was looking for an excuse to go, for she made a huge fuss about Monica getting the Porsche. It's a shame that we could never get her to watch Ross being so great with Phoebe & her bicycle.

Indeed, but David Crane is *very* upbeat.

You should have seen the beautiful sunrise we had on Sunday, just as I was going to bed. I kept wanting to phone people up to tell them.

Oh! Are you about to make a reappearance???

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it.

Jumping in here - if Chandler *had* gone through with stealing Monica's vows, they wouldn't have made much sense, would they?

"Chandler, for so long I.I wondered if I would ever find my prince, my soul mate. Then three years ago, at another wedding I turned to a friend for comfort. And instead, I found everything that I'd ever been looking for my whole life. And now.here we are.with our future before us.and I only want to spend it with you, my prince, my soul mate, my friend. Unless you don't want to."

Maybe Monica re-wrote her vows afterwards?

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You are forgetting that Chandler said he changed the names.

We can assume that was not part of her prepared vows.

Maybe, but what's wrong with...

"Monica, for so long I wondered if I would ever find my princess, my soul-mate. Then three years ago at another wedding, a friend came to me for comfort. And instead, I found everything that I'd ever been looking for my whole life. And now, here we are, with our future before us - and I only want to spend it with you, my princess, my soul-mate, my friend."

..and note that Monica didn't even say "my brother's wedding", which would have made the transposition a little more awkward for Chandler.

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Appy50riderCandiGrrl

Excellent point! Thank you very much!!

Sammi

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I can't remember him being topless once.

Okay.

Yes, I'm an ape, as are you.

Thanks.

Events?

Vampires are not ones to admire sunrises...

Well, until then you could join in the discussion of early S7 as the episodes come up on British network TV, currently at S7-04.

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Tennant StuartTennant Stuart

Sammi wrote:

Gosh. I do know that Daphne & Roz have never been topless.

Ooh I didn't like the original movie, so I haven't seen the remake, even though I like quite a few Tim Burton films - but I did like the original book by Pierre Boule (it was serialised in a magazine).

Oh, I didn't know that. Does this invalidate his words?

There's a nice sequence in "Interview with the Vampire", which takes us unto the present day with a montage of Louis going to the cinema to see the dawn, and I always wonder he felt cheated by "Tequila Sunrise".

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Paul HyettTennant Stuart

On Thu, 2 Aug 2001, Tennant Stuart stated this considered view. Waking from my doze, I hastily scrawled -

Roz topless... mmmmmmmm!

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I know!

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Appy50riderTennant Stuart

You boys are disgusting!! I bet Tennant could cross-reference all the times that nipples and/or breasts have been mentioned in his reviews!

Sammi

Tennant StuartAppy50rider

In article , [email] (Appy50rider) wrote:

I've only mentioned nipples once, in my review of S7-22. I have mentioned breasts in 6 reviews, but only where they were essential to the plot. :)

The "Friends" transcripts mention nipples 30 times, and breasts 55 times.

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Appy50riderTennant Stuart
Yeah, right...   ;-)

What about if you leave out all of Chandler's nipple references?

Sammi

Tennant StuartAppy50rider

In article , [email] (Appy50rider) wrote:

Is that all references by Chandler to nipples, or references by anyone to any of his nipples, or all references to his third nipple?

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Appy50riderTennant Stuart

Leave out all references to Chandler's nipples, and Chandler's referencees to his own and to other mens nipples.

This is getting confusing! ;-)

Sammi

Tennant StuartAppy50rider

In article , [email] (Appy50rider) wrote:

Hehe. What about other people's references to other men's nipples?

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Appy50riderTennant Stuart

Those are ok to leave in. I just recall Chandler as being the most nipple-centric character. Of course the absolute best reference was his non-verbal double- take to Monica's sudden *enhancement* during the metaphorical tunnel scene!

Sammi

Tennant StuartAppy50rider

In article , [email] (Appy50rider) wrote:

That leaves 16 nipular references (out of the original 30).

Oh yes, but I think that was actually Perry's reaction.

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Appy50riderTennant Stuart
ok ;-)

It would fit for either MP or Chandler!

Sammi

Tennant StuartAppy50rider

In article , [email] (Appy50rider) wrote:

BOC - that's why they left it in, like when he called Joey "Matt".

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In article , [email] (Appy50rider) wrote:

Check out the second scene in 304 "TOW the Metaphorical Tunnel". When Joey enters, Matthew Perry says "Hey, Matt", so we can assume Chandler said "Hey, man". It's at 2:07 on the DVD.

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Appy50riderTennant Stuart

Hmm, never noticed that. Thanks, I'll have a look.

Sammi

Seran PerryAppy50rider

Oh no don't encourage him!

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Appy50riderSeran Perry

Hey Seran, it's been a while!

I know I shouldn't but it's his favorite topic!

Sammi

Seran PerryAppy50rider

Heya! Yeah I've been in Switzerland for the past two weeks!

What? Nipples AND breasts?

Seran Perry-Gungan Jedi Knight Proud memeber of Chandlerholics Anonymous ~...there's only one person I would lay down my life for, that's my mother, and even then I'd be reluctant...~
Appy50riderSeran Perry

Lucky you!

Well, it does depend on who they are attached to.

Sammi

Seran PerryAppy50rider

Aren't I just :) It was really lovely! climbing mountains a lot. Got concussion on one of them when I looked up!

Ah yes of course :)

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Appy50riderSeran Perry

Ouch! Are you ok now?

hee hee...  ;_)

Sammi

Seran PerryAppy50rider

yeah, just got the same old headache again now :)

I wonder what a third nipple looks like...

Seran Perry-Gungan Jedi Knight Proud memeber of Chandlerholics Anonymous ~...there's only one person I would lay down my life for, that's my mother, and even then I'd be reluctant...~
Appy50riderSeran Perry

sorry!

kind of like a nubbin.

Sammi

Seran PerryAppy50rider

s'okay :) hopefully it'll go soon

that's no help :)

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Tennant StuartSeran Perry

In article , [email] (Seran Perry) wrote:

Awww... Have you tried pinching the flap of skin between your right thumb & forefinger with your left hand?

The same as the other two I guess, a sow's teats all look the same.

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Seran PerryTennant Stuart

I did actually. and it worked! how does it work?

I suppose so. Where would it go...?

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Tennant StuartSeran Perry

In article , [email] (Seran Perry) wrote:

I have no idea. It didn't work for Phoebe.

Along what is known as the Mammalian Line.

This refers to two arcs crossing the torso from the genitals to the forelegs, on which the teats of all mammals occur. Thus in humans, a third nipple would form below one of the others, or near an armpit.

In the James Bond film "The Man with the Golden Gun", Scaramanga's third nipple lay between his left nipple & his neck, which was incorrect. The same applies to the triple-breasted whore in "Total Recall".

Any number of teats may form on any species, but the typical amount is twice the usual litter size (which is of course one in humans).

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Seran PerryTennant Stuart

works for me. weird...

oh right, okay.

Well you learn a new thing everyday. Thanks in advance if it comes up in biology.

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Tennant StuartSeran Perry

In article , [email] (Seran Perry) wrote:

You are so lucky! :)

YW

YWIA

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Appy50riderTennant Stuart

Didn't I tell you it was his favorite subject?

Sammi ;-)

Seran PerryAppy50rider

yeah you did... I really shouldn't've encouraged him...

Seran Perry-Gungan Jedi Knight Proud memeber of Chandlerholics Anonymous ~...there's only one person I would lay down my life for, that's my mother, and even then I'd be reluctant...~
Seran PerryTennant Stuart

I know :)

say what?

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Tennant StuartSeran Perry

In article , [email] (Seran Perry) wrote:

You're Welcome In Advance

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Seran PerryTennant Stuart

oh okay :) Eek! I've got my biology results on thursday! wish me luck :)

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In article , [email] (Seran Perry) wrote:

Luck!!!

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Seran PerryTennant Stuart

Ta! Oh and Good luck to anyone else getting their results this week too!

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Paul HyettTennant Stuart

On Sat, 4 Aug 2001, Tennant Stuart stated this considered view. Waking from my doze, I hastily scrawled -

Did you ever see the 5th season episode 'Halloween' when she wore that dominatrix outfit? :)

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In article , Paul Hyett wrote:

Oh yes, that was the one where she became pregnant, wasn't it?

And one of the guests was played by Mrs.Grammer.

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On Sat, 4 Aug 2001, Tennant Stuart stated this considered view. Waking from my doze, I hastily scrawled -

She told Frasier she was pregnant, I think it actually happened a while before! :)

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In article , Paul Hyett wrote:

Lol, that's what I meant. :)

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In article , Paul Hyett wrote:

Funnily enough, it's just been on, and indeed Roz was quite a sight.

But that was all the fun there was, for the show was particularly dire, all based on a series of misunderstandings that could only work because people talked in a strained manner, such as describing an eyelash in an eye as a "condition" which is then thought to mean a pregnancy, and so many more examples I can't even bear to remember.

I've said before that "Frasier" has really gone downhill of late, but this was a gruesome example of how the rot had set in earlier on with old-fashioned plots - or as "Friends" said in its second episode...

CHANDLER: Oh, I think this is the episode of "Three's Company" where there's some kind of misunderstanding.

PHOEBE: Then I've already seen this one! (She turns off the TV)

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Paul HyettTennant Stuart

On Thu, 16 Aug 2001, Tennant Stuart stated this considered view. Waking from my doze, I hastily scrawled -

Mmmmmmmmmmmm!

I didn't think the episode was too bad actually.

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In article , Paul Hyett wrote:

You were just gawking at the Story Of 'O', weren't you? :)

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"Tennant Stuart" wrote in message news:[email]...

Tennant, I'm with you on this one. Since I did see the episode in question <g>, I feel qualified to assent. :)

I really hate that kind of strained "misunderstanding" device in sitcoms. As Chandler would note, it is SO _Three's Company_! ;)

Mardi

Tennant StuartMardi

In article , "Mardi" wrote:

Yay! :)

And it's not the only one - if not door-swinging farces, many of the later episodes were misunderstandings with tortured language as the characters laboured to avoid saying words like "he" or "she".

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"Tennant Stuart" wrote in message news:[email]...

:)

sitcoms.

Ugh--yes! These are all reasons I stopped watching. This wasn't the intelligent show it purported to be.

Mardi

Tennant StuartMardi

In article , "Mardi" wrote:

Absolutely. Don't get me wrong - the odd 'misunderstanding' episode, and the occasional door-swinging farce, would have been okay, even enjoyable, but not as the majority of the episodes.

In fact, 222 "TOW Two Parties" is a farce, and most enjoyable, (the only bit I don't like is the unfarcical sequence where Rachel listens to her parents slag each other off), but that type of comedy was more of a one-off for them to do.

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MardiTennant Stuart

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Not my favorite episode, but still handled better than on _Frasier_.

Mardi

Tennant StuartMardi

In article , "Mardi" wrote:

And you can bet that on "Frasier", Sandra & Leonard would have met.

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MardiTennant Stuart

"Tennant Stuart" wrote in message news:[email]...

For sure. And there would have been endless shots of Frasier and Niles doing that annoying run of theirs where they bend their arms, flap their hands out to either side at shoulder level, and lurch one way before running in the opposite direction. Bleah. :)

Mardi

Tennant StuartMardi

In article , "Mardi" wrote:

And yet Kelsey Grammer has signed up for Seasons 9/10/11 at twice the salary of the cast of "Friends", making him the highest paid TV actor.

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"Tennant Stuart" wrote in message news:[email]...

Good thing I wasn't drinking anything when I read that, because would've done a spit take. Incredible.

Did you happen to catch anything about how peeved Kelsey Grammer was when the show did not get _Seinfeld_'s time slot (Thursdays at 9 pm)? He was seemingly pretty sure they'd get it. Hee hee.

Mardi

Tennant StuartMardi

In article , "Mardi" wrote:

Yep. Mind you, that's not twice the combined cast of "Friends", just twice any single one of them. Still not to be sneezed at of course.

I didn't know that, but Jerry Seinfeld still holds the record, if you factor in the other non-acting payments he received.

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MardiTennant Stuart

"Tennant Stuart" wrote in message news:[email]...

Oh, I didn't think you meant 2 x the combined salaries of the entire cast (whough KG would probably consider that justified!).

when

Also, I think that for _Mad About You_, Helen Hunt and Paul Reiser went up to $1 million/episode after HH won her oscar for _As Good As it Gets_. IIRC, her agent negotiated the $1 million for her, and Reiser had a clause in his contract ensuring that he'd get as much as she did.

Mardi

Tennant StuartMardi

In article , "Mardi" wrote:

I didn't think you would think that, but upon reading it that's what I seemed to be saying.

That's right. And of course Schwimmer earns more than his colleagues.

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Mardi wrote in message ... | |"Tennant Stuart" wrote in message |news:[email]...

| |Not my favorite episode, but still handled better than on _Frasier_.

I like that one, but I feel sorry for Monica :(

MardiCandiGrrl

"CandiGrrl" wrote in message news:9m1cr9$gqk$[email]...

I know--being the hostess is so important to her, and everyone wants to be at the other party.

Mardi

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| |I know--being the hostess is so important to her, and everyone wants to be |at the other party.

Yeah... *and* she gets hit in the head with a ball, *and* her flan got mushed :(

Tennant StuartCandiGrrl

In article , "CandiGrrl" wrote:

But at least she looked unbelievably cute... :)

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Yeah, alright, I'll give you that one.

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In article , [email] (CandiGrrl) wrote:

Thanks. Best thing about DVD is being able to freeze the split second after the ball has hit her, when she gives Chandler The Look... :)

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Tennant Stuart wrote in message news:...

Haha! I love The Look!

Tennant StuartCandiGrrl

In article , [email] (CandiGrrl) wrote:

It's a cracker!

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What's your favourite time that Monica has given someone The Look?

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In article , [email] (CandiGrrl) wrote:

That was it, in 222 "TOW Two Parties"; though Monica discovering that Rachel spilled the beans about Ethan to Chandler, the drunk realising that she was a teenager when she gave birth to Ross, Chandler's dinky beard, and Chandler describing Elizabeth as cute all come close.

However, her look after Phoebe had betrayed her was very different.

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Tennant StuartMardi

In article , "Mardi" wrote:

If you look closely as Phoebe catches Leonard (20:17 on the DVD) you can see one couple stayed at Monica's party long after the others had left.

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"Tennant Stuart" wrote in message news:[email]...

be

And yet somehow Monica didn't adopt them as her new best friends. :)

Mardi

Tennant StuartMardi

In article , "Mardi" wrote:

Awwww...

I'm just wondering which mother Chandler is going to snog.

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"Tennant Stuart" wrote in message news:[email]...

can

You mean which friend's mother? <shudder> Not his mother-in-law, I hope!

Mardi

Tennant StuartMardi

In article , "Mardi" wrote:

Yep. :)

It could be, she really likes him...

However, since Ross snogged Chandler's mother, and Joey snogged Rachel's mother, then Chandler ought to snog Phoebe's mother, to keep up the mix.

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MardiTennant Stuart

"Tennant Stuart" wrote in message news:[email]...

Ewwwwww. . . .. .

That would also have the benefit of being the least shudderworthy, since Phoebe Sr. is still pretty much a stranger to Phoebe and the group.

Mardi

Tennant StuartMardi

In article , "Mardi" wrote:

Well, her son snogged his mother...

And she was very cute in Close Encounters... (sigh)

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MardiTennant Stuart

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Well, two snogs don't make a. . . . never mind, I give up. ;)

Rachel's

mix.

Hee hee. For the longest time after seeing that film, my brother and I made our mother crazy by shaping our mashed potatoes as Richard Dreyfuss does. . . . And of course, doing the Close Encounters tune. :)

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Tennant StuartMardi

In article , "Mardi" wrote:

Hehe.

ROTFL! Did you guys oik the back garden through the window?

I know, it was so annoying that Pheebs omitted the last note...

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Nah, we just stuck with the potatoes. :)

Bad Pheebs! ;)

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Tennant StuartMardi

In article , "Mardi" wrote:

Did you striate the flanks with your fork?

Probably due to copyright reasons (5 notes is probably the minimum).

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Ummmm. . . . I think so. :)

Ah. That could be it. I hate copyright reasons.

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Tennant StuartMardi

In article , "Mardi" wrote:

And plant little broccoli bushes around the base?

Me too.

Apparently there are whole chunks missing from films because of it.

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MardiTennant Stuart

"Tennant Stuart" wrote in message news:[email]...

No, but I did have a habit of pretending broccoli stalks were tiny little trees on my plate (completely unrelated to _Close Encounters_). :)

:(

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Tennant StuartMardi

In article , "Mardi" wrote:

Hehe. Did you make your olds crouch low in their seats so that you could dramatically raise up a large serving plate from your lap?

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"Tennant Stuart" wrote in message news:[email]...

little

Hee hee. Nope, didn't take it that far. ;)

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Tennant StuartMardi

In article , "Mardi" wrote:

Ah, so you weren't *that* obsessed by Close Encounters, then. :)

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Just enough to distress the olds, I guess. :)

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Tennant StuartMardi

In article , "Mardi" wrote:

Ooh, you're making me think about Teri Garr again... ;)

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Paul HyettTennant Stuart

On Sat, 1 Sep 2001, Tennant Stuart stated this considered view. Waking from my doze, I hastily scrawled -

I prefer Teri Hatcher. :)

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Tennant StuartPaul Hyett

In article , Paul Hyett wrote:

She wasn't in Close Encounters.

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Paul HyettTennant Stuart

On Mon, 3 Sep 2001, Tennant Stuart stated this considered view. Waking from my doze, I hastily scrawled -

That's not the kind of 'close encounters' I'm thinking of though! :)

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In article , Paul Hyett wrote:

Hehe.

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In article , "CandiGrrl" wrote:

I know what you mean. I'd have been quite happy to push the cap until I hear it click just to please her, and I'd have lapped up her flan.

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Appy50riderTennant Stuart

I'm pretty sure that DHP has never exposed himself to us.

I think I liked the movie more several years after it's original release, when the Sci Fi channel began to do marathons with the whole movie series. I like the campiness of it, and the ending of the original. Of course, it all looks so cheesy now, but that's part of the fun, like with the original Star Trek series.

I'm not sure, but it did serve one purpose for the show- that was to get the critics to stop talking about the show as if it was dying. Also, he has to be enthusiastic about this season, or there is absolutely NO chance the cast will even consider signing on again.

Hm, I'd forgotten that part. Kirstin Dunst has done well for herself since then.

Sammi

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In article , [email] (Appy50rider) wrote:

Maybe Maris has, but she wasn't visible...

They're repeating the original Star Trek on a new digital channel over here, and the improved picture quality makes it look quite good.

Good point.

Oh, I thought she was quite fabulous, subverting the Innocence Of Childhood myth with her voracious appetite. It's a shame there never was a movie with her, Natalie Portman, and Christina Ricci as girls.

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Appy50riderTennant Stuart

She may have turned to the side and became invisible.

The Next Generation was the best of the bunch, though, IMO. Now they've got a new series in the works with Scott Bakula (from Quantum Leap) that will be a prequel to the original series.

Thanks :-)

Too late now!

Sammi

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In article , [email] (Appy50rider) wrote:

Exactly.

That's right, set 150 years earlier.

YW

I know... :(

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In article , [email] (Appy50rider) wrote:

Yep. :(

Still, it's been fun, though...

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In article , [email] (Appy50rider) wrote:

Oh yes!!! :)

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