http://www.reuters.com/newsArticle.jhtml?type=televisionNews&storyID=8363640
Interesting to note that FG out-drew both new episodes of the Simpsons. That could be a one time thing, being the first new ep in 3 years.
The ratings are in
May 3, 2005, 5:44 AM ET31 posts by 10 posters
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Can't you just post the numbers?
...Sean.
Do you know how to point and click?
Do you know how to cut and paste?
Seriously, if one can cut & paste a link, why not just cut & paste the pertinent excerpt from the article, just as a matter of courtesy, so people don't have to wait for a browser to load and then subsequently load a page full of useless graphics and ads for the sake of two sentences of useful text?
...Sean.
Technically, that's plagiarism. Just click the damn link. If it's loading too slow, try getting DSL.
On Thu, 5 May 2005 13:51:33 -0400, [email] (Chris �) wrote:
A brief quote accompanied by a reference to the original source is fair use.
Copying the article and saying you wrote it is plagiarism.
Click the fucking link!
[email] (Chris �) wrote:
...which obviously was your position all along. I just corrected a factual faux pas.
"CheetoDust" wrote in message news:[email]...
Super welcome back for 'Family Guy'
Returning adult cartoon pulls a 5.7 in 18-49s
Fox has struggled to program any new hit comedies over the past few
years. When the network said last year that it was bringing back a long-dead
show from several seasons back that had similarly failed to entice viewers,
there was a feeling that Fox had gotten desperate.
Turns out it got smart. In its Sunday return, "Family Guy," which
left Fox in 2002 but became a cult hit on Cartoon Network and DVD, posted a
5.7 rating among viewers 18-49, according to Nielsen overnights. It placed
No. 2 in its timeslot behind ABC's formidable "Desperate Housewives."
"Family Guy" reruns have been a cable hit on Adult Swim among teens
and 18-34s. And the show generated huge sales on DVD. But a hit in the cable
universe, where it only takes a few million to make a show a success, is
much different than a hit on broadcast.
It was unclear whether "Family Guy" would draw any viewers who
weren't already watching on cable.
Fox will therefore be thrilled with "Family Guy's" 5.7, especially
in a season in which the first-place network is struggling to hold onto its
narrow 0.1 season-to-date lead in 18-49s, where it has averaged a 4.1.
"Guy" is the first new Fox comedy in years to perform well without
an "American Idol" lead-in. "Wanda at Large," "Life on a Stick," "Method and
Red" and countless other sitcoms have all cycled off the air after limited
runs.
"Family Guy" also served two other purposes for Fox on Sunday
night. It boosted the official series premiere of "American Dad" to a 4.6
among 18-49s, and helped Fox finish No. 2 for the night behind ABC.
Perhaps most impressive of all, it built on its "Simpsons" lead-in.
It's been a long time since a Fox comedy has done that.
ABC led the night with a 7.4 average rating and a 19 share. Fox
finished second at 4.5/12, CBS third at 3.0/8, NBC fourth at 2.8/7 and the
WB fifth at 1.2/3.
ABC led at 7 p.m. with a 3.3 average for the first hour of an
extended "Extreme Makeover: Home Edition." Fox was second that hour with a
3.0 average for "King of the Hill" (2.7) and "Malcolm in the Middle" (3.3)
and NBC third with a 2.0 for "Dateline."
ABC led again at 8 p.m. with "Home Edition" jumping to a 6.3
average during its second hour. Fox was second with a 5.4 average for an
hour of "The Simpsons" and CBS third with a 3.0 average for "Cold Case."
ABC led once again at 9 p.m., this time with an 11.4 average for
"Desperate Housewives." Fox was second with its 5.2 average for "Family Guy"
(5.7) and "American Dad" (4.6) and NBC third with a 3.4 average for "Law &
Order: Criminal Intent."
ABC completed the sweep at 10 p.m. with an 8.5 average for "Grey's
Anatomy." CBS was second with a 3.9 average for the second hour of its movie
"Riding the Bus with My Sister" and NBC third with a 3.4 for "Crossing
Jordan."
ABC also led the night among households, averaging a 10.7 rating
and a 17 share. CBS was second at 9.5/15, NBC third at 6.0/10, Fox fourth at
5.3/9 and the WB fifth at 1.7/3.On Tue, 3 May 2005 05:44:27 -0400, [email] (Chris �) wrote:
...and the article's writer tried to convince us that the Simpsons gave Family Guy a boost. The only reason I withstood the last 15 minutes of The Simpsons was that I was waiting for Family Guy. (No, I didn't even attempt to watch the first 45 minutes of Simpsons.) Sheesh... The Simpsons died years ago, why do people keep propping it up? This "fat Bart" episode was more heavy-handed than a dozen After School Specials rolled into one.
And American Dad... what did they do? Dredge up an old All In the Family story line? 'The wife wants a career'--ooh, great television sitcom writing--for the 70s. Geez, that was painful. Here's a clue: Archie Bunker wasn't funny 35 years ago, and age has only made the concept seem really out of touch.
In between, the Family Guy crew proved that they still have what it takes. The opening gag was perfect. The rest of the show was at the same high level of what came before. The only weak point being the trailer for Passion of the Christ 2--it was virtually identical to the Ghandi 2 gag Weird Al Yankovic did in UHF.
If you think All in the Family wasn't funny in its time, then all other critism from you can be taken with a pound of salt. :-)
NuQ wrote:
Alright, even if I grant you that All in the Family was funny _in_its_time_, I see a huge parallel between it and American Dad. AD's writing seemed terribly dated as I was watching it Sunday.
When you do the kind of stuff AD is trying to do, you run a huge risk of sounding preachy. All in the Family crossed that line. Very, very often. "This is goodthink, that is badthink." I felt like AD crossed the line, too, but on an issue that's not even relevant today.
I'm reminded of what Cartoon Network said to the producers of Father of the Pride-- "Use jokes from 2004, not 1962". To American Dad I say, write like it's 2005, not 1970.
I just watched it. You're right, the Dad is bascially like Archie.
Agree. It is very preachy. That's why I don't really like it. It's choke full of Seth's politcal views. Although, I did laugh out loud a few times in this episode.
I think that is Seth's point. Conservative views are bigoted & old fashion. Conservatives are so backwards that the flag-wavers like the Dad feel threatened if the wife makes more money or even *has* a job.
Seth can have his views and make a point now and then, but when it's the whole show it grows old very quickly.
NuQ wrote:
See, there's my point. You've made a mental connection between the show and real life--which is what the show wants you to do--but there really isn't one. Or if there is still anyone who thinks like that, they're more likely living the the "Mobile Home Disaster" life than living in Northern Virginia, where you *need* that second income, believe me.
The show is really about an anachronistic character, but the political bent keeps making the fiction seem to want to be about real life.
I think that sums it up perfectly.
On Tue, 03 May 2005 21:45:26 -0400, Kimba W. Lion wrote:
You mean like when Alan Alda took over behind the camera on M*A*S*H?
The Ghost of General Lee wrote:
Oh, god, yes.
On Wed, 04 May 2005 07:59:57 -0400, Kimba W. Lion scribed into the ether:
That whooshing sound is the joke going straight over your head.
In article , Kimba W. Lion wrote:
Is it the writing that's dated or the attitude they're lampooning which is dated?
There are still sexist, homophobic people.
The Eagle Forum may not exist but Phyllis Schlafly still does.
I didn't even watch the 2 Simpsons episodes (the Mets were on ESPN). I figured I'd get to see them when they're repeated in June.
And I'm a Simpsons fan!
On Tue, 03 May 2005 15:57:13 -0400, Kimba W. Lion wrote:
Uh, were you even *alive* when AitF ran, or are you just basing this on watching reruns on TV Land and trying to apply current standards to them?
Stifle, meathead!;-)
The Ghost of General Lee wrote:
I was in high school and college when AitF polluted the airwaves for the first time. It was painful then.
But I apologize for the 1970 reference. The show started in 1971--SO much more modern!
I was a kid when it was on, and even I got it. (The Sammy Davis Jr. ep is my fave).
However, today it's dated. Archie Bunker is the kind of ignorant conservative stereotype which audiences today cannot and will not accept.
""Chris �"" wrote in message news:[email]...
True! Too many people like him now.
Meathead's liberal rantings are also quite dated.
Things have changed since the early 1970's.
On Wed, 4 May 2005 18:21:32 -0400, [email] (Chris �) wrote:
Yes, like it's not just the "hippies" who are against "the war" this time.
They're still hippies, just middle aged.
""Chris �"" wrote in message news:[email]...
That's what we get for living in such a pussified society. That German guy didn't put up with any of that pansy-ass anti-war shit. What was his name? Adolph something...
Coors?
[yawn]
On Tue, 3 May 2005 05:44:27 -0400, [email] (Chris �) wrote:
I'd sacrifice The Simpsons to ensure Family Guy has a nice, long run.
Don't get me wrong, The Simpsons has had some great moments, but it's been on the decline for a long time.
"John Yossarian" wrote in message news:[email]...
Agreed, but "The Heartbroke Kid" was one of the best episodes ever, and "Don't Fear the Roofer" was reasonably good. The show appears to be on the rebound.
I like FG, but IMHO The Simpsons is still a slightly better show.