http://www.variety.com/article/VR1117975769.html?categoryid=2821&cs=1
"Family Guy" creator Seth MacFarlane touched a nerve Friday when he elicited perhaps the angriest response among the 4,000 attendees at Friday's WGA rally at Fox Plaza. Invoking the image of the companies as schoolyard bullies, he recounted that all "Family Guy" assistants had been fired by Fox on the third day of the strike.
"Instead of negotiating, they lashed out at the little guy," MacFarlane added. "What a classy move."
In article , Sean Walsh wrote:
Uh - he's the one that walked out and shut down production on the show, which I will not be watching again (hell, that 100th special was enough to convince me of that, even before this).
In article , Anim8rFSK wrote:
So you're never watching any show ever again whose writers have participated in the strike?
In article , Thanatos wrote:
No, but Family Guy was on the bubble after that horrid horrid 100th special anyway. I'd already pulled it from the DVR menu last week.
youre talking about the clip show? all clip shows are horrid
In article , primordial-ooze wrote:
The live stuff was particularly bad.
Didn't a contract run out?
Fox fired the idiot Manatees?
South Park was right...
In article , Tony Harding wrote:
The WGA contract, yes, and they absolutely shouldn't be writing without it. But MacFarlane is management. He walked out and shut down the show voluntarily, apparently expecting Fox to keep paying everybody while he kept them from working.
The writers were already on strike, so how much production could have been going on? Plus, McFarlane is listed as a writer on many episodes and he voices many characters, so I'd say he carries a SAG card in addition to his WGA card. Producers don't carry cards, they carry $$ instead. ;)
/bit of a rant
Given the current situation in the US, I encourage all unions to push back hard, especially against Fox.
end rant/
In article , Tony Harding wrote:
Doesn't matter; as I understand it, he stepped out willingly (as Steve Carrel and Leno did). And production on an animated show goes on for months and months after the writing is finished.
I think his reasoning was that since editing is like rewriting, he wouldn't do that.
He's also the showrunner so I think he has more power/ability to shut down production; and he's hardly the only one whose shut down production. Greg Daniels over at Office did it, Tina Fey at 30 Rock, the Lost people and many others.
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What's a "showrunner" and what's a "skein" (from the article in Variety).
Looking up the definition of "force majeure", it's not clear to me how this would apply to a union/management tussle, but it's in the contracts, so that's the way it is.
"Tony Harding" wrote in message news:_Nt_i.2460$[email]...
They are both neologisms.
Thanks, do you have any definitions handy (and that doesn't mean "neologism", BTW)?
"Tony Harding" wrote in message news:x0w_i.4144$[email]...
Sorry, just having a go.
Showrunner is a writer-producer-something (aka "hyphenate").
Skein is a series.
Thanks
Well the solution is simple, get rid of the f**king unions and hire non-union people. Or just move production into Mexico. Jay ward did it.
Broadway stage-hands are apparently currently (wild-cat?) striking, and thus the NYC tourist industry's major attraction is closed-down.
It's not good; but where does it say that life has to be fair and just?
The City and its people--rich and not so rich-- will supposedly suffer substantial economic damage everyday the stages are dark.
Meanwhile: It is reported the Broadway stagehand already makes $100,000.
The solution: off-Broadway is apparently not being struck, so the media should hype the unconventional plays off Broadway in trying to persuade tourists it's good stuff..
The hotels should cut/trim their room rates for the time being, as tourists will understanably be cancelling.
Occupancy in midtown is so high, there may not be any economic incentive to do so. Plus I don't see how reduced hotel rates would entice folks from Des Moines to visit Manhattan after their show's performance has been canceled?
PS: If you live in the NYC area, work in Manhattan and make $100K/year, you're middle class at best (seriously).
besides a now dark broadway, attractions of manhattan to bring 'em all the way from des moines
1 statute of liberty of course 2. world trade center vacant landscape 3. trump's hair compared to dyed squirrel on display at trump plaza hotel 4. a 3 or 4 daily newspaper city (most places only have 1 or 2), TIMES, POST, DAILY NEWS, WALL ST JOURNAL 5. the proverbial con man's brooklyn bridge 6. art museums 7. empire state bldg 8. eating from garbage can (i saw a guy actually doing such, as i waited for a bus 3 years ago) 9. cars 10. trucks
in other words, nyc is sort of boring, and is too damne expensive
People actually visit cities to see their newspapers? :)
Totally grossed me out when I first saw that back in the 80's.
No argument here, Robert.
"Tony Harding" wrote in message news:vQt_i.2471$[email]...
I'm surprised to discover that the WSJ has a Metro section. Also, I can't believe he forgot to include the Bugle!
thats pretty dumb
"Tony Harding" wrote in message news:J3n_i.1335$[email]...
Well you could move to Queens or move to New Jersey.
Can't, already live in NJ
In article , Tony Harding wrote:
I'm so terribly sorry.
LOL, you've been listening to too many comedians. Most of NJ is pretty nice to *very* nice, lots of shoreline on the Atlantic as well as a lot of very upscale towns/neighborhoods, e.g., Short Hills, Upper Saddle River. The Peapack area is famous for the its fox hunts for the very rich, e.g. Jackie Kennedy. I live in Hoboken, birthplace of Frank Sinatra and baseball, Google it sometime.
In article , Tony Harding wrote:
The thing is, Kelly Ripa is from there, and we'll never forgive you.
"Anim8rFSK" wrote in message news:[email]...
Kelly Ripa was hot when she used to eat.
In article , "Rick" wrote:
Maybe until she speaks.
Mea culpa. OTOH, bimbos flourish everywhere.
[email] wrote:
How very Edwardian Age of you, seriously.
[email] wrote:
That's not news, but some of them aren't so bad. ;)
its not THAT bad here, jeez
Middle class is hardly bad, it's just that $100k/year seemed like a lot of money when a lot of us were growing up. Check out housing prices in Manhattan vs. the midwest, FL, sC, etc. <not putting any areas down here, BTW>
In article , Ken Layton wrote:
Is that why they set up in Mexico?
Ken Layton wrote:
With some interesting results at times.
Brian
Si
Tony Harding wrote:
I just watched the first season of Rocky and Bullwinkle and Friends DVD. Some of the continuity problems were unintentionally amusing.
Brian
And look what happened to him!