hey everyone! I am very happy to hear about the latest rumor about family guy coming back july 11 then to primetime. My reason I am posting right now is because after seeing this website, I feel sooo bad for the sky 1 customers. I mean, it seriously makes me mad, I wouldn't even watch it if the US pulled something like this! It seems so pointless, is it even funny still???? someone who watches please explain to me what is happening!! arghh
FYI... the website I was looking at is right here ---http://www.xbollox.com/family.htm
"Craig Coope" wrote in message news:CE5Z6.9585$[email]...
channel 4 have the rights actually for terrestrial-and they even beat sky by showing it at......about 1 o clock in the afternoon. i hate to think how much that must be cut.
I can`t believe they cut the bit out where Peter licks his nipple trying to embarass Chris. The blokes in the editing room must piss themselves laughing and then just say "right let`s get rid of that bit then".
And if you thought the Sky One cuts were bad, it's surprising you can still follow the storyline with the amount that Channel 4 deem suitable.
Thanks for mentioning the site, btw. Now, let's hope that either Sky One decide to show the whole series at a more sensible time - hopefully in the place of the umpteenth repeats South Park, or the laugh-free Gary and Mike.
Or that a more liberal broadcaster picks up the series, like Play UK (currently showing Duckman at 8.30pm and Larry Sanders as early as 9pm - both totally uncut) or Channel 5 (who'll seem to show anything that might get them more than 6 viewers).
I never saw gary and mike it looked pretty funny on the commercials... i dont even think it is on anymore though..... i saw one commercial for it over here i guess it never did very well
correction..they DID the PJ's, show got cancelled after it went UPN (really bad network here in the states, and it got cancelled from there). Which shows that Fox sucks at trying to get shows that live up the simpsons, yeah they did hit the pay dirt with king of the hill and futurama, but when you got shows coming from the guy who did beavis and butthead and matt groening, you better have winners.
The way they treat the Family guy like their summer whore I hope fox loses them to comedy central, it won't happen, but it's a nice thought, after all, you can say Shit on their network and show animated boobs. Plus, you know they'll air the show more than once a week.
"Sweet Zombie Jesus" wrote in message news:9h5gdp$ccm5t$[email]...
Actually, The PJ's went to WB. The stupid thing is, WB courted the show when Fox was unsure of it, so you'd think they'd commit to make it a winner. WB did nothing with the show.....much like Mission Hill and The Oblongs. WB had some really funny prime time animation but never gave it a chance to find an audience. Shows don't become The Simpsons overnight.....give it a few seasons. Unfortunately, networks don't have that kind of foresight these days, they want instant gratification.
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Honestly I thought The PJ's was a very funny show, from a writing perspective and visually
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You don't want that. If Comedy Central gets Family Guy, it's a syndication package....no new episodes. It'll be relegated to late Sunday nights w/ The Critic and Duckman. Comedy Central doesn't give budgets to do a traditional fully animated like Family Guy. There's nothing wrong with that....they've proved low budget can be very successful with South Park. If you want new Family Guy, just be sure to support the show NOW...get your friends and family to watch it, and write letters to Fox telling them how much you love it.
Don't forget "Baby Blues." It sat on the shelf for close to two years, before the WB Network finally decided to burn it off during the summer. When the original eight Varga Studio episodes delivered surprisingly strong demographic ratings, an additional thirteen installments were ordered. Combined with the five Rough Draft Studios episodes that have been in the can for ages, there apparently are eighteen completed episodes waiting to be aired.
The WB Network did not cancel "The PJs." They attempted to renew the series, but Warner Bros. (the distributor) decided that the production costs were too high to justify continued production.
It isn't just the WB Network; NBC tossed away a combined twenty episodes of "God, the Devil and Bob" and "Sammy." The former was mediocre. In the case of the latter, the real travesty was that two episodes were actually allowed to air.
ABC's "Clerks: The Animated Series" was also scrapped after two airings, but Kevin "the Bridge Burner" Smith basically asked for it. (All six episodes are available on VHS and DVD.)
I didn't care for "Mission Hill," but "The Oblongs" had potential. (In my opinion, the gags worked approximately 50% of the time.)
Many of the funniest scenes (offered on the now defunct official website) never appeared on the program, and I suspect that they were contained within the five episodes that didn't air. (not to be confused with the first episode, which aired three times in one night)
Yeah, both those shows were not only flat out UGLY, but flat out unfunny. G, tD &B had potential, but it almost seems like they watered it down in fear of retaliation....well, they got retaliation anyway...*shrug* I saw that first episode of Sammy almost a year before it actually aired (and I think that was officiallly the 3rd episode)...I can't believe that was ever greenlit. I mean, yeah David Spade is a celeb...but he doesn't have any sort of following. All his movies flop!!! The show was techincally cancelled while in mid-production..before it made it on the air since test screenings HATED IT. I don't know why they bothered airing it in...what, August? ..when they did.
Yeah...again....why did such a conservative network go ahead with this? Doesn't make any sense. At the same time, since they did....c'mon, it was only 6 episodes....a lot of work went into them, and they're paid for...just friggin' air them!!!
On a Family Guy related note, bitter grapes are apparent during the 6th episode commentary track where they go "FUCKING Family Guy's still on the air and we got cancelled...piece of shit...Emmy nominated SHIT". Bitter mofos. hehe.
Mission Hill was one of those shows (like many) that have sort of a so-so introduction episode, but the characters seem to find themselves after a few episodes....I really liked the characters and the design was very cool. Same with Oblongs...they showed the episodes out of order..it was something like 1, 3, 13, 8...something like that...and the later ones were MUCH funnier. They should have tried a new time slot and gone ahead w/ a second season.
I actually liked the appearance of "God, the Devil and Bob." It came across as a polished variation of the Klasky Csupo style.
"Sammy," on the other hand, was ugly.
"God, the Devil and Bob" occasionally had its moments, but there was nothing to write home about. (at least in the four episodes that aired in the United States) If nothing else, the voice cast was talented.
"Sammy" was simply wretched. It had some good voice actors, but they were squandered. More importantly, both the writing and David Spade's "acting" (If the comedian is going to play two different characters, get one who can do different voices!) were absolutely pathetic.
It's my understanding that it was never intended to be controversial.
If the religious zealots who blasted the show had actually stopped to watch an episode, they'd have realized that it was fairly harmless. (and even pro-morality)
"Family Guy" is infinitely more offensive, but I haven't heard of any protests or affiliate pre-emptions. (For the record, I'm not criticizing "Family Guy"; it's one of my favorite television series.)
Out of curiosity, how/why did you see it ahead of time? Was this some sort of court-mandated punishment?
I've seen worse... but not much worse.
Yes, I read that it scored one of the lowest focus group ratings in the history of NBC.
Based upon the two episodes that aired, the series was actually fairly tame. It also was predictable, derivative and roughly as coherent as "Rocko's Modern Life" and similar children's cartoons.
They probably would have, if not for the fact that Kevin Smith (who obviously knows very little about the television industry) decided to alienate himself from the network.
His comments (from before the show debuted) were both immature...
"I can't believe we got f***** hard by the mouse twice in the span of a year. F****** suits, man. I don't know why I bother."
"You go bottomless amongst penned up anal rapists like these f****, sooner or later you're going to get [violated] against your will."
..and premature:
"May 31 pretty much insures the show's failure, in my book. Very seldomly does a show launched in the summer get picked up."
1999 - "Who Wants to Be a Millionaire"
1998 - "Whose Line Is it Anyway?" (the same slot in which ABC was planning to air "Clerks")
ABC may have been willing to give the series a chance, (as a Super Bowl advertisement would seem to indicate) but Kevin Smith apparently enjoys shooting himself in the foot. It was rather surprising that they bothered airing his program at all.
I disliked the visual style. To each their own...
Failing that, they could have aired the remaining five episodes. No series with a theme song by They Might Be Giants deserves to be treated in this manner.
Eh, they both had warbly Klasky-esque elements.....I don't mind Klasky style if it's in context w/ a shows content. I love it in Duckman, because the characters and worldview is so completely absurd. The style matches the characters and humor, I'm all for weirdness. Sammy had no reason to have such an offputting style. GtD&B, to me, looked like a mix of Rugrats and Beavis & Butthead....and the animation and timing was worse than either.
LOL...yeah, my thoughts exactly....Sammy was basically a *slightly* whinier James. Very pathetic consdering Dan Castelaneta, Trey Parker, or Seth MacFarlane basically have conversations w/ themselves 3 or 4 times over.
The show totally has a pro-family and pro-religious POV, and the zealots totally F'd up by bashing it. However, I still think it could have pushed the theological humor a bit more....but I guess Dogma took care of that.
Yeah, Family Guy's been able to duck under the radar for some reason....but I think that's because its "offensiveness" is in the vein of Archie Bunker, and people got used to that over 20 years ago.
I was working on a different Sony animated show at the time, and was curious to see how their show was coming out. I also saw the pilot, which was basically just James explaining who he is introducing his friends and family....nothing witty, nothing funny. Amazing they ordered a season based on that pilot.
In prime time? Maybe Fish Police or Capitol Critters....lol
You'd think they'd focus test an animatic...waiting till you have a half season fully animated is retarded.
Hey now...Rocko's Modern Life was fucking great! :) It still cracks me up that Nickelodeon didn't catch all the sexual ineuendo until like...3 years later. lol
Yeah, he doesn't seem to have much tact. I agree with most of his rants....but sometimes you just gotta shut your mouth and comprimise.
I wish they hadn't recorded those expositional lyrics over the Oblongs theme..it was much cooler as an instrumental
I wasn't thinking strictly of animation. In that context, I'm hard-pressed to name anything worse.
I missed "Fish Police." (by blinking) It's a close call, but "Capitol Critters" wasn't quite as bad as "Sammy." (in my opinion)
It was well done, but that isn't my type of humor.
And on this issue, he was dead wrong. ABC was giving him the slot following "The Drew Carey Show," (in which "Whose Line Is it Anyway?" had a successful summer launch) along with strong promotion.
Even if a series *is* treated unfairly by its network, and fails as a direct result, oh well; these things happen. Smith's unprofessional public reaction (based upon his antiquated notion that summer is nothing but a dumping ground) not only persuaded Disney to wash their hands of "Clerks," it also discouraged other companies from working with him on future projects.
Wow, you took the words right out of my mouth! I'd been listening to the instrumental version (which was used for the proper closing credits sequence, something that's sadly absent from most network television series, these days) since last year. (ripped from a promotional disc)
Six days prior to the show's debut, I learned that lyrics had been added. Disappointingly, they were not written or performed by They Might Be Giants.
When I heard this version for the first time, I was even more disappointed. It eventually grew on me somewhat, but it pales in comparison to the original recording.
At least there's "Malcolm in the Middle." (which I realize you don't enjoy) TMBG probably won't be recording any new incidental music for the third season, but "Boss of Me" will remain unbastardized.
I'm particularly interested in learning how/why you've heard this version! :)
*drumroll* ....it was on The Oblongs Website. :) ...and I know people who worked on the show, and I was like "is it just me or do those lyrics seem REALLY slapped on?" ....yup, they were.
I wish that Warner Bros. had included the names of the author and singer in the closing credits. They Might Be Giants probably didn't wish to receive credit for the entire song.
Quick nitpick: though I think that the entire Clerks cartoon was a bad idea and that a *broadcast* network is the worst place for anything by Kevin Smith (wasn't Jay really boring without the constant stream of vulgarity?*), both of those shows were proven hits in England before coming over here in their Americanized forms. Granted, the two audiences are different, but they weren't starting out from scratch. Of course, Clerks was also a proven hit, but as a single, independent film that would never be shown uncut on ABC.
Despite that, I agree with your overall point, and while I love the films of Kevin Smith, he's not perfect by a longshot. :)
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Even though it's not on a broadcast network, what does everyone think of Daria? As a much more polished spinoff of Beavis & Butthead, I've always really enjoyed the show, despite being neither female nor teenaged. It seems to be an animated show, shown in prime time, that has lasted for several years now successfully without broad changes in its direction or attitude. Granted, I don't tend to laugh as much as I do with The Family Guy or The Simpsons, but I think it's a really well done and well written show.
--Shi Bao Nai
*This reminds me of a sigline I saw once. "Madonna without cleavage is like Marty Feldman without eyeballs." I guess the same applies to Jay and Silent Bob.
That's true, but "South Park" became a cable hit during the summer of 1997. With comparable promotion, a broadcast network is realistically capable of similar accomplishments; they merely choose to reserve the vast majority of their original episodic programming for the regular season.
"Seinfeld" (which certainly was unproven and unconventional) was also launched as a summer series. It ended its nine-season run as the highest rated show on television.
The Critic. The show was on ABC and then on FOX. I loved this show, but it never had anytime to grow. From what I heard the show was too expensive to make, and it wasn't getting enough viewers for the amount of money they were using for it. The same thing happened to Comedy Central's "That's my Bush!" If anyone cares, the critic is on Comedy Central at 1:00 in the morning early early monday mornings. l *~Anita*~ http://vanceypantsdegeneres.tripod.com/index.html http://anitasdailyshowpage.tripod.com/index.html