(OT) Depressed

Maybe it's because of the way this holiday is celebrated in certain corners, with chocolate eggs and sugar bunnies and not a thought as to what happened a long time ago and what it's meant since then. And I'm not even religious.

Maybe it's because I'm on my 8th straight week of work with no end in sight and haven't spent any time in the sun in a month of Sundays. If I become allergic to garlic also just shoot me.

Maybe it's because the mutant pigs are off from school all the coming week and the wife has declared that this is a great time to start the spring cleaning seeing as she will be working late all week and I can look forward to the sleep deprivation hallucinations kicking in about Thursday. Oh well, the mutant pigs put their fingerprints all over the walls, they can bloody well wash them off.

Maybe it's because I'm suffering from Daria withdrawl as the last new episode I saw was almost completely unwatchable due to a character that I can only dream of being taken outside and shot repeatedly until that fingernail-on-the-blackboard voice is finally out of my head. Happiness is a belt fed weapon.

Maybe it's because nary a mind-altering chemical has passed my mouth or lungs in such a long time that the edges of reality are becoming sharper and sharper and I'm out of brainband-aids. Maybe the Sihk(sp?) owned quick stop store will be open this a.m. and I'll treat myself to a shot or two or three of scotch. Most likely not.

But to tell the truth and you have to at least to yourself because if you don't you'll find yourself on the path to madness it's because I've spent part of the night ordering stuff I think I want over the net to make up for the fact that my wife and kids spaced that yesterday was my birthday and I got nothing and I'm feeling really sorry for myself and hating myself for feeling this way.

The only thing I know for sure is that it can't get any worse, it can only get better as the only direction I can dig in from here is up.

Asking for your forgiveness for this pathetic rant coming to you from the center of the earth.

Jon Armstrong The Space Ranger Graveyard gives one a unique outlook on life. A dark one.

In article , [email] wrote:

Ah yes! I understand the feeling--from a somewhat different perspective. Beguiled by the warm Tennessee spring day, I don't feel like doing much of anything. Just sitting outside and luxuriating in the warmth of the bright sunshine, the sensation of balmy breezes caressing the skin, imparts a delicious languor. I decided to pull the Corvair out and see if it'll start. ("That's not a car, it's a time machine.") Put the top down, ("Bonus points for convertibles.") take it out on the road and revel in 164 cubic-inches of 35- year-old turbo-supercharged torque. A guy on the Interstate ("Wear scarf to prevent convertible hair" -- forget it, there are some things I just won't do.) in a Volvo, after maneuvering around to view all sides, gave me the "Thumbs-up" sign. One of the advantages of driving a "Corvair-sation" piece. The best such incident I remember, one I never tire of boring people with, some years ago, cruising through the streets of Boone, NC, passing through heading home from the Blue Ridge Parkway. Boone is, of course, a college town (Appalachian State University) and so there were college kids standing on the street, hanging out. On one corner a gaggle of girls, a flock of females, whatever, were standing. One of them noticed the car, nudged one of her friends and pointed. Her friend took one look, half-doubled over and SCREAMED! Made all the restoration work I'd done on it worth while. The only thing better than the self-satisfaction of a job well done is approbation from the distaff side.

I think I'll go outside and catch some rays now. Yeah, life is good. Don't let anyone tell you differently.

Bob

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<snip snip snip, muahahaha!>

<Singing> From where I'm sittin' with my Miller Lite, liiiiiife iiiiis goooood!

Sorry. I live WAY too close to Milwaukee and all those breweries.

-Mindy

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let

LOL.

Actually, my Easter wasn't all that bad. Got ready for church to "[address]". Found myself grinning at the scenes I like best. Mom came into room and actually got into a little of the ep. Sunday Mass was nice -- the sermon was especially interesting. Actually sang along to the hymns, which was fun considering that (a.) the songs were nice and cheery and (b.) I like to sing. Had a little breakfast at this one place that served up good flour tortillas but that also had some of the greasiest carne guisada I've ever tasted (the potato & egg was good though). Got a chance to change (was wearing an uncomfortably warm black jacket, a beige top, and some black dress pants) into jeans and a shirt. Went to my dad's mom's (am NOT going to call her "grandma" -- she didn't raise Dad) and saw a bunch of relatives. Not as much drinking going on as usual, but then again we came/went rather early. Found out one of my cousins is getting married. Saw a whole bunch of kids playing; made me feel very old. Quickly ate some barbecue, rice, beans, and cucumber slices, then reached for my "take with food" pain medication (stomach problems). Ate watermelon for the first time in a long time. Got home, quickly dressed into pajamas. Got VCR ready for the VH-1 "Duran Duran Behind the Music". Recorded and squealed incessantly. Flipped channels for about an hour. Came back for the replay of the DD "BTM" and squealed again. Took medication, laid down, took out Walkman and listened to music for an hour in the dark of my room, put Walkman down, and fell asleep.

Was VERY good, now that I think about it. Even though I had to fight the mosquitoes over at my dad's mom's, and even though it was sunnier than I'd have liked it to be (only like sunshine when I'm in the relative safety of indoor habitation).

deena lissa who got a very nice letter from her darling yesterday!

"Let's kill the NME! Yes! And the Melody Maker too! Strangle 'em both!" Jane: Dear Daria, Lousy Traitor. Daria: Dear Jane, I know what you are, but what am I?

That's one of the things I miss most about America - eating out. It's so cheap & convenient that eating out for breakfast is a viable option, we would all pile into a local cafe for a late breakfast, or else send someone out to the corner shop to bring back bagels and giant paper cups full of delicious coffee. Although it is possible to find good coffee in the UK these days, you have to choose your outlet with care. All the burger places sell diabolical coffee for instance, and the prices are always crippling and no cafe would dream of giving you a free refill.

I do that, music sounds much better when you're lying in bed in the dark. (though I wouldn't be listening to Duran Duran (have you seen the film "Barbarella" BTW?), I'm more likely to be listening to Buffalo Tom or Bjork.)(Actually I have the video of a track from Wedding Album somewhere, I liked that track, I forget what it was called, it had a girl in a silly long white hat).

-Shez.

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Wow. I didn't know it was that bad. Although I should've suspected after I could but choke down the price of the Burger King breakfast I had one time, as well as the meal itself (only ended up eating less than 1/2 the thing before I gave up and threw it away -- greasy egg, interesting taste on the sausage (like it was cooked to medium rare or something), KETCHUP (eeew, am NOT going there), overly greasy hash browns -- only thing I really liked was the orange juice). I think if I stayed in England long enough and were relegated to eating just Burger King breakfasts, I'd be as thin as Alli...no, wait, no way that could happen....

But bagels are good. DAMN good. I missed them. They're so great to eat as a substitute for regular bread. And American coffee is good too. Although I did see some Starbucks in London...YAY! I feel so at home there. Hope the brews and treats are just as good there. Except -- I didn't notice if they had one of my favorites, blueberry muffins. Hm....

(a.) Yes, I've seen "Barbarella". Forced it down once. Only saw it because of the character Dr. Duran Duran. Would've never touched it otherwise. (b.) Bjork! How cuuuute. What was the name of the song she contributed to the "Tank Girl" soundtrack? That's my favorite from her, song-wise and video-wise. (c.) You're talking about "Ordinary World". I kinda liked the hat. The sleeves on the dress were kinda freaky though. The video as a whole is beautiful. Then again I'm biased. (d.) C'mon, it's OK to like DD these days...plenty of males are admitting to being Duranies...I'm even getting my darling into them...it's safe now! :)

deena lissa ...just, "deena lissa"

"No, no, no, don't believe anything you hear. Get the real shit from me." -- Simon LeBon, "Behind the Music" (VH-1) Jane: Dear Daria, Lousy Traitor. Daria: Dear Jane, I know what you are, but what am I?

In article , deena lissa wrote:

Thinking of movies not to touch: "Nude on the Moon". My flatmate collects B-movies, and one day he subjected a group of us to this... curiousity. It's not even "So bad it's good" type stuff, it's just BAD...

"Look at this rock!... It is solid gold." "But what if it turns to worthless dust?" "That may happen..."

Army of Me. From "Post".

One of these days I'm going to have to hunt down the Tank Girl Movie Soundtrack, because the it's _much_ better than the film.

What are Starbucks? They were mentioned on Caroline in the City today too.

I wonder why the band adopted his name?

I didn't know Bjork was considered cute. There seem to be many amongst the unwashed masses / tabloid press here who consider her to be insane or something, though I didn't realise this (not being a reader of the tabloid press, or mixer with normal people) until I read her biography, which has quotes like:

    "She's an idiot. My whole family hates her. She plays rubbish songs.
    She can't sing. She can't dance." -- Dean (9)

    "She's stupid. Not exactly stupid but the way she goes on, it's as if
    she's abnormal." -- Janine (10)

I like the Human Behaviour video best, it's really weird, like where she's sat holding a knife and fork and a giant moth falls onto her plate, and she looks at us with an expression that says "yum yum". In fact she's produced an astonishing number of amazing videos, all very different, like the one where she dances on the back of a truck, or dismembers teddy bears in a padded cell (or something like that), or becomes an anime character. However the tracks I like best as videos aren't my favourites as music.

-Shez.

Shez wrote in message ...

A chain of coffee shops. They even have (or had) a concession in the Pentagon.

URL: http://www.starbucks.com/

Showing off, Martin.

On Tue, 13 Apr 1999 22:16:45 +0100, "Martin Sylvester" wrote:

Starbucks is no doubt the chain being referred to in The Daria Diaries map of Lawndale. (Re: the former alt.lawndale.com and Lawndale Youth Coffeehouse... "Coming soon: Overpriced Seattle coffee".)

Martin (to send E-mail, remove the "nospam" from my E-mail address) ---- Quinn: "When they got nervous, they'd drink cocoa." Helen: "Now, sweetie, there's nothing to worry about." (door slams) "Looters!" ---- Outpost Daria: Your Online Database for All Things Daria! http://systech.simplenet.com/daria/

In article , "Martin Sylvester" wrote:

They seem to be setting up in the UK under a name something like "Seattle Coffee House". I believe these are Starbucks by any other name.

In article , "Martin Sylvester" wrote:

That is ... unspeakably terrifying ...

Already answered. Chain of coffee houses started in Seattle some number of years ago (saw the original when I first went to Seattle!). It may be a little pricey, but I like the atmosphere and besides, over here they're located next to Barnes & Nobles so I get to go browse the computer books section, the "Biography" section, and the periodicals. Yay!

According to Nick Rhodes and John Taylor, it was because they were sitting at home one evening watching the movie broadcasted on the BBC, when they both took notice of the name of the Dr. Duran Duran character. John, who was sitting with his mom, turned and asked, "Hey, do you think Duran Duran is a good name?" and she said, "No, it's absolute rubbish," to which he thought, "Yeah, THIS is a good band name...."

Simon LeBon once commented that he originally thought it sounded like an "estate agents, but now it sounds like nothing at all" (1983).

While I do realize the way I expressed it was a little too embarrasingly Quinn, I do think she is cute. She's an elfin spirit, with sparkling eyes and an ethereal innocence. Plus she dances around happily without even caring how she looks, which is a sign of feeling truly free.

There seem to be many

Those the real ages of the commentators? 9? 10? Figures. I first got to know her when I was a bit more mature, around 13 or so (when MTV's "120 Minutes" showed a Sugarcubes video). Ever since then I've smiled whenever I hear the name "Bjork" being mentioned.

Oh, "Human Behaviour" was the first solo one I saw from her. It was so cool. I liked the end especially, where she's in the bear's belly and is singing from it. And...the one where she's singing from on back of a truck is "Big Time Sensuality", which is a funky track. With "Army of Me" I at least got a chance to hear it on the radio before seeing the video, which meant I liked the track already even though I'd not seen the video yet, but over here there are few chances to hear artists like Bjork on the radio (heck, they hardly even play Duran Duran on the radio and never really have, not even 15 years ago or so) that one has to rely on videos and MTV to get a chance to hear from such type of artist.

deena lissa pardon me if above post doesn't make sense...I'm beyond sleepy at this point

"No, no, no, don't believe anything you hear. Get the real shit from me." -- Simon LeBon, "Behind the Music" (VH-1) Jane: Dear Daria, Lousy Traitor. Daria: Dear Jane, I know what you are, but what am I?

She doesn't *have* to care how she looks, she always looks alright. If she looked really bad she wouldn't do it. I like your description of her, btw, fits very well... FWIW, whilst I'm not a Bjork fan (it's not really the sort of music I like) I like her voice. I can't think of anyone else who sings like that. Isn't there two little dots over the "o" (which would be "�"...), incidentally? Or am I going even more mad...? <g>

In article , "endless, nameless" wrote:

I mean not only in a physical sense. I mean, complete image-wise. She doesn't need image consultants to fill a void of knowing who she "is". She just goes out there and exists as she is.

Thanks. It's been cultivated from really liking what I've heard from her since '92 or so. Never, though, thought that my late-night musings while watching the Lewis Largent-hosted "120 Minutes" would end up being expressed outside of the self.

She has got a really cool voice, which is a big reason why I like what I've heard from her. I hate the wispy voices of a lot of female singers (Susanna Hoffs and the lead singer from Sixpence None the Richer come to mind). Bjork has a STRONG voice.

No, you're right, the "o" does have an umulat (sp?) over it. I just don't happen to have it on my keyboard so I don't type it in. Same goes for accentuation in Spanish-languaged e-mails I send out. I don't do it, purely because it isn't on the keyboard. I'm lazy like that.

deena lissa who, by the way, changed her favorite movie to "Pretty in Pink" :)

"No, no, no, don't believe anything you hear. Get the real shit from me." -- Simon LeBon, "Behind the Music" (VH-1) Jane: Dear Daria, Lousy Traitor. Daria: Dear Jane, I know what you are, but what am I?

It's also quite strange, original...

But if you leave the accents off and all, the words sometimes mean different things, like "si" and "s�", and... I've forgotten... My Spanish teacher always tries to drum this into our heads, but I guess it only matters if you're taking an exam, I mean, everyone knows which word you mean by the context.... Never mind...

In article , "endless, nameless" wrote:

Another reason to like it the more. :)

You're right, but I just can't be bothered a lot of the time. I should really do that, though. But so far in the e-mails I've sent, I've managed to not have to say "yes" to anything. Just "of course" and such. You do make a good point. (...and my respect for you has just shot through the roof right now, because you're taking Spanish and I feel instantly connected to someone who is at least trying to learn the language. I found through my experiences in England that most British people seem to be able to pronounce Spanish words much better than most Anglo Americans, which is surprising and another sign that points out that I need to definitely move to England....

deena lissa "en un momento ira a comprarme una cosita para mi desayuno (mas informacion que lo quieres, verdad?)" <-- think that's correct

"No, no, no, don't believe anything you hear. Get the real shit from me." -- Simon LeBon, "Behind the Music" (VH-1) Jane: Dear Daria, Lousy Traitor. Daria: Dear Jane, I know what you are, but what am I?

deena lissa wrote:

Kind of like the umlaut in my mom's side of the family's name-- I gave up using it for things a loooong time ago... I just use ae for "a umlaut" when dealing with emails or Americans. ;-)

"Where's the umlaut on this damn keyboard???" rich.

Tiffany: "Oh, no. Wind, hair."

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"I'm afraid of Americans," as David Bowie once (no, more than once) said (no, sang...ah, gah gah dammit *g*).

I do know that while my last name doesn't involve any special characters, it does involve having to roll the final "r" and I can't roll "r"s to save my life. So I usually end up pronouncing it the way Anglos do.

"La gringa Mexicana" 'tis me.

"I don't know...where's the damn '�' on the keyboard? Have to f---ing drag out 'Character Map'..." *g*

deena lissa wants to talk like Anglos do ("want to dive into your ocean, is it free with you?" LOL)

"No, no, no, don't believe anything you hear. Get the real shit from me." -- Simon LeBon, "Behind the Music" (VH-1) Jane: Dear Daria, Lousy Traitor. Daria: Dear Jane, I know what you are, but what am I?

deena lissa wrote:

One of the benefits of having a German parent is that I know verrrry vell how to rrrrroll my rrrrrrs. (And one of the advantges of learning French at a very early age as well allows me to make some of those throat-clearing r sounds as well.)

But I sound like an Anglo anyway. ;-)

Hey, look at Erik Estrada-- the man didn't even speak a *word* of Spanish before he became a big star down there on one of the soaps. There's always hope. ;-) (Of course, his scripts were all written out phonetically, but one hopes that he eventually learned *some* Spanish.)

rich. (who doesn't habla Espanol, but kann ein biBchen Deutsch et un peu Francais, ee govaryou pa-rooskie ochyen ploxa.)

you know, it's amazing just what *isn't* on these dang keyboards!

Jane: You're a twisted little cruller, ain't'cha?

Yes. :)

Hehe, that's a good idea <lol>, find other ways to say it. :) I will have to use this technique in the exam if I can't remember something.... which is quite likely, as my brain is getting progressively fuzzier each day... <g>

:) I'm doing quite well, got an A in the mock (30/32 points, fell down on speaking* and listening IIRC) and am predicted A for my "real" GCSE.

*went especially badly; I told her I had a sister called Jason...

I'm taking French and Spanish, and Spanish is *far* easier to pronounce. Despite this, I got 8 for spoken French and 7 for spoken Spanish in the mock, but as I said, the Spanish oral exam went pretty badly. <g>

Hehe. :)

The only word I know in Spanish is curveso (sp?) and I can't remember how to spell it or pronounce it. I remember it because it's the only language in which the word for beer isn't something which at least sounds like "beer".

Actually, tell a lie, I've just realised I do know another Spanish word... I even know a Portugese one: porto, which means "port" (the drink, that is). BTW whilst I'm on the subject, I tried our local 24 hour supermarket recently and guess what? They're not allowed to sell alcohol during those extra opening hours. I turned up at about 10pm and the booze section was cordoned off. Not selling alcohol in an evening seems a bit like that UK law (if it is still a law?) that you can't sell bibles on a Sunday.

-Shez.

Shez wrote:

Cerveza. Just noticed that it sounds an awful lot like "cabeza", the word for "head".

MIKE (a.k.a. "Progbear")

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Can you just imagine the poor soul who mixes up the two? "Dame una cabeza, por favor", followed by stares and accusations with pointed fingers, and "Tengo un dolor en mi cerveza", followed by a thorough investigation of the speaker's person. LOL. I'm weird sometimes....

deena lissa "pero, quiero una cabeza...si...bueno, tienes margaritas...?"

"No, no, no, don't believe anything you hear. Get the real shit from me." -- Simon LeBon, "Behind the Music" (VH-1) Jane: Dear Daria, Lousy Traitor. Daria: Dear Jane, I know what you are, but what am I?

deena lissa wrote:

There are much, much worse words to confuse in Spanish. Like "manejar" with "manajar". ;-{)>

MIKE (a.k.a. "Progbear")

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"Cerveza", isn't it? I think that's the only Spanish word most people know....

I'm beginning to notice a pattern here... <g>

<lol> :)

In article , "endless, nameless" wrote:

I'm sure you'll do fine, though. If you're taking both French AND Spanish and you're learning things from both, you should know that there are words in the two languages which are shared, i.e. are either closely resembling their counterpart or are actually the same word. Seeing as they're Romance languages and all.

HEY, I'm sure you'll do fantastically then. Congratulations on the mock A and hope you do as well, if not better, on the actual GCSE. The speaking and listening parts, though, were my favorites when I was taking Spanish. Maybe they just don't have interesting-enough things for you to listen to. Most of the time we would find more entertainment in the listening exams than any other time in any other class during the day.

"Tengo una hermana; su nombre es..."...gosh, what is "Jason" in Spanish, anyway? I know that "Pablo" is "Paul", "Juan" is "John", "Antonio" is "Anthony", "Elena" is "Helen"...um, know others, I'm sure. But charming story. "Si, mi hermana tengo el nombre de 'Jason'...si, es la verdad! Mami!!! Dija a Sra. Allen [just making up a name] la verdad sobre el nombre de mi hermana, por favor!"

That's OK, I'm sure you did a bang-up job with the pronuncations and whatnot. :)

Bueno, ahora estoy TAN cansada y quiero dormir...pero no puedo ahora *pout*. *sigh*...ah, pero es VIERNES...que bueno...EL FIN DE SEMANA! Voy a dormir cuando me arriva a casa hoy. Y despues, mi madre y yo (y mi tia) iramos a cenar a una restaurante (sp?). Creo que ira una restaurante mexicana. No puedo imaginar despues del fin de hoy.

deena lissa now _I_ feel like I'm missing pieces of sleep.... (downing Coke for that, though)

"No, no, no, don't believe anything you hear. Get the real shit from me." -- Simon LeBon, "Behind the Music" (VH-1) Jane: Dear Daria, Lousy Traitor. Daria: Dear Jane, I know what you are, but what am I?

Yeah, that helps a bit, but it's also *very* confusing at times... A lot of the time, I'll remember the Spanish in French lessons, and the French in Spanish lessons... And we have French and Spanish on the same days as well, which doesn't exactly help.

It's all the listening, listening again, writing the answer, waiting for everyone else to finish writing it down, listening, listening again... that gets boring. I can't ever even remember what's on the tape afterwards, I get so bored... I guess the tape must be pretty boring as well, then.... <g>

<LOL> IIRC the teacher just said "�Jason es tu *hermana*?" or something and hoped I realised the mistake, which I did... That wasn't the only stupid mistake I made, but I can't remember any other ones, that kinda sticks out in my memory... <g> I think it was mostly nervousness that made me mess up so many times there, my Spanish teacher has one of those massive fake smiles and it's very unnerving, especially when you know she can't stand you.

My French pronounciation was pretty appalling, I remember, but I managed to get 8 points amazingly enough...

�D�nde estas en esta momento?

[not at all sure about that... <g>]

No hay un restaurante mexicana en Maidenhead... Hay McDonalds y Pizza Hut, pero creo que no hay mucho m�s. <g>

I feel more sick than tired, but I am pretty tired... am beginning to think maybe I should, like, stop taking laxatives unnecessarily, eat more, and maybe get some "help"...

Nahh. <g>

Good idea, I think you've been in danger of turning into Quinn recently!

-Shez.

Brr, scary thought. <shudder>. It's not really the same, though... I'm not fashion-obsessed, I know there's nothing remotely attractive about being really skinny, I know it's not going to make me more popular or anything, but that's not the point - I'm doing this because I want to, and I'm completely ignoring what everyone else says. :P

In article , "endless, nameless" wrote:

Umm...ok. But do you think it likely that you might decide to do something different someday? I know! You could take up bodybuilding and instead of being obsessive about being thin you could be obsessive about being muscular. Think about it.

In any case, take care of yourself, ok? I've enjoyed hearing from you on this NG. I'd hate it if anything bad happened to you.

Bob

[email] wrote:

Errmm.... Perhaps not. <g>

:)

In article , "endless, nameless" wrote:

Oh that would suck, I'll bet. Whew...gracias a dios que tenia que dar instrucciones solamente en una idioma, y no en dos o mas. (My parents ended up making my selection for me anyway, though, seeing as though I hadn't a clue about how to speak Spanish and I can't speak to a lot of my relatives without knowing Spanish.)

You don't do what we had to do then? We had to listen to the whole audio selection and then listen for the questions, then write the answers down. I got VERY good at keeping multiple questionable words in temporary storage in my brain *g*.... Tapes were interesting, though. A lot of conversations in cafes, phone conversations, and radio commercials.

It's OK, we're all allowed to make stupid mistakes :) Most especially when you're nervous and stuck with a monstrous teacher. My Spanish I teacher made me feel VERY awkward. Spanish II & III were interesting, though. I had a teacher from Colombia, which alone made it hard to feel nervous around her (foreign accents and nervousness with me don't mix...usually I end up intrigued instead).

Bet it's HARD. My best friend took French and it sounded like you had to have Supertounges in order to pronouce half the stuff. Or a lot of phlegm....

You mean "este momento"? (pero fue muy bueno, chiquita) Estoy aqui en mi escuela, en el centro de computadores en el centro de universidad. No puedo ahora ir al Internet a casa porque mi computador alla esta necesitando mas "memory".

Pretty good job if you ask me. Is why I said to you above, "pero fue muy bueno, chiquita".

Why am I not surprised? *g* Cuando llego a Inglaterra otra vez, tendra a cocinar cosas como enchiladas, chiles rellenos, carne guisada, fajitas, y mas, para todo el pais. (good lord, how am I going to do that?)

Um, honey, do you want me to give you this issue of "People" magazine I saw at Walgreens a week ago or so...? (Americans on this list will get this reference immediately.) :)

deena lissa if you've got any problems at all, please feel free to come to me, okay? I'm one of those "helpers"....

"No, no, no, don't believe anything you hear. Get the real shit from me." -- Simon LeBon, "Behind the Music" (VH-1) Jane: Dear Daria, Lousy Traitor. Daria: Dear Jane, I know what you are, but what am I?

We had to take French from year 7 up until the end of year 9; in year 8 we had to chose Spanish or German, to take up until before year 10 again (my dad wanted me to take German, but I figured Spanish would be more useful as it's spoken in more places). Then we had to either continue both or drop one for GCSE.

We've got the questions on the paper, and there's a that's played which has the answers to the questions on it, and we have to write it down... boring.

Oops, yeah. :)

Hehe. :)

Thanks. :)

That's kinda what I was thinking... <g>

<puzzled...> Umm...would one of them please explain? <g>

In article , "endless, nameless" wrote:

have

mas,

I ended up taking two years of Latin in high-school--and doing badly with it as usual. From that I concluded that I just don't do well with languages, with the possible exceptions of Fortran, Cobol and Assembler. (I probably ought to look into C and Java but I don't bother with this stuff much anymore.) I'd hate to have to even attempt learning another natural language. I've always assumed that I simply lacked the intelligence to learn languages, and you already know what I do to English. Or it could just be the instructors. I've always found I can learn more effectively from someone who knows the subject than from someone who's very nearly as confused as I am.

Of course I guess I'm all set if I ever visit Latin America. <G> Seriously though, Latin does offer some interesting insights into English. So many interesting English words come from Latin--especially if you find yourself talking to Doctors or Lawyers. Greek makes its contributions as well, but then it's all Greek to me. <G>

I think it's interesting how the study of various languages comes into and out of fashion. At one time it was thought that we should all study Russian, since it seemed inevitable that the Russians (Soviets) were going to take over everything. Then it was argued that you ought to study Japanese since the Japanese were going to take over everything. Now people are saying you should study Spanish since, at least in the U.S., some seem to think that Spanish- speaking people are taking over everything. Depending on local demographics and the nature of your own personal bigotry you might come up with any number of languages that are "taking over." I'd guess the safest course would be to study them all. Of course considering how many Latin words that Lawyers use, maybe the best thing is to study Latin, since it's obvious that the Lawyers are "taking over."

Bob

"...And don't think you're confusing me with that French."--Quinn

[email] wrote:

My mother told me that in Cold War West Germany there was a saying, "Optimists learn Russian, pessimists learn Chinese." ;-)

Now what would make you think *that*? ;-)

rich, esq.

Helen: Bureaucracy is the price we pay for impartiality.

Jake: Jefferson!

Helen: Stalin.

[email] wrote:

My dad thought I should learn German, as Germany was going to take over Europe soon, or something... I told him that, as I'd have to learn German then anyway, I should take Spanish, and then I'd know one more language which can't be a bad thing. ;)

"endless, nameless" wrote:

When I was taking French in HS, a friend of mine and I got bored and decided to take a little Russian... lemme just say that if you think mixing French and Spanish is bad... *shudder*

The worst part is that when I finally got serious about learning German in college, I would sometimes stick German words in my French stuff, and French in my German.

Ich mochte ein kaltes fromage de la belle France.... ;-) rich.

Jake: I love camping! I love it! ... Has anybody seen my pants?

paperpusher wrote in message ...

<chuckle> I spent some time in Cardiff, and as much to show I wasn't one of those arrogant Saesnoes who think Wales is part of England as for any other reason, I tried to learn Welsh.

Did you know the *initial* letters of nouns mutate in Welsh? e.g, Cardiff in Welsh is Caerdydd. (dd pronounced as "th" in "Though"). But Rydi im byw yng Nghaerdydd (I live in Cardiff). The more Welsh I learned, the more my admiration for the Welsh people grew....

I did wonder what lifestyle they thought we were leading when one of the phrases we learned was, "Ble mae'r sebon, fenyw?"

(Now, should I translate that? No, this is atd! <g>)

My multipurpose Welsh phrase (I just love the sound of it) to be used only with people who don't speak Welsh: Mae'r cig moch yn llosgi. Whisper it gently, and it's as romantic as you could wish. Spit it out fiercely, and you can express the deepest ire. Mean? Oh, well, actually, it means, "The bacon is burning."

Martin.

On Fri, 16 Apr 1999 17:14:16 GMT, [email] (paperpusher) wrote:

LOL!

Damon Orca on #Stars!

Wow, I took one of those once. But it didn't count and I got out of real classes and got to spend time with a few other German students and Frau and watch some filmstrip I didn't understand and see a Trabant. Trabants are cars for the former Communist East Germany, the DDR (Deutsches Dundesrepublik) and their made out of this plastic/cloth thing that they can't get rid of now, they have literally lawnmower engines, not safe glass, and are smaller than a VW Beetle. Very weird. Anyhow.

Hehe, Connie did that and said something in Spanish during Japanese.

Dagny misery chick, cynic

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Eccles9697 wrote:

They're made out of Fiberglas and run on crude oil...thus they spew out lots of noxious brown smoke.

MIKE (a.k.a. "Progbear")

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N.P.:"All I Want"- J o n i M i t c h e l l / B l u e

What's really weird is that when I saw U2 back in 1993, they had two trebants on stage that they used as lighting rigs. I presume they stripped out the engine and innards and replaced them with a big stage light, it was quite weird actually......

Phill.

/----------------[ Courage is Grace Under Pressure. ]--------------------\

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Eccles said:

they

Sounds like it would take a very brave, and very small man to drive one of those things.

Sincerely Yours, Jordan

endless, nameless wrote in message ...

Bono estente! Hethehthethehthehthe, pethehthethethethe, boutros boutros ghali; scorchio!

(With apologies to all who've never seen that show!). [1]

Martin.

[1] http://www.comedyzone.beeb.com/fastshow/ for the bewildered....

Martin Sylvester wrote:

I just about died when I saw that. ROTFLOL!

MIKE (a.k.a. "Progbear")

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N.P.:"El Cortejo de un D�a Amarillo"- B u b u / A n a b e l a s

In article , "Martin Sylvester" wrote:

In the latest Fortean Times there's an arrticle at the back about Ken Campbell, who wants to make Pidgin English the "International Language" (Wol Wantok). He's even translated Shakespeare's "Macbeth" into Pidgin ("Macbed").

The FT could be considered a print version "Sick Sad World". Actually, "Bizarre" might be more like SSW; the FT is slightly more scientific. The FT has a photo of Campbell with sink plungers stuck to his head.

Bear wrote:

Hmm...I thought the print version of SSW was the "Weekly World News". ;-{)>

MIKE (a.k.a. "Progbear")

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In article , "endless, nameless" wrote:

Bjork

Well, whenever in doubt, just make a tiny dot with your pencil so that if there is supposed to be an accent there, your teacher will count it right, and if there isn't, she may interpret it as an accidental pencil mark...that got me through seven years of Spanish :) **************************************** "Awww, poor baby. You want some cheese for that whine?" "You want some corn for that pun?"

Accented characters don't always get through on Usenet anyway, as older news servers strip out special characters. With my last ISP, accented stuff and pound signs simply disappeared from posts, so using the umlaut would result in some people seeing "Bjrk" or "Bj rk". (This is also why people on Usenet also tend to use the cumbersome "UKP" for "UK pounds", as the "�" sign isn't a standard character either and sometimes goes AWOL.)

Whatever happened to Molly Ringwald? I love all of her movies. She did a great line in ones about being an outsider like Daria, most of them more realistic and downer than the sugary teen rebel movies Winona Ryder did. Eg. compare Winona Ryder in "Welcome Home Roxy Carmichael" (where the "happy ending" is that the ragamuffin rebellious independent girl gets her man by becoming a cute conformist girl with ribbons in her hair), to Molly Ringwald in "Surviving" (where she solves her relationship problems by entering into a suicide pact).

And have you seen her in "Spacehunter - The Forbidden Zone"? One of the great SF movie flops, if you like that sort of thing.

-Shez.

Shez said:

Oh, I *loved* that movie, and the best thing about it was Nikki the Twister.

VILLAIN: "I will *have* your vitality!" NIKKI (totally misunderstanding what the villain intends, thinks for a moment ...): Well <sniff> ok ... just so long as you don't hurt me ...

A *classic* bit ...

SIncerely Yours, Jordan

In article , deena lissa wrote:

mentioned on Caroline in the City

Chain of coffee houses started in Seattle some number of

original when I first went to Seattle!). It may be a

like the atmosphere and besides, over here they're

Nobles so I get to go browse the computer books

section, and the periodicals. Yay!

name?

sitting at

they both

who was

Duran is a

he thought,

commented that he originally thought it sounded like an

now it sounds like nothing at all" (1983).

considered cute.

too embarrasingly

with sparkling eyes

happily without even

free.

press here who consider her to

realise this (not being a reader of

normal people) until I read her

"She's an idiot. My whole family hates her. She plays rubbish songs.

She can't sing. She can't dance." -- Dean (9)

exactly stupid but the way she goes on, it's as if

Janine (10)

I first got to

MTV's "120

smiled whenever I

Human Behaviour video best, it's really weird, like where she's

holding a knife and fork and a giant moth falls onto her plate, and

looks at us with an expression that says "yum yum".

produced an astonishing number of amazing videos, all very

like the one where she dances on the back of a truck, or

bears in a padded cell (or something like that), or

character. However the tracks I like best as videos

as music.

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and is singing

a truck is "Big

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video, which meant I liked

video yet, but over here there

on the radio (heck, they hardly

never really have, not even 15 years

videos and MTV to get a chance to hear

lissa

this point

shit from me."

Daria, Lousy Traitor.

I'm kinda sleepy myself and i don't have the energy to go to the Bjork forum so i'll just say...I saw the "Army Of Me" video before I got to listen to the music on radio or on CD... it was no use... the bomb in the museum image kept leaping into my mind. BTW, a friend of mine saw a CD of Bjork in a mall with "non-english" (his description) text on it...do you know what that might be? Also... I'm already 29 and I like her a lot. More power to you!

In article , [email] wrote:

[chunk]

Icelandic probably... Depends which album it was. I think Post might have had Japanese katakana contained in the image? Or something.

My head hurts, the afternoon is dragging and I haven't drunk enough liquids today...

... Why is it "The Best Of ..." albums contain the most popular songs the [performer] has done, but the actual best ones? "It's oh so quiet" has been played to death, it irritates me now. I much prefer "Isobel". Likewise, I can never listen to "The Best of Queen"* or "Bohemian Rhapsody", having listened to "Sheer Heart Attack" and "A day at the Races" in full.

*The first album I bought. On tape. Gah.

[copy, paste] My head hurts, the afternoon is dragging and I haven't drunk enough liquids today...

<snip stuff about Bjork (Bj�rk? I've forgotten already...)>

<LOL> I don't know, it's very strange.... They put the popular ones on there because that's what sells, I guess. Popular songs are rarely the best, though. I'm currently listening to the Manic Street Preachers' "The Holy Bible", which most who own it would argue is a "Best Of..." album in itself <g>, but wasn't the album that got them in the charts.* If the Manics were to make a "Best Of..." album now, it'd probably be mostly songs off the last two albums, because that's what'd sell best. Their best song is 4st 7lb IMO, but they'd never put that on a "Best Of..." because it'd scare off most of the new fans. <g>

*Not long after its release, their guitarist disappeared (read: jumped off a bridge). One reviewer later commented in a review of THB, "If I made an album like this, and the world heard it and didn't immediately unravel as a result, jumping off a bridge would be high on my list of appropriate responses," which I think sums it up pretty well. <g>

I can sympathise entirely. :)

Have no idea what you're on about here... <g>

In article , "endless, nameless" wrote:

can

Buzz

I'll have to amend my "Favourite comics" bit on the atd readers poll to include Strangers in Paradise (by Terry Moore). It's the comic book for people who don't read comic books, as one reviewer put it. Try and find the first collection if you can; if you like it there are 6 more... (Book #2 completed my set). For reasons described below I can't tell you much about it. Ask later and I'll try and fill you in.

I'm missing a big whole chunk of sleep: went to bed late, couldn't get to sleep at all. Only started dropping off about an hour before I was supposed to get up, which was an hour earlier than usual today... Guuhhh...

Well, as I don't read comic books, this should be suitable for me. :)

I went to bed a bit late last night.... about 3am. Didn't get to sleep til about 5:30am. I mentioned this at school, and this (stoner) guy in my class said "That is so stupid! That's like something *I* would do!" A scary thought... <g>

Sounds like you had a nice, cheery, fun Easter. Me, I just sat around with my dad and second and third cousins watching TV. Aaah, the fun of holidays in an agnostic/atheistic household... plus I came down with a cold. But on the plus side, I got chocolate, so can I really complain?

What exactly is the meaning of that? I've meant to ask for a long time, but every time I reply to you I either forget or its something different.

-Mindy

Mindy of Hell Enterprises writes:

I don't know, but they're traditionally the two main music news publications in the UK, having been around for decades. When I was at school they were about the only "newspapers" most people seemed to read. The music press has a bad reputation though, of hyping bands up, then once they're popular they change tunes and savage them, a pastime that the popular press like to join in with like a pack of jackals. Personally I stopped reading the music press a decade ago, it's much nicer to just listen to the music than read the vitriol that is poured on musicians.

-Shez.

I was asleep most of the time. Except at, like, 5am, or something.... think I'm becoming nocturnal....

I thought I had a cold, but I think I'm just exhausted.... :)

I complained about getting chocolate.

Have you considered that you may be turning into an owl? Big eyes, nocturnal habits, hypermobility (can you swivel your head through 180 degrees like an owl yet?).

That reminds me, there's a really creepy story called the Owl Service that was once made into a really good tv series, but I can't remember who it's by, Alan Garner possibly.

-Shez.

Erm, no. <g> One of my friends gets up at 5.45am every bloody day. Like, that's before I go to bed when I have no school. :/

See now, you missed a good opportunity. Any day that a lot of people are going to church is a day that a lot of people won't be other places. More room for us. Of course, I tend to forget about the religious holidays, so I don't take advantage of them very often.

I did have a coincidental Easter ceremony this year, though. Went skydiving for the first time. "Jesus Christ, it's a long way down."

My relatives decided instead of actually <gasp!> *doing* something, we should watch old reruns of "All in the Family" and "The Simpsons", despite my loud and screeching prostests.

Skydiving... I'd like to try that sometime, as long as I get a guarantee that they won't be pissed off if I wet my pants. I'm a little nervous around heights, jumping out of an airplane sounds like a good way to cure it, doesn't it?

-Mindy

[email] (Mindy) wrote:

Well, it'll either cure it or it'll "take care" of it so you won't ever worry about falling again. ;-)

And if you're worried about wetting yourself, you could always slip on a pair of Depends underneath your jumpsuit. <g>

just trying to be helpful, rich.

Jane: Usually when I have this dream I'm wearing pink taffeta.

On the mountaintop, [email] spake thusly:

Thanks for the reassurance. You're going to have to come up here and hold my hand when I jump now.

Do those come in fat people sizes?

With Depends underneath.

-Mindy "The end is the end, the beginning is the beginning, and everyone's happy."

Hehe, I was just reading some suicide FAQ (LOL, don't jump to conclusions, someone posted the url on alt.music.manics a while back <g>) and it listed skydiving as a great method of suicide... Said that it's very reliable and most effective if you manage to convince everyone beforehand that you really love skydiving so they'll think it's an accident when your parachute thingie mysteriously fails to open <LOL>....

People have, but I'm pretty certain that the ratio of survivals:deaths with skydiving "accidents" is a lot lower than with wrist-slitting, OD-ing, getting hit by trains, and other more "conventional" methods of suicide.

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plus

Aw, well, at least you got chocolate like you said. :)

My Easter really wasn't too exciting, though. And I did wish it would have been less sunny and that there were fewer mosquitoes out there. I hate bright sun and I hate the damn mosquitoes. They always seem to go for me.

*sigh*...but I would GIVE for the cooler temperatures we experienced on Easter Sunday. Yesterday it reached around 90 here. Damn, summer's going to be here soon. :(

Well, I don't like the NME and Melody Maker because of what they've said about Duran Duran in the past. Melody Maker most especially because (a.) I've read more stuff from them (the local library system's main library has it on reserve) and (b.) I read what they said when they were supposed to be reviewing "Ordinary World". So, that's just something I say.

I did change it, though. AGAIN. Ah well, I'll find something I'll like enough to keep....

deena lissa who is so glad her messages are actually getting out now (yay, Dejanews is working again for me!)

"No, no, no, don't believe anything you hear. Get the real shit from me." -- Simon LeBon, "Behind the Music" (VH-1) Jane: Dear Daria, Lousy Traitor. Daria: Dear Jane, I know what you are, but what am I?

[email] wrote in message ...

Well, I'm not against chocolate ;-) but I agree that celebrating without remembering the reason for celebrating is at best vacuous.

Hmm. S.A.D. is now well recognised, and if your shift pattern and work environment keeps you out of the daylight...

Sorry, right out of silver bullets. 8-)

Well, thanks for keeping that vague enough to tantalise without spoiling.

Bummer. Be consoled by the fact that you've recognised (i) the ineffectiveness of retail therapy and (ii) the negative power of self-pity.

Summer is a comin in, lhude sing cuccu! Christ *is* risen, alleluia alleluia! (Delete anything that offends you, please). 8-)

No prob. Pardon my impertinence in replying to it.

Martin.

Ahh, in my selfishness I'm glad to see I'm not the only one.

[email] wrote:

It's a cultural thing, rather than religious, I reckon, so that doesn't matter to me anymore....heh, not that anything does anyway.... And I was rather irritated to recieve an Easter egg from my mother; I told her not to get me anything. She keeps buying all this food and stuff in the hope that I'll eat some of it....

I've become nocturnal now, getting up at sunset and going to bed at sunrise <lol>.... I am not coping too well with this "holiday" thing, I tell you, I don't know what the fuck I'm doing now I'm off school and there's no timetable telling me where I have to be and what I have to be doing at any particular time.

I've not watched Daria in ages and I don't even care because that gets lost in amongst all the other things that are going wrong.

It's probably a bad idea to drink. I don't know why, that's just what I've been told.... You don't want to end up alcoholic, anyhow.

Don't hate yourself. Hate them, it's much better for you. :)

Hmm...can't say the same for myself. Exams, then summer and a holiday with my "friends" which should be such great fun, being emotionally blackmailed into "enjoying myself".... They phoned me the other day to ask me what the fuck's wrong with me, seeming far more bothered about whether I'd be "miserable" for our holiday then whether I'm actually alright, you know? And then after that, A levels...should be great fun, as I can't do Psychology now, which is actually the one that mattered most to me.... <sigh> and it's too late to apply to East Berkshire.... <lol> sorry....

You're forgiven. :) I can sympathise, although my problems seem pretty different to yours, unless you're having persistant stomach pain and "ant problems", hehe... I hate spring, there's bugs everywhere. :/

I've decided to start an Easter egg orphanage, all unwanted eggs will be well looked after. (Well ok, in fact they'll be "ethnically cleansed" the moment they arrive...)

Yeah it just makes you more depressed. What you need is chocolate, it's an anti-depressant. Or that St.John's Wort stuff, I know someone who tried it to cheer herself up whilst giving up smoking and she says it really gives you a lift.

Hey at least they phone you!

Alli, I *told* you not to eat those ants! It's the formic acid, it gives you indigestion.

-Shez.

LOL, it's quite difficult to avoid eating ants right now, the little bastards are all over the kitchen.... Can't say that affects me much, though, my appetite being what it is.... <g>

They can come to my house, they'll be safe there. We used to dye a ton of Easter eggs when I was little which I thought was great fun until we remembered that no one in my family actually likes hard boiled eggs.

Oh well.

Dagny misery chick, cynic, general loony

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"Depicting people as they really are and not how they see themselves made Goya famous. It just gives me something to do during math." Jane Lane

Of course, the white egg is obviously superior.

That would make a great slogan for an ad campaign against drinking.

Yeah, what the fuck *is* wrong with you? Oh, wait, you *don't* like that, never mind.

My first thought that it was some kind of neurological problem. Some kind of condition that makes you feel like ants are crawling on you.

White eggs are icky. IMO, the darker the better, with eggs. :)

I don't know.

It wouldn't have been so bad, in that example I mentioned before, if they had actually wanted to know, rather than just been worried I would spoil "their" holiday.

It's just that the little bastards are all over the house. :/ That in itself is enough to give me some kind of neurological condition that makes me feel like ants are crawling on me.

[email] wrote:

The bad news is, you've got 6.5 million meters to go before you get back to the surface.

It's healthy to express these feelings... I think. So is the core of the earth really made of iron?

[email] wrote:

By then it will be too late for bullets, and I just sold my crossbow.