Lawndale HS and you

Nov 19, 2001, 5:58 AM ET57 posts by 19 posters
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MMan37x

Imagine -

You're 17, and you're a student at Lawndale High School.

Who would you hang out with? Have a crush on? Hate?

Who would your favorite teachers be? Least favorite?

Where would you hang out? What activities (in or out of school) would you be into?

M Man

Steve CrossMMan37x

Whew! Thank yoy for not making me 13.

That's easy. Daria and Jane.

Daria, Jane, Jodie, and Stacey. Pretty hopeless in Stacey's and Jodie's cases, probably.

Sandy Griffin, Kevvy, Ms. Li. If hate can include jealousy, Tom. I used to think I couldn't stand Upchuck, but he changed a bit in Season 5.

Are you kidding? Except the art teacher, all the teachers have serious "issues." I have some grudging respect for Mr. DeMartino, but his angry outburst in the classroom would not motivate me.

The seedy club where Mystik Spiral plays. What do they call it? The Zone? The pizzeria where Daria and Jane like to eat.

Hard to say. I was a club-joiner in HS, but I didn't get dates out of it like I thought I would.

I like to think that when Tom moved from Jane to Daria, Jane and I would start seeing each other. Jane and I complement each other. Daria and I were so much alike in high school, it would be like dating your clone.

I think Jane is cool. I grew to like her more and more as the show progressed.

Steve Cross

michael farrisMMan37x

Strangely, all the ones I can identify with are female, Jane, Andrea, Daria, Jody (don't know which I'd be able to hang out with) the guys are mostly a real drag (partial exception Mack, but he's a jock)

Have a crush on? Hate?

crushes (from afar): Quinn, Kevin (as long as he keeps his mouth shut), one of the Quinn-followers, Stacey

hatred: Sandi, Tiffany

Mr. Martino (though I'd kind of hate him too)

Least favorite?

Principal Li

My room (let's not get too carried away with fantasy here).

What activities (in or out of school) would you be

don't go there

-michael farris

Martin Edwardsmichael farris

I'd try to get off with Jane, but I'd make a mess of it.

******Martin Edwards.******

Come on! Nobody's gonna drive that lousy freeway when you can take the Red Car for a nickel.

-Eddy Valiant

BAMMan37x

People reading over my shoulder just started a betting pool over what percentage of people answer "Daria" and/or "Jane".

There is a side bet on how many of those people will believe themselves to be the exception to the rule that any conversation with Daria would most likely default to the equivelent of "Hi, my name is X" "Get the hell away from me." or that any attempt to make friends with Jane prior to season five will result in Daria entering Overpossessive Ultraspiteful "I'm not going to let you steal my friend" Mode.

Glenn OlsonBA

On 19 Nov 2001 14:29:04 GMT, [email] (BA) wrote:

First off, any conversation starting with "Hi, my name is X" or any reasonable facsimile thereof is almost guaranteed to get the "Get the hell away from me" response...

I knew a girl like Daria, almost (blonde rather than brunette, never wore a skirt, and if rumours are to be believed she *did* wind up transferring to a private school for gifted students; also arguable whether I actually 'knew' her or simply noticed her.) I could't even look at her without my heart pounding. I think the most I ever said to her was "you dropped your pen,' and I'm pretty sure my voice faltered a bit when I said that. She was the first person I'd ever encountered who was (IMO) genuinely more intelligent than I, and that made her by far the most attractive person I knew.

This was in junior high. I suspect (for the purposes of this 'poll') that any highschool relation I would have had with Daria would be much the same.

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JessicaMMan37x

Lawndale is my high school. Slightly exaggerated, of course, but pretty close.

Realistically speaking, I'd be one of those people in the background the camera pans over. Otherwise, I'd just hang out with Daria and Jane. Possibly Jodie. Seems like most of my friends are a combination of those three anyway.

No one at school, that's for sure.

Fashion Club and clones. Brittany, Kevin, and co. I think we're getting the hint here.

Favorite? The art teacher. Maybe Mr. DeMartino if he would just chill. (reminds me of my band director) Least favorite? Everyone else.

My room. I'm such a loser. Maybe the pizza place.

The same as now....band, French club, all of those pointless honor societies that do utterly nothing....

Hmm. I suppose I like myself the way I am.

jessica

"Once upon a time, there was a lovely little sausage called `Baldrick', and it lived happily ever after."
Belle BookMMan37x

M Man wrote:

Who would I hang out with? First choice would be Daria and Jane. I wouldn't also mind hanging out with Jodie or Stacy, but I would try to encourage Stacy to develop a backbone.

Who would I have a crush on? At the school, maybe Mack; outside the school, Tom. Unfortunately for me, both guys are taken (good thing I'm * not * 17 anymore), and I wouldn't dare get Daria mad at me in any case.

Who would I hate? Well, the person I'd probably hate most would be Sandi, though Brittany's very squeaky voice would annoy the heck out of me, and I'd probably not have anything to do with Kevin or Tiffany (they're both so stupid).

Art's not my favorite subject, but my favorite teacher would be Ms. Defoe, with Mr. DeMartino (the history teacher) in second. I like English, but Mr. O'Neill is not my favorite teacher, though he's not my least favorite one either. That honor would probably go to Ms. Li.

I'd probably hang out at a library or bookstore with Daria, and at the pizza place with both Daria and Jane. Outside of school, I'd probably read. Inside school, I would probably be in the Spanish club, and might be in either the Glee club (I took Chorus when I was in high school) or in the Drama club. But I wouldn't be in both -- would take away too much time from my studies.

Belle Book

Steve CrossBelle Book

No, neither would I. I noticed an "I-hate-Tiffany" motif in this thread. Why would I hate Tiffany? There just isn't much there to hate. Now Sandi, I can see hating her.

Steve Cross

MMan37xSteve Cross

Yeah, I can see "I wouldn't have anything to do with Tiffany", but she hardly seems worth hating. Unless she tried to break my fingers. (Actually, I had fingers broken twice in HS, but both times were accidental, and occurred in gym class.)

I don't suppose I'd hang out with Kevin, but he seems likeable enough.

M Man

Corvus MarinusMMan37x

Hw�t! We have heard of the glory of [email] (MMan37x) that wrote news:[email], on the day of 20 Nov 2001:

Oh, like she'd try to do that. That would involve actual work! She'd find somebody else to do it. ^_^

Well, so far as you *know*, they were accidental...were you a caricaturist in high school, by any chance?

I just can't make the words 'Kevin' and 'likeable' connect in my mind. I'm with Mack on that one.

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MMan37xCorvus Marinus

Probably Robert. And he's bigger than me :-(

Nope, not a caricaturist.

The first time happened while shooting around, warming up for a basketball game. I was standing under the basket, waiting for a rebound. This small kid, who had no idea how to shoot a basketball, hurled the ball overhand from about twenty feet on a line drive. It slammed into the bottom of the hoop and rebounded slam bang into my left middle finger. (Luckily I'm right-handed.) It didn't hurt that much after a few minutes so I went ahead and finished gym class. But by the end of the school day, it was swollen and purple. So I called my mother, who was also the nurse for our family doctor, and she said come over to the doctor's and have it checked. She wasn't happy that I'd let it go so long. I got X-rayed and, sure enough, it was broken.

(Interestingly, with respect to the Daria series, the small kid died the summer after HS graduation in a motorcycle accident very similar to the one Kevin had in "A Tree Grows in Lawndale". Only he was going a lot faster than Kevin and the tree was a lot bigger.)

The other time was in a flag football game. I was waiting to intercept a pass headed right toward me. Someone cut in front of me and deflected it just enough so that it hit my left ring finger head on.

So it doesn't sound like either one could have been deliberate, does it?

And that's not even counting the time my own teammate ran into me going for an interception, head-butted me in the chin, and made me get five freakin' stitches!

This thread sure brings back some wonderful memories.

Gym class was fun!! :-)

M Man

Corvus MarinusSteve Cross

Hw�t! We have heard of the glory of [email] (Steve Cross) that wrote news:1JiK7.21798$[email], on the day of 19 Nov 2001:

You're trolling me, aren't you. ^_^

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MMan37xMMan37x

Since I started this thread, I guess I should answer the questions too.

Who would I hang out with?

Hmmm. It's tempting to say Daria, but she *is* rather anti-social. And then there's the Jane thing. I know it's heretical to say on this ng, but I really can't see myself hanging out with Jane Lane.

More likely someone like Mack (some of my HS friends were the brainier sort of jocks, though I wasn't a jock myself, except for one year on the golf team.). Or maybe Ted. Possibly even Upchuck, though I don't think we really know how he interacts with other guys. He seems to have some interesting hobbies.

I still hold out some hope for Daria, though. She liked Ted well enough, and I was sort of a way-more-normal version of Ted (I even looked a bit like Ted in HS).

Who would I have a crush on?

I think I can narrow this down to two. Daria and Stacy. I really think I could avoid the Quinn obsession (though I'd probably get her a soda if she asked), but she'd be a useful person to know - since she's Daria's sister and Stacy's best friend.

Who would I hate?

Probably Sandi. Aside from her general nastiness, I'd probably blame her if I didn't have any success with Stacy (since I don't think Sandi would put me on the FC dating list). Which might not be entirely fair, but...

Who would my favorite teachers be?

Call me a masochist, but I think I'd actually like DeMartino.

And Defoe.

Least favorite teachers?

Barch (because she'd hate me for the obvious reason). O'Neill (because he'd try so pathetically hard to be my friend).

I'd probably end up disliking Bennett as well. Her confusing lectures would drive me crazy!

And Ms Li.

Where would I hang out?

Probably downtown a lot. I spent my HS years in a little town with no downtown. The mall and movie theaters, etc., were 15 miles away. The town I lived in during my late grade-school years had a nice downtown probably a bit like Lawndale's, and I always missed that in HS.

Activities?

Hmmm. I wasn't much of a joiner (see? Daria will like me!). Lawndale has a lot more activities than my old HS, though, so I'd probably find something, depending on who my friends were.

M Man

Glenn OlsonMMan37x

On 19 Nov 2001 23:58:25 GMT, [email] (MMan37x) wrote:

Ah, correction to my previous answer: Bennet would be my 'favorite.'

My own version of masochism - I always loved the cryptics...

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Yupper3DMMan37x

"MMan37x" wrote in message news:[email]...

    I would definitely hang out with Trent and the Spirals. I would love to
hang out with Daria and Jane. Since Daria is so anti-social, I would
probably try to approach her through Jane.
    Crushes: I would definitely have a crush on Jane, damn is she good
looking! (Plus I can have a quicky in the laundry room ;-)), also Stacey,
she is cute. Obviobsly Daria but as an extra Jane AND Daria together. I also
like Helen - Daria's mom. I wouldn't mind having an affair with her, give
her a little break from work. Have you noticed that she has a really nice
body? One more: Penny (Jane's sis) she is like an older version of Jane plus
we can speak spanish ( Hola Penny, como te va? Quieres nadar conmigo? rrrr).

Hate: Tiffany, Sandy, amog others.

    Favorite: Mmm, Demartino
    Least: The principal.

be

Mmh, pizza place. Different places the M.Spirals go to.

Jordan S. BassiorMMan37x

MMan said:

I'd be one of the RPG'ers and chess clubbers. Of the named characters, I'd probably most likely know Upchuck. I don't know who I'd have a crush on, but knowing me at 17 it would be someone whom I found admirable and intellectual, and I would flub my approach hopelessly. I would probably wind up doing this more than once with more than one girl (the combination of extroversion and incompetence).

I might, actually like DiMartino. Janet Barch and I, rather obviously, would not get along.

Sincerely Yours, Jordan --
Tephra AdulariaMMan37x

*thinks back to when she was 17, and tries to imagine herself in highschool*

Probably no one outside of school. Mack and Jodie most likely. Maybe Daria and Jane but that would depend on Daria's reaction, she and I are a lot alike.

Mack. Jane.

None are really worth that much effort. I'd dislike Sandy though.

DeMartino (hey, if you are a good student it's not that bad in his class) and Defoe.

O'Neil and the gym teacher... Morris?

They aren't teachers but Li and Manson would really get under my skin.

The Library. I never was much for 'hanging out' but if I happened to have a friend or two that I was willing to spend time with out of school then wherever they/we felt like hanging out. I might be a behind the scenes theatre geek or one of those odd computer geek people around school.

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KTrick45Tephra Adularia

Hmm. Nightmares. Oh, well, for argument's sake...

Probably none of the main characters. The other music and theater geeks. The journalism and photography types. I'd no doubt know the main characters, and be on peaceful terms with most of them, but I'd most likely not share their orbit.

The "slacker" girl with the long blonde hair and the leather jacket. Maybe a little on Daria, though I'd know that wasn't going anywhere.

Life's too short for hate. Kevin would probably get on my nerves. The fashion clubbers would be non-entites for the most part, but I'd probably hold Sandi in particularly low esteem.

None of the featured ones.

As portrayed, they all have more or less serious psychological or social pathologies. Barch is the most extreme.

In school, around the band room, choir room or auditorium (or wherever the drama classes are), the newspaper room and the photo lab. Out of school...my room. The public library. Church. If there's a volunteer fire department, maybe there, if they have members under 18. As far from the mall as possible.

Peace Kevin

Glenn OlsonTephra Adularia

On Tue, 20 Nov 2001 10:35:25 GMT, [email] (Tephra Adularia) wrote:

Wow... there's almost enough bi's here to start our own subgroup :)

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Tephra AdulariaGlenn Olson

I was noticing that. :)

Spoilers coming for anyone that hasn't seen Is it Fall Yet...

Might be why I liked IIFY as much as I did. Jane got hit on pretty hard (and sleazily, you can put Allison on the 'hate her' list) and at the end was really giving herself a good introspective once-over. She let Daria unknowingly boost her confidence but you *know* she's going to end up revisiting the doubt again.

I keep wanting to write a 'instead of season 5' fanfic about that. Just haven't figure out how to introduce the catalyst character and get things rolling.

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michael farrisTephra Adularia

Was it just me or did they kind of gloss/glide over that particular issue after IIFY?

I haven't seen season 5 (thank you stupid Polish MTV for putting on 'cribs' instead!) but from summaries I'd read they never seemed to get back to it.

-michael farris

Tephra Adulariamichael farris

[email] wrote:

I wasn't able to see most of season 5 but from the transcripts I've read I don't think they ever revisited it. I'm not too disappointed with that given they would have only had season 5 and IICY to develop it. No where near enough time to do it 'right' in my opinion.

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michael farrisGlenn Olson

I'm not so sure.

There's more than one kind of crush, after all (B&B had a major non-amatory crush on Todd)

-michael farris

Tephra Adulariamichael farris

[email] wrote:

I've never heard the term 'crush' used in a non-romantic sense. Fixation, obsession, etc. yes, but not 'crush'.

And in context of the original survey post a romantic crush would make more sense.

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michael farrisTephra Adularia

I have.

okay, okay, thee's a lot of bi's here! (I never wrote that was a bad thing, look at my list should you doubt that).

-michael farris

Tephra Adulariamichael farris

[email] wrote:

Probalby a regional/cultural difference in connotation. :)

Well my opinion is there are a lot more bisexual individuals than purely hetero or homosexual individuals. It's a continuous spectrum between them rather than discrete little boxes. :) The amount of bias varies from 'effectively heterosexual' to 'effectively homosexual' with the ends being people that just aren't likely to meet someone outside of their normal preference that would interest them enough to go after them.

My answer would suggest that I myself am in the middle but that's false. There just aren't that many males in Daria that I would consider worth the time. :)

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Glenn OlsonTephra Adularia

On Thu, 29 Nov 2001 03:17:05 GMT, [email] (Tephra Lynn Davis) wrote:

That's just a combination of caricature and having good taste :p I've found that RL is very similar (in terms of having a lot of losers, especially among the guys,) but most of them can hide it a bit better behind a pretty face than a cartoon can.

Until we get into anime, that is...

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Belle BookTephra Adularia

Tephra Lynn Davis wrote:

Nor would I. The only guys on the show that I would definitely consider worth the time are Mack, Tom, and possibly Trent, and Trent and Tom don't even go to Lawndale (though Trent once did)! Part of the trouble lies in the fact that Daria is a show starring a teenage girl, and therefore there will probably be more likeable girls on the show than likeable guys.

BTW, if I was a boy, I'd probably have a crush on Daria, Jane, Jodie, or maybe even Stacy (if she develops a backbone).

Belle Book

Corvus MarinusMMan37x

Hw�t! We have heard of the glory of [email] (MMan37x) that wrote news:[email], on the day of 19 Nov 2001:

AAAHHHH! NO! NO! NO! Um, oh wait. 'Imagine.' Got it. *sigh of relief*

Hmm. Difficult to imagine, but not impossible. (My family was never in the right tax bracket for Lawndale.)

The same people I hung out with when I really was 17: no one.

Sandi. (Pauses for chorus of "Well, duh.") Jane. Dawn. Mrs. Bennett. Not one of whom would look twice at me.

Kevin. Geeks hate jocks. <Quinn> I think it's like a rule or something.</Quinn>

Well, Mrs. Bennett, obviously. I'd probably dig Mr. DeMartino, because I can identify with an insane middle-aged man who teaches history, and anybody who can make his eye pop out of his head like that is wicked cool. ^_^

As I would be neither a jock nor a would-be stud, I might fly under Ms. Barch's radar, but in any case the most hateful of all the Lawndale High teachers is (drum roll please)...Ms. Morris! Of course, she teaches the Girls' Gym Class (have they ever shown the Boys' Gym teacher?), so I guess I'll have to go with Mr. O'Neill, because people who try to 'involve' themselves in other people's lives like he does make my skin crawl.

The school library and my house.

Reading. Just like in real life. God, being 17 sucked! Good questions, though. Thanks for giving the group a boost.

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MMan37xCorvus Marinus

Yeah, I considered her, too, and left her out for the same reason you did. I suppose she could have been my study hall monitor or something.

Probably the football coach.

Ditto

Now I'm going to be hearing that stupid Janis Ian song in my head for a week, unless I watch my tape of "Daria!" again. I think I'll go for it. :-)

Glad to be of service! :-)

M Man

Corvus MarinusCorvus Marinus

Hw�t! We have heard of the glory of [email] (Belle Book) that wrote news:[email], on the day of 21 Nov 2001:

My condolences! That's one of my favorite eps.

Not unless she was in a crowd scene (she's probably somewhere in "I Loathe A Parade"). She also appears in one of the yearbook photos in "The Daria Database," but aside from that very little is known about her. She reminds me of the Woody Allen line from *Annie Hall*: "Those who can't do, teach, and those who can't teach, teach gym."

Well, if you were at Lawndale, you never know...Principal Li might be too cheap to pay for an additional gym teacher.

Mark Steese a/k/a Corvus Marinus

"I'm an impulse buyer. The primitive little *knot* at the top of my *spine* says I'll have *all* this stuff." -Max, "Beast from the Cereal Aisle"
Belle BookCorvus Marinus

Corvus Marinus/Mark Steese wrote:

I don't think I saw her in ILAP, but they just simply might've chosen not to show her. That's all the more reason why MTV should air all the episodes before IICY -- I've missed too many of them!

She probably * is * too cheap, come to think of it. Or more likely, she's too obsessed with security to pay more for essentials, like additional gym teachers.

Belle Book

MMan37xCorvus Marinus

Surprisingly, when you think about it, she wasn't even in the picketing scenes in "Lucky Strike". Maybe Ms Li fired her for failing to keep Jane on the track team!

M Man

FirahMMan37x

"MMan37x" wrote in message news:[email]...

Loathe

scenes

track

Ms Morris is among the teachers picketing outside of Lawndale HS. You can see her in the scene where DeMartino is muttering to himself about "box stitching" (No. No. NEVER again!). She's is also there when Ms Bennet tells everyone about Ms. Li's "final offer".

Firah

MMan37xFirah

Hmmmph. I'll have to take another look next time that comes up on my tapes.

M Man

scolopendraMMan37x

[email] (MMan37x) wrote in message news:...

all the deranged idiots who attend the classes that have kids with criminal records or social disorders, and maybe Jane and Tom if they was together. i'd probably scare Daria and her sister. They're too sheltered to be cozy around people like me.

Jane. I knew a girl like Jane. Regret never making it with her.

I think I'd subconsiously resent everyone.

I'd probably be on a good level with every one of the staff members.

Cutting class, hitting up on everyone for money, trying to make it with the fashion clubbers, etching things into the bathroom stalls, loitering in stairwells, ranting and raving during lunch periods, writing chaos stories...then trying to tell them to anyone i come across. there.

KTrick45MMan37x

Belle Book wrote:

Yep, she's closest to "normal", but she's a "hippie chick" who never quite grew out of it. At least, she's turned her neurosis into something socially productive. A Freudian would say she's doing quite well.

Peace Kevin

Belle BookKTrick45

KTrick45 wrote:

Especially when you compare her to the rest of the teachers (plus the principal) who are at good old Lawndale High. They've got worse neuroses or are even psychotic.

Belle Book

Corvus MarinusBelle Book

Hw�t! We have heard of the glory of [email] (Belle Book) that wrote news:[email], on the day of 22 Nov 2001:

Mrs. Bennett seems pretty normal, unless you want to classify collecting "Fuzzy-Wuzzy Wee Bits" as a neurosis. (I think she's the only teacher at Lawndale who's currently married.) Of course, Mrs. Bennett and Ms. Defoe probably get less air time than the other teachers *because* they're more- or-less normal - it's a lot easier to write funny lines for psychopaths. ^_^

Mark Steese a/k/a Corvus Marinus

"I'm an impulse buyer. The primitive little *knot* at the top of my *spine* says I'll have *all* this stuff." -Max, "Beast from the Cereal Aisle"
Belle BookCorvus Marinus

Corvus Marinus/Mark Steese wrote:

And a lot easier to make extremely neurotic or psychotic characters interesting, too. Making the saner people or the angelic characters interesting has always been tough, iirc.

Belle Book

Corvus MarinusBelle Book

Hw�t! We have heard of the glory of [email] (Belle Book) that wrote news:[email], on the day of 02 Dec 2001:

It has been, but the Daria writers do a better job than most at showing decent but flawed people. Mrs. Bennett isn't perfect - she can't stand up to Principal Li at all, even when she knows she should (as in 'Fizz Ed'), and she tries to get Mr. DeMartino to accept an obviously inadequate settlement in "Lucky Strike." Her relationship with Principal Li could certainly be developed, and I think the writing team could make something interesting out of it; the really difficult part would be relating it to the main characters, Daria and Jane.

One of the most intriguing aspects of the show is the way the writers suggest private lives for the supporting characters. (It's especially impressive given that most television writers can't even create plausible private lives for the *main* characters.) If the Daria staff were to create a spin-off called 'Lawndale' and fill in some of the blanks, I know I'd watch.

Mark Steese a/k/a Corvus Marinus still wants to know what the deal with Tiffany's family is

"I'm an impulse buyer. The primitive little *knot* at the top of my *spine* says I'll have *all* this stuff." -Max, "Beast from the Cereal Aisle"
Belle BookCorvus Marinus

Corvus Marinus/Mark Steese wrote:

You're right in saying that Daria's writers do a better job than most in developing basically decent but flawed people. I can think of a lot of examples of that, but the one that comes to mind the most among the supporting characters is Stacy of the Fashion Club.

I wouldn't mind taking a look at the private lives of the supporting characters in a spin-off of Daria, if Eichler ever wrote such a sequel. That would be quite fascinating.

Belle Book

Steve CrossBelle Book

In article , [email] (Belle Book) wrote:

The Stacey Rowe Show? Interesting. Oh, well, I know it won't happen, but I can dream, can't I?

<Sandi> If there's going to be a show about a Fashion Club member, it should be the Sandi Show. After all, I'm President, and rank has its privileges. </Sandi>

Steve Cross

MMan37xSteve Cross

<Stacy>

Oh, Sandi, you are SO naive!

</Stacy>

:-)

M Man

Daniel DeyMMan37x

"MMan37x" wrote in message news:[email]...

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the

There was talk of spin-offs starring Stacy, Quinn, Mack, Jane, Mystik Spiral, and even Artie a few months ago on PPMB. "Those Darn Aliens" almost became a fanfic, too.

D. T. Dey

Pierces888Daniel Dey

All interesting choices, but personally, I think that the only characters that are deep and developed to carry a show of their own are Jodie, and maybe Quinn if they are commited to character development over time...although I can picture MTV's suits pinching the bridges of their noses and thinking how they DON'T want to deal with another 'Daria' series and it's attendant baggage (i.e. fans.) Before anyone says anything to me about excluding Jane, I happen to feel that offbeat characters work better when they are slightly off-center, a foil for the main protagonist. Avery Brooks' character of 'Hawk' was the best thing about Robert Urich's "Spencer For Hire," but it wasn't as interesting in his own show "A Man Called Hawk."

Pierce

Michelle Klein-HassBelle Book

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I want to see this...

MYSTIK SPIRAL: THE TOUR.

Imagine a mix of The Monkees, the Beatle Cartoons, Spinal Tap and...well, just Mystik Spiral-ness. It would rule.

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Glenn OlsonMMan37x

On 19 Nov 2001 10:58:50 GMT, [email] (MMan37x) wrote:

Hang out: No One. Crush: Andrea, Daria, possibly Trent (depending on how he'd translate physically.) Jane I would consider 'cute but out of my league.' Hate: Everyone Else.

On a very, very stupid level: Sandi would have a crush on me, though spoken of only in terms of "he might have potential to be less uncool if the fashion club did some work on him..."

I, of course, would percieve any such attempt to do so as them trying to humiliate me.

No favorites, DeMartino is least favorite - I had a teacher much like him. Much bigger, though, and without the 'Nam flashbacks.

I never 'hung out,' or participated in any particular activities when I was in school. Lawndale doesn't have anything in particular that would seem to make much difference.

"I want to be pretty *and* kick butt" - 19 y/o girl's reaction to Angelina Jolie as Lara Croft http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A4894-2001Jun14.html
Jordan S. BassiorGlenn Olson

Kaos said:

Why's Jane out of your league but not Daria? Aren't they roughly in the same league?

That's a big group to hate.

Sincerely Yours, Jordan --
MMan37xJordan S. Bassior

In appearance I actually think Daria is much better-looking, though she tries to hide it by the way she dresses. Jane doesn't have much of a figure. I'm not saying Jane is ugly, but no more than moderately good-looking.

Personality? There's a softness underneath Daria's cynicism. Jane never quite seems to lose her cynicism, even in her softest moments. I think this is especially evident when the two girls smile. Jane always has a bit of a smirk when she smiles, but Daria can smile for real (even when she's trying to suppress it).

Tom tried to get Daria to smile several times before he even knew her that well. Trent and Luhrmann as well. Like they all sensed there was someone a bit cuddly under that cynicism.

(There! This ng will be kept active for months by Jane-fans flaming me! :-) )

M Man

Jordan S. BassiorMMan37x

MMan said:

quite

suppress it).

Jane's more self-reliant (she had to be, with Trent as her only protector), but Daria is more independent minded. Jane wants to be liked and loved more than Daria does -- Daria can take it or leave it, and will quickly reject someone who fails to meet her standards in any manner. Jane is a more tolerant, easy-going sort of person.

Jane's cynicism is based on the fact that all the people who should have been there for her have let her down in one way or another. Daria's "softness" is based on the fact that, despite her complaints, her family has always been there for her to fall back on. But by the same token, this means that Jane is less willing to reject than is Daria.

Jane would be more easily approachable than Daria, either in a friendly or a romantic sense. She does have high standards of her own, but she's more willing to give people a chance than is Daria.

Sincerely Yours, Jordan --
Daniel DeyMMan37x

"MMan37x" wrote in message news:[email]...

Ugh! I didn't want to do this, but before this thread becomes part of Google Beta thus becoming inaccessible to me, I'll try to answer these questions.

Nobody, probably.

Daria, Quinn, Brittany, and this cute blonde extra who usually wears a green dress, the one in "Lucky Strike," who was holding her head up near that poster of Martin Luther King Jr., although that other one in Green with the blue stripe across her breasts is cute too.Unfortunately, my crush would be as productive as Upchuck.

Sandi, Robert, Kevin, Corey,

Well, being that I was never fond of school, I'd say everybody would be my least favorite, even the good ones.

I doubt I'd hang out anywhere. Considering that it's the early 1980's I might try a former post office that was converted into local deli with a small arcade in the back, but I'd suck at the video games just like I do now...that is when I'm not out writing graffitti, or trashing the property of my enemies.

Nothing orchestrated by the school, that's for sure. More than likely, I'd be concentrating on my own artwork. Hopefully, the Lawndale P.T.A wouldn't crush my career ambitions under the pretense of "preventing me from throwing away my future," as easily as my real school system did.

D. T. Dey

Daniel DeyMMan37x

"MMan37x" wrote in message news:[email]...

Ugh! I didn't want to do this, but before this thread becomes part of Google Beta thus becoming inaccessible to me, I'll try to answer these questions.

Nobody, probably.

Daria, Quinn, Brittany, and this cute blonde extra who usually wears a green dress, the one in "Lucky Strike," who was holding her head up near that poster of Martin Luther King Jr., although that other one in Green with the blue stripe across her breasts is cute too.Unfortunately, my crush would be as productive as Upchuck.

Sandi, Robert, Kevin, Corey, a few others I forget.

Well, being that I was never fond of school, I'd say everybody would be my least favorite, even the good ones.

I doubt I'd hang out anywhere. I might be curous about The Zen, if I thought I could get in, which I'd have doubts about.

Nothing orchestrated by the school, that's for sure. More than likely, I'd be concentrating on my own artwork. Hopefully, the Lawndale P.T.A wouldn't crush my career ambitions under the pretense of "preventing me from throwing away my future," as easily as my real school system did.

D. T. Dey

Made4StageMMan37x

In article , [email] (MMan37x) writes:

Scary

Hang out with: Of there's a drama club I'd hang out with them. I might be friends with Jane, but I could never approach her or Daria myself, I'm damn shy.

Crush on: No one I can think of

Hate: No hate, just dislike, and that would apply to most of the LHS students

Fav: Ms.Barch. I'd just love to see upchuck get in trouble with her.

Least Fav: O'Neil (he's a pansy), and Manson (she's not a teacher, but she's just so -- I don't know I just hate her!)

Hang out: Pizza place, library, the Zon.

Activities: I'd only to Drama Club

Made4StageMMan37x

In article , [email] (MMan37x) writes:

Scary

Hang out with: Of there's a drama club I'd hang out with them. I might be friends with Jane, but I could never approach her or Daria myself, I'm damn shy.

Crush on: No one I can think of

Hate: No hate, just dislike, and that would apply to most of the LHS students

Fav: Ms.Barch. I'd just love to see upchuck get in trouble with her.

Least Fav: O'Neil (he's a pansy), and Manson (she's not a teacher, but she's just so -- I don't know I just hate her!)

Hang out: Pizza place, library, the Zon.

Activities: I'd only to Drama Club