Not going to happen

Might as well be the first to say it... The VJ introducing the requested episodes said Trent and Daria are NOT going to get together.

On 30 Aug 1998 01:15:36 GMT, [email] (Morgan) wrote:

At least someone at MTV Productions has some sense. Leave the Daria/Trent hook-ups in the fan fiction where it belongs. The crush factor is entertaining enough for the "canonical" episodes.

Martin (To send E-mail, remove the "nospam" from my E-mail address.) ---- Quinn: You kids know where Grandma's TV is. Go watch something educational. TV: "Breast implants for chickens???" Quinn & Daria: Not that!!

[email] (Morgan) wrote:

Thank whatever gods exist for that. I can't imagine a poorer match.

I've always had trouble understanding why she has the throbs for him at all. I'm acquainted with utterly irrational attractions, but I've seen no other aspects of Daria's personality that would make it plausible for her to suffer them. - - Jonathan Sachs Sand River Software, Inc. To email me, replace the 'x' with an 'a'.

In article , [email] wrote:

He's got the alienation vibe that Daria shares, dig?

• TDH

P.S. And, if you haven't noticed, many females that relate to Daria also think he's a babe.

In article , [email] (Gen koala) wrote:

Could you repeat that in English?

Thanks,

TDH

Jonathan wrote: "I've always had trouble understanding why she has the throbs for him at all."

Umm, maybe because he's gorgeous and cool, he plays the guitar, has a sexy voice, and pretty much embodies everything a socially outcast teenage girl like Daria looks for in a crush. It's not like she thinks they're ever gonna have a relationship; she's well aware that her infatuation will amount to nothing.

Interesting perspective... what bothers me is that they're opposites in so many ways that are central to Daria's values. The opinions of others are near the top in Trent's counter-cultural scale of values; near the bottom in Daria's. She jokes about his laziness, but it ought to be fatal to any sense of respect she might feel toward him. I could never have a crush on somebody I didn't respect. Could you? - - Jonathan Sachs Sand River Software, Inc. To email me, replace the 'x' with an 'a'.

I think that maybe there's a bit too much oversimplification there re: Trent's character. He never really struck me as anyone who gave a nickel about what anyone thought about what he did, or else he would've gotten a job in a toll booth rather than move back in with the parents. While he may care about the opinions of his *friends*, he never really struck me as a herd member.

As for laziness, well, that's a relative term. He works hard on what's important to him, his hours are just all screwed up. I have a few friends that have been in various bands (and I was a musician myself in college), and believe me, most musicians keep weird hours. If a gig runs late, you can wind up home as late as 4 am, depending on the gig. Even if you could get to sleep right away, you'd still need to sleep til noon to get your "beauty sleep."

As for respect, well, that's relative to a lot of things. I don't judge people's character flaws or quirks too heavily, because I'm pretty darn quirky m'self. Quirks are just someone else's way of coping.

Quirkin' down lunch, rich.

Jake: I love camping! I love it! ... Has anybody seen my pants?

I respect your very different interpretations of Trent's character on most of those items, but on one, I think you missed the point.

That's exactly it! Trent is the opposite of a herd member. He keeps just as close an eye on herd behavior as Quinn does, but where Quinn tries to stay in the center of the herd, Trent tries to go in the opposite direction. Daria, on the other hand, is true non-conformist. She goes her own way regardless of what the herd is doing.

	"Whether you are going toward Mishnory or
	away from it, you are still on the Mishnory road."
			Ursula le Guin, The Left Hand of Darkness
- -
Jonathan Sachs
Sand River Software, Inc.
To email me, replace the 'x' with an 'a'.

Yeah, I saw that too. Why does every show have to have a dang love story? That's the beauty of Daria... I wouldn't mind it if Trent and Daria stayed the way they were in their relationship. They talk, they joke around, it's cool.

Scottygal wrote: That's the beauty of Daria... I wouldn't mind it if Trent and Daria stayed the way they were in their relationship. They talk, they joke around, it's cool.

Exactly; we all know how annoying it was in "Moonlighting" (come on -I *know* you watched it too), the way when Bruce and Cybill (can't remember the characters' names) got together, the show just got progressively crapper - and sexual tension is far more entertaining (as Fox and Dana can vouch) than a soppy boyfriend/girlfriend thing.

Shaz

Completely. If there's one thing Daria isn't, it's soppy... thank God! Besides, Trent's waaay too into Myystic Spiral (although they might change their name) to even think about a girlfriend. Not to mention what a D/T relationship would do to Daria and Jane's friendship.

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This would be interesting. After all the work Jane has put into hooking those two up, what would happen if they got together, and then started neglecting HER?

Jane would rebel, join the track team, and run to Guatamala to join her sister Penny..... that would make for an odd fanfic....

ScottyGal2 wrote:

Just what *is* Jane's take on the whole thing? She seemed to pick up on Daria's attraction before Daria even did, and then kind of forced it. In "The Road Worrier" she's trying to get Daria and Trent together ("Why don't you sit up front?"), or at least get Daria to open up, but then in "Pierce Me" she's suddenly jealous and suspicious. It was hilarious to watch her stare at Trent on the phone, setting down her glass, leaving, coming back, picking it up, but then when she redialed and heard Daria's voice, her reaction was what? Shock? Anger? Confusion? They never really came back to it.

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I was thinking surprise. As in, "He actually *called* her?!? And was being secretive about it?!?"

Jim Loats

Peace Electric wrote:

Jane was not jealous, and hardly angry. She was curious because Trent was acting suspiciously--holding the phone and not talking--and quite surprised when she found out who Trent was talking TO. ("Rrrrrrrrrredial!")

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"Moonlighting" is the classic exapmle of a show gone horribly wrong because the writers succumbed to the "Aw, just let 'em get together!" crowd. By the way, I'll admit to watching "Moonlighting" religiously as a lad... My favorite episode was the parody of "Taming of the Shrew." Their names were Dave and Maddie, FWIW.

I was also a big fan of "Lois and Clark," and it achieved its best ratings when Lois and Clark were dancing all around getting together. And the season they got married was, in fact, their last season.

Tying it all back in to "Daria"... While I don't see Ananda Lewis as an expert as to what's going on in the heads of "Daria's" writers, I hope she was right. I'm glad to see such faith by you guys in the writers of "Daria," but history tells us that letting romantic tension (I refuse to call it "sexual tension" in Daria's case) be resolved is a Bad Thing.

Chris Majors