Daria video in UK now

Just to let anyone interested know that I have on my desk the Daria video; I collected it from Virgin this afternoon.

It cost me UKP8.99; the certificate is PG; and the number, VHR4671. The episodes on the video are, "Esteemsters," "The Invitation," and "College Bored."

I know what I'll be doing at about 9.30 tonight...

Martin.

Martin Sylvester wrote in message ...

Thanks, i`m off to the shops now!

Paul gate wrote:

It's too bloody cold to go to the shops now! Besides, I'm broke. I don't even have enough money for the bus fare!

Alli

endless, nameless wrote in message ...

Ahaa aha eventual success The main barrier for me wasn`t the cold, but communicating my wishes to the little chap behind the counter, over the music "HAVE YOU GOT ANY DARIA VIDEOS?" "ANY WHAT?" blank expression "DARIA!!" "DARIO?, lets see" (types DARIO into his computer) "No", I say, "DARIA" then he changes the "R" to an "M" (DAMIO)

Sigh, Its still not very well known in the UK. Several failed attempts later I got him to put in the right word And bingo, they had a copy

Yep now i can watch daria without realplayer "jerkovision" Yippee :-))))

Paul gate of UUNET writes:

But what if it had been your family buying it and they didn't know the difference? Just imagine the nightmare of opening your presents on Christmas day only to find you've been bought a Mario brothers video by mistake!

Here's a tip: write it down folks!

Dear Santa, I want a Daria video for Christmas.

-Shez.

Shez wrote in message ...

Shhhhhh!! Are you happy now, you`ve spoilt the magic of christmas for the countless children that regularly post and lurk on this newsgroup. I hope you are ready to accept the social fallout of all these children turning into delinquents because they no longer believe in Santa.

Santa is the only thing that stands between us and anarchy If you undermine Santa you undermine civilization

Paul gate wrote in message ...

<bg> How many *Daria* viewers, whatever their age, believe in Santa?

Kudos to c5 media sales for managing to sell the ads around Daria to firms selling toys for the 3-9 age group. Can't see that being the peak audience! ("We can give you a nice slot round a cartoon on Sunday morning. You know how the little ones love cartoons! Called? Oh, it's called Daria. It's about a little girl's adventures at school. Great, that's 13 slots to advertise My Plastic Pony.")

I love the willingness of the Daria writers to include references that many
would think too obscure for a cartoon, eg:
   Daria: "What does not kill us, makes us stronger."
   Brittany: Is that from a song?

Coming soon, "Nietchze - the Musical," by Andrew Lloyd Webber.

Yep, giving children an early experience of realising that their parents, and conspiring adults, have been deceiving them the whole of their lives contributes so much to civilisation as we know it.

Martin.

Martin Sylvester wrote in message ...

Children don`t seem to beleive in santa at all these days I remember having arguments about this when i was a kid (6 or 7) "Does Santa exist" discusions. I don`t think kids are that clueless nowadays.:-). Good thing/bad thing? I dunno

Hey thats an idea How about a Daria doll with no moving arms ect and no accessories and when you pull the little string in its back it says "Go to hell!" or "Don`t you feel this purchase was a little jeuvenile?" or "Please return me and get a refund, i was happier in the shop" or "Please don`t pull that string again" or "Christmas comes but once a year, oh goody"

WWNS in response to Brittany complaining about a wet tray ;-)

Daria`s character is the main draw for me i think its the only TV show that deals in any way with the issue of internal honesty, Daria is extraordinarialy Internaly consistent. she is living completely within her OWN perceptions. She is true freedom exemplified! Not just the freedom to do stuff, any idiot can grab that, but the subtler freedom "not to do" she has taken the freedom to stand innactive blinking in the world and say "what has this got to do with me?" All her sarcasm comes from an internaly consistent position ...she is not trying to impress or amuse others and her character is not used as a vehicle for "jokes" (thank goodness). My hat is off to the writer/s for having the bravery and commitment not to take an easy route with Daria and make her a vehicle for popular comedy. It would have been so easy to "sell Daria out" ie Take your eyes of the ball for half a second during discussion with management and splat Daria would just be "another cartoon" :-(( It must have been a tough call to decide to make something that they know is only going to appeal to a minority. By holding their ground and keeping Daria`s CHARACTER the main theme they have created something very valuable that simply has no peers.

Paul gate of UUNET writes:

Or "Stop yanking my chain"

I like the idea of no moving parts, it would make it very lifelike. Would the clothes be part of the moulding though, to stop perverts getting Daria naked? I remember there was controversy about that Barbie song as the lyrics went on about undressing the doll. Yet that's what kids do with dolls, it's the whole point of them, dressing and undressing them, but seen from an adult perspective it takes on a whole different meaning.

I remember hearing that a Sabrina doll had been marketed, and Melissa Joan Hart got kind of freaked out about it as she saw some guys from her tv crew undressing one. Then she went on a chat show and the host took this Sabrina doll, which has one hand waving or casting a spell or something, and broke all but one of the fingers off so that it was now making a rude gesture. I hope she doesn't believe in voodoo!

Hey, what we need is dolls of the fashion club members. Then we could stick pins in them.

Yeah, look what they did to the Addams Family when they made it into a cartoon. Wednesday smiles the whole time! I couldn't believe that they would do something so crass, it makes the whole thing pointless. I think I watched maybe one minute of one episode and then vowed never to watch it again, I mean it wasn't like she was smiling to creep people out or anything.

-Shez.

Shez wrote in message ...

Removable clothes seems a bit risky to me. Not only are there the moral dangers, but also there is the possibility that somebody "peculiar" might dress her up in Cindies clothes. In addition i feel her dress should be "filled in" so perverts and the such cant peek up it or make her do handstands ect. Also to protect public morals further the doll should have images of sturdy, practical underwear indelibly screenprinted onto her body

Why do they have to make everything so "nice"!!?? Wednesday was a charming little psychopath. I have no idea what this new cartoon is like but the whole idea of Wednesday relied on her inscrutable disturbing malice, not her happy go lucky "girl scout" friendliness. Have these people ever met kids!!? gee wiz!

Paul gate of UUNET writes:

I don't believe Daria would wear sturdy practical underwear. She might be inscrutible but she has the hots for Trent, she's a young woman as well as a weirdo, she would probably wear the same sort of knickers as most girls her age.

-Shez.

Shez wrote in message ...

Daria is as fond of pretty underwear as the rest of us :-)) I was thinking about the moral issues of a "Daria doll" though Whats all this "weirdo" business, Daria isn`t a "weirdo", is she? She just has a well established sense of self, perhaps thats a little weird?

Paul gate of UUNET writes:

She must be a weirdo or I wouldn't like her. I can't imagine liking a normal person.

-Shez.

"Paul gate" wrote:

Either I'm more tweeked than I thought I was or you folks are a bunch of prudes. If there is going to be a line of Daria dolls I think it should include all the major players. Plus all the outlandish outfits that are shown in the sidebar at the end of the show. Ummm... Baywatch Daria!

I've *got* to stop thinking like this.

[email] wrote in message ...

But not than we thought. <g>

Or Paul has just yanked your chain! We need a new smiley (frowny?) for sarcasm, 'cos it's not unknown in the ng.

The time to get *really* worried is when you start thinking of Baywatch Ms Barch. <shudder>

Martin.

Martin Sylvester wrote in message ...

oops! I suppose the spirit in which that was written wasn`t very clear at all. As for a sarcasm or "tounge in cheek" smiley, has this one been commandered?....... " :-} "

"Paul gate" wrote: <practicing random acts of snippage>

Oh no, the tone was quite clear. I just tried to reply in kind.

[email] wrote in message ...

Thanks for trying, i`m a bit of a newbie, not very sure of the rules yet

In article , "Martin Sylvester" wrote:

     ,:}     ;}     ':)

How do get a smiley to raise an eyebrow...?

[From the darkness, a whisper: "Baywatch Mr O'Neill..."]

[email] wrote in message ...

;:-|    ;8-]     ;:-)    might do it?

Or :-/ 8-/ for a sideways smile?

Ms

Whoever whispered that, get help, now!

Martin.

Paul gate wrote in message ...

<chuckle> There could be a whole range.

Mr DeMartino: "I suppose you expect me to SAY something AMUSING!"

comedy.

Endorsed!

   Daria: I had to resign on ethical grounds.
   Helen: Again?

If only some politicians had been influenced by Daria... ;-)

Martin.

I notice the video has a PG rating.

The nice thing about Daria on C5 is that you can have your PDC video turn it on as it starts, and then you can turn it off the moment it finishes, and because there's no ad. break you don't have to suffer a single plastic pony advert.

-Shez.

Shez wrote in message ...

That's if your c5 signal is good enough to rely on the PDC datastream being correctly interpreted. 8-( I don't use PDC on c5 now.

Martin.

In article ,

Sunday (and Saturday) mornings are traditionally kid's TV slots...

That's simply because there's nothing in it to warrant a higher rating... I still wouldn't show it to little kids, as they just wouldn't apprecaite it...

(What cert is "Casablanca"? PG? U? Erat Demonstrandum...)

Got to love obscure references. Especially to make things interesting rewatching them since there haven't been any new ones for a while. Oh, and noticing things written on the board.. like I just noticed "The Dharma Bums" by Jack Kerouac on a list of books. Cool.

OK, that's just weird. But strangely cool, because it's weird. Or maybe it's just my lack of sleep. And I somehow think Daria and Nietzsche (note: correct spelling! three years of German accomplished something, besides knowing how to say in German "Oh my God! They killed Kenny"- "Ach mein Gott! Sie toetet Kenny!", which used to be in my sig) somehow go together. Especially in Zarathustra's prologue when it's all about how they do not understand him- I am not the mouth for these ears! Must one first shatter their ears to teach them to hear with their eyes? Or do they believe only those who stammer? ... Wow, I remember that bit, I performed it in Forensics so that I could both confuse AND insult the class. As opposed to just confuse like I did with the Spike Milligan poems.

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Paul gate wrote in message ...

Yes, I second that sentiment! To my ears, the sound quality on the video seems better than on c5 (and the picture quality is undoubtedly better than my c5 reception).

I hadn't noticed when I saw "The Invitation" on air that in one shot Jane's black tights disappear. It's the scene when they're at the security cabin, asking questions of incoming car drivers. Watch out for the third person ("I can name that tune in three notes."): Jane's legs are bare between her shorts and the barrier support in the foregound. Back to black the next time she's in shot. Visual joke? (These actresses will change their costumes between shots! Continuity should have spotted it and stopped the take.) 8-)

The same thing happens, bizarrely, in the Pizza-house scene at the end of "College Bored". Two of the two-shots of Daria & Jane at the table, black legs; the other one, flesh legs. Now I'm going to be watching out in every episode to see if this is a running gag!

<Waits to be told, "Everyone knows about that, it's been discussed here again and again before you turned up.">

I noticed that in the scene in "College Bored" where Brittany is daydreaming (sorry, focussing on her goals and aspirations), the background music as Kevin is led away by Security is from "Female of the Species" by Space. Director's comment on Brittany, or is it her soundtrack to her fantasy? Is Brittany's self-image that of a deadly female?

Martin.

Martin Sylvester wrote in message ...

I can`t get C5 at all, being out in the "backwoods" of surrey ??!!?? (puzzled look, checks map)

Yep they take their little japes very seriously, those two If your gonna have some fun at other peoples expense, its worth dressing up for it ;-)

i`m not shure but I don`t think Brittany is bright enough to daydream herself as dripping in deadly female energy, i think she would far rather be *nice* than deadly, i could be wrong here however Quinn on the other hand mmm???

I love the intro, its the first time i`ve seen it properly, It just doesn`t make any sense on realplayer because the scenes are too disjointed and delayed Daria reaching her hand up to stop a ball three seconds after it`s passed her, and giving the camera a disinterested sneer did make me laugh. Now *that`s* the way to play sport at school if only i had had the nerve at the time sigh, ahh regrets If only i was fifteen again.... and errr a girl?... whoops cough cough ?*?* ;-)

I wrote in message ...

I'm now strongly inclining to the view that this *is* a running gag. It happens in one of the shots in "Esteemsters," too. I'm not going to say in which scene! <wicked smile> It seems to me very unlikely that this is a real error, repeated in three episodes.

Now I won't be able to watch a single episode without looking out for the black legs / flesh legs gag.

Checked Dejanews, and didn't find anything. Hmmm....

Martin.

Okay, the whole disappearing tights thing is due mainly to the animation company used for most of the first season-- Plus One Animation. They didn't do great work in terms of continuity. In fact, there were a lot of mistakes in the first season eps. (For a list, check out, uh, hmm... maybe Outpost Daria has the list of mistakes up... I'm not sure.) But, anyway, LSS, the MTV Animation folks didn't want errors intentionally put in their show-- it just happens sometimes when you send your stuff overseas to be animated.

The current animation company they use, Rough Draft Korea, does *much* better work, and the number of inconsistencies has dropped significantly, while the look and feel of the toon has smoothed out considerably. (Good thing? Bad thing? I dunno.) RDK also does the animation for a number of other well-known cartoons as well, like Dexter's Lab, Cow & Chicken, and others on Cartoon Network...

Now you know.

rich.

"Martin Sylvester" wrote:

Daria: Sorry, with all of this animation, I thought I was on Nickelodeon for a moment.

Jane: You wish.

Daria: Tell me about it.

[email] wrote in message ...

Many thanks for the detailed and well-informed answer.

Showing my ignorance, I've not heard of either of those; the second one sounds like a brand of babyfood!

Sure do. And I'll be watching out for it in every episode I see!

Martin.

"Martin Sylvester" wrote:

You're welcome.

They're two very good cartoons on Cartoon Network. Cow and Chicken is probably best described as what would happen if someone had adopted a not-too-bright cow (named Cow) and a not-too-bright chicken (named Chicken). I guess you have to see it. Dexter's Laboratory is about a little boy genius who keeps a huge secret lab (think James Bond Villain) a secret from his parents, but not from his annoying (to him) older sister Deedee. Even though both toons have distinctly different styles, the RDK folks do a good job.

You know, you could just check out Outpost Daria or www.ssw.net (I think it's still up, even though it's not going to be updated-- ever) and look up each episode. The mistakes were noted by other obsessive viewers a loooong time ago. ;-)

rich.

Jane: Do the names Beavis and Butt-Head ring a bell?

Daria: Ding-Dork.

Plus, DeeDee looks acts and sounds like an 8 year old Brittany. AND, Brittany's little brother seems found of performing experiments.. twisted experiments, but experiments nonetheless.

In article , "Martin Sylvester" wrote:

Now I'm intrigued... Normally I'd pass off colour-flashing as carelessness on the part of the animation cel painters, but for it to occur in _three_ sequential episodes? These instances all occur on the episodes on the video, right?

"Why are you watching all those re-runs of Daria?" "I'm staring at Jane's legs..." "... O-o-o-ka-a-ay..." [backs away]

[email] wrote:

It happens in Road Worriers, too.

LOL!

Alli

In article , [email] wrote:

Hehehehe!

--- John Berry Yes, that's all I wrote; "Hehehehe!" You wanna make something of it?

endless, nameless wrote in message ...

My sympathies Alli Up untll now all i had seen was the realvision version Needless to say the whole thing springs even more to life with proper sound and without those 30 second delays ect ect. Brilliant

Daria is the BEES KNEES All hail Daria

endless, nameless wrote in message ...

Hard luck, Alli 8-(

But at least you know what to ask for, for your birthday next (this?) week! (Don't forget, you're sending me all the unwanted chocolate....) <g>

Martin.

(Oh, nearly forgot: Cold? Cold? You namby-pamby Southerners don't know what cold is! Why, we'd be in beachwear in weather you'd call cold. When I were a lad....) <g>

Martin Sylvester wrote:

Next week, yeah, the 16th. I'm not going to be getting much other than a guitar and amp, I'm afraid, and I have given everyone strict instructions to not buy me chocolate....although whether anyone will obey them is another matter entirely.....

It ain't my fault! I'm from Greece! Noone else here is as cold as me!

Alli

endless, nameless wrote in message ...

what

were a

And I thought you were from Hertfordshire!

Nver mind, you'll soon acclimatise, as long as you eat a hearty cooked breakfast every day, have the odd bread and dripping snack now and then (say, every forty minutes), and a black pudding before bedtime. Before long you'll be perfectly adapted for the British winter!

Subcutaneous fat: nature's woolly vest and trunks.

Next on Sick, Sad World: is our winter clothing industry being destroyed by food from Northern England?

Martin.

Martin Sylvester wrote:

Uck!

I've been through 10 of them, but I don't seem to be used to it yet.....

Alli

endless, nameless wrote in message ...

Wrong diet, that's all. Now, pass me that plate of pig's trotters: it's a hard winter coming on.

Martin.

On Tue, 8 Dec 1998 17:44:48 -0000, "Martin Sylvester" wrote:

Black pudding? Pig's trotters? I know i'm going to regret asking... What is black pudding and pig's trotters? Are onions involved?

- I once shot a man just to watch him die. Then I got distracted, and I missed it. -Dave Foley, the Kids In the Hall.

Happydude wrote in message ...

Black puddings are a bit like large black sausages They are mainly congealed blood Pigs trotters are um pigs feet Its hard to imagine a pigs trotter without onions occuring somewhere in the scenario they just seem to magicly appear from between the "toes", (oh my what a revolting thought)

On Mon, 7 Dec 1998 20:15:38 -0000, "Paul gate" wrote:

After reading your post I was going to make fun of British cuisine. Then I remembered the tons of Grade E tumor-infested beef that's consumed by americans each week in the form of hot dogs, slim-jims, and school cafeteria hamburgers.

Actually im not really sure what is in Slim-Jim's, it's mostly congealed.....something.

- I once shot a man just to watch him die. Then I got distracted, and I missed it. -Dave Foley, the Kids In the Hall.

Happydude wrote:

LOL. People do actually eat hot-dogs, hamburgers, etc, but *nobody* eats pig's trotters! (Noone that I've met, anyway.....) As far as I have seen, British cuisine consists of chips and curry.

What is a Slim-Jim anyway?

Alli

<SNIP>

I'll tell you if you tell me what chips and curry are. A Slim-Jim, ahem, is a long, thin stick of beef. It's spicy, and when you bite one, i supposedly snaps. Oh, and they're endorsed by professional wrestlers. Washed-up professional wrestlers.

CrtoonDude wrote:

Chips are, I believe, what the Americans call 'fries', ie, mushy potato sticks, essentially. Curry is Indian food with lots of spices and stuff. I hate it. It smells bad.

Are they the 'silence sticks' or whatever it was from that episode of King Of The Hill, where they go off and do all that stuff that the coloured guy told them about?

Alli

Exactly.

You haven't heard of curry? Chips are similar to what you call fries, only they're made from fingers of potato instead of extruded reconstituted potato. And the flat things you call chips, we call crisps. I don't really know how to describe curry. It's hot and runny, basically.

Fish & chips is the classic British takeaway, although apparently curry is now more popular. Apparently, some classic curries like the Balti were actually invented here and have now been exported to India, much like the American deep pan pizza has been exported to Italy.

-Shez.

Shez wrote:

At my local Indian take-out place (one of the few in northern California...heck, one of the few in *all* of California), you can get chicken or vegetarian curry. Curry is the sauce, it contains a lot of turmeric (which stains everything it touches bright yellow) and cumin (which has a distinctive spicy note, it's often used in chili as well), plus lots more exotic Eastern spices. It makes some people gag, but not me, I love it. Actually, perhaps my favourite dish I've ever had is the chicken in yellow curry with potatoes at the Thai House restaurant in San Francisco, the closest you can get to Heaven on Earth through food. ;-{)>

MIKE (a.k.a. "Progbear")

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Progbear wrote:

<snip>

We have loads of Indian restaurants around here. I think that's probably because in some areas around here, at least 90% of the population is Indian. A few years ago my class visited another school that's about 3 miles away, the other side of town, and we saw about, like, 5 white kids in the whole day there. It was rather odd to me at the time, because the schol I was attending then didn't have many people from ethnic minorities at all, I was one of about 10.

Alli

Lemon Curry?

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On Tue, 08 Dec 1998 21:53:06 -0800, "endless, nameless" wrote:

I posted an answer to this question about an hour ago but it hasnt shown up on my news server yet so here it is again. I apologize if I'm repeating myself.

There is no easy answer to that question. In short, it's 90% salty red grease 10% seasoned "meat" served in a narrow sausage casing. It can usually be found in convenience stores between the cash register and the beef-jerky (you don't want to know). A few years ago the Frito-Lay company came out with there own Slim-Jim clone, the main ingredients listed were "cow lips" and "pig hoofs". I usually avoid food with ingredient lists that contain the words "mechanically seperated"

- I once shot a man just to watch him die. Then I got distracted, and I missed it. -Dave Foley, the Kids In the Hall.

Happydude wrote:

Why not? What is it?

Ugh.....

Alli

endless, nameless wrote:

No one seems to know. "Beef jerky" is some sort of dessicated meat snack "treat". It looks kind of like freeze-dried bacon, has the texture of shoe leather and seems to have an indefinite shelf-life; displays of beef jerky in convenience stores look as though they have been completely undisturbed since the store opened. When you consider that the source of the meat is most assuredly from the less delectable parts of the cow, it shouldn't be a mystery as to why. ;-{)>

MIKE (a.k.a. "Progbear")

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[email] (Progbear) wrote:

jerky was one of those things that was a good idea before refrigeration, when you were driving your covered wagon across the plains, and didn't have anything to plug the Frigidaire into. but these days? it's just gross and unnecessarily so.

BTW, did anyone here ever buy one of those food dehydrators? you can use them to make your very own jerky! (the only question being, why the hell would anyone do *that*?)

jerkily, rich.

"The robot took my sandwich!" --Chester

On Wed, 09 Dec 1998 18:30:00 GMT, [email] ([email]) wrote:

I always enjoyed those Ronco dehydrator infomercials, I don't know why. Ron always had this demonic look about him and that woman always acted like it was the greatest invention since the wheel. The Idea of putting some perfectly good grapes in a dehydrator to make raisins is totally lost on me.

Ron: You can make jerky out of turkey! woman: Jerky out of turkey? R: Yes, turkey jerky. W: Ohh how clever, and it could save my family a lot of money.

I guess jerky was the only food she fed her family

Wasn't it Janeane Garofalo who did a meat rehydrator bit in her stand-up routine? She wanted to put beef jerky in the rehydrator and take a steak out after a few hours.

[email] wrote:

Yes, well...when's the last time you saw one of those commercials? Answered your own question, didn't you? ;-{)>

MIKE (a.k.a. "Progbear")

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You know, my mother got a dehydrator a few months ago. It was actually pretty cool for drying apples and stuff, those were good... then she made jerky... now, I don't actually eat any meat in the first place, let alone jerky, and everyone knows that, but her husband comes into the living room and waves the jerky RIGHT IN MY FACE saying "YOU WANT SOME???" I was about to have homocidal tendencies there.

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I like your article on British comedy. You really must see the Fast Show if it gets to the US. There was a rumour that it was going to be broadcast there under the name of "Brilliant!" (one of the character's catch-phrases).

-Shez.

I'll search around. I know it's not on PBS cuz our station sucks in terms of British Comedy... they just started showing Red Dwarf... I get BBC America but I need to get a new VCR to tape anything because our old one doesn't go up to channel 260 or whatever. And the only time my TV is available is between 3 and 4 PM when I watch Daria and occasionally "Pinky and the Brain" (during commercials/if Daria's not on) and "Histeria!" (if I have absolutely nothing better to do)

Glad you appreciated my British Comedy thing, I think I did pretty good with lineages and stuff... anyhow it was cool to be able to look at Monty Python and Goons sites in the school library and say "It's for a report!"

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Another classic, although I didn't like it at first. It didn't really catch on until it was into the second or third series. Thankfully the BBC don't have a do-or-die thing with ratings since they're not reliant on selling advertising slots, otherwise I suspect it would never have got beyond the first series.

Well I learned some stuff I didn't know. I knew Spike Milligan had written some of the stuff whilst in a mental hospital but I'd never wondered about how his parts got played in his absence. Peter Sellers would have been able to do then easily, he was a great mimic. Those films where he plays several parts, such as in Dr Strangelove, are amazing. I find that it doesn't even cross my mind that three characters are being played by the same actor in that film.

-Shez.

Eccles9697 wrote in message ...

Does anyone remember a Scottish comedy sketch show called "Absolutely" It was very funny .....but now its gone.....perhaps it`s wandering about in America?

Eccles9697 wrote in message ...

In case it interests you, Freeserve has a report on last night's British Comedy awards. It's a dynamic page, so if you follow the url after today (13 Dec GMT), it'll be gone! http://www.freeserve.net/entment/story0.htm I've snipped the text for anyone who wants it but misses the page (I chose not to post it here).

Highlights: Steve Coogan won three awards; he beat Paul Whitehouse from The Fast Show to win best BBC2/C4/c5 personality.

Mildly on topic: today's intro to Daria on c5 included a reference to Daria as "A pain in the butt!" Can't give a transcript (video failed to record), but I dare say that if asked nicely one of the other UK Darianites might oblige, if anyone actually wants to know!

Martin.

I'll check it out when I rerun the tape later. It was the rash episode today but I was still half asleep during the broadcast so I haven't watched it properly yet.

-Shez.

OK I'm missing the start of the C5 introduction to "Ill", but it ends

".. been struck down, and is really ill? Or will anyone care, as she is after all an absolute pain in the butt."

-Shez.

On Mon, 14 Dec 1998 01:11:46 +0000, Shez wrote:

Jeez... and I thought MTV was bad. At least they get the concept of the show, even if they can't be bothered to give it any promotion...

Martin (to send e-mail, remove the "nospam" from my e-mail address) ---- "Don't worry. Today it's brains, tomorrow pierced tongues, then the next day, pierced brains." - Jane Lane ---- Outpost Daria: Your Online Database for All Things Daria! http://systech.simplenet.com/daria/

"Martin J. Pollard" wrote:

NOTHING is as bad as C5! When the channel first started being aired, they had the Spice Girls at the opening ceremony thing, and it kinda went downhill from there.....

Alli

On Mon, 14 Dec 1998 23:40:29 +0000, "endless, nameless" wrote:

Out of curiosity, what type of station is C5?

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Kyle wrote:

A crappy one.

How thin is she? I've never actually watched the show. I'm going to have to go back to being called Alex if people are gonna associate me with her, even if that means that, about 5 years after the song was released, I still get people shouting "Alex? Who the fuck is Alex?" at me all the time in some pathetic take-off of that Alice song....

Alli

On Tue, 15 Dec 1998 00:11:56 +0000, "endless, nameless" wrote:

MTV doesn't seem to do as bad as C5 in their descriptions, but still, I forgot exactly what was said about the show today but something Carson Daily said about Daria pissed me off.

She [Calista Flockhart] wore a backless dress to the Emmy awards this year, you could literally see most of the bones in her back. Her spine shoulder blades, everything. Quite disturbing.

Happydude wrote:

So that's about as skinny as me, then. See, I knew I wasn't the only one with visible ribs!

Alli

On Tue, 15 Dec 1998 00:30:09 +0000, "endless, nameless" wrote:

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On Tue, 15 Dec 1998 00:11:56 +0000, "endless, nameless" wrote:

There has been much controversy over her obvious anorexia.

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It's the fifth national network in the UK. It's commercial. It was launched on 30 March 1997, and is owned by a consortium comprising Pearson, United News & Media plc, CLT/UFA, and Warburg, Pincus & Co. They paid UKP22,002,000 for the licence to run the network. (Source: website, see below).

Many smaller communities have poor or even no reception of c5 (it seems that their style sheet, ee cummings-like, eschews capitals, so it probably should be channel five, not Channel Five). Its viewer base is smaller than the others, as you'd expect, and its advertising revenue smaller than ITV or C4 (the other commercials). Its commissioned light entertainment programmes often show, in the eyes of some commentators, ahem, creative use of limited production budgets.

http://www.channel5.simplenet.com/

Martin.

Channel 5 is the latest (and last) new terrestrial network broadcaster, but it only covers random parts of the UK as there weren't enough spare frequency slots to fit it into all areas. It operates on a tiny budget in comparison to other stations, and is generally reckoned to be a good taster for what we can expect from the hundreds of new digital and satellite channels that will soon flood the airwaves, ie. it's crap.

To put it into context, we now have 5 terrestrial stations:

BBC1 - popular-type programmes.

BBC2 - intellectual and minority interest programmes, ie. quality TV

ITV (or "Channel 3") - popular crap lowbrow stuff. Has the biggest viewing figures and lowest audience IQ.

Channel 4 - Like BBC2 in some ways, it's charter obliges it to produce tv programmes that are different in nature to those carried by the other channels, in particular to cater for minority interests. It actually makes an awful lot of money despite it's small audience figures as advertisers love the affluent audience profile.

Channel 5 - Created to use up the spare broadcasting frequencies and (a) generate money for the government by way of the franchising fee, and (b) provide an outlet for TV advertisers. Oh, and as an afterthought it also broadcasts TV programmes.

The BBC is funded by am annual TV licence fee and so is free of ad breaks, whilst ITV, C4 and C5 are funded by adverts. Of all of them, probably only ITV and C5 could be compared to american networks though, the BBC and C4 operate under charters that set out what sort of things they exist to do.

-Shez.

I forgot to add that despite this, C5 is actually a damn sight better than ITV, despite probably operating on a tenth of the budget. The difference is that C5 is cheap and cheerful and doesn't pretend to be a quality channel (hence the weird intros like calling Daria a pain in the butt: no-one stands on ceremony at C5), whilst ITV pretends that it's good and puts an expensive and glossy look on everything. It's like going into some expensive looking jewellers only to find they only sell plastic jewellery. ITV's only strength is that it's Children's programmes have improved to the point that they're now on par with the BBC's output, but as far as I'm concerned ITV may as well close their transmitters down after 5pm and save energy.

The great thing about Channel 5 is that despite being mainly tat, once in a while they put out something really inspired. First it was Twin Peaks, which was long overdue for a re-run, and now it's Daria. I'm keeping my fingers crossed that they'll pick up My So-Called Life next, since C4 no longer have the UK rights to it. To my mind, C5's existence can be wholly justified simply by their having shown Twin Peaks and/or Daria.

-Shez.

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Sadly though, c5 only showed Series 1 of Twin Peaks. They also failed dismally to advertise the fact that they were showing it in the first place.

They still have the rights to the rest of TP, but as yet have no plans to show it. The last time I called (some months ago - I'm not bothering them every week!) they told me that the more people call to request it the more likely it is that they'll show it. Their Duty Office is on 0345 050505 (in the UK) - keep those calls coming to request Twin Peaks!

I may as well mention here, that when ITV was showing "Millennium" (the only remotely highbrow show they've ever had), they treated it even worse than C5 is treating "Daria". Absurd timeslots that changed every week, no promotion worth spreaking of, and each episode had to be introduced in a 'scary' voice. Thankfully (uh, I mean unfortunately), they dropped it with just a few episodes of season 1 left (before season 2 started and there was something really good for them to screw up), allowing Sky 1 to rerun the series.

And "The Incredible Hulk" with Bill Bixby and Lou Ferrigno! Both trashy and cerebral at the same time. But they show it way too early for me to watch it (9:30 am).

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I thought the C5 intros got into the spirit of the show rather well actually, by dissing Daria at every opportunity.

-Shez.

Tell me, did they leave in the "Go to Hell you reckless bastard!" scene this time? I was amazed that it was shown on its first run on C5.

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I don't know, I'll have to watch it again to find out. Who says it? I recall that when ITV first showed Sabrina, they left in a song which keeps referring to fannies ("Shake your whammy fanny"), something that cropped up in several episodes. But in the reruns they apparently excised all the fanny references, which must have involved quite a bit of butchery in the editing suite. (For the benefit of US readers I should note that in the UK "fanny" means, anatomically, "cunt", although it's considered a fairly inoffensive word.)

Returning to Daria, I don't think "Ill" is one of the best episodes, although it does show yet again that Daria fancies Trent, making me wonder about the planet of origin of the Amazon reviewer who claims she's a dyke who's actually in love with Jane. Actually Daria even seems to fancy the doctor, in fact it looked to me like he was hitting on her... It was funny how Quinn tries to muscle in and get his attentions but he gives her the brush off.

-Shez.

Jake, when he's driving to the school to pick up Daria. "Go to Hell you reckless bastard, my kid's got a rash! Oh, damn window's up! I said go to Hell you -- hey, get back here!"

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[Re #209 "Ill" on Channel 5:]

OK, I just saw the episode again, and he does indeed say that, in fact he almost says it twice.

The singer at the end of Ill sounded very familiar, and I suddenly realised it was the person who plays a homeless-girl-turned-angel in the Christmas My So-Called Life episode. At least I think it was her. She had become an angel as someone had stolen her only pair of boots as she slept, and it being Winter and her being homeless, she ended up freezing to death.

Isn't it nice that it's Christmas!

-Shez

I'm not sure if the other Channel 5 intros to Daria have been reported but I just noticed that the one for "Arts & Crass" is

"The question is, what do Van Gogh and Daria have in common? Answer: they're both manic depressives who like a spot of painting on the side."

-Shez.

Shez wrote:

Huh. I think I've already ranted about this before, but manic depression is VERY different to 'normal' depression. Daria is obviously not a manic depressive; she doesn't have 'highs' and 'lows' like manic depressives do. I don't even think she's a regular depressive, she's just disillusioned and a realist.

Alli

For some reason "manic" and "depressive" always get paired together in popular parlance, like that other non sequitur, "sex & violence".

I think Van Gogh was a manic depressive though, IIRC he painted during his manic phases. I'd need to look it up to be sure though. (Where's Gombrich when you need it?)

-Shez.

Shez wrote:

Huh. Strange how violence is so much easier to get than sex.

I'm pretty sure you're right on that, but I could be thinking of someone else.

Shez wrote:

I have seen a skit-comedy show on BBC America called "Brilliant!" Is this what you're talking about? Sort of a very British version of "Kids In The Hall" minus [most] of the gay sensibility.

MIKE (a.k.a. "Progbear")

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It might be, but I don't know what Kids In The Hall is. The Fast Show is a diverse set of sketches, such as Unlucky Alf (an old age pensioner who says something like "I thought I would do X but knowing my luck something'll go wrong" (and it always does)), a couple of salesmen in a tailor's who make suggestive comments to a customer ("ooh, suits you sir!"), a smug middle class man who makes light of his impossibly successful life: "and then last week we won _another_ million pounds on the lottery! ... which was nice." My own favourite used to the Chanel 9 News one, a news broadcast from some unidentified Latin country conducted entirely in a nonsense language in which borrowed English words crop up in absurd contexts. The whole style of the news studio and presenters is quintessentially 70's, like the place is in a time warp. And the weather forecast is always the same: a sunny 40 degrees: "Scorchio".

Boutros, boutros, ghali. -Shez.

Shez wrote:

Why, you simply *must* find out! "The Kids In The Hall" was a brilliant five-man (Bruce McCulloch, Mark McKinney, Scott Thompson, Dave Foley and Kevin McDonald) Canadian sketch comedy troupe. They're perhaps best-known for doing a lot of drag, but it wasn't Monty Python-esque "put on a dress and screech" drag, they were actually pretty convincing women! (Kevin McDonald was probably the most convincing at *acting* female, while Dave Foley, because of his baby-face, was probably the most convincing at *looking* female.) Because of this, and because cast-member Scott Thompson was openly gay, all the guys were presumed to be gay by many. They're superstars in Canada, and have an ardent cult following in the U.S. (there are even a few British fans). Some of their best known characters:

   Buddy Cole- Scott Thompson's effeminate gay bar-fly character, whose many
monologues are probably the most popular feature of the show. Buddy delights in
messing with the collective head of straight society.
   The Chicken Lady- Played by Mark McKinney. She's a circus freak, a woman
with white feathers, a yellow beak for a nose and big yellow chicken legs. She
has the brain the size of a walnut and is obsessed with sex.
   Gavin- Played by Bruce McCulloch. An annoying little kid with glasses. He's
obsessed with trivia and has a distinctive cadence to his voice.
   Mr. Tizzik- A.k.a. "The Headcrusher". Played by Mark McKinney. A, shall we
say, schizotypal fellow with some sort of indistinguishable heavy European
accent. He seems to hate everyone, and delights in sitting at a distance from
people and apparently "crushing" their head between his two fingers. So, now if
you should come across some Canadian youth shrieking "I'm crrrushing your head!
I'm crushing your head!", you'll understand the reference. ;-{)>

Yes, that's the one. I love that show! I rather wish we got BBC America here.

MIKE (a.k.a. "Progbear")

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[email] (Progbear) wrote:

You forgot Paul Bellini! (played by Paul Bellini.) And a happy Bellini Day to the other KITH fans. Remember: "Bellini taught us to see the beauty in the mediocre, because there's so much of it."

And, of course, oh, shoot, I forgot Kevin's character's name, but I remember Dave Foley as "Manservant Hecubus." "Eeeevil! I'm eeeevilll!"

And, of course, the ads for poo. (Who could forget those? "Everybody loves poo!")

And the Flying Pig, helping to entertain people at line-ups until he accidentally flew into a high-tension power line and got barbecued.

And, of course, Cabbagehead, a misogynistic (sp? my dictionary is still packed away) guy with a cabbage for a head, who tried to score by getting pity for his cabbage head.

And AT&Love, and... well, you get the idea. Seriously funny stuff. I wish they'd show em on Comedy Central again.

off-topic, but if everyone else can do it, so can I, rich.

Brittany: Shut up, naked boy!

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Well, hey, you've been missing out...I know I saw it on Comedy Central just last week...I don't know if they've been given a regular time-slot or not (If they have, I'm hoping it replaces the repulsive "Make me Laugh".), but look for it weekday afternoons.

[email] wrote:

Yes...I think "The Phone Show" in which they announced the "Touch Paul Bellini Contest" must have been one of the first episodes I ever saw. That one *also* contained the Sizzler Sisters...and because of the repeated use of the word "prick" in a non-verbal sense, was heavily censored when not on HBO.

Sir Simon Milligan! And his show, "The Pit Of Ultimate Darkness"! "Evil! Evil! Impolite and evil!" ;-{)>

With, of course, Bruce McCulloch as the Poo Guy. "You know, just once I wish people would think a little before they shout out, 'HEY! POO GUY!'" [points at butt]

You realize that's considered by many to be the *worst* recurring character on KITH. But I did find the cooked Flying Pig with the frozen expression to be completely hilarious.

Yeah, almost mentioned him. He was there from the beginning, and they retired him early (I guess Bruce got sick of playing him. There is that one skit in which Shona the militant lesbian-- also played by Bruce-- shoots him through the head...I think it's the last one. A Bruce character killing off another Bruce character...hmm...you think he's trying to tell us something?)

Oh, but they do! Turn on your television at 3 PM weekdays!

MIKE (a.k.a. "Progbear")

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On Sun, 13 Dec 1998 19:28:10 +0000, Shez wrote:

The Kids in the Hall was a canadian sketch comedy show. Since there were no women in the group the memebers were forced to play all the female parts themselves (many members were thought to be gay because of it, Scott Thompson was the only homosexual in the group.) They split up a few years ago and moved on to there own projects. Dave Foley currently stars in Newsradio, Scott Thompson was on the Larry Sanders Show and occasionally appears on Late Night with Conan O'Brien. Mark McKinney was a regular on Saturday Night Live and appeared in (*shudder*) the Spice Girls movie.

We could really use some kind of cultural exchange channel between our 2 nations. The most recent samples of british television in the states are Absolutly Fabulous (the same 6 or 7 episodes ad nauseum) and Bob and Margaret on Comedy Central. Maybe in exchange for the Fast Show we could give you the Upright Citizen's Brigade or the Daily Show.

Here's a little sample from the UCB archives. Please forgive me for what you are about to read.

golfer#1 "how does sticking pennies up my ass give me an edge?" golfer#2 "you dont just stick them up your ass, you spend them. Like I said it's a long term strategy. I've been doing this for 11 years now. Every day now for 11 years ive stuck $30 worth of pennies up my ass. I use them for everything; cab rides, movie theaters, groceries." g1: "what does that accomplish?" g2: "will you listen. That's a lot of asspennies I have out there, my friend. When I meet with someone who intimidates me, who puts me on edge, a real "hard-ass." I think to myself 'they've probably handled one of my asspennies' in fact they probably have one in there pocket right now. That just sort of gives me the upper hand. I mean, hey I havent touched anything that's been in their ass. Do you have any change in your pockets?" g1: "why?" g2: "take it out and take a good look at it.... Oh my that's a lot of pennies. I've been sticking 30 dollars in pennies in my ass for 11 years now. That's 3000 pennies a day, 21000 pennies a week, 1,092,000 a year, to date it's 12,012,000 pennies. 8 times the population of Nebraska. Those pennies have been up my ass. You think your better than me? Well your not better than me. You handle my asspennies every day, you pick up my asspennies for good luck, you throw my asspennies in fountains and make wishes on them, you give my asspennies to you daughter to buy gum-balls."

Again, I'm sorry.

No, really, you don't want to know.

On Wed, 09 Dec 1998 00:05:58 -0800, "endless, nameless" wrote:

` Take a Slim-Jim, remove the plastic wrap, set it in the middle of a busy sidewalk until it is flattened. Leave it there for a few days to let the sun dehydrate it. What is left is a strip of meat about 6 inches long, 1 inch wide and 2mm thick. It has a leathery texture and is called "jerky" because the only way to get a bite of it is to grab it beetween your teeth and try to tear a piece off without losing any teeth. If you can tear a piece off you'll end up chewing on it for an hour at least. I told you that you wouldn't want to know.

- I once shot a man just to watch him die. Then I got distracted, and I missed it. -Dave Foley, the Kids In the Hall.

Well, to quote Billy Crystal from the movie "City Slickers":

"Well, you take a really nice, juicy, very rich, expensive piece of meat.. and you let a New York cab driver sit on it for about 3 months."

i work at a drugstore that has a food aisle. we carry a product thats called "potted meat food product". its next to the spam and those nasty penis looking sausages in the can. one of the ingredients is mechanically separated chicken. which i think would be a great name for a band, if im ever i one. Saerah

AniSaerah wrote:

Made by Libby's. You know, in one of William Poundstone's books, he tells you *exactly* what's in that. And you *really* don't want to know! %-{)> Even more disgusting than the "Canned Whole Chicken".

Vienna sausage! I used to eat those like they were going out of style when I was a kid. What was wrong with me?

Even better than "Helpful Corn"? ;-{)>

MIKE (a.k.a. "Progbear")

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endless, nameless wrote in message ...

They were regarded as traditional fare of the poor in the North of England and the Midlands, providing a cheap source of meat. In this eclectic ng, I wouldn't be suprised to see further details posted by someone studying the social history of food!

Aaargh! Steak and kidney pie! The english breakfast. And fish (not any fish, only fresh Grimsby fish) and chips! Pub lunches....

You are right, though: ISTR that curry is now the most popular meal eaten outside the home. Perhaps being an island makes us more adventurous in our food, or perhaps it the globalisation of culture. Whatever, there's been a rapid integration of "ethnic" dishes into the culinary mainstream. Who'd bat an eyelid now about going for a kebab? I'd think it weird to be in a town where I couldn't go out for pizza, kebab, an Indian meal, a Chinese meal, fish & chips, Italian...

You can travel the world by smell if you drive round the industrial estates here in Grimsby, with their frozen food plants and ready meal factories.

Martin Sylvester wrote:

Well, I've only been up north once, and I never ate any pig's feet or whatever it was.....but then again, we were on a school trip and we were staying in an army barracks, where I doubt they'd give you pig feet....

English breakfast, as far as I'm concerned, consists of a glass of water, vitamin tablets and a Nutri-grain.

Maybe it's 'cos the English had a load of colonies and stuff and India was part of that Empire thing....I really know very little about this, I'm afraid.

LOL. Right....

Alli

Army Barracks? Do you by chance know a Ms. Li?

CrtoonDude wrote:

Hehehe. I don't know why they put us there, all the girls had to use the men's toilets because there were no women's ones, and the soldiers kept doing target practice at 4am, waking everyone except me.....

Alli

endless, nameless wrote in message ...

The tense is important! 8-)

Not to eat, anyway.

<sobs> No wonder you're cold!

Fruit juice, cereal, grapefruit; Bacon, sausages, eggs, fried bread, mushrooms, tomatoes, black pudding, baked beans (and devilled kidneys and kedgeree if you're really pushing the boat out); toast, butter, marmalade, tea.

Of course, I just have muesli, banana, and a bucket of tea. Except on holiday! <g>

Martin.

Martin Sylvester wrote:

Ah yes. So, people have higher standards now, and have instead turned to eating burgers and 'slim-jims', which is equally sick.

Huh?

What's with the sob? I could eat more if I got up earlier, but I'm much too lazy for that. At the weekend, I don't bother with breakfast, nothing is going to get me out of bed on a Saturday morning! :)

That's a week's food for me (with enough left over to feed the five thousand)!

Do you drink the tea straight out of the bucket? My dad drinks coffee out of a pint mug, I guess that's almost as bad!

Alli

endless, nameless wrote in message ...

<g> Yes, why cook a natural product when you can have it mechanically processed, mixed with other unspecified foodstuffs, flavourings, colourings, preservatives and antioxidants, then frozen or vacuum packed, and stored for a while before you eat it?

Seeing the words "English breakfast," "water," and "nutri-grain" in the same sentence. 8-)

Martin.

Martin Sylvester wrote:

Uck....

My doctor told me I should drink milk instead, but I don't. The milk in our house is usually frozen anyway, dad keeps putting the bottles at the back of the fridge and occasionally one of the bottles will shatter when you take it out and put it down somewhere.

Alli

Not just "nutrigrain" but "a nutrigrain". But it's ok really, at weekends Alli has been known to have something more traditional for breakfast, like a cornflake.

-Shez.

<sigh> and you're afraid we would think you look like a cow. or maybe that was somone else. In any case, breakfast is the most important meal of the day. And food is the only reason I do get out of bed on Saturday. Doughnuts, mmmmmmm.....

muesli?

Bucket? What? I mean, i knew that pretty much everyone in the UK drank tea, but a bucket? Really?

CrtoonDude wrote in message ...

Dried things that are hard to identify, healthy people swear by it. Its similar to the stuff you find behind an old fridge.

Ick.

CrtoonDude wrote in message ...

"Oat flakes (27%), Sultanas (18%), Wheat flakes (18%), Raisins (13%), Barley flakes (4%), Sweetened banana (4%), Coconut (3%), Apricots (3%), Roasted Hazelnuts (2%), Flaked Brazil nuts (2%), Sunflowers seeds (1%), Malt extract, Preservative E220." It's processed like this: take the natural ingredients, mix them with a dash of preservative and put the mixture in a box. Most people add milk when they eat it.

There are brands of muesli, some of them very popular, that are revolting (to my palate anyway), and until I'd tried a *good* muesli I thought I hated muesli!

tea,

Oh, yes, if you visit Northern England you'll often find tea served in a bucket, traditionally (but rarely, today) the bucket the tea was made in. It goes back to the days when labourers, dockers, and farm workers made tea in metal buckets heated on open fires or braziers (or against the furnace in the steel industry). If the bucket is being shared by a number of people, traditionalists take turns drinking from the bucket, but nowadays you're more likely to be given a cup which you fill by dipping it into the bucket. There are unwritten rules about the order in which people take the bucket, or dip their cup. You can pay honour to someone by saying, "Will you be 'Mother?'" That person then passes the bucket to the person of her/his choosing, or dips their cup for them.

<removes tongue from cheek>

Oh, how I'm tempted to let this one run! But no, not really a bucket. A huge porcelain mug the size of a bucket (a 568ml bucket, that is). <g>

Martin.

Ugh, I hate it when they serve tea in buckets, it's as bad as the French drinking coffee out of bowls.

-Shez.

"Martin Sylvester" wrote:

Pig's Feet were also traditional food for poor folks in the rural American South. (And some of the Old Folks still eat em, I think just to gross out the grandkids.) But that doesn't mean that you have to eat 'em now. Ick.

You need to come to Chapel Hill, NC, where you can get Thai, Cuban, Mexican, Indian, Turkish, Irish, Chinese, French (no, not Chez Pierre), Italian, and, of course, traditional Eastern-Style NC Barbecue... I think it's just one of them there "global trends," as everyone gets sick of the long stare into the fridge for something different to eat besides "the usual."

Double Ick.

rich.

Mr. O'Neill: Let's pledge to make Daria's dream a reality!

Daria: You mean the one where people walking down the street burst into flames?

Mr. O'Neill: The coffeehouse!

On Mon, 7 Dec 1998 22:47:43 -0000, "Martin Sylvester" wrote:

Do we have to get gifts? Are we gonna throw a party?

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Well if thats only on it they have taken" Sealed with a kick" off it then..

Nor thet it's a good one but it tells they were thinking of making Daria more of a doop. (good think they dropt that!)

Andrea
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No "Sealed With A Kick"? That's kind of a disappointment, it's on the US video.

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Shadoc64 wrote in message ...

"Sealed with kick" is included, but not advertised on the cover

"I just got blown off by a guy i didn`t even go after" "You should find a safe, legal alternative to killing him." "I already have, when i get through with him there`ll be nothing left but jelly." "well, you won`t have to do anything to his brain"

Shadoc64 wrote in message ...

video.

Yes, it's there! At the time of the earlier post I hadn't watched the video, and the wrapper makes no reference at all to "Sealed with a Kick." But it's there!

(Idly muses, was I the first in the UK to own the Daria video? The till receipt -- would that be "Register check" in US English? -- tells me I paid for it at 1454 today.)

Martin.

no, it's just "receipt" here.

On Mon, 7 Dec 1998 15:33:57 -0000, "Martin Sylvester" wrote:

Trying to fathom why MTV replaced the original songs in the episodes with cheap, bland, generic garbage? :-)

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Martin J. Pollard wrote in message ...

And why they left in the idents where commercial breaks would be - at least they remove them for the c5 transmissions.

As to the music: they didn't want to pay additional licensing fees for video distribution?

Martin.

Dnot tel me that Virgin has removd the bonus plot "Sealed with a Kick". Not thet its a good one. But it dos tel that they were planing to make Daria a bit mor dorki/poopy like. luckely they didnt..

Typed in silent's

Andrea the Silent wrote in message ...

No, it's there, but not mentioned on the wrapper.

To avoid confusion: Virgin's where I bought it, but the publisher is MTV Home Video.

Martin.

Martin Sylvester wrote:

<<I know what I'll be doing at about 9.30 tonight...>>

Vespers?

Peace Kevin --> (who's trying desperately to find some connection between Daria and Ambrose, and coming up absolutely empty)

KTrick45 wrote in message ...

No, that came earlier! And Compline was after Daria.

and

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Well, there's Ambrose's refusal to be dominated by (political) authority...

Q2. What common themes does "Daria" share with the Solemnity of the Immaculate Conception? (Can be answered as an essay or an animation of not more than ten minutes).

Martin.