Has anyone else noticed the remarkable resemblence between Quinn and the Doonesbury character Boopsie? I wonder if perhaps they are related.
-Shez.
Doonesbury
Dec 4, 199847 posts by 18 posters
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Shez wrote:
What's Doonesbury? Sorry, I don't think I've heard of that.....
Alli
On Fri, 04 Dec 1998 16:30:51 -0800, "endless, nameless" wrote:
Doonesbury is a daily comic strip that appears in US papers. I would say it's a political comic (since it's sometimes buried in the editorial section) but it covers a wide range of topics. It has been around since 1970 and has developed a huge cast of characters over the years (Father Duke is based on Hunter S. Thompson). The character of Boopsie does sort of resemble Quinn however Boopsie is based on a woman by the name of Barbara Hand Clow.
"Actually the character of Boopsie is an amalgam of Shirley MacLaine, Ramtha and me. Boopsie's full name is Barbara Ann Boopstein. Barbara Ann, Barbara Hand." (Barbara Hand Clow: The Boopsie Factor. High Times Nov 1995)
- I once shot a man just to watch him die. Then I got distracted, and I missed it. -Dave Foley, the Kids In the Hall.
Happydude of MagicNet, Inc. writes:
It's also in the Guardian in the UK. Quinn's eyes are like Boopsies. I noticed the similarity between them during the Monster episode where Quinn is crying out "I do not have pores, my pores are tiny!" etc. Her tone of voice at that point made me think especially of Boopsie, which is kind of odd since Doonesbury is a silent comic strip.
-Shez.
Shez wrote: Finally, a thread about my favorite comic strip!
And for you proles who don't buy The Guardian, it's online at www.doonesbury.com.
I can't see that I've ever noticed similarities between Quinn and Boopsie. But Trent = Zonker. I'm sure I don't even have to explain myself there. Also, Honey looks a little like Daria. And J. J. has a lot in common with Jane. Hey, I'm getting somewhere here... B.D. = Kevin? Duke = Jake? Mike = Ted?
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On 4 Dec 1998 21:33:17 GMT, [email] (Shadoc64) wrote:
Nichole=Daria She was a character who only appeared around 1971-1975. Put a green jacket and a pair of boots on her and you have Daria. Don't believe me? go to http://www.doonesbury.com/flashbacks/ search for September 30 1971 October 1 1971 and October 5 1971 (Daria vs. Quinn perhaps?)
- I once shot a man just to watch him die. Then I got distracted, and I missed it. -Dave Foley, the Kids In the Hall.
I can remember when Doonesbury was good. After Cartoon Boy, Gary Trudeau, took his little break a few years ago and restarted the strip it just isn't quite the same. Or maybe it's me that's changed. It's so boring I don't bother reading it anymore. I've also quit bothering with Cathy. For a while it was funny but her petty problems and convoluted logic is just boring. Dilbert is still good though.
I keep wondering how long, if ever, it'll take for Daria to wear thin. I've seen these shows come and I've seem 'em go. Usually I get bored when it's become obvious that the writers have run completely out of ideas. When the stories develop a severe case of the "stupids" then that's about the time I give up on it. Xena: Warrior Princess has gotten to that point. Now I have a NEW favorite show. Move over Warrior Princess, there's a new chick in town. I just wonder how long it'll last. It's really up to the Daria creative staff.
Bob
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In article , "R. K. Henry" wrote:
Well, at the rate of only 13 episodes a season, it'll probably last a while...and I would hope the writers would have the sense to bring things to an end if they saw the first sign of that happening.
It's kind of interesting, it becomes clear often when a show has "run its course", like, with Monty Python's Flying Circus John Cleese said he wouldn't do any more episodes because most of their sketches got to be variations of one they'd done before. Which is good, cuz they went on to make the movies. I just hope they don't run out of ideas on Daria and do dumb crap like "Gee, let's do another one about the Fashion Club" or "You know people like ones about Trent and Daria, let's do one of those" because that would get old REAL fast. REAL fast.
Of course than their are shows that get old after their first episode... :)
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I'm going to just say that I'm going to have to agree with the Xena comment. I'm a casual viewer (I'm a 16 year old male, what can I say?), and I keep seeing all song episodes, all dance episodes, and things so anachromistic it hurt my head.
On Fri, 4 Dec 1998 14:50:35 -0500, "R. K. Henry" wrote:
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I would have thought Brittany a closer match for Boopsie than Quinn, myself. Going all the way back to Boopsie's days as the ditzy cheerleader dating the quarterback (whom she later married).
Jim
[email] writes:
I never realised Boopsie was a cheerleader. But then I'd probably not even heard of cheerleaders back then. But the guy in the helmet is indeed just like Kevin, there do seem to be many more parallels than I'd first thought. I guess Daria's mum is like the old woman in the hat, I forget her name, a politian I think.
-Shez.
On Sat, 5 Dec 1998 03:04:17 +0000, Shez wrote:
That would be either Joanie Caucus or Lacey Davenport. Joanie is a lawer. Lacey is the polititian with a hat (I wont tell you what happened to Lacey a few weeks ago in case the Guardian publishes strips later than here in the states)
BTW I thought there was a Daria chat on dalnet on friday nights. did it change?
- I once shot a man just to watch him die. Then I got distracted, and I missed it. -Dave Foley, the Kids In the Hall.
The Guardian is totally up to date (in fact, we probably get Doonesbury a few hours before you do), so we know all about Lacey, Alice and Elmont's new home, Zipper looking for a fraternity, etc.
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Happydude of MagicNet, Inc. writes:
That's the one, Mrs Davenport. Of course she's a lot older than Daria's mum, but it's that stately sort of air I was thinking of. Actually Daria's mum isn't as nice as that, she's more corporate and curt.
I don't know anything about chat stuff, I've never tried IRC. Until a couple of months ago I didn't even have web access, I was just using newsgroups and email for years, so I'm still new to all this instant gratification lark. (Well maybe "instant" isn't quite the right word, but you know what I mean.)
-Shez.
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hehehheheh. forgive me... but "mum? lark?" you guys are priceless! i love it! by the way, i may tell you that american girls love a guy with an accent. Just to let you know.
What a shame they all live at least 5 hours west of here....
-Shez.
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accent.
I say! You're not pulling my leg? Well, thanks awf'ly, but I wish you'd spilled the beans before I gave up snogging; still, the other chaps will be pleased as Punch to know. Must tell the lads from the rugby club.
Of course, I don't really *have* an accent, myself.
Martin.
Sure you do. WE don't have the accent.
I think that since we Americans invented the language, we ought to be able to decide who has the accent.
On Sun, 6 Dec 1998 13:05:34 -0000, "Martin Sylvester" wrote:
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Kyle wrote in message ...
<big grin> Nice one! That wins my prize for the most Darianesque comment of the thread. You can claim your free pint of cask-conditioned real ale next time you visit Grimsby.
Martin.
On Sun, 6 Dec 1998 19:07:37 -0000, "Martin Sylvester" wrote:
Bows to the applause.
Thank you, thank you.
I couldn't have done it without my views of the UK, and Canada (or as I like to call it, Really North Dakota)
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CrtoonDude wrote:
And vice versa, if you ask me. The English accent has got to be the most annoying accent, especially 'cockney' like in Eastenders, and like everyone from the council estate next to my school has.
Alli
Yes, I suppose that I could see how it would get annoying after awhile. But then, most things do.
Shez wrote:
This may sound like a stupid question to those of you from the USA, but what exactly do cheerleaders *do*? Other than fucking football players and standing around looking stupid, I mean.
Alli
On Sat, 05 Dec 1998 17:13:55 -0800, [email] wrote:
Actually, that's pretty much it.
At football and basketball games, they do choreagraphed dance routines trying to get the crowd pumped up.
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Kyle wrote:
Yes, that was the impression I got......
Is there, like, a maximum IQ you have to have before you can be one?
Alli
On Sat, 05 Dec 1998 18:37:43 -0800, "endless, nameless" wrote:
Surprisingly, no. Despite the common-stereotype, some are quite bright. In that honor-roll, always does homework and studies sort of way.
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Kyle wrote:
Oh yeah, I think I know what you mean. We have some people like that at our school, some of them, I have been told, stay up until 2am doing homework, and the reasoning behind this always escapes me. Is that the sort of thing? The ones who go to parties and don't get drunk, and who actually *enjoy* extra-curricular activities, and who're always the teachers' favorites. It annoys me when people assume I'm one of these types, call me a boff for getting 96% in the Spanish test when I didn't spend 5 minutes revising, are really surprised to discover I do absolutely no work in class, equate academic acheivement with effort.....
Alli
On Sat, 05 Dec 1998 22:16:25 -0800, "endless, nameless" wrote:
Bingo! If I was still taking spanish, that'd be me. Although I have no idea what a "boff" is
Kyle, President of The Commitee To Rename Canada to Really North Dakota
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Kyle wrote:
Roughly translated into US English, a 'brain'.
Alli
In article , "endless, nameless" wrote:
Do kids these days still use the word "swot"?
[EEyach... I just realised what I said, I'm 24 fer cryne out loud... Or is that "old" already? Gaah...]
In article , "endless, nameless" wrote:
Hmmm ... 'boff' means something else entirely in American slang (though it's a verb, not a noun) ...
no no no no no, what you're thinking of is spelled BOOF.
Yeah... of course I'm still surprised when I get good grades on certain things, especially FST (Functions Statistics and Trigonometry), because I absolutely never pay any attention whatsoever to that teacher but I always do good. I think my FST teacher gets kinda mad when I get good grades on tests because he knows I don't pay any attention. Or like in my first year German I remember never listening to Frau but being her favorite student. I think this may be because I never threw things though, that's what it took in that class. OK I'm gonna go now. Bye.
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Eccles9697 wrote:
Yeah, I absolutely *infuriate* my Spanish teacher because it's so damn obvious I don't listen to a word she says, but I can get 100% in tests and stuff. She hates me for that.
Alli
endless, nameless wrote:
60 would be my guess. It's funny, but I can only remember Brittany ever doing one cheer...but *what* a cheer! "Where are we going? The Mall! What are we spending? Money! Money! Mall! Mall! Money! Mall! Mall! Money! Go class!" That's actually pretty *typical* of a cheerleader's routine. ;-{)>
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Kyle wrote in message ...
Very often the cheerleaders are selected pretty much through a popularity contest. When I was in high school they brought the entire student body into assembly in the gym and the students voted on the finalists. The very definition of "popular." None of the cheers were very demanding so I guess it wouldn't have required much of the cheerleaders beyond being popular.
Other places they take football and cheerleading VERY seriously, almost a religion. I understand it's like that in Texas. Wasn't Highland supposed to be in Texas?
Of course cheerleading can be quite good. College cheerleading squads, and some high school, include men as well as women. With the guys out there performing too they do some really amazing things, throwing the women high into the air and catching them, that kind of stuff. There can be as much athleticism on the sidelines as there is out on the field, maybe more. A kind of sports ballet, or maybe a circus. A far cry from the embarrassingly lame cheerleading that Brittany demonstrated on the bus to the Mall of the Millennium. Screaming fans (everyone except Daria, that is), the band playing, the cheerleaders performing, there's only one word for it: Spectacle! That can help mollify fans when their team can't hold onto the ball. And the view of female thigh in a short skirt gives guys something to look at when the game gets boring.
I guess I'd be very excited about the whole thing if I gave a damn about football. I guess that makes me weird. Maybe like Daria. I identify with Daria in so many ways, except that she's female and I'm not (Although she has prompted a new appreciation of females and femalehood beyond what I'd realized before.). I read a newspaper column by feminist writer Camille Paglia in which she argued that everyone should learn about football because it has lessons to teach about life. That may be. But if so then why are those lessons limited only to the attractive and popular who can participate?
Bob
At our school we have a "powder puff" football with girls playing football and guys cheerleading. The guy cheerleaders are all dressed up as women. Kind of funny.
Maybe that is a real lesson about life. Like Daria said in "See Jane Run" (something like): "You've refused to live by the system, but you haven't defeated the system. The system will go on. Wow, they really ARE teaching us about life"
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In article , "R. K. Henry" wrote:
There are some people who are neither attractive nor popular that have participated in football and cheerleading(I only say this because I was one of them).
R. K. Henry wrote:
That's an even better lesson about life, depressing as it is. If you aren't attractive and popular, you're screwed, basically.
Alli
In article , "endless, nameless" wrote:
(In my best double entendre voice) That certainly hasn't been MY experience...
R. K. Henry wrote in message ...
Doesn`t everything have lessons to teach about life Anyone for a game of twister? ;-)
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because
Here's a game: try to picture Daria at a party playing twister.
Can't do it, huh?
Of course I never thought I'd see Daria get her navel pierced either. This character is so rich with story possibilities.
Bob
Or wait, I know: Daria playing a game of cards.
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I actually can, but I can't imagine her enjoying it. I can't *not* imagine her being completely humiliated. ;-{)>
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In article , "endless, nameless" wrote:
It's a comic strip that started in the early 70's, and deals with social/political comentary. You'll learn more about US politics by reading Doonesbury then you will in a history book ^_^
Way more. Our social studies teacher always talks about what that days Doonesbury was about.
-Kazul