Mike's Delayed Reaction Review-#312 (3-38), "Just Add Water"

Mike's Delayed Reaction Review-#312 (3-38), "Just Add Water"

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Mike's Delayed Reaction Review-"Just Add Water"

MDRR #312 (3-38) I think I've heard some of this before

Post Heart Attack Watch - Mr. DeMartino should be avoiding all stressful situations, if possible. They're finding him anyway; maybe Miss Barch has placed some sort of curse on him. Last week, he almost got deported and now he's forced to face one of his inner demons. He has become a ticking time bomb. It's not a matter of if he'll explode; it's a matter of when. Jake wasn't exactly relaxed, either. His sparring with Helen caused him to miss an opportunity to save the day in the pilot's room (not that Helen would have noticed).

Blast from the Past - Was it the cafeteria meatloaf? How about the word lothario in a Sick Sad World promo? No! It was the so-called 'plot' of this episode. It's been around a couple of times before and has a less than stellar success rate.

Discontinuity of the Week - Daria and Jane were less than impressed with Sick Sad World as recently as The Lawndale File, but they seem almost giddy about a sixty-plus hour marathon of the stuff. All right, this isn't that big of a screw up (this section is just to maintain a giant cheesy in-joke included with this review). On the other hand, Jake did use the word edgy again. At least he remembered it, even if he doesn't exactly know what it means.

Fashion Club Fiasco - Sandi and Quinn go back to some of their old tricks in their struggle for control of the fashion club. Sandi feigns civility towards Quinn, while plotting to try to take her popularity out by spreading nasty rumors about Quinn being stood up for a date. Quinn either is oblivious to this scheming or has something worked out for herself to counter the attacks. This time, Quinn comes out on top at the end, which is probably the lesser of two evils (Quinn is not nearly as capable of the same kind of treachery that Sandi is). In the end, Quinn and Sandi will probably give up the struggle when they both realize that the only prize is the right to control Tiffany and Staci like sock puppets.

Funny Throwaway Line of the Week - This one had me in stitches and I think I've repeated it to about ten people so far. It was the Sick Sad World trailer that went, "Meet the cannibal with a heart, before he eats it! Next." Classic!

Gambling Away the Future - No wonder Mr. DeMartino wanted to get out of Casino Night. I particularly enjoyed his attempts to give away his chips. He wanted to give them to Daria because she makes him "want to kill himself a little less" and to Jane because she is "so angular." His poker addiction had him so disoriented, he didn't realize that he could get rid of the chips in the same Daria and Jane did, betting them all on one spin of the roulette wheel. The gambling problem was one of the more interesting developments of this episode and it was a shame that it degenerated into Mr. DeMartino going around asking everyone to buy his watch.

Marital Bliss - Jake and Helen have more problems that most of us want to believe. Helen has taken him for granted virtually the entire series except for Jake of Hearts and Road Worrier and Jake resents her for it. All he is, is a puppy that wants his belly rubbed every once and a while. Not that he should go off on those little tirades, but they would be less frequent if Helen paid more attention to him. Then again, if Jake went on fewer tirades, Helen may pay more attention to him. It's one of those vicious things!

Appropriate Ending of the Series - The fact that the boat hit a garbage scow is interesting. I mean, they could have hit anything but they chose garbage. Maybe, whoever came up with this idea will take the hint and throw this "plot" in the garbage where it belongs.

This episode had a somewhat interesting premise that, in and of itself, wasn't a problem. The problem is that this episode was all over the place and that there wasn't much flow to the events that happened. In other words, the pace was clunky. This episode was far too similar to Fair Enough for me. Daria and Jane were thrust into a series of stupid situations that they very easily could have avoided. The parallels to Fair Enough are staggering and don't stop there. Let's go down the list, shall we. First, there is Miss Li making participation in a school sponsored event mandatory; been there, done that. Then there's Mr. DeMartino going into a rage for some reason, Quinn and Sandi's little duel, Miss Barch and "skinny" kind of hooking up together and some sort of large disturbance that ruins everyone's fun (Fair Enough had the food fight, Just Add Water had the Titanic-like crash). The ending with just Kevin and Brittany seemed borrowed. Even the titles of both episodes come from the realm of cliche-ville. Basically, it had most of the same elements, tweaked slightly with some new situations and repackaged in the hopes that no one would notice. Overall (everyone all together now), "it was just a bunch of stuff that happened."

The Bottom Line: Fair Enough on a boat.

Grade: C+ (Saved from a B by the fact that I saw this episode in season two.)

Daria as a Whole #1, Fun with Acronyms - Did anyone else notice that if you took the first letter in each word of the title of this episode, you get the word JAW? I wonder if they were in shark infested waters when they crashed.

Daria as a Whole #2, Stupid In-joke - As I mentioned above, I have made this review one giant self-referential "joke" as a response to how this episode turned out. A hundred points to anyone that "gets it." (Hint: look for the ghost of Delayed Reaction Reviews past and you'll eventually find the answer.)

Next Week- Jane is addicted to the drug of love.

Copyright � 1999 Mike Quinn [All Rights Reserved]. "Daria" and all related characters are � 1999 MTV Networks, Inc.

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A sort of Sifl & Ollie show taken to extremes. Great image, Mike.

Has anyone else noticed that MTV has a disproportionately large number of really catchy theme songs? Tom Green Show, Sifl & Ollie, Daria, to name the ones I catch every once in a while.

As always an interesting review.

Sincerely, Rev. Paul L. Vasquez

In article ,

Whoa! That was exactly what I was going for (I had an at least similar mental image when I came up with that)

Rock!*

This is a Mike Quinn post It's not a Quinn Mike post

lalalalala lalalalala lalalalala

Thanks

*I sure hope S&O come back soon (and I have source that say they will) the withdrawal pain really hurts.

Mike Quinn wrote:

I know what you mean-- I missed most of the last bunch of S&O because they moved it to 8:00-- the same time I'm usually out. I guess that hair band in the commercial was right, "you don't know what you got, till it's gone." TuneCrime! ;-)

rich.

"Stop the bus! Stop the bus!" -- Chester

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In article , [email] wrote:

Dude, I've laughing about this since I saw it about an hour ago. Rest assured that if I ever start a band, some version of this will be on our first album ;)

Not so fast. Never say never, but THIS one's a long shot ;) ?...

I do like to sing, though. It's just my talent at it is suspect (I think I'm good but I doubt if anyone else does).

I'll let you know where to send the royalty check. :-)

It would require a different plot device. There are no hurricanes in our future, so there won't be a chance of the town blowing away, and since we have a drought there won't be any big wet rainstorm.

As if that stopped any number of recording artists.

In article , [email] wrote:

Heck, you can be in the band too. Anyone else want to start a band? You don't have to have any musical ability or play any instuments. If worse comes to worst we can always bang on garbage cans.

I know, a giant computer crash (knocks on wood).

True enough.

On Thu, 19 Aug 1999 16:14:27 GMT, Mike Quinn wrote:

Yes, me. I got all those tunes in my head and those songs but since I can't write notes I can only record my ideas on dictaphone for future reference. MSB

i have never been able to read music... i played recorder when i was 6-7 or thereabouts, and piano when i was 9-11, and then we had to learn music at secondary school until the end of year 9.. and i still couldn't do it. in fact the main reason i stopped taking piano lessons was that i could not read music. grrr. 'course it's much easier now i play guitar. although my fingers have gone all soft because i haven't played for 3 weeks. grrrr.

endless, nameless wrote in message news:[email]...

"Did anyone ever make you practice 'Pop Goes the Weasel' on the flute for a year?"

For me it was "Rudolph the Red-nosed Reindeer" on the piano for 6 months. That was what convinced Mom and Dad to let me quit--playing a Christmas song at Easter--and the fact that I was getting worse instead of better. I was thoroughly bored. I wanted to learn new stuff, new techniques, new pieces. I get bored easily if things don't move on quickly enough. I really wanted to learn to sight-read but my teacher just ignored my requests. So I quit, mostly because I was disappointed in my inability to read. Picked it up briefly a few years later but quit again for other reasons. I'd figured it would be too hard to pick it up again at this late date but that episode where Daria tells about the flute inspired me to give it a try (Cafe Disaffecto). First thing: sight reading. I'd had enough of idiotic mnemonic devices (this isn't an S&M thing) about Every Good Boy Does Fly and the like. They only slow you down. The thing to do is to LEARN the staff. Memorize it. So I just sat down and learned it. Turns out it's a whole lot easier than I'd expected as it only takes about a half-hour to an hour to get it. From then on it's continual reinforcement --learn by doing. Unexpectedly easy. Drill yourself by writing down the letters as well as by correlating to the keyboard. The leger lines are another matter, you can learn them as you go. Then take an unfamiliar piece and just try sight-reading it on the fly. It doesn't have to be perfect. If only I'd known years ago how easy it is. This is fun! The next thing is to learn to do it well. Of course at that age I had a tendency to blow off memorization of any kind. Memory work! Bah! That attitude might have partially accounted for my performance in school. There's nothing wrong with using memory, especially when you have a good memory. After all, it's all memory at one point or another. If I could go back in time and mentor myself--what I wouldn't tell that obdurate little brat.

Oh, my music prowess is legendary. I used to play the recorder (compulsory) when I was 8, then when I changed school, and my new one was most frightfully parsh, darling, my mum, desperate to fit in as she is, made me learn the cello. F*ck knows how she thought this would change anything, but I was drafted into a group of 3 that had weekly lessons. I was asked to leave cello lessons within a month for holding back the class :) I just couldn't see how the pictures related to the notes. Anyway, there was a happy ending, since I took to the drums like a pigeon to water, and have been cheerfully incompetant at them ever since. But it means I can get into my friends' bands, since no-one else can play the drums, and can say: "I'm not a wimp! I play the drums!"

Greg, who is now 16, and could thus get a saturday job. If he didn't have school on saturday :P

In article ,

One music writer, check!

So far we have a chello; a guitar; a trumpet, french horn, whatever; trash can bongos; someone willing to compose music and me with my singing voice (which can be best described as a mix between Adam Duritz, Natalie Merchant and Dave Matthews -- not for the faint of heart).

I can see no way that we can't make it to the top of the charts. All we need now is a name.

Mike Quinn wrote:

I say go with a 60's retro name, like "Radiator Fudge..." ;-)

Oh, and BTW, I do NOT play F-Horn. There are just some things I won't do.

rich. (who can also sing backup.)

Helen: Bureaucracy is the price we pay for impartiality.

Jake: Jefferson!

Helen: Stalin.

In article , [email] wrote:

Mikey likey :)

Other suggestions:

"The Scooby Snacks" "The Fantastic Sarcastics" "Sergeant Blind Kiwi Tarzan" "The Intrepid Darias"

Fair Enough (I like the sound of trumputs better, anyway).

Duely Noted ;)

In article ,

lol!

I vote for "The Fantastic Sarcastics" I've been laughing at that for the last half hour. Or maybe "The Burning Plastic Pumps". But, then again with that name we could be living in voluntary simplicity for a while...

I got the guitar! And I play a mean kazoo!

wicka_chick

In article , [email] wrote:

(giggles)

The list ain't final (Mmmmmmm... burning plastic)

We with have one of the largest number one bands in history and with all of these different instruments our sound will be best described as eclectic (I guess a kazoo is considered some kind of horn).

Am I taking this too seriously? Nah...

You could always call the group "The Fashion Club."

[email] wrote:

Waving raised hand and going "Ooh! Ooh!".

I think 'Mike Quinn and the FanTastic Darianites' has a nice ring to it.

Can I be the groupie co-ordinator? ;)

On Sat, 21 Aug 1999 10:05:45 GMT, [email] wrote:

Nah, better not. They'd be thinking we're a gospel group from some religious sect (and maybe that's not so wrong :-). MSB

In article , [email] wrote:

Yeah, I sort of wanted something like "Mike and the..." but didn't want to post it myself ;-)

If you think you can handle it ;)

P.S. The review will be up by the time I leave today, still being edited

[email] wrote:

Actually, I get together once in a blue moon with some friends of mine to jam a little-- we never did settle on a name. I always thought that we should've gone with "Radiator Fudge," but the other guys all hated it. *Shrug* Now we go by "T-Bone Granny." It's a long story, and a late night.

I *LOVE* The Burning Plastic Pumps!!! That's an awesome name! I vote for that one!

BTW, as for my range, well, I'm a baritone, but I can also do some Tenor. (But that doesn't mean I *like* to sing tenor.) And I forgot an instrument-- yes, I can play the mouth harp (aka "Jew's Harp") you know, the thing that makes the "Boing!" sound. (How appropriate for this group, ne?) ;-) You just have to be careful not to let the metal flange smack you in the teeth. *cringe* That's the main reason I forgot that I could play it. ;-)

rich.

Max: We're criminales!

On the mountaintop, [email] spake thusly:

Yeah, and I can operate the machine that goes "ping!"

-Mindy (Ten points to the ref-spotter!)

Dcode: Ap D+ T7 Wl Q++ Fn^Fr O- Or+Os+Od m-- c MV-- C5X F:101,308 BBd FCJ -DT-- q fJ^fM^fO(Artie :-P) Find the Daria Geek Code at http://www.geocities.com/TelevisonCity/Taping/3017/

Mindy said:

Monty Python's The Meaning of Life.

Sincerely Yours, Jordan

"Man is a god in ruins" (Ralph Waldo Emerson)

On Fri, 20 Aug 1999 15:20:54 GMT, Mike Quinn wrote:

`How about "the guys who won't start a band 'cause they're scattered across the globe" ? MSB

Matthias Benkmann wrote in message news:[email]...

"...but we're thinking of changing the name."

Actually, being scattered around the world isn't so unmanagable these days. Each member can lay down his tracks and E-mail the digital file around. You can assemble an entire work without the band members ever meeting each other.

yeah. and you can end up with some crap like "free as a bird"

Dagny

http://members.aol.com/Eccles9697

"I'm not different for the sake of being different, only for the desperate sake of being myself. I can't join your gang: you'd think I was a phoney and I'd know it." Vivian Stanshall

"R. K. Henry" wrote:

Yeah, but wouldn't that make touring a bit difficult?

eyes on the prize, rich.

Max: We're criminales!

On Sun, 22 Aug 1999 02:58:10 GMT, [email] (paperpusher) wrote:

Bah. We just assemble a group of dancers who look like N'Sync and let them do the touring for us. MSB

[email] (Matthias Benkmann) wrote:

That'd take all the fun out of touring-- going to nameless cities, boring colosseums, playing for faceless crowds, then trashing the dressing room when we find a brown M&M in the bowl... ;-)

rich.

Jane: All I want is to make beautiful things!

On Sat, 21 Aug 1999 15:26:04 -0400, "R. K. Henry" wrote:

Yes, and I can imagine the results. Everyone plays his part, with his own timing and then we just mix all these tracks. That's a great piece of music, all right. MSB

On Fri, 20 Aug 1999 15:20:54 GMT, Mike Quinn wrote:

Eyes on the prize, man. Eyes on the prize

On Sat, 21 Aug 1999 15:49:41 GMT, [email] (Happydude) wrote:

I play drum set. I also play bass guitar, piano, and xylophone, but I prefer drums. That is, if the trash can bongos prmise not to upstage me.

I think we may have had this conversation on atd before, quite a while back, though.

Kyle The Manny Alexander of alt.sports.baseball.chicago-cubs

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                                                        ^^^^^^^^^

ahh, it was *you*. i knew someone on here played xylophone. :)

yes, i think so.

On the mountaintop, Mike Quinn spake thusly:

I do! I can be your cello player! Or better yet, I can make wicked performance art out of my cello, since I suck at playing it! My art can be on your CD covers! *Calms down*

-Mindy Who would volunteer her singing abilities, but y'all don't deserve that kind of torture.

"Daria, you're giving me a headache!!" -Quinn Morgendorffer, "Daria"

Dcode: Ap D+ T7 Wl Q++ Fn^Fr O- Or+Os+Od m-- c MV-- C5X F:101,308 BBd FCJ -DT-- q fJ^fM^fO(Artie :-P) Find the Daria Geek Code at http://www.geocities.com/TelevisonCity/Taping/3017/

On Thu, 19 Aug 99 18:23:11 GMT, [email] (Mindy) wrote:

Hmm, I remember seeing a video not so long ago where they were playing Metallica's "Nothing else matters" on instruments that could have been celli. It was cooooool. MSB

Hmmmmmmmmm.. i assume you mean cello, i've never heard of a celli. but i know what you'r refferring to. it's a cd by an all-cello band called 'apoctalyptica'. they have a cd called "apoctalyptica play metallica on four cellos'. some of metallica's best hits: enter sandman, creeping death, master of puppets, unforgiven (which sound INCREDABLE on cellos). i suggest it. --- ~Po CROWDSURFERS WILL BE EJECTED FROM THE BUILDING. It can be harmful, and most of all disrespectful to climb on other people's heads. Crowdsurfing should only be done naked and in the privacy of your own home.

Thank you The Beastie Boys

On 20 Aug 1999 21:10:01 GMT, [email] (CrtoonDude) wrote:

"Celli" is the correct Italian plural of "cello". Using it rather than "cellos" is a way of telling people I respect the languages of my fellow Europeans. See my posting about accents for further reading.

Yes, that's them. MSB

In article ,

If

can be on

that kind

That reminds me of my favorite scene in JA...

"Old McDonald had a farm ee i ee i o!"

Jane sang way better in D:TM.

wicka_chick

In article ,

One chello player, check!

Hey, I'm singing in my own band no matter how bad I am ;)

Mindy wrote:

ROTFLOL! Reminds me of the performance art piece (performed by Charlotte...something...can't remember her last name) in which a topless woman played an electronically treated cello with little TV sets affixed to her breasts. It was called "TV Bra" (I think), and I think John Cage was involved. Or Cornelius Cardew. One of those avant-garde "C" composers.

MIKE (a.k.a. "Progbear")

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On Thu, 19 Aug 1999 16:14:27 GMT, Mike Quinn wrote:

Count me in. I've been playing the guitar since I was 10 so I do have some musical ability. I can detune or play left handed to fit in with the can banging and cello grinding if needed.

There's some joke about guitars and hemorrhoids but luckily I can't remeber it.

[email] (Happydude) wrote:

What the hey-- if it's brass, I can play it, too, except for slide trombone (I was too lazy to learn the positions, so I played a flugabone), and French Horn (Ewww! Your hand gets all pruny from jamming it in the bell.) But if it's got 3 valves, I can play it.

I also play a little guitar and very little bass. (Yeah, I suck, but I have fun when I can fit it in.)

Reminds me of my favorite violin jokes from the days of torture in HS-- the band wind players would have to sit in with the orchestra and rehearse with them every now and then-- it was awful for us, because our parts were usually 800 measures rest, then a whole note, then 800 more measures rest. Meanwhile, we're stuck in the back with the 3rd violins. *Shudder* So naturally, we told jokes:

What's the difference between a violin and a viola? A viola burns longer. ;-)

What's the difference between jumping on a trampoline and jumping on a violin? You take your shoes OFF to jump on a trampoline. ;-)

rich.

Jane: All I want is to make beautiful things!

paperpusher wrote:

I love viola jokes (used to play the violin, so they're always viola jokes to me, not violin jokes :)! Actually, all of my viola playing friends love them too. Must make them feel special, the poor dears. My personal favorite: Why do viola players hate the Kama Sutra? All those positions!

Allison

"Allison A." wrote:

(Laugh, cough) Good one.

The first chair violin at my HS was actually quite good, but we poor brass players had to sit in the back with the 3rd violins. Ugh. Why did they even bother?

Hey, here's a sick idea-- the Alt.Tv.Daria Symphony Orchestra. ;-)

rich.

Jane: All I want is to make beautiful things!

On Thu, 19 Aug 1999 20:47:04 GMT, [email] (paperpusher) wrote:

I played the trombone in elementary school. I still remember some of the positions. I lost intrest in it when I got a guitar...no more spit-valves!

I found a web page full of viola jokes once. I just did a search and it's still there with two more pages added. http://www.mit.edu:8001/people/jcb/viola-jokes.html Those poor viola players take as much heat as drummers.

Actually I remeber the guitar/hemorrhoid joke perfectly but I didn't want to insult hemorrhoids. <g>

[email] (Happydude) wrote:

I played trumpet all through College, where I also picked up Flugabone, Baritone/Euphonium, and Tuba. Talk about yer spit valves... now those are spit valves! I have to admit that I had the most fun play a brass Mirafone Sousaphone-- nothing like being easy to pick out in a crowd. <g>

How can you tell if the stage is level? The drummer drools out of both sides of his mouth. ;-)

Thanks for the link to the jokes-- I laughed my butt off.

rich.

Max: We're criminales!

In article , [email] wrote:

One-man brass section, check!

I used to be required to play the recorder (which is woodwind, I guess). The only thing I ever came close to playing was Mary had a Little Lamb and very slowly.

I would like to be able to play the piano (I hear it can impress the chicks but there is the downside of everyone that has piano wanting you to play it for them).

paperpusher wrote:

So, you can play a valve trombone? Cool. I always thought those were cool looking. I still never got over the stress I suffered in 6th grade when I switched from clarinet to alto sax in the school orchestra. Six months later, I switched back, as I really hated the sax. But I've come to realize something really cool about saxophones, ones tuned an octave apart have the same fingering...so if you can play alto sax, you can also play baritone, and if you can play tenor, you can also play soprano. If you master the fingerings to both alto and tenor, you can play them all! How cool is that?

MIKE (a.k.a. "Progbear")

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[email] (Rat Korga) wrote:

Yeah, but depending on the manufacturer, it's either a good experience, or a baaaad one. The Yamahas are OK, but not really earth-shattering. The cool part of playing a valve t-bone is that it has the exact same fingerings as a trumpet, but the music is written in C bass clef rather than B-Flat treble. Makes is a bit tricky at first, but there are workarounds... like pretending that 2nd line B-flat on the bass clef is a middle C for trumpet, and always adding 2 Sharps... Same goes for Tuba, and Bass Clef Baritone/Euphonium. Treble Baritone Horn was always a nice vacation from trumpet-- it was easier to play because the music was dead simple to read.

It's pretty cool. A friend of mine is a sax fiend. ;-) He loves to play bari the most, though. I tried clarinet and sax one time-- not fun for me at all. Too much icky wet reed stuff. Blecch. (I didn't inhale, either. <g>) I guess that makes me a sax offender. ;-)

carrying the big tools, rich.

Jane: All I want is to make beautiful things!

paperpusher wrote:

Yeah, baritone sax is cool, it's got that curly bit in the upper part. Is he a Gerry Muligan fan? Sorry, he was the only famous baritone player I can think of. My fave performance of his is one of his most obscure, on the Beaver/Krause album _Gandharva_, on the half recorded in Grace Cathedral. They do one of his compositions, "By Your Grace", which is just heavenly.

     That's something I had forgotten about the clarinet. You had to swab it
out after every performance. You know, to keep it from mildewing on the inside,
or to keep other nasty things from happening. I'd imagine that's a problem with
pretty much *any* wind instrument, the breath condensation. So it's not really
spit that the spit valve of a brass instrument is ejecting, it's the condensed
water from your breath.
     As far as wind instruments now, I currently own a cheap, plastic recorder,
and a couple of bamboo flutes (one fipple, one transverse) I gought at the
Renaissance Faire at Black Point (are they still doing it there). I'm pretty
rusty on all of the above, but I can get decent sounds out of them, and can
play simple tunes.

MIKE (a.k.a. "Progbear")

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[email] (Rat Korga) wrote:

Actually, brasswinds can take a rather large amount of abuse, so long as you clean them every month or so. I guess it's one of the benefits of having a completely metal instrument. As for what comes out of the spitvalve, well, it's a witches' brew of valve oil, condensation, and, um, spit. But not too much spit. You can always tell when someone really needs to empty theirs because their horn starts gurgling.

To be precise, there are 2 spitvalves on trumpets and cornets, the main one is located on the tuning slide, and the other one right off of the 3rd valve slide. The 3rd valve slide one is the one that usually dumps out excess valve oil, and the main slide dumps out the "other liquids."

The other really nice thing about brasswinds is that mouthpieces are pretty easy to keep clean, and a good one can last forever. (Especially if it gets jammed in. Not that I would know anything about *that*, mind you.)

Come to think of it, now I know why someone like Quinn would never date a trumpet player. ;-)

I've got two trumpets, an evil acoustic and a wonderful electric guitar, a bass, a harmonica, a tin whistle, and a jew's harp. I never bought any other brass instruments-- much easier to just borrow them when necessary. (Besides, I don't have $9000 lying around to buy a nice Mirafone Sousaphone.)

rich.

Brittany: Shut up, naked boy!

paperpusher wrote:

     I forgot to list my acoustic and electric guitars (one of each), my cheapo
Casio MT-100 (with ticky-tacky built-in rhythm tracks), and a very cool ARP
Odyssey mono-synth, vintage 1972 (with white face-panel).
     Oh, and a tambourine. Can't forget that! Now watch me as I do my dorky
impersonation of Marcia Brady in "The Brady Kids". ;-{)>

MIKE (a.k.a. "Progbear")

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"I don't do emotions. I just sing notes." --Wendy Smith

N.P.:"Flick of the Wrist"- Q u e e n / S h e e r H e a r t A t t a c k

[email] (Rat Korga) wrote:

Oh yeah, I forgot my ancient el-cheapo Yamaha keyboard, too. I wonder how many of *those* are floating around flea markets and garage sales?

Aww, man! Now I have that stupid Brady Bunch song stuck in my head! The one where Peter's voice breaks. Ick! TuneCrime!

rich

Jane: Uh-oh, someone just put us in a position of responsibility.

Daria: The day has suddenly turned sinister.

rich wrote:

Well, I've got a horribly abused trumpet, a drum kit, a couple of extra cymbals and snare drums (including one old Slingerland field drum), a glockenspiel, a bunch of different hand percussion instruments, an old wooden soprano recorder, an old chord organ, a cheap Casio keyboard, and... well, it's either a three valve euphonium or a wide bore baritone horn, depending on whom you ask. I think Conn originally marketed it as a "concert baritone horn". The kids have assimilated the guitar into their arsenal. Oh, yeah, there are a coule of kazoos and a few assorted organ pipes. And a harmonica. Hey, my ancestors came from Trossingen. There are Hohners among them.

Peace Kevin

Please don't shoot the messenger. Black Point has been sold, yes, sold to developers. One of the most beautiful places on God's green earth will soon be covered with cheaply built, overpriced houses and overrun by yuppie scum and their screaming spawn. What? Me, bitter?

As for the Renaissance Faire, there was some talk of moving it to my neck of the woods, Kelly Park, San Jose, but that fell through. :( Last I heard, the fairgrounds in Concord were being looked at and IIRC Livermore. I haven't been following what's going on with it since we haven't been back to it since the BC years (before children).

For those clueless about what I'm talking about, the Renaissance Faire is basicly a month long party put on by a crazy group of people built around a midevil time theme. There is every kind of craft you could name (over the years I collected my sword, chain mail, an extremely well tooled heavy belt with matching attachable purse, the guy even tooled it on the spot to attach my scabbard, and my favorite brown floppy felt hat with pheasant feather (try saying *that* three times real fast)). There's jousting, rugby, and many other games. There are folks who give fencing lessons. Plays are put on using people grabbed from the audience. There's more incredible food and drink than a person can sample in one day, yes, real ale. It's just one great big bawdy riot of a party and now I'm off to find out what's up with it now.

didn't we have this once before? isn't there some xylophone player here? anyone remember that? lol.

On Thu, 19 Aug 1999 20:01:56 GMT, [email] (Happydude) wrote:

Would you be able to compose music for D-tag if it ever gets finished? MSB

On Fri, 20 Aug 1999 15:31:45 GMT, [email] (Matthias Benkmann) wrote:

Sure, I don't have the latest or greatest composition software but I'm sure I can come up with something.

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Guitar player, check!

Mike Quinn wrote:

I would love to be the singer...or *a* singer...I sound like a mixture of Al Green and Melissa Etheridge (both of whom I've tried to emulate style-wise) and could do very well in the r&b (*real* r&b, none of this pansy arse '90s r&b)/soul/blues department. And I'm OK with a piano, which is good enough because very few of the more popular songs require a virtuoso pianist to play any piano accompaniments. And in the end I could relearn how to play a guitar 'cos it's been 11 years since I last picked one up in a studying environment. How about it?

Diane

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Hmm...I use to be fairly proficiant on the jug, but I haven't practiced in years, and as everyone knows, if you don't practice playing the jug you lose your ability.

On Sat, 21 Aug 1999 06:22:41 GMT, crazy nutso wrote:

I knew either the jug or the jew's harp would be mentioned eventually. Thanks to rich and crazy nutso for making my wildest nightmares come true. now we need one of those iron wash tubs with a broom stick and string attached.

hey, i can play that! ;) (and it'd probably sound better than my guitar playing as well)

endless, nameless wrote in message news:[email]...

Ok, after all the discussion in some of the other threads, someone's going to have to say it so you can get all your groaning done right now:

Brittany in a jug band.

There, that's over with.

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or on "HEE-HAW" where they had the ALL JUG band.

crazy nutso wrote:

Gloom, despair, and agony oh me! (OH!) Deep dark depression, excessive misery! (WOE!) If it weren't fer bad luck I'd have no luck at all, (OH!) Gloom, despair, and agony, oh me!

This was on Hee-Haw 20 years before Morrisey started navel-gazing and moping, and cashing in on feeling kinda bummed out. It really makes you think, doesn't it? ;-)

I would've thought of a funny verse or two to add to it re: the end of new eps for the next 6 months, but I'm too depressed. :P

After reading this, and watching the TLC special on "Heart of Darkness," and catching a bit of "Weird Science," I'm beginning to suspect that .... no, never mind. Forget what I almost said.

back to the glitterberry patch, rich.

Quinn: People are so weird!

Daria: Some are weird. Some are just astonishingly self-centered and deceitful.

Happydude wrote:

And while we're at it, gotta have one of those old-fashioned washboards as well. (That's about the only thing I'd be able to play)

Marty Charter Member, Underground Bummer Culture Silver Grove, KY Chapter

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I would have to do some vocals or become the manager ;)

We could always do a Fleetwood mac sort of thing where you never know who might be singing.

Jeg7777 wrote: <snip really neato theme song>

Yeah, but will it have as its centerpiece a hurricane? Or just some really irate GAH GAH DAMMIT! driver rushing to get home?

Diane the Lame ;)

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Hey, I just got a car, so I could BE that driver ;)

Honey, that's nowhere near the depths of lameness that I've been to... Oh no, all of those memories are coming back... getting parlyzed by lameness... must resist lame thoughts... you don't want to see what I've seen... bad kryptonite...

(See what I mean?)

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ROTFLMAO! Okay, I vote he has to put that before every reveiw for that "Effect". Or not. I'm just really really bored so I will bore you people with pointless posts.

wicka_chick

I *still* don't have the energy to put a quote. So now it's not only pointless, or boring, but humorless as well.

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Bravo, well done! A Tony award winner is born.

A.J.

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Jake wasn't exactly relaxed, either. His sparring with Helen

Well, if this episode had nothing else to offer, at least we're seeing Jake stand up to Helen for once. Helen is pretty condescending towards him (not that he doesn't sometimes deserve it, but he didn't in the key ring scene.) and now that Jake's got his animosities towards his departed dad out of the way, it's time he got her to be more supportive. He looked nearly competent in this one. ;)