i rewatched "pierce me"

i still think it's damn funny. and i still think daria was in-character in that she acted human! c'mon ... put yrself in her place. trent is a hottie.

catherine

<<i still think it's damn funny. and i still think daria was in-character in that she acted human! c'mon ... put yrself in her place. trent is a hottie>>

Okay, I'll put myself in her place. I STILL WOULDN'T HAVE DONE IT!!!!!!!

I don't think I would have done it, either, but then again I have never *really* liked someone the same way Daria likes Trent. I think it's just me. :o) ~Charlotte~

Well you don't have Daria's motivations or thought processes. She is a complex personality and isn't bound by what is "in character" for her. Everyone has, at some point i their lives, done something that others might consider out of character for them. Its one of the things that makes us human and not two dimensional. (cartoon pun, nevermind) Then again thats just my puny opinion.

-Mike-
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<<Well you don't have Daria's motivations or thought processes. She is a complex personality and isn't bound by what is "in character" for her. Everyone has, at some point i their lives, done something that others might consider out of character for them. Its one of the things that makes us human and not two dimensional. (cartoon pun, nevermind) Then again thats just my puny opinion.>>

Yes, and I come to expect that from human beings, and not the ficticious characters that I've come to admire. If The Fashion Club, and Cheerleaders and Jocks can be exaggerated, than Daria can as well.

On 3 Aug 1998 20:13:01 GMT, [email] (Jsd19) wrote:

The Fashion Club, the Cheerleaders, the Jocks, the Faculty, the Family, and the Miscellaneous Adults are exaggerated for a reason, and that is to provide a higher contrast to Daria's "normality". She's not exaggerated because she's not *SUPPOSED* to be exaggerated, because after all, the whole premise of "Daria" is to chronicle the adventures of a "normal" teenaged girl in what she considers to be a really screwed-up world.

To paraphrase the "Daria" video: "Welcome to Lawndale, a feeding ground for the crass and shallow... which are a feeding ground for the dry wit and sarcasm of Daria Morgendorffer." I'd stop watching if Daria ever became an exaggerated cariacture, FWIW.

Martin ---- Quinn: Daria, you can't leave me here with those, those yuppies! Daria: Yuppies are from the 80s. Quinn: So, what do you call people with funny outfits who talk about peace and love and stuff? Daria: Trekkies. ---- To send E-mail, remove the "nospam" from my E-mail address.

This is off the subject, but I've always wondered what the correct word is. Normalcy? Normality? Normalness?

Calvin (talking to Hobbes): You know, its weird. When your a kid, you grow up thinking whatever your parents do is normal.

*Calvin's Dad walks in the door, bundled up and covered in snow* Dad: What a wonderful start to the day! Getting up at 6 am, going for a brisk walk, it really makes you feel alive. Now I'm going to have a delicious bowl of plain oatmeal.

Hobbes: Well.... Maybe "normal" isn't quite the word Calvin: I think we'd know "normal" if we saw it.

Martin J. Pollard wrote in article ...

Cheerleaders and

peace and love and stuff?

Kyle wrote:

Here's a quote from the Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy..

"'...four to one against and falling... three to one... two... one... probability factor of one to one... we have normality, I repeat we have normality.' She turned the microphone off--then turned it back on--with a slight smile and continued: "Anything you can't cope for is therefore your own problem.'"

This is an actual book, although I don't think you might be inclined to trust a book in which words such as "froody," "hoopy," and "goosnargh" are real words.

Jessica :-)

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I can understand that(Ehat is a "froody" anyway).

Anywho, my understanding is that normal is a relative term(that might be what that passage is about, I'm not sure). It's normal for me to get up early eat a sensible breakfast and go to school/work. It's normal for my brother to sleep until 1PM and eat a lot of cold pizza.

<quote snipped>

a book in which words such as "froody," "hoopy," and "goosnargh" are real words.<<

Not to mention devices such as Infinite Improbability Drives, Sub-Cyclic Normality Assert-i-Trons, and 30-Megahurt Definit-Kil Photrazon Cannons. But I'm off topic...

Peace Kevin (still looking for a Fenchurch)

trust

"I think you should know I'm feeling very depressed..." Did I ever mention that Marvin is my role model?

Shadowcloak [email] http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/Museum/7252/

"Must... stick... head... cold... water..." - Jane Lane

Shadoc64 wrote:

Didn't see that coming. ;-)

I can't resist another couple of quotes. I'm sorry, but my three obsessions in life are MST 3K, Daria, and the Hitchhiker's Guide Trilogy. At any opportunity, I will go off completely on any one of them. BTW, I'm not looking these up and typing them out (although I have them practically memorized...), I'm cutting and pasting from my quotes web page (http://www.geocities.com/southbeach/marina/9417/hhgquotes.html ((Yes, I'm aware that the opening graphic is messed up, (((It should read, "RIVER ACHERON,"))) but Geocities won't let me edit that page's HTML. Don't ask why.))). I won't miss a chance to Share and Enjoy (Or use many parenthesis).

In article , "Kyle" wrote:

Normality. Normalcy was invented by an early 20th-century American president and has since been accepted as a real word.

<< I'd stop watching if Daria ever became an exaggerated cariacture, FWI>>

Well you had better stop immediately then, because Daria is exaggerated. No person could act like her in the real world and get away with it, I know I've tried.

[email] (Jsd19) writes:

Apparently, you're not doing it right. Watch Daria again -- notice how she never actually makes comments where the mundanes can overhear?

• Ian

<<Apparently, you're not doing it right. Watch Daria again -- notice how she never actually makes comments where the mundanes can overhear?>>

But isn't that the point?? So they can hear what you say??? There are no camera's in my life. If I tell to just myself it's pointless.

[email] (Jsd19) writes:

And now you see why it doesn't work for you.

No, that's not the point. The point is to spend all your time muttering to yourself, to amuse yourself. The idea is to imagine that there *is* a camera on you.

Occasionally, you *may* be able to mutter something to a close friend, but that is rare.

No, I'm serious. Daria isn't at all exaggerated. Maybe a little unstable, but, well, I was unstable at that age, too.

• Ian

<<No, that's not the point. The point is to spend all your time muttering to yourself, to amuse yourself. The idea is to imagine that there *is* a camera on you.>>

But she does speak out loud to people. She is sarcastic around others, people are aware of it. So how can you say she just mutters to herself?

[email] (Jsd19) writes:

The only people who hear it are either 1. too oblivious to understand (e.g. Kevin), or 2. wishing that they had the cleverness or guts to say it themselves (e.g. Jane and Jodie)

So, yeah. She doesn't mouth off to anyone who would understand it and be bothered by it. Thus, she doesn't get beat up.

• Ian

<<The only people who hear it are either 1. too oblivious to understand (e.g. Kevin), or 2. wishing that they had the cleverness or guts to say it themselves (e.g. Jane and Jodie)>>

Again exaggeration. There aren't too many people around me that would be oblivious to it. And they sure as hell don't envy me.

In article ,

I've been reading this thread and I tend to agree with you jsd19, Daria is at least a little bit extreme. I, for one, have never met anyone that acts like her or anyone who is not afraid to act like her, for that matter. It's part of the show for her to be that way and she is a little bit exaggerated.

You could get away with it. If you are really good looking and a good fighter.

Jsd19 wrote in article ...

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I've

<<You could get away with it. If you are really good looking and a good fighter.>>

Daria is neither good looking, by conventional standards at least, nor is she a good fighter. I know, I know we've never seen her fight, but she's never had to. And that is my point, she is exaggerated. In real life a person like her would be chewed up and spit out.

Daria: I can beat that.

Quinn: But you don't even HAVE a web page!

Daria: No. But I can hit.

Quinn: Ow! Stop it! OW! MOM!! ~Your main man, CrtoonDude. (AKA, Sgt. Poski`)~

<<Daria: I can beat that.

Quinn: But you don't even HAVE a web page!

Daria: No. But I can hit.

Quinn: Ow! Stop it! OW! MOM!! ~Your main man, CrtoonDude. (AKA, Sgt. Poski`)~>>

Slapping your sister around is one thing, taking on others at school is quite another.

<<Daria: I can beat that.

Quinn: But you don't even HAVE a web page!

Daria: No. But I can hit.

Quinn: Ow! Stop it! OW! MOM!!>>

was i the only one who thought that was unusually (and not amusingly) violent?

catherine

 I love it!  "Daria is neither good looking, by conventional standards at least
..."   Do you in fact watch Daria?  Comprehend vous?  At its very core, Daria is
about: THAT WHICH IS NOT ATTRACTIVE AND POPULAR.
        No, Daria is not attractive and popular.  She's not good looking by
conventional standards.  I am really at a loss for words.  If in fact,  you are
so dense as to not understand.   If you have so completely sold out and bought
into the popular notion: That which is *Not* attractive and popular has no
relevance. Then there is nothing I can say to persuade you otherwise.

CrtoonDude wrote:

Steven McAllister wrote:

Geez. Just because Jsd19 said something that's a little obvious, which we all do at one point or another, is no reason to chew him up and spit him out. Maybe y'all should cut down on the coffe, or switch to decaf...

--J.

Jsd19 wrote in article ...

is she

never had

her

And her remains would be burned, her ashes pureed, and then everyone would stomp really hard on what's left, then pack it up and send it into space on the fastest rocket we have.

You just can't take chances with these kind of people.

Okay, delete my previous "Chew up and spit out" remark, and replace it with "Detest, and ignore".

People who tell the truth (or at least what isn't the conventional idea of whats accepted as the truth) are not attacked physically whenever they open their cake hole, if they pick the time and the place before shooting off their mouths. This is something Daria has proven that she is quite adept at. I know i've gotten away with some really harsh comments because of it

-Mike-
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By whom? (The fashion club? Please.) You can only be "chewed up and spit out" if you're not sure of who you are and what you're doing. Martin Luther didn't get chewed up and spit out and he had the whole Catholic church arrayed against him. Some people are made of sterner stuff.

�S. Mc Allister

Jsd19 wrote:

 I love it!  "Daria is neither good looking, by conventional standards at least
..."   Do you in fact watch Daria?  Comprehend vous?  At its very core, Daria is
about: THAT WHICH IS NOT ATTRACTIVE AND POPULAR.
        No, Daria is not attractive and popular.  She's not good looking by
conventional standards.  I am really at a loss for words.  If in fact,  you are so
dense as to not understand.   If you have so completely sold out and bought into the
popular notion: That which is *Not* attractive and popular has no relevance. Then
there is nothing I can say to persuade you otherwise.

�S. Mc Allister

No, Daria is not attractive and popular. <<She's not good looking by conventional standards. I am really at a loss for words. If in fact, you are so dense as to not understand. If you have so completely sold out and bought into the popular notion: That which is *Not* attractive and popular has no relevance. Then there is nothing I can say to persuade you otherwise.

�S. Mc Allister>>

Ok, now I know I can't even take you seriously, it's obvious you haven't read the entire thread.

I made the claim that people in the REAL world cannot act like Daria. Someone responded by saying that you could if you were good looking or a good fighter. I made it a point to say that Daria was not attractive and could not fight. I did it to point out how unrealistic Darias attitude could effect regular society. That if she existed in the real world,she could not get away with the things she says.

But Daria IS attractive. In fact I'd say she's drop-dead beautiful. (considering that she's a cartoon.) The thing about Daria is that she is attractive, but she chooses to conceal her attractiveness, hiding behind ugly clothes and an attitude. We've seen that she looks pretty good when she's "fixed up."

We've also seen that Daria is more popular than she realizes. There are people who care about her, though she can't quite accept that. Daria lives in a world apart, unattractive and unpopular, by her own choice. Someday she'll realize that.

Bob Henry

In article ,

<<But Daria IS attractive. In fact I'd say she's drop-dead beautiful. (considering that she's a cartoon.) The thing about Daria is that she is attractive, but she chooses to conceal her attractiveness, hiding behind ugly clothes and an attitude. We've seen that she looks pretty good when she's "fixed up.">>

But what I'm saying is that without being fixed up, she does not look attractive. I'm not talking about looking within. I'm saying any schumuck off the streat would take one look at her, and hear here smart ass remarks, would dislike her, and ignore her.

I'm not talking aobut what is inside, I'm talking about what most people see on the outside. Any average person would shun her away in the real world, in addition to wanting to kick her ass for her wit.

On 10 Aug 1998 06:18:11 GMT, [email] (Jsd19) wrote:

i have to disagree with you here. my wife is not what convention would call beautiful and when i first met her she was a very pessimistic and sarcastic person. that didnt make her unattractive and she didnt get her ass kicked for being witty and making fun of people. i dont agree with your argument that people will kick your ass because you are a smartass. most of them will just ignore you which is what most people that are like that seem to want. they dont want to associate with the mainstream. I dont have low self esteem, I have low esteem for everyone else. Dogbert

i have to disagree with you here. my wife is not what convention would call beautiful and when i first met her she was a very pessimistic and sarcastic person. that didnt make her unattractive <<and she didnt get her ass kicked for being witty and making fun of people. i dont agree with your argument that people will kick your ass because you are a smartass. most of them will just ignore you which is what most people that are like that seem to want. they dont want to associate with the mainstream. I dont have low self esteem, I have low esteem for everyone else.>>

Well, you must live in la-la land. Here in New Jersey, people don't just ignore you, they want to be agressive, as if any smart remark is a total and complete insult. So, they want to defend their honor so to speak. I'm telling you, there is no room for Daria in this reality.

Okay, I agree with you about the way Daria acts; in the real world, it can get you in trouble. Lots of people start to hate you. Some even take it to heart. I live in New Jersey as well, so I have an idea of what you're talking about. And people do get aggressive if you piss them off. So I'm with you on that. But I think the thing is, Daria isn't forward with her insults. She doesn't come up to you and say to your face "You're an idiot." She's usually quite subtle. Plus, many of the people she insults don't know they're being insulted. She prefers that people just leave her alone; she doesn't make trouble for herself. Her attitude is unrecognized by most; they ignore her. If you're fortunate to be in her kind of situation, you will most likely be able to avoid a daily beating. That's probably the thin line that creates the difference. I hope that made sense. I feel kind of like I rambled. I just hope you understand what I'm saying.

Okay, I agree with you about the way Daria acts; in the real world, it can get you in trouble. Lots of people start to hate you. Some even take it to heart. I live in New Jersey as well, so I have an idea of what you're talking about. And people do get aggressive if you piss them off. So I'm with you on that. But I think the thing is, Daria isn't forward with her insults. She doesn't come up to you and say to your face "You're an idiot." She's usually quite subtle. Plus, many of the people she insults don't know they're being insulted. <<She prefers that people just leave her alone; she doesn't make trouble for herself. Her attitude is unrecognized by most; they ignore her. If you're fortunate to be in her kind of situation, you will most likely be able to avoid a daily beating. That's probably the thin line that creates the difference. I hope that made sense. I feel kind of like I rambled. I just hope you understand what I'm saying.>>

Finally, someone who gets it. Yes I do understand where you're coming from, and the fact that you are from New Jersey is and added bonus, because you know the score

Thanks

Doesn't matter. It makes sense, though.

I'll try not to sound persecuted here:

My experience is that it doesn't matter if you are directly insulting them or not. It doesn't matter that you want to be by yourself. You are there, and you are percieved as "weak" by their standards. The animal instinct kicks in, and it's all over

DariaM150 wrote in article ...

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In article , [email] (Jsd19) wrote:

telling

jsd, if you ever happen to travel outside New Jersey to expand your horizons, do let us know.

Thanks,

TDH

Here in Illinois, I'll agree with jsd.

Unfortunately, my stubborness combined with my pacifism makes me an easy target, so it may not be indicative of the rest of the world.

Not NJ wrote in article ...

just

total and

<<Here in Illinois, I'll agree with jsd.

Unfortunately, my stubborness combined with my pacifism makes me an easy target, so it may not be indicative of the rest of the world.>>

Thanks Kyle, that makes two so far that see my point.

Note: It's not a comepetition, I'm just keeping tallies.

<<jsd, if you ever happen to travel outside New Jersey to expand your horizons, do let us know.>>

I have been to other places, thank you

Your Welcome

JSD

On 10 Aug 1998 19:00:50 GMT, [email] (Jsd19) wrote:

no sorry i dont live in lala land i grew up in north jersey. when someone insulted you, you insult them back. it was like verbal boxing but no one ever physically fought about it. I dont have low self esteem, I have low esteem for everyone else. Dogbert

<<no sorry i dont live in lala land i grew up in north jersey. when someone insulted you, you insult them back. it was like verbal boxing but no one ever physically fought about it. I dont have low self esteem, I have low esteem for everyone else. Dogbert>>

No, you're right, they don't fight. They just pull the tough guy agressive act on you.

On 10 Aug 1998 23:26:43 GMT, [email] (Jsd19) wrote:

living with a family of ranting italians anyone else seemed calm to me. I dont have low self esteem, I have low esteem for everyone else. Dogbert

<<living with a family of ranting italians anyone else seemed calm to me. I dont have low self esteem, I have low esteem for everyone else. Dogbert>>

Sorry, I wouldn't know, my Italian blood has been diluted over the generations.

Times have changed, or I live in the wrong side of the country.

I've noticed alot of cool people come from Jersey.

Dogbert wrote in article ...

"Whoa, where did you come from?" "JERSEY."

Totally off-topic, but I want to see who gets the reference. A lot of you are animation freaks, it shouldn't be too hard.

Shadowcloak [email] http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/Museum/7252/

"Must... stick... head... cold... water..." - Jane Lane

This _must_ be sarcasm, because the only "cool" people I know in New Jersey come from someplace else(I live near a military base....air force, or something. Who can tell the difference anymore?).

Nope, it's for real. The coolest person I know in real life is from NJ. Most of the cool net people I know live there.

DariaM150 wrote in article ...

Jersey

<<I've noticed alot of cool people come from Jersey.>>

Gotta disagree with you on that one.

I truly resent this. I was born and raised in Jersey. You mean I'm not *cool*?!?!?

Oh, well. I went thru grammar school as a nerd. Junior high as a geek. H.S. doin my own thing. I suppose this newsgroups refusal to see a Jerseyan as cool won't phase me much. But, just to defend my state....

DOWN WITH.... er..... MONTANA!!

<<I truly resent this. I was born and raised in Jersey. You mean I'm not *cool*?!?!?

Oh, well. I went thru grammar school as a nerd. Junior high as a geek. H.S. doin my own thing. I suppose this newsgroups refusal to see a Jerseyan as cool won't phase me much. But, just to defend my state.... >>

Buddy, I was born and raised in New Jersey myself. I'm not refering to coolness, as far as I know Jersey is as cool as any state out there. I'm talking about the asshole factor. There are more assholes per square mile in this state. I'm not saying that you are, but it has been my experience. I do support Jersey, but I support it for what it is.

On 11 Aug 1998 03:14:32 GMT, [email] (Jsd19) wrote:

look how densly populated it is. and are you speaking of north jersey or south jersey? I dont have low self esteem, I have low esteem for everyone else. Dogbert

That's what I mean too. Or maybe I just hate my town itself. Or maybe in actuality I hate the entire human race. I don't know. I'm confused.

<<That's what I mean too. Or maybe I just hate my town itself. Or maybe in actuality I hate the entire human race. I don't know. I'm confused.>>

I don't know either, but if anyone of them in your town acts like TDH, I can understand.

<<look how densly populated it is. and are you speaking of north jersey or south jersey?>>

I'm speaking of North Jersey. I know South Jersey's not as congested.

Did it ever occur to you that LaLa land might be the norm, and whatever violent little burg you come from is the exception?

-Mike-

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<<Did it ever occur to you that LaLa land might be the norm, and whatever violent little burg you come from is the exception?>>

I didn't say violent, I said aggressive. And no, I don't "La La" land is the norm, not at all.

On 13 Aug 1998 06:37:42 GMT, [email] (Jsd19) wrote:

let me see if i can still do this. from the way you talk and your attitude about agressiveness i would say you are most likely from north jersey. maybe close to new york. hackensack area maybe? I dont have low self esteem, I have low esteem for everyone else. Dogbert

<<let me see if i can still do this. from the way you talk and your attitude about agressiveness i would say you are most likely from north jersey. maybe close to new york. hackensack area maybe?>>

Ahh, very good. I live extremely close to New York and Hackensack. Why???? What's the point to this, are you going to tell me that people are nicer anywhere else?? I don't mean to put words in your mouth, but the way you figured my proximity, leads me to believe you'll say that next.

On 13 Aug 1998 13:15:47 GMT, [email] (Jsd19) wrote:

dude dont be so paranoid. just being a north jerseyian (is that a word?) i just see if i can pick other ones out. i am from morris county and they are pretty much assholes there as well.

this is off topic from this discussion but i remember reading a debate over where lawndale is. i dont know if this has been covered but in the episode where jane goes to the reunion her and trent were talking about there aunt from middlebury and that she would be coming in on the same flight. the only states that have both a lawndale and a middlebury are ohio and illinois. I dont have low self esteem, I have low esteem for everyone else. Dogbert

In article , [email] wrote:

Actually "La La Land" is pretty damn aggressive nowadays. You don't hear about "road rage" killings happening in Jersey or NYC.

My husband is from NJ (Plainfield) and he considers LA to be a far scarier and more dangerous place than anywhere on the East Coast. It didn't use to be this way...when he moved out here in 1977 it was a way different place than it is now.

I'm a Native Angeleno myself and having his perspective on things is kind of helpful.

--.\\<-H-- "He held a gun against me...this is a DANGEROUS PLACE" -- King Crimson, "Thela Hun Ginjeet" 1981

On Thu, 13 Aug 1998 10:08:50 -0700, [email] (Michelle Klein-Hass) wrote:

i had a professor from san diego and he said the roads there were the worst he has ever seen. I dont have low self esteem, I have low esteem for everyone else. Dogbert

You can disagree all you want, but I have the scars (and I don't just mean psychological) to disagree. And I wasn't even THAT much of a smart ass.

Daria's being female helps, though.

Dogbert wrote in article ...

On 10 Aug 1998 20:44:53 GMT, "Kyle" wrote:

well i was a smartass and i never got my ass kicked. i still think you are missing the subtlety of daria's wit. yes if you go up and call someone an asshole to their face you are most likely to get in a fight but snide well placed comments about people can be gotten away with.

I dont have low self esteem, I have low esteem for everyone else. Dogbert

I didn't miss the subtlety, they did. It's just the fact that you are smaller than them, and you dared say something that wasn't groveling.

Dogbert wrote in article ...

mean

Daria needs counseling. She has issues and should set an example on how best to deal with them. The stress of growing up in today's america is obviously what motivates this show, but is there a cure?????

I just want to say that I love this show and I don't want this to sound like a lecture or any thing but, Daria is a CARTOON! She was created to ENTERTAIN us! If she went in to counseling she'd become an ordinary ho-hum character that nobody would want to watch! I like Daria as the smart ass she is.

Liz

In article , [email] (Laniakea) wrote:

Besides, from experience there is not cure :)

Counseling can't "cure" someone if they don't want to be cured. Remember the self-esteem class? Daria went through that, and she's the same as she was B&B. And I'm sure all of Daria's ills may be "cured" when she leaves high school and is not quite so exposed to blatant idiocy.

-Mindy "When you close your eyes, do you like what you see inside your mind?"

and is not quite so exposed to blatant idiocy.<<

Guess what? When you leave high school, the blatant idiots are... still idiots. And there are soooo many more of them to deal with.

Peace Kevin

On 31 Aug 1998 23:47:38 GMT, [email] (KTrick45) wrote:

And they usually end up in management, where we smart people refer to them as Pointy-Haired Bosses.

Dilbert... it's not just a comic strip, it's a way of life.

Martin (To send E-mail, remove the "nospam" from my E-mail address.) ---- Quinn: You kids know where Grandma's TV is. Go watch something educational. TV: "Breast implants for chickens???" Quinn & Daria: Not that!!

I was hoping that wouldn't be true.... all of the sudden my longing to be an adult has died out, (Or maybe I'll get lucky and write a best-seller before I turn 16...... I wish.....) Oh well..... Life must be 'ell from 3rd grade up.....

-Kazul the sbfdwap

-Lemmings!! I'm surrounded by lemmings!!!

Who was it that said school is just a training camp for real life? Was it Jefferson? Anyway.. they only get worse after puberty.

~Susan

[email] (ScottyGal2) wrote:

True, but if you're really lucky, you get paid to deal with the idiots in the real world.

Wouln't it be cool if they paid you in inverse proportion to the IQ of the idiot you dealt with? <g>

rich.

"Absolute certainty is stasis, boring. We need uncertainty -- it's the only way to go." -- Dr. Leon Lederman, physicist.

Now that would be math that you could use in real life.. not the quantum physics that you learn in high school.

And if all of the intelligent people in the world got paid that much, the idiots would still be richer...

Susan

In article ,

Hey!!! I use quantum physics(no joke here, but I get your point)

To quote Mr. O'Niell:"Sad, but true"

[email] ([email]) writes:

That would be wonderful. Imagine all those tech support people driving around in their Ferarris -- one for each day of the week, and flying their private planes to their private islands. . .

• Ian

[email] (Jsd19) writes:

Dorthy Parker existed. And she's basically what Daria would be if she drank.

• Ian

In article ,

<<"Maybe I flatter myself, but I think I could be a professional writer if I put my mind to it. A bitter, angry hack who starts fistfights at cocktail parties - I could do that job."

Just because she says she can do it, doesn't mean she can pull it off.

In article , [email] (Jsd19) wrote:

writer if I

She could *easily* pull that off. What about Daria makes you think otherwise? Do you actually watch the show, or do you read the posts on the ng and figure out a way to be contrary (sign of a true troll)?

You know, jsd, if you put up a post that makes sense, I'm going to accuse YOU of being out of character.

• TDH

Let me say this with all due respect...you're deliberately trying to start a flamewar here. I think YOU are acting more like a troll than he is.

In article , [email] wrote:

Joe, Joe, Joe...this is simply not the case. I am just trying to push jsd along to some other group where his nonsense will be more welcome. It's certainly tiring here.

• TDH

<<Joe, Joe, Joe...this is simply not the case. I am just trying to push jsd along to some other group where his nonsense will be more welcome. It's certainly tiring here.

- TDH>>

Look asshole, I'm not going anywhere, no matter what you do. And you say that I talk nonsense, well I most certainly haven't heard one worthwhile thing come out of your mouth. I think you're full of nonsense. You care nothing for anyone elses views. You're a snotty little punk who hides behind a little pussy spam blocking e-mail device. While I stand firmly behind my adress and all the junk mail most of you buttfucks have more than likely sent me. I think you are the one who needs to move on.

JSD

In article , [email] (Jsd19) wrote:

thing come

I think

"Pussy"?

"Buttfucks"?

I see.

• TDH

<<"Pussy"?

"Buttfucks"?

I see.>>

• TDH

Are you sure??? If not I can explain it to you. Someone of even you level intelligence could comprehend it.

Who died and made you king of alt.tv.daria? If you want to disagree with his opinion that's one thing, but if you can't do it in a reasonably respectful way then don't bother replying.

In article , [email] wrote:

Ahhhhhhhh, now *you're* giving orders.

Interesting.

What was that about "king of a.t.d"?

• TDH

<<Ahhhhhhhh, now *you're* giving orders.

Interesting.

What was that about "king of a.t.d"?

- TDH>>

Let me translate. I believe he was calling you a haughty fuck, except he was being nice about it. I am not bound that restriction though.

She could *easily* pull that off. What about <<Daria makes you think otherwise? Do you actually watch the show, or do you read the posts on the ng and figure out a way to be contrary (sign of a true troll)?

You know, jsd, if you put up a post that makes sense, I'm going to accuse YOU of being out of character.

- TDH>>

And if you act in a way other than an asshole, I might accuse you of the same. Okay, TRY and pay attention for once........

Have you ever seen Daria fight??? No, neither have I. Does that mean she can't fight? No, I don't know that for sure. BUT, we have not seen it happen, no writers has even touched that area yet. Maybe, just maybe my theory on her is right. The whole show is exagerrated, they know damn well that a person like Daria in our world would have gotten into at least one fight by now. And I'm not talking about her pounding on her little sister, I mean A fight with someone her age her size, or bigger.

Jsd19 wrote:

I insult the idiots at my school all the time, and so far I've never even come *close* to starting to begin to get near a fistfight. All they do is get really pissed and tell me to fuck off, with a few added glares.

I'm sorry you have to live with hundreds (thousands?) of people who suck even more than the people I live with.

--J.

In article , [email] (Jsd19) wrote:

same.

My...how original. How do you think up these incredibly witty retorts?

Yes, dear boy.

happen,

now. And

Wow! You've just started a whole new thread. How violent can Daria be? Can she beat up Wonder Woman? How about Lisa Simpson? Can Daria thump Scooby Doo? Just how would a fight between Daria and Betty Rubble turn out, anyway? I just can't wait to hear what everyone has to say on these important subjects.

jsd, you have the troll schtick down perfectly.

Here's hoping you're not serious,

TDH

<<Wow! You've just started a whole new thread. How violent can Daria be? Can she beat up Wonder Woman? How about Lisa Simpson? Can Daria thump Scooby Doo? Just how would a fight between Daria and Betty Rubble turn out, anyway? I just can't wait to hear what everyone has to say on these important subjects.

jsd, you have the troll schtick down perfectly.

Here's hoping you're not serious,

TDH>>

You really don't get it do you??? I sometimes wonder how old YOU actually are.

[email] (The Boxer) writes:

Possibly the George Perez Wonder Woman, since she was actually an envoy of peace from the Amazons, and would try to talk to Daria. I guess she couldn't really *beat up* the George Perez Wonder Woman, but I think it would turn into a discussion.

She wouldn't. But the two of them together could wipe out Milhouse *and* Upchuck.

Yes.

Daria, definately.

I just can't wait to hear what everyone has to say on these

There ya go!

• Ian

In article ,

That a rather defeatest attitude, I hope that not indicitive of your generation...if so...we are in big trouble.

<<That a rather defeatest attitude, I hope that not indicitive of your generation...if so...we are in big trouble.>>

No I'm being honest. I say I can sprout wings and fly, is that going to happen??? And I'd appreciate it if no came up with a smart ass reply to that one. The point is, I cannot spread wings and fly. Just because I think it, doesn't mean it could happen.

[email] (Jsd19) writes:

She could.

• Ian

jsd19 wrote:

if I

All I'll say is - those boots. Would you want to fight with her?

Shadowcloak [email] http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/Museum/7252/

"Must... stick... head... cold... water..." - Jane Lane

<<All I'll say is - those boots. Would you want to fight with her?>>

Hmmmmm, good point.

I don't think Daria wants to actually fight, just get the other guests at the cocktail party so riled up that they start fighting each other.

Jeg7777 wrote:

Yeah, that's what I was thinking.

It sounds much more like something Daria would do, don't you all think? Incedentally... my Mom and her friend used to do this for fun when they were in their twenties. Get a bunch of people fighting, then quietly slip out the door. I come from a strange, strange family...

--J.

Shadoc64 wrote:

My friend has steel toed boots much like Daria's. She may not be the best fighter... but one day some annoying dude at her school grabbed her ass. She turned around and hit him square on in the balls, with those gigantic boots. That was one thing I would have paid to see...

--J.

Jessica Liotta wrote in message ...

She

boots. That

Hell, there's people in Hollywood who would have paid to turn in into a TV series.

Amen.

Carole

On 10 Aug 98 16:04:16 GMT, [email] (Xiphias Gladius) wrote:

<<Some people are made of sterner stuff.>>

Figures you would back up a cartoon by quoting a cartoon. Didn't Optimus Prime say that??

In article , [email] (Jsd19) wrote:

Prime

Not til long after a real person did. It's an old saying, prolly before your time. Definitely way before this "Optimus Prime", whatever that is.

Optimus Prime was the head of the Transformers, thank you very much.

I trace most of my messed up personality to the fact that when I was much littler (I still am relatively little), I got all the transformers except him. I really wanted him, but he was really hard to find.

He was a eighteen-wheeler that turned into a robot.

Lee Ann Rucker wrote in article ...

[email]

Optimus

<<Not til long after a real person did. It's an old saying, prolly before your time. Definitely way before this "Optimus Prime", whatever that is.>>

Okay, who originally wrote that??? You don't know who Optimus Prime is??? Ever heard of Transformers??

        I love it!  "Daria is neither good looking, by conventional standards at
least ..."   Do you in fact watch Daria?  Comprehend vous?  At its very core, Daria
is about: THAT WHICH IS NOT ATTRACTIVE AND POPULAR.
        No, Daria is not attractive and popular.  She's not good looking by
conventional standards.  I am really at a loss for words.  If in fact,  you are so
dense as to not understand.   If you have so completely sold out and bought into
the popular notion: That which is *Not* attractive and popular has no relevance.
Then there is nothing I can say to persuade you otherwise.

Jsd19 wrote:

you kinda took this out of context.

I wrote the fighter part, so I'm not jumping in here.

The question that I answered was:

Could you get away with acting like Daria in real life? Most of the people treat her rather nicely, if a little distant.

Steven McAllister wrote in article ...

standards at

core, Daria

by

you are so

bought into

relevance.

good

nor is she

never had

like her

        I love it!  "Daria is neither good looking, by conventional standards at
least ..."   Do you in fact watch Daria?  Comprehend vous?  At its very core, Daria
is about: THAT WHICH IS NOT ATTRACTIVE AND POPULAR.
        No, Daria is not attractive and popular.  She's not good looking by
conventional standards.  I am really at a loss for words.  If in fact,  you are so
dense as to not understand.   If you have so completely sold out and bought into
the popular notion: That which is *Not* attractive and popular has no relevance.
Then there is nothing I can say to persuade you otherwise.

Jsd19 wrote:

        I love it!  "Daria is neither good looking, by conventional standards at
least ..."   Do you in fact watch Daria?  Comprehend vous?  At its very core, Daria
is about: THAT WHICH IS NOT ATTRACTIVE AND POPULAR.
        No, Daria is not attractive and popular.  She's not good looking by
conventional standards.  I am really at a loss for words.  If in fact,  you are so
dense as to not understand.   If you have so completely sold out and bought into
the popular notion: That which is *Not* attractive and popular has no relevance.
Then there is nothing I can say to persuade you otherwise.

Jsd19 wrote:

 I love it!  "Daria is neither good looking, by conventional standards at least
..."   Do you in fact watch Daria?  Comprehend vous?  At its very core, Daria is
about: THAT WHICH IS NOT ATTRACTIVE AND POPULAR.
        No, Daria is not attractive and popular.  She's not good looking by
conventional standards.  I am really at a loss for words.  If in fact,  you are so
dense as to not understand.   If you have so completely sold out and bought into
the popular notion: That which is *Not* attractive and popular has no relevance.
Then there is nothing I can say to persuade you otherwise.

Jsd19 wrote:

On 4 Aug 1998 00:23:39 GMT, [email] (Jsd19) wrote:

Fortunately for me, I disagree strongly with your opinion (and, from what I've been able to gather, so does almost everyone else here), but that's cool. If everyone agreed completely, it'd be pretty boring. :-)

Martin ---- Quinn: Daria, you can't leave me here with those, those yuppies! Daria: Yuppies are from the 80s. Quinn: So, what do you call people with funny outfits who talk about peace and love and stuff? Daria: Trekkies. ---- To send E-mail, remove the "nospam" from my E-mail address.

<<Fortunately for me, I disagree strongly with your opinion (and, from what I've been able to gather, so does almost everyone else here), but that's cool. If everyone agreed completely, it'd be pretty boring. :-)>>

Part of having an opinion is not to worry about those who are against you. I do worry sometimes, but not on this board, especially when I feel I can convey my thoughts in thought out manner. In public is another story. Most aren't afraid to tell it like it is, I tend to back down in that environment.

In article , [email] (Martin J. Pollard) wrote:

   Daria is normal?  Oh no, that means I'm normal, and I never wanted to be.
I guess I'll have to burst the bubbles of my former high school class mates
and tell them all that I'm normal.  They thought I was one of the weirdest
freaks alive.  Of course "normal" doesn't really exist anyway.
      Jennifer

To reply, remove NOSPAM from email address.

In article , [email] (Jsd19) wrote:

in

hottie>>

I've been in her place - I've done it.

(Well, not bellybutton...)