episode 501 clip

Feb 3, 2001, 8:56 AM ET19 posts by 7 posters
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M Man

THIS MESSAGE CONTAINS SPOILERS FOR SEASON 5 - EPISODE 501 - BASED ON MTV'S CLIP OF THE WEEK. IF YOU DON'T WANT TO KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT THIS EPISODE, TURN BACK NOW!!! . ALSO, THIS MESSAGE CONTAINS SOME (INDIRECT) SPOILERS FOR DDMD/IIFY . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Did anyone else check out the "clip of the week" at MTV's web site? It looks like a clip for episode 501 - but no name for the episode that I can see.

Unlike the previous seasons' clips, this clip is fairly long - about two minutes.

It looks like the subject of the episode is a budget shortfall at LHS. The clip opens with Lawndale Sun-Herald headlines about a rejected tax increase.

Then we see three scenes of the effects of the budget problem - O'Neill handing out badly photocopied chapters of "Faust", DeMartino asking Jodie to point out Chechnya on a USSR-era map, Defoe giving her art class a painting assignment with no red paint.

The last bit shows O'Neill in the bleachers watching football practice with Ms Li. O'Neill is asking her why money she's spending on security measures can't be diverted to academic supplies. Then Ms Li notices Jamie White not participating in the practice; when asked why, he replies his facemask broke and can't be replaced. At this point, Ms Li declares that the budget problems must be fixed. End of clip.

Hmmm.

Well, to those worried from DDMD/IIFY that Daria may be turning into a teen romance - no sign of that here. No sign of romance. No sign of Tom. In fact...

Very little sign of ... uh, what's that girl they named the show after? ... oh, yes, DARIA. Her only speaking part in the whole two minutes is her reaction to receiving O'Neill's barely legible "Faust" handout - she says she can just make out the words "impending migraine" (fact check - are migraines caused by eyestrain? I don't think so - does anyone know).

Two minutes - that's about a full tenth of the non-commercial running time of a Daria episode. This SHOULD be a representative sample of the episode. I'm not sure what to make of it. "Daria" as political commentary? I hope not. I think I'd prefer teen romance. I can't say it's whetted my appetite for season 5. Not that I'll miss it. But 99- to-1 says this will not be one of my favorite episodes.

Has anyone else seen the clip and would like to comment? Has anyone heard more about this episode? Does anyone know what it's supposed to be called?

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FirahM Man

"M Man" wrote in message news:95h2mg$24f$[email]...

Well the clip is titled "Show #501" so I think you're right.

Uh oh. Sounds like that tired old plot device; Ms Li and FUND RAISING!

Oh God.

<SIGH>

I have a feeling Peggy Nicoll wrote this episode...

...or someone's doing a damn good copy of her.

Before you guys rip on me about what I just said, I will mention this: "Just Add Water" and "Fair Enough"

Both stories were in the same vein.

One was awful and the other was...a little left of alright.

I'm not saying she writes bad scripts all the time. I mean "Fire", "The Daria Hunter", "The Lab Brat" and "Daria Dance Party" were wonderful. However, when she sucks, (Murder She Snored!) even light can't escape.

Pleeeeeeease God! Let me be wrong!

Headaches can be caused by eyestrain but migraines? Is anyone one out there that can enlighten us? Is there an an optometrist reading this newgroup?

I really hope you're wrong but I have a bad feeling that your not.

I ran over to the MTV site after this post to check it out. I noticed they're redoing the Daria page. At least it isn't so convoluted anymore.

No

No

M ManFirah

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I've never seen "Fair Enough", but I agree with your analysis of the other episodes.

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legible "Faust"

migraine"

Yep, that was my point. And isn't Daria into medical stuff? And as much as she reads, she ought to be at least a lay expert on eyestrain.

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Oh, well. There writers DID once make a great episode out of a goalpost falling and killing a jerk of an ex-football star. If anyone can do it ...

And if not - 12 more episodes of season 5 yet to come.

anymore.

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KTrick45M Man

M Man wrote:

She's into medical oddities. I don't think she's that knowledgeable about medicine in general. Otherwise, she'd have known that a chocolate bar can *save*, not *kill*, someone who's hypoglycemic. (Cafe Disaffecto).

Peace Kevin

M ManKTrick45

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I've never figured out how Mrs Johansen has survived all the way to season 4 (Mart of Darkness). Talk about medical oddities!

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Michelle Klein-HassFirah

In article , "Firah" wrote:

OK, here it is from Viacom's own press release...judge for yourself (apologies for crappy formatting)

Here's the link to the whole press release:

http://www.viacom.com/press.tin?ixPressRelease=60003246

It might work, it might suck. However, first episode of the season is usually a Glenn Eichler episode, so odds are this will be good.

Take care,
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Get rid of the "NOPE" and change the other caps into numbers and that's my address...sorry about the spamblock. A little slice of Daria's living Hell on the Internet: http://www.lawndalecommons.com/ !
FirahMichelle Klein-Hass

"Michelle Klein-Hass" wrote in message news:[email]...

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O'Neill

security

Li

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Well I guess they haven't done the 'corporate sponsor' angle yet so I'll be more forgiving!

Especially since it's Glenn writing the ep. He hasn't done a bad one yet.

Thanks for the 411...

Firah

M ManFirah

In article , "Firah" wrote:

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THIS MESSAGE CONTAINS SPOILERS FOR SEASON 5 - EPISODE 501 - BASED ON MTV'S CLIP OF THE WEEK. IF YOU DON'T WANT TO KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT THIS EPISODE, TURN BACK NOW!!! . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .

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Still no episode title yet. I keep checking tvgrid.com for one.

So, a Ms Li-fundraising episode it is. Let's hope more up to the quality of "This Year's Model" than "Just Add Water".

Ms Li mentioned a satellite-transmission jammer in the clip. Isn't that a bit over the top - even for her? (Yes, she does have limits. Even she was appalled by the mercenary recruiters in "This Year's Model".)

Ultra Cola, huh?

<Quinn>

Can I have a soda?

</Quinn>

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FirahM Man

"M Man" wrote in message news:95jnkm$tbf$[email]...

I remember they did do the corporate sponsorship thing, to a lesser degree, in 'Jake Of Hearts'.

You know those Z98 'wacky morning dj's'.

It was done as a side plot. It was not a great episode but it was *good*.

It definately had it's moments....

Tiffany: Upchuck? Eeeeeeeeeeewwwww!

With a teensy twist of lime...:P

Joe GottmanM Man

"M Man" wrote in message news:95jnkm$tbf$[email]...

In "This Year's Model", I got the feeling she was mostly appalled that the mercenary recruiters came in without her knowing about it beforehand. Ms Li is more a control freak than out-and-out greedy. That's why the funds she misappropriates go into unneeded security devices for the school rather than a new Porche for herself.

Joe Gottman

FirahJoe Gottman

"Joseph Gottman" wrote in message news:CBkf6.29527$[email]...

Okay I can agree with that.

Hah!

In 'The F Word' she inadvertentely told everyone she was getting a $50 Per Diem when Mr DeMartino mentioned that they <other teachers> were only getting a $20 Per Diem.

You can't buy too many security devices with $50?

I think she has enough handcuffs, thumbscrews, and bamboo shoots don't ya think?

Also in 'Mart Of Darkness' at the Thompson's barbecue she made sure that she got ALL of the food reciepts from Mr O'Neil. so she, I mean the SCHOOL, could right it off.

<quote>

Ms Li: "Damn!"

</unquote>

I can safely say without a doubt that she is *greedy*...

rather

Hmmmm. She could be rolling in Porsche...

We don't know exactly what type of car Ms Li drives...unless I missed *that* episode.

Firah

M ManJoe Gottman

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beforehand.

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I'd prefer money-lusters over power-lusters any day. Much less dangerous.

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ryablorFirah
   Fizz Ed
   30 min.
   Daria battles a corporate takeover of Lawndale
High in the animated comedy's
   sharp-witted fifth-season opener.
   Times are tough at Lawndale. Cutbacks on
supplies (such as face masks for the
   football team) have prompted Principal Li to
allow the Ultra Cool soda company to
   advertise inside the high school in exchange for
a subsidy. Daria, however, thinks
   such an arrangement is unethical. Because
Principal Li doesn't see a problem
   (�You drink soda, don't you?� she asks Daria), a
reluctant Daria realizes if she
   wants the in-school marketing stopped, she must
do it herself. But can she
   persuade the school superintendent to agree?
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M Manryablor

In article , [email] wrote:

THIS MESSAGE CONTAINS SPOILERS FOR SEASON 5 - EPISODE 501. IF YOU DON'T WANT TO KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT THIS EPISODE, TURN BACK NOW!!! . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .

We all realize, of course, that drinking soda will now be ...

<Ms Li>

... * MANDATORY! *
</Ms Li>

I just hope the episode isn't called "Just Add Soda".

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Al BM Man

Front page of the Lawndale Sun-Herald: Voters Reject Property Tax Increase for Third Consecutive Year. Schools Face Cuts. Photo of governor of the Sovereign State of Whatever: "'Crap!' Governor Says."

Never mind that property taxes are collected by counties and parishes -- not by states -- so why does the governor give a crap?

Isn't that edition under copyright?! Hell, next they'll be stealing whole TV episodes over the Internet!

Jodie points out that Chechnya declared independence after 1991, and that the map was printed before then.

But no country, nor the UN, has recognized Chechen independence, and Russia is occupying it, so why would it appear on any map as anything other than a region of Russia? I think the script editor's pager just went off.

authorities think he doesn't need any school materials made after V-E day.

But wouldn't this be the brand-new replacement for the one torn in IIFY?

Isn't the whole "The System's Screwed Up because Jocks get more Money and Attention than Brains!" thing just about played out? <DeMartino>Maybe they sould RERUN some of the many APPARENTLY better-written EPISODES they've already produced in this VEIN!</DeMartino>

Sigh...I guess they need filler episodes...but why lead the season with one?

If one is to do political commentary, one should at least the the political facts straight.

Or romance of any kind.

Agreed.

M ManAl B

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I think "Faust" is generally in the public domain by 2001. Not sure about particular translations or editions.

And I can't imagine anyone actually stealing TV episodes over the Internet! :-)

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Russia is

than a region

I wondered about that too. Maybe it has provincial status and didn't under the USSR? I don't know.

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M ManAl B

In article , [email] (Al B) wrote: THIS MESSAGE CONTAINS SPOILERS FOR SEASON 5 - EPISODE 501 - BASED ON MTV'S CLIP OF THE WEEK. IF YOU DON'T WANT TO KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT THIS EPISODE, TURN BACK NOW!!! . ALSO, THIS MESSAGE CONTAINS SOME (INDIRECT) SPOILERS FOR DDMD/IIFY . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .

that the

Russia is

than a region

day.

IIFY?

The map torn in IIFY was a map of the United States. Of course, US borders haven't changed since Alaska and Hawaii became states in 1959. I hope they weren't just getting around to updating for that!

You're right about Chechnya, though. No school map would show it as independent.

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Al BM Man

SPOILERS

Ah, well...win some, lose some. As punishment, I'll re-watch IIFY tomorrow night. :-)

Another thought...the quarterback gets hurt, quits, and the school team loses, sending the entire town into a panic because they have a losing team. People even think about fleeing the Zip Code.

This is the kind of community that wouldn't tax itself to death for good schools?!

Al

M ManAl B

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1959.

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team loses,

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Well, the real financial problem at Lawndale High is that Ms Li is spending all the money on satellite jammers and bulletproof skylights instead of maps and books. As O'Neill suggests in the clip.

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