Considering the fact that we know that Aunt Amy's going to make a return appearance, I'd say it's more than likely that this is Aunt Amy's episode.
Yes, you can't judge an episode by it's subject matter (well, most episodes) -- you have to judge it by its execution of the storyline. For example, the aforementioned "Lucky Strike" was great because it had great lines, interesting situations, and enabled Daria and Quinn to grow as a result of their experiences. Some episodes may have intriguing ideas, but suffer from poor execution -- I think "Groped by an Angel" might be an example of that one.
Well, A lot of episodes are not really about their *ostensible* subject matter. Lucky Strike was not really about the Lawndale faculty and their union negotiations; ILAP wasn't really about the parade; DDMD wasn't about hair-dying; "Prize Fighters" may also have a subject matter deeper than an academic award - maybe a big fight between Daria and Tom :-(
I certainly agree about "Groped by an Angel". It was disappointing.
M Man
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Ms. Li: Welcome back, students, and remember, the school nurse is in and ready to take your voluntary urine sample. Show your Lawndale High spirit with the gift of urine!
Know all men by these presents, that the aforesaid "Shadow" did write in news:eNiN6.703$[email], on the date of 18 May 2001:
You're not alone - I thought that episode was excellent, and was quite surprised by the generally hostile reaction to it. The scene at the end where Daria and Quinn discuss the existence of God mirrored conversations I've had, and showed real growth on Daria's part, I thought. And I've had so many experiences like Trent's, in which I tried to explain something that was completely clear to me only to have the other person persistently misunderstand me - I thought that was great. That show also has one of Spiral's best songs, the Upchuck/Ashley-Amber scene, and lots of other great touches (the program that Quinn is watching at the beginning, and Daria's reaction; the scene where Jamie, Joey and Jeffy confront Mr. O'Neill; Helen claiming that her legal work had its spiritual side). It's definitely a keeper.
That's the funny thing about Daria episodes. No matter what the general consensus is, there will be those who like, or even love an episode that is universally disliked by everyone else.
Personally I liked 'Depth Takes A Holiday' and that episode is despised by most Daria fans.
<Go Guy Fawkes Day!>
I don't CARE if the Daria cognoscenti doesn't like it because if I'm watching the episode, and enjoying it, then no one else's opinion counts!
I won't try and convince you into not liking 'Groped By An Angel' for the simple reason is that it really doesn't matter in the least what I or anyone else, thinks of it.
If you liked it, more power to you. If you got something more out of it, even better.
I thought the episode was mediocre to bad. Why? Because it seemed just plain dull to me.
If there's one ep that it seems *everybody* liked, it was "Write Where It Hurts", possibly the best 'Daria' ep ever. I haven't read a single post (really) that put it down at all. Thanks.
Know all men by these presents, that the aforesaid "Firah" did write in news:MknN6.6557$[email], on the date of 18 May 2001: [My defense of 'Groped by an Angel' snipped]
But I liked that episode too! Among the many great moments is a look at Sandi's tenderer side:
Sandi - Oh, yeah. That is the worst and cruelest thing they could do to you.
Quinn - It's no fair making a popular person compete with a new baby.
Sandi - Really. They're so cute when they smile at you. "Hello, precious."
Quinn - Sandi!
Sandi - Oh, sorry.
(Thank God for Outpost Daria! I especially love Janie Mertz's voice acting in that scene.)
That's precisely the way I feel.
I understand, and I wasn't arguing that anybody should have a different opinion; I was just pointing out to Shadow that someone else also liked 'Groped by an Angel.' Didn't mean to come off sounding like the official 'Daria' arbiter!
Definitely. I didn't much like GBAA either (though I certainly didn't HATE it) and I have my own popularly-disliked favorites: Legends of the Mall, Of Human Bonding, and, most of all, Daria! (if any of you ever watch that episode with me, be prepared: I like to sing along :-) ).
I've found most Daria episodes get better with repeated viewings, *especially* the ones I didn't like at first. Maybe after I've seen "Fizz Ed" for the 50th time ....
Nah.
Yep.
Yep again.
M Man
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Quinn: I'm not taking anyone's side, Sandi. I'm just saying that sometimes people get put in awkward positions. Like a girl who has to wear huge braces in fifth grade, and years later her brothers find pictures of her with them and give those pictures to a friend, who hasn't shown them to anyone *out of the goodness of her heart*. YET!
I liked the nostalgia aspect the best, though the legends themselves weren't bad - Metal-Mouth was hilarious (Whatth the differenth between a file and rathp?), as was Daria in the role of a 1950s girl (Dad, you G.D. idiot!).
I remember a survey last year on this ng in which people were asked to name their least favorite episode. I think "Daria!" was the clear winner in that category - it was certainly mentioned a lot.
Speaking of that episode, has anyone noticed that the title of the opening and closing song, "Morning in the 'Burbs", is a very loose translation of Morgendorffer?
I've seen it three times so far - the second time was the day after it aired; I rewatched it because I couldn't believe it could really have been that bad. I watched my tape of it just the other week because I was watching all of season 5 again.
Maybe some day I'll see the point of that episode. It was supposed to be funny, right?
M Man
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Quinn: Was Marie Antoinette pretty?
David: They said she was a great beauty. Of course, you won't find a lot of people willing to call their absolute monarch butt-ugly.
Medieval villagers didn't commute into town to work. They worked the fields nearby, or else made shoes or hats or horseshoes or whatever in local shops i the village, for local consumption.
Actually, daily life in medieval Morgendorff could be a fanfic ...
M Man
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Daria: "Melody Powers sighed as she began picking what was left of Misha out of her hair. She'd look into less aggressive explosives back at HQ after her rendezvous with Team Algiers and the intriguing Edouard. 'I hope he's the strong, silent type,' she thought, flicking away one of Misha's molars. 'I've already had one man go to pieces on me today.'"
I liked "Daria!" as well, mainly because I love musicals. Also liked the Speed Racer reference in the song "Gah-gah-damnit!" because I liked the Speed Racer show when it was on TV -- however, Racer X was my favorite character on that show, not Speed.
"Depth Takes a Holiday" was also one that I liked, and that's why I was surprised that Mike Quinn gave it such a bad grade in his Delayed Reaction Review. I wouldn't say it was one of the best episodes out there, but I'd hardly say it was the worst, either.
Yes, I think the more mediocre episodes get better over time, though that also goes for the better episodes, too.
You know, when I watched the show, I also wanted to tell Speed who Racer X really was, if only because of Speed's desire for his older brother, Rex, to come home. Never did, of course. :)
That was a funny line. :) Incidentally, the episode was apparently meant as a satire of all those shows that have a holiday episode, especially sitcoms. I thought it was a rather funny satire.
Vocal harping by a small but vocal group of Internet posters does not and never will constitude "general consensus" or "univesal dislike".
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