I went to Barnes and Noble but they didn't have it! Where can you find it? What section of the store, and who is it by? THis would help a lot. Thanks!
Daria Diaries
On 6 Feb 1999 17:03:11 GMT, [email] (MiniCat155) wrote:
I went to 4 local book stores before I gave up and ordered them from amazon.com.
Look in the Television or Humor section.
There are currently two books available: The Daria Diaries by Anne D. Bernstein The Daria Database by Peggy Nicoll
That's where I got the Daria Database from. I've been to my local Borders bookstore several times and I still haven't seen Daria's Database. But I did find the Daria Diaries there in the humor section. I guess they didn't reorder anymore of them because I never saw the book there again. Liz ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ Need to get your sweetheart something for Valentine's Day? Then visit my page at http://members.aol.com/Laniakea/bracelet.html to order a handmade bead bracelet.
I haven't found these at any of the local bookstores, and also none of the libraries in the LLC has it (that's basically all the surrounding counties)... so I'm ordering my own and my mom's gonna try to slip them into an arts grant for the Fremont Library, where she works :) ... hey, 791, that's gotta be arts. Of course so is 796, which is sports. Never mind, I could talk about the Dewey Decimal System all night, but... I won't
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[email] (Eccles9697) wrote:
I *knew* it was only a matter of time until we got to the Dewey Decimal System... :-) Actually I'm surprised that there hasn't already been a vicious debate bewteen supporters of it and the Library of Congress system. (*cringes at the bad memory of a summer library job as a freshman-- I'd rather clean out a grease trap.*)
rich.
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Rich wrote:
The Library Science professor I mentioned a while back was absolutely passionate about that topic. Wierd. Very, very wierd.
Peace Kevin
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Well, I'll come out firmly on the side of the Library of Congress system. 26 major categories allows for much more precise classification than the mere 10 provided by Dewey. Then, of course, the flow of categorization flows more cleanly than Dewey decimal. I've always felt that Dewey Decimal's complete ignoring of fiction made it less than useful for large libraries. Of course, this makes me wonder what the poor Euros, who lack a congress to have a library of, make use of in their libraries? Any of our bibliophiles from the continent want to jump in on this?
reunlurking to talk about his passion, Cappadocius
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The British Library is the UK equivalent of the Library of Congress, in that copies of all published works must be deposited there. I'm not certain which classification system UK libraries use, I have a feeling it's Dewey, as ISTR most library books have a decimal number taped on the spine.
Then of course there's ISBN, which is the number you need when you go to a bookshop...
-Shez.
Shez wrote:
*sigh* This'll teach me to keep my big mouth shut. <g>
I still have this nightmare every now and then about having to do a really dreadful summer job I had as a freshman in college... I dream that I have the inglorious task of refreshing the shelf list-- a now anachronistic index of cards, sorted by alphabetical LC "address." All I had to do was replace temporary cards with the actual printed cards. 39.75 hours per week, $3.35 an hour. The worst part was that the only radio stations I could get in either played bubble gum pop or the campus station, for which the phrase "all over the road" was a gross understatment. *shudder*
Oh, wait, that wasn't a nightmare... I actually *did* that for 3 months while taking a foreign language class each session. Blech.
Well, it warms my heart to think that every single card I replaced has been shredded into Happy Meal boxes by now... oh, wait, that'd mean all my work was destroyed... now I don't feel any better at all!
rich.
(Oh, and if you're wondering just *how* AOR the campus station was, well, let's just say that they'd play Hank Williams Sr., followed by "some really cool Hungarian Folk Music" the DJ listened to while he and 5 of his friends "roadtripped to Mexico in a 69 VW Bug with no A/C," followed by some DKs, then maybe a little Skid Roper and Mojo Nixon (BTW, Elvis *is* Everywhere) .... you get the idea, I hope.)
Jane: Usually when I have this dream I'm wearing pink taffeta.
On Mon, 08 Feb 1999 08:00:14 GMT, [email] (paperpusher) wrote:
Dude, that sounds so cool! Or maybe just hilarious. Still, I'd put that DJ among the Great Ones... a list of people who attempt to be entertaining in one way, but just end up being hilarious... I believe the word is bathos...
Our own campus station (California State University of Fresno) is described as the station where you'll here "music you won't here anywhere else".
[email] (Tarvok) wrote:
I guess I gave too many examples of the *good* music they played... they also played a lot of stuff that was, well, to put it kindly, awful. Some of it sounded like cats being dragged over a chalkboard floor into the vet's examining room... yowling and screeching away. I mean, there's "edgy," and then there's "crappy." It was sort of a 50-50 mix, with lots of weird stuff thrown in. *shrug* It was better than bubblegum pop, though, I'll admit, and no commercials, either.
Yeah, WXYC was (and still is) the same way, of course, some of the "student" DJs were in their 30s the last time I checked... go figure. <g>
rich.
Jane: You know, I don't know why people say we have a bad attitude.
Daria: Screw 'em.
On Mon, 08 Feb 1999 08:00:14 GMT, [email] (paperpusher) wrote:
Dont forget the Anti-Elvis....You know who I mean. That sounds like the set list for the radio station in heaven. It's very rare to hear a Dead Kennedys song on the radio unless you live in a college town. Any DKs CD has a few songs any Daria fan would love, "Jock-O-Rama" and "Chickens**t Conformist" are songs that immediatly come to mind. I also enjoy Jello Biafra's spoken word albums quite a bit. "Beyond The Valley Of The Gift Police" has one of the best CD booklets ever.
that sounds great to me! saerah
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I remember once seeing LofC classification in use, in the University of Cardiff library.
Everywhere else in the UK I've been a regular borrower has used Dewey, apart from one college I attended that had a homebrewed system: the majority of its stock was theological, and I suppose either that some past librarian felt that no off-the-shelf system could classify the specialised stock with sufficient fineness, or that the classification was set up before Dewey or LofC were available, and no librarian wanted the task of reclassifying (who would?).
Martin.
I don't know why I'm bothering to comment on this, or how this thread got started in a Daria group (don't tell me -- I don't want a history lesson), but I might as throw in my two cents (or as this seems to be a UK oriented discussion, my 2 pence, for the sake of international understanding).
Dewey and LC classification schemes were developed for different size libraries. It isn't so much a matter of whether one is better than the other, but which may be more appropriate to the collection. Dewey works well with general collections numbering under 100,000 volumes; LC is better for larger general collections. There isn't much sense in having very specific breakdowns for collections that might only have a few books in any of the subject areas. For specialized collections like medicine or law, there are other classification schemes even more appropriate.
Because Dewey is heavily oriented to the United States, reserving large areas for American history, and little to everyone else's, a Universal Decimal Classification (UDC) scheme was developed to make it more flexible for libraries in other countries.
Actually, Dewey does not ignore fiction at all. There are class numbers under all the language/literature groups for fiction, but most libraries ignore them, preferring not to keep British novels separate from American novels, or novel from other countries. It's the library's choice, not Dewey's.
If I remember correctly, the British National Bibliography, produced by the British Library, is arranged in Dewey Decimal order. Most national libraries in other countries also produce national bibliographies, and for the most part use Dewey or UDC.
But who really cares?
What I find interesting about Dewey is he started the first library school in the US, tried to make the metric system the standard measure for America (which is why catalog cards are not quite 3x5 inches), and tried to rationalize spelling to make it appear as it sound -- to this end he even changed his name from Meville to Melvil, and why it's catalog and not catalogue.
Journeyer wrote in message ...
areas
Is that a special flavour of Dewey? Or a different scheme? I had an idea that I'd heard the system here referred to as Dewey and as UDC, but on looking up "UDC" in NODE didn't find "Universal Decimal Classification." I guessed I was remembering incorrectly and said only "Dewey" in my earlier post. <blush>
So, to correct my reply to the original question, I have seen _a decimal classification system with three digits before the point_ in every library in the UK I've used, except the two I mentioned, and I've heard librarians refer to their system as "Dewey" and "UDC".
Some of us honoured and took heed of his brilliant catalogue of contributions to library science, but were less influenced by his colourful programme for changing spelling... ;-)
Martin.
[email] (Journeyer) wrote:
That's beside the point on this newsgroup. Off-topic posts are the norm, not the exception. <g>
You mean those dreadful little cards are still floating around???? Here I was, hoping that maybe they'd finally passed the way of the 8-track tape, but still they taunt me! I think I have found a new purpose in life... the destruction of all of those evil little cards! Muahahahaha!
</crazy>
rich.
Jake: The horror, the *horror* ...
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Hey now! Those little cards serve a very important function! Everyone's excited about computer databases and online card catalogs, but... they forget the looming spectre of Y... 2... K!! When civilization collapses, and we're burning books to keep warm because the gas company computer thinks that it has another 90 or so years before it can cash your check, and you can't buy propane because payroll is lost in the roaring twenties, those little cards will tell us where to find the fattest books, that will burn the longest. So, the next time you complain about those little cards, think of how they're going to give you the advantage over that other Y2K-created grunting savage.
This has been a public service announcement
Cappadocius"Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wagn'nagl fhtagn."
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What does this mean exactly? I'm pretty sure it's something in 'klingon,' but I don't know enough to translate.
Mike Quinn I can be reached through e-mail at: [email]
Mike Quinn wrote:
Heh... CTHULHU FHTAGN....
BTW... it means, "In his house at R'yleh dead Cthulhu waits dreaming." And it's not in Klingon. Look up H.P. Lovecraft or anything related to Cthulhu online and you'll uncover many obsessive followers. While I'm a big fan, I'm not quite at the obsessive stage yet. Not QUITE....
--J.
Metallica wrote a 9 minute instrumental about the story called "the call of the Cthulhu" on their old, old album "ride the lightning." i havent read the story, but the song is excellent.
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Wait...isn't it "KUTULU"?
I have this album and think that song rocks.
Hmmm....
deena lissa (just dropping in for a few)
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wait, yah, you're right, sorry, it is Kutulu on the ablum.. or i think maybe it's spelled "ktulu.." oh, well, i just didnt want to run all the way upstaris to get it.
On Wed, 10 Feb 1999 16:57:28 +0000, "Jessica L." wrote:
Why choose the LESSER of two evils?
Cthulhu for president in 2000!
--- Gun control, the theory that Black people will be better off when only Mark Fuhrman has a gun.
Check out:
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Actually, it's from H.P. Lovecraft... Translated into a language that doesn't require a mouthful of tentacles to pronounce correctly, it means: "In his house in R'lyeh, dead Cthulhu waits dreaming" It's presence generally signifies membership in the corrupt and depraved Cthulhu cult, although I'm more of a Nyarlathotepan... It's just that the Dark Pharaoh doesn't get snazzy catchphrases like that... Oh well.
Ia! Ia! Shub-Niggurath!
Cappadocius".sig already mentioned in message!"
but I don't know enough to translate. << Mike Quinn
It's in R'lyehian (an imaginary language mentioned by H. P. Lovecraft and others) and it means:
"In his house at R'lyeh, dead Cthulhu waits, dreaming."
Cappadocius wrote:
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Why not just burn the cards instead? It'd save me the trouble of having to find the books in the dark. <g> (Besides, as a lit geek, I can never burn books, as it's against my core beliefs-- except maybe for John Grisham books-- they aren't literature.) >:-)
Besides, it's not really gas or power you need to worry about-- it'll be the small-town water and sewer services that're going to be the weak links in the y2k failure chain. I'd rather be clean and in the dark than have plenty of power and have to smell my funky neighbors, or, worse yet, to be forced to dig an outhouse in the backyard. :P (In which case the little cards would still serve a fitting purpose both practically and metaphorically.) <g>
Gesundheit. ;-)
rich.
Jane: You know, I don't know why people say we have a bad attitude.
Daria: Screw 'em.
I like the Dewey Decimal System because I can understand it and other people can't so there hahaha. And that gives me LOTS of self esteem, and knowing I have self-esteem gives me even MORE self-esteem....
You know I wrote a reaction journal for College Writing on "Esteemers"? I figured Frau would like that because she hates the whole self-esteem thing.
Dagny misery chick, cynic, general loony
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Eccles9697 wrote:
But having *you* all know that I had low self-esteem..... ;-{)>
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ui like the library of congress sysytem better
Hey everyone!!!! I know I asked this before, but I didn't get a lot of responses, so I'll ask again: Where did all of you get your Daria Diaries?? ok, and my second question is: Did any of you find Daria Diaries in Borders? If so, what section did you look in?? THANKS A BUNCH EVERYONE!!!!
I found mine at WaldenBooks, in the Humor Setion, and Daria's DataBase at Barnes and Nobel, also under humor
MiniCat155 wrote in message ...
ok,
so,
Well, here in the UK, finding The Daria Diaries in a bookshop is like finding erm, er, something very hard to find in a place that doesn't have it.
I checked out Amazon, but at $9.60 for TDD plus $12.95 shipping, I thought, hmmm, no.
I've been checking the online bookstores here in the UK, and when at last I found one selling TDD, I (i) ordered it; and (ii) posted a link so others in the UK and Europe can order it too. We help each other like that, here on atd!
I didn't say it before: welcome. As long as you don't try to impress anyone (and don't turn punctuation marks into an endangered species <g>) you'll soon feel at home here.
Best of luck finding TDD.
Martin. (In between appointments)
Ok, I've been reading this group for about 3 months now, time to de-lurk :-)
In article , "Martin Sylvester" wrote:
Heheheh also from the UK so I guess I should have the same problem :-)
Well amazon do now have a uk branch www.amazon.co.uk which is where I got my copies of both "Diaries" & "Database" humm corrent list prices as of 14/02/99... 6.53ukp for "Diaries" and 7.62ukp for "Database". Shipping within the UK is 1.95ukp per order + 0.50ukp per boot, so if ordering the two would come to a total of....2.95ukp. They also seem to now have a German store as well, though not living in Germany I've never visited it :-)
Going back into lurk mode now......
Phill.