Not that anyone's noticed my lack of posting, of course, but just in case anyone has, and has wondered why: I've not abandoned atd! I've been very, very busy in my first week here in my new post, so two minutes ago I just had to hit "Mark all as read" and leave ca. 300 messages unseen. And among those I did see, there were some thought-provoking messages that with a little leisure I'd have been eager to reply to. <sigh>
Still surrounded by boxes waiting to be unpacked, Martin.
In article , "Martin Sylvester" wrote:
Actually, I did, Father. Went so far as to check your posting history a week ago and saw that not much traffic had registered recently.
Did you move to a new parish or something? Oh...do you have a parish school there, or are such things not usually found in the UK?
Sincerely, Rev. Paul L. Vasquez
father_v wrote in message news:7sm0v5$42c$[email]...
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Well, that's kind of you, Father. Nice to know.
Yes. On my own here, and two weddings, a baptism and a funeral already. I arrived Friday 17th. 8-)
Primary school next door to the house, and a secondary school (of which I'm also a governor) in the next door parish.
Lovely people, and I'm in the delightfully scenic county of Derbyshire.
Tired, still surrounded by boxes, but grinning from ear to ear at landing such a great parish, Martin.
Mon frere Martin,
Woah, *DUDE*. Hope you take a day off. That could become overwhelming in a short period of time.
Unbelievable. You are lord of all you survey, eh? Just wait until your first administrative nightmare. Hope it never happens, but you know Murphy's law.
Woah. This sounds like a line out of Jane Austin. I believe Mr. Darcy's estate was in Derbyshire, as well as Mrs. Gardiner's girlhood home. Is there room for a visiting priest? I've always wanted to visit England, and it would be a great excuse to watch Daria...uh...I mean Shakespeare. :-) [The restored Globe theatre is just plain fascinating to me].
I can imagine. Your bishop must trust you quite a bit. What a parish! How many families, by the by?
Sincerely, Rev. Paul L. Vasquez
father_v wrote in message news:7st8ra$55l$[email]...
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Thanks for the advice, bro! Noted.
Murphy's
Well, servant of all I survey, more like. And that, of course, is how it should be. One of my tasks will be developing lay responsibility, and there's considerable scope for development. ;:-)
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Teehee. Yep, Derbyshire has a very high concentration of England's stately homes. I opened MS Autoroute Express 2000 and asked it to list all attractions within fifty miles of the presbytery. Among other things, it came up with: 21 family attractions, 117 historic sites, 10 landmarks (these all to seem to be historic battlefields), 28 museums and galleries, 18 nature sites, 10 outdoor activity centres, and 10 ski slopes[1]. So when at last I do get a day off, I reckon I'll end up with option paralysis as to what to do with it! 8-)
Once I've got the house sorted, no problem about a visiting priest. Just pack your celebret and breviary, and get over here! In fact <muses a moment> how about arranging an exchange some time?
Of course, I'll be as hospitable as good sense and the parish council (once one's set up) will allow to any fellow Darianites I know from atd.
Oh, did I forget to mention the Catholic Social Club next door? I think we may now have a venue for the International DariaCon. <g>
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How many families, by the by?
Quite a few. (An up-to-date census is one of the tasks I'll need to undertake.)
Martin.
[1] if you're tempted to wonder if I'm exaggerating, and I would be <g>, there's a screenshot at URL: http://www.sylvesternet.freeserve.co.uk/localstuff.jpg
Martin wrote:
Hmm. Any place for a drum/percussion/baritone horn/euphonuim player and/or cantor/choir singer/choir director (but not organist) and sometimes liturgist? Well, perhaps not. I still have stuff to do here.
Really, it sounds like you have *quite* a bit of work to do. I hope you have an energetic and cooperative laity.
Anyway, are you now freed from the tyranny of C5?
Peace Kevin (who seems to recall something about one of the St. Thomas More Group hailing from Derbyshire...)
KTrick45 wrote in message news:[email]...
liturgist?
Ah, shame, you'd be welcome. I was pleased with the sound of the choir and organ here, but the organ packed up during choir practice the night before my induction Mass! Anyone got a spare organ? (Cue ribald remarks from Upchuck!)
have an
The initial signs are promising, I'm pleased to say.
Nope. No MTV, no cable (I believe there isn't even a cable provider in town), no satellite: so C5 or nothing. At least there's a C5 signal, albeit fuzzy: I'll trust that'll improve when the aerial gets fixed.
Group
Um, if you're referring to a group, local to you, under the patronage of St Thomas More, then send the ex-Derbyshire member my greetings! If you're referring to people martyred at about the same time as St TM, then, yes: on 1st December we celebrate St Ralph Sherwin and the other Martyrs of Derbyshire; there are also the martyrs who were apprehended at Padley Chapel, Derbyshire, and executed, IIRC, in Derby. May they all pray for me, and the people I now serve!
Martin.
Martin Sylvester wrote:
*guffaw*
As for any extra help you may need...*ahem* you know, I was trained as a Eucharistic Minister and am registered with my archdiocese as having had such training...*ahem*...don't rush your decision.... ;)
Diane (I'm also good for being in choir! -- used to belong to a choir when I was younger!)
Hallucinating Elvis Lady wrote in message news:[email]...
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All right, you're on the list! More, and younger, Eucharistic ministers is another task to be done. No disrepect to the present ones, of course, who do a fine job, but they could use the help.
But you'd have to do our own Diocesan course before our Bishop would commission you. So don't leap onto a plane at once: the next course isn't 'til next autumn.
I was
Oh, well, you can be in choir until your eucharistic commissioning, then. 8-)
Martin.
Martin Sylvester wrote:
Whoo hoo! :)
I understand -- next autumn? You mean next year's autumn, aka the autumn season for the year 2000? Interesting.
Hee hee hee... (warming up vocal chords) I promise not to try to change the hymns to New Romantic/New Wave-type stuff either. Honest. I swear on a stack of A Flock of Seagulls records. :)
Diane
Two things, 1) since they only had two albums, I presume that you mean multiple copies of the same album. The only other alternative is that you are very cleverly deceiving Fr. Martin. :-)
2) Might want to pick another early MTV legend, like the Buggles, since the Flock of Seagulls was best known for running away, and you are trying to run there, and not away! ;-)
Not quite sincerely, Rev. Paul L. Vasquez
father_v wrote:
Bzzt! Incorrect. Not counting greatest hits albums, their debut mini-LP (_Telecommunication_) or their many failed reunion attempts (e.g.: _Magic_), they produced exactly four albums in their lifetime: _A Flock Of Seagulls_, _Listen_, _The Story Of A Young Heart_ and _Dream Come True_.
MIKE (a.k.a. "Progbear")
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"It is not an obscenity to be free. It is a divine right." --Annette Peacock
N.P.:"Holy West"- A m o n D � � l I I / V o r t e x
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I stand corrected. Thanks. Glad I wasn't quite sincere. :-)
"Telecommunication" is annoyingly repetitive, if I remember correctly. The first album was enjoyable. How were the rest of them?
Sincerely this time, Rev. Paul L. Vasquez
father_v wrote:
That's ok, Father. Actually, Mike forgot the multitude of 7"s and 12"s that AFOS released, including the many variants of "Wishing" that are out there.
I have "Listen" and find myself turning to it again and again. My two favorites from there (and in fact my two favorite AFOS songs) are "Electrics" and "(It's Not Me) Talking". "Wishing" and "Nightmares" (from the same album) and "She's Got It" (from their last album...Mike, remember the title?) round out my top five favorites list. Also...did you know they did a Bud commercial jingle? Yeah, I was totally surprised too. Remind me to e-mail you and Mike the URL. It's really catchy and quite good, in fact. You know, if you're like me and into early '80s music that's heavy on the synthesizers.
Oh don't worry Father, I'm just happy you and Mike knew about the group!
Diane (listening to a Japan song that is also enjoyable but repetitive, "Lovers on Main Street")
father_v wrote:
Let's see..._Listen_ is likewise enjoyable, _The Story of a Young Heart_ pretty darned lame, and _Dream Come True_ had one good song, "Heartbeat Like A Drum" plus lots of filler.
MIKE (a.k.a. "Progbear")
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"'Thin Thighs For Your Man.' But I don't *like* men with thin thighs" --Daria
N.W.:"Mahler"
Martin wrote:
I was referring to a group of UK composers, London-based now, I think. Paul Inwood (who's in Portsmouth), Bernadette Farrell (now in Westminster), Ernie Sands, Chris Walker (who's hanging out with us colonials now, but hails from Clifton), Peter Jones, Bill Tamblyn, Anne Quigley, James Walsh, and Stephen Dean. I think I recall one of them being from Derbyshire. Or at least working there at one time.
Can't think of a TDR to go with this one....
Peace Kevin
KTrick45 wrote in message news:[email]...
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Ah, how the years roll away. It reads like the list of items from Saturday morning chant practice in the seminary. Some of the names are more familiar than others.
Unfortunately, Saturday morning chant practice didn't have a remedial class. Unfortunately for me, but also for the people near me when I was trying to sing... 8-)
Martin.
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Darn. I really liked that St Ralph Sherwin stuff.
It must be so cool to be from a place that has local martyrs on the Calendar. Awesome in both the ancient and modern senses.
Sincerely, Rev. Paul L. Vasquez
father_v wrote in message news:7t5usj$9qf$[email]...
I'd never really given it much thought until now. I suppose we take for granted whatever we grow up with. The fact that local people died for their Christian faith, and that when we meet for Mass we're doing something that a few generations ago might have cost us our lives, is just part of the way things are. It's inspiring when you choose to reflect on it, but I think I'd never really adverted to the fact that there are places where people don't have this as part of the background. I never really appreciated, until I read your post, what a privilege it is.
Thanks for making me reflect on soemthing that I usually just take for granted!
Martin.
I wrote in message news:7stokq$dih$[email]...
A prize (a pint of Marston's Pedigree, to be collected at the International DariaCon) to the first person to spot two _Daria_ references in that screenshot! <g>
Martin.
On the mountaintop, "Martin Sylvester" spake thusly:
Trent River and Stoke-on-Trent? You guys have THE weirdest town names.... (Like Kenosha is really much better, but still..)
-Mindy What do I get for my prize, since I'm underage?
"Daria, you're giving me a headache!!" -Quinn Morgendorffer, "Daria"
Dcode: Ap D+ T7 Wl Q++ Fn^Fr O- Or+Os+Od m-- c MV-- C5X F:101,308 BBd FCJ -DT-- q fJ^fM^fO(Artie :-P) Find the Daria Geek Code at http://www.geocities.com/TelevisonCity/Taping/3017/
Mindy wrote:
Waitamin, Fr Martin, you now oversee an area which includes Stoke-on-Trent? That's not too far away from where Barry lives! He lives not even an hour away in Stockport. Oh yeah, and Stoke-on-Trent is supposed to be the hometown of one Mr Robbie Williams, is it not? *g* (I'm a fan...sorry if that disgusts anyone.)
Coolness!
Diane
Hallucinating Elvis Lady wrote in message news:[email]...
names....
Stoke-on-Trent? That's not
Stockport. Oh
Williams, is
Well, Stoke's another parish, over the border in the next-door Diocese, but not far away.
Can't dispute that. 8-)
Martin.
there's burton-on-trent as well... i figured the "trent" things must all be one "reference", but i couldn't see anything else.
endless, nameless wrote in message news:[email]...
Copngratulations on getting all three! No prize this time, though 'cos Mindy got the necessary two before you.
Ah, go on then. <rummages in drawer> An English Heritage car sticker, as a special prize for being the first to get all three. To be collected, etc...
Martin.
oh thank you. :)
Mindy wrote in message news:[email]...
Well done, you win! There's also Burton-on-Trent, but only two of the three were necessary to win.
Ah, sorry, there's no alternative. Since I'll be buying the beer, you can have a meal, and enjoy the beer with it, providing it's in a restaurant or family room, not in the bar. [1] 8-)
Martin.
[1] http://www.popall.co.uk/guide/03under.htm
On the mountaintop, "Martin Sylvester" spake thusly:
*grins* I should move to the UK [1]. I think I'd like it there. I'll share my booze with you, Alli, since I'll probably be flat-out drunk after, oh, say, inhaling the fumes. No tolerance here - I've never imbibed alcohol of any kind, save the usual "Grandpa said it was just Pepsi in a Budweiser can!" traumatic beer experiences. 'Course, caffeine is another story...
-Mindy
[1] Or whatever y'all call yerselves. ;-P
"Daria, you're giving me a headache!!" -Quinn Morgendorffer, "Daria"
Dcode: Ap D+ T7 Wl Q++ Fn^Fr O- Or+Os+Od m-- c MV-- C5X F:101,308 BBd FCJ -DT-- q fJ^fM^fO(Artie :-P) Find the Daria Geek Code at http://www.geocities.com/TelevisonCity/Taping/3017/
yes you should.
yes you would. (compared to the US, at least, probably.)
in which case you should definitely move to the UK. ;)
i don't think i've ever had a traumatic beer experience. apart from the taste.
that's fully legal to all, thankfully. :)
the only time beer is traumatic is in some cases someone else is drinking it and starts yelling about respect for no reason and crap like that...
Dagny
http://members.aol.com/Eccles9697
"And the people bowed and prayed to the neon god they made... and the sign said the words of the prophets are written on the subway walls and tenement halls and whispered in the sounds of silence" Paul Simon
The only time beer is traumatic is when someone else is drinking it.
-Shez.
Exactly. Especially when Bill was drinking it. There was nothing particularly traumatic about the people at Beatlefest who got drunk and sang Beatles songs. And REMEMBERED Beatles songs after many, many beers. I think that's the mark of a Beatles fan.
Dagny
http://members.aol.com/Eccles9697
"And the people bowed and prayed to the neon god they made... and the sign said the words of the prophets are written on the subway walls and tenement halls and whispered in the sounds of silence" Paul Simon
That reminds me of Bob and Doug McKenzie's "12 Days of Christmas" when Rick Moranis sings "and a beer on my knee" and Dave Thomas says, "No that beer's empty."
What a great song. What a great album!
Sincerely, Rev. Paul L. Vasquez
father_v wrote in message news:7t5u13$9c8$[email]...
Beer can be tramatic when you're playing "beer hunter" and you lose.
Got to go watch "Strange Brew" again, now!
is it all that "Trent" stuff? river trent, stoke-on-trent, etc?
endless, nameless wrote in message news:[email]...
Yes! But Mindy beat you to it by only two minutes.
Martin.
On Wed, 29 Sep 1999 20:32:31 +0100, "Martin Sylvester" wrote:
I found two towns with "Trent" in their names. There also seems to be a Trent river between Carlton and Newark. Looks like you moved to the land of the shippers.
Happydude wrote in message news:[email]...
Correct, but not the first. Sorry, no prize this time!
<chuckle> Yes, we even name towns and a river after him!
Could make a nice twist in a shipper fanfic, if Daria's in England to forget about Trent, and keeps encountering his name on road signs...
Martin.
On Wed, 29 Sep 1999 19:18:35 +0100, "Martin Sylvester" wrote:
Yeah, but are there any good pubs?
Am I the only one who had a Legend of Zelda flashback when they saw that emoticon?
Happydude wrote in message news:[email]...
Oh, yes. <bg> Right here in town are two pubs that made it into next year's (national) Good Beer Guide, and the Catholic Club (my kitchen door opens into its yard) is reputed to have some of the best-kept Pedigree for miles.
<sigh>
Um, well I didn't when I typed it, if that's any help! 8-)
Martin.
Yo Fr. Martin,
Sorry it's taken so long to respond, and also for using that famous Americanism in greeting you ;-)
<snip>
Did you get one at your old parish? I knew an old German pastor who had as big an operation as you do (very hands-on in his high school, including hiring and firing!), directed an orchestra for mass (has a Ph.D. in music), and edited a magazine (amongst other things), but he was always off after Parish vespers at 3 pm. I figure if he made it on an afternoon it's theoretically possible... :-) *I* couldn't do it that way, but I'm no John Vianney, either.
Sure thing! We have a spare room, but the rural Midwest has few claims on a visitor to the States. When I want to do things, Omaha is the largest city around, and unless you're from there, it's not much. Just being honest. If you need an out of the way place with cable, various video options (VCR, etc), as well as a complete collection of Daria episodes, it's all yours.
Once one's set up? Woah, did 1983 pass them by? I guess you weren't kidding when you said there was room for development. Most of our Councils over here end up being less spiritual sounding boards, and more directive boards with politics and all. What's it like over there?
Most excellent!
Wasn't kidding, either. You're what, 10, 12 years ordained?
This is the coolest smiley I've ever seen.
Our Archbishop recently ordered a census of the entire Archdiocese after he told the Pope he'd do it. The priests were informed after the Pope. :-) You should have heard the moaning! Classic.
Your Bro' in Christ, Rev. Paul L. Vasquez
father_v wrote in message news:7t5t1n$8o2$[email]...
No worries on either account!
Yes, I generally managed to get away about noon on a Wednesday. That was a busy parish too, but lay responsibility was more developed there. I do intend to get a regular day off, 'cos if a priest doesn't, the parishioners suffer as he turns into Fr Ratbag The Irascible!
Your frankness is greatly appreciated. 8-)
You're very kind! Maybe when exhaustion kicks in, a couch potato holiday might appeal!
I think there's quite a lot of variety, but I've always found them to have the best interests of the parish at heart, and to be comprised of generous-spirited people who appreciate it when their pastor is clearly concerned to give them an opportunity to put their talents, experience of the parish, and wisdom at the service of the Gospel. "Consultative" rather than "directive."
Thank you! Ten.
Sometimes I worry people won't get it, and write <blush> instead. Here on atd, I'm fairly confident a high proportion of readers will get it. 8-)
Perhaps it wasn't the finest example of diocesan collegiality and collaborative ministry. ;:-) Of course, a lot of people who are now bishops were laypeople and seminarians when the model of leadership in the Church was frankly directive: they do well to overcome their early socialisation as well as they do.
Martin.
"Martin Sylvester" wrote: <very large snip>
think we
So, just how glad are you that we all won't be crashing at your pad when the IDC happens? :)
wrote in message news:7tcre0$qn0$[email]...
I'm sorry, sir, I can't answer that question. <g>
Martin.
"Martin Sylvester" wrote:
pad
That's all right. I've already accepted a boatload of bad karma for teasing a priest. :)
are you sure you aren't getting your religions confused? :)
Dagny
http://members.aol.com/Eccles9697
"And the people bowed and prayed to the neon god they made... and the sign said the words of the prophets are written on the subway walls and tenement halls and whispered in the sounds of silence" Paul Simon
On 07 Oct 1999 00:47:21 GMT, [email] (Dagny Scott) wrote:
Actually, I've incorporated the basic concept of "kharma" into my Christian beliefs.
Howling Lunatic wrote:
What about if you're a Christian and incorporate this:
"Karma karma karma karma chameleon/You come and go, you come and go"?
Hee hee hee...sorry, was looking for any excuse to use that song in this subthread....
Diane
Eeeeeeeeeeeeeewwwwwwwwaaaah!
DJ
instant karma's gonna get you...
Dagny
http://members.aol.com/Eccles9697
"And the people bowed and prayed to the neon god they made... and the sign said the words of the prophets are written on the subway walls and tenement halls and whispered in the sounds of silence" Paul Simon
lol.. i was waiting for *someone* to say this.. almost did it myself, hehe. it *had* to be done. :)
lol... *so* subtley done, Diane. ;)
On 7 Oct 1999 21:16:42 GMT, [email] (Howling Lunatic) wrote:
Right on. I'm always happy to see people using the open source approach to religion. If you don't like it, just change the source code and recompile :-) MSB
In article , [email] (Matthias Benkmann) wrote:
Unless God has more of a Microsoft attitude to the whole thing. Then all the open-source religion users get litigation for eternity.
IK
On Fri, 08 Oct 1999 20:08:32 GMT, [email] (Matthias Benkmann) wrote:
"Linus Torvalds is my shephard... I shall not want..."
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Outpost Daria: Your Online Database for All Things Daria!
http://www.lawndale.net -OR- http://systech.simplenet.com/daria/I always liked "All things bright and beautiful... the Lord Bomb made them all." from one of the Planet of the Apes movies :)
Dagny
http://members.aol.com/Eccles9697
"And the people bowed and prayed to the neon god they made... and the sign said the words of the prophets are written on the subway walls and tenement halls and whispered in the sounds of silence" Paul Simon
[...] Au contraire, mon frere! I do it all the time. :-)
Sincerely, Rev. Paul L. Vasquez P.S. (although Dagny Scott's comment is applicable as well.)
it looks neater when they aren't all nicely lined up.
like so:
FRESH FISH! FRESH FISH! FRESH FISH! FRESH FISH!
FRESH FISH! FRESH FISH! FRESH FISH! FRESH FISH!
FRESH FISH! FRESH FISH! FRESH FISH! FRESH FISH!
FRESH FISH! FRESH FISH! FRESH FISH! FRESH FISH!just some constructive critisism that shows I have way too much time on my hand.