Mike's Delayed Reaction Review-#313 (3-39), "Jane's Addition"

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Mike's Delayed Reaction Review-#313 (3-39), "Jane's Addition"

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Mike's Delayed Reaction Review-"Jane's Addiction"

MDRR #313 (3-39)

Major Tom - Tom was the likeable sort from Jane's perspective. He was witty and charming. Also honest and not the least bit afraid of telling it like it is (or at least how he sees it). In essence, she liked the way he looked and was wowed by his personality. From Daria's perspective, he was a predator intent on devouring Daria and Jane's friendship. This was evident in her reaction to the two of them leaving the club early. All she said was "Great," but she said it in such a way that conveyed disgust and dismay. It was almost an "Uh Oh" type of reaction and it told Daria that she should be at war with this intruder. Daria really tried hard not to like Tom because Jane is smitten with him so quickly. The way she reacted to his unannounced appearance at the pizzeria expanded this. The scowl and subsequent verbal putdowns were enough to shake the knees of even the most confident. Despite all of the hostilities directed his way; Tom remained diplomatic and made a sincere effort to be nice to Daria. He finally forced her into a conversation and made her realize that he wasn't all that bad. He told her how Jane is always talking her up and how that their friendship is too strong to be pulled apart by any one person. She finally conceded that her actions would do more damage than Tome ever could.

Ohhhhh, Jealousy - Daria was more nasty than she has ever been. And not just to Tom. She was being way too overprotective of Jane because she is so afraid to lose her as a friend. The irrationality of her responses was seen in her anger in the pizza shop. She got mad for no real reason. The only thing that Jane could have done to deserve anything like that was her blowing off of Daria in the club. That may have been inconsiderate but it shouldn't facilitate the type of anger Daria had. The fight gets really out of hand when Daria goes to check on Trent's music. They got so carried away that they started to transfer their anger on to Trent. They almost found another way to feel (or at least who to feel it towards). Forgetting what you're fighting about is a good way to stop the fight.

Oddly Placed Possible Reference of the Week - Daria and Jane's final presentation was oddly reminiscent of South Park. It was almost surely unintentional, since some computer animation works that way. It could also be a sly commentary about Daria�s animated cousins that don't move their legs when they walk. You be the judge!

Filler Scenes of the Week - That would be the presentations that we saw that weren't attributed to Daria and Jane. Kevin and Brittany are now full-fledged members of the school spirit cult and Upchuck seems to think he is some sort of deity. On the other hand, Daria and Jane's emotional cycle can be linked to the main plot (If I recall correctly, they are also the five psychological stages that terminally ill patients go through, but it's been a while since I took Psych 101). Daria went through at least some of those stages dealing with Tom and Jane in this episode. She didn't believe what was happening, she tried not to deal with it, she was forced to negotiate a truce, she was angry a lot and in the end she accepted the whole thing.

Multiple Media - Mr. O'Niell's multimedia assignment is such a bad idea for so many reasons. First, he's assuming that his students have some prior knowledge of the software or can learn it quickly. Also, he's expecting his students to be capable of coming up with some kind of production on their own. The project was contrived. However, Daria and Jane's handling of the project is more the point. Jane assumes that she and Daria would work together; that's probably what would have happened anyway but you should never assume. Daria does the words, Jane does the pictures; that's more than appropriate. Trent for the music? That should be well within his capabilities (even though he thought the project was about Mystic Spiral). However, he didn't come through. He is cool, but less than reliable. He doesn't work well in the time restraints that most of the world does.

Shipper Teases of the Week - Daria and Trent's final conversation was littered with phrases that could only be meant to appeal to the thirty some odd percent of us that are 'shippers. There was Trent's "we couldn't get together on this," followed by Daria's "this couldn't work out," and then the both of them were "understanding each other" which put the whole scene at 'shipper critical mass. When Trent apologized and gave Daria a kiss (which was the most contrived scene in Daria history), it felt like they were breaking up from a relationship that never took place. Maybe the intent was to get all of the 'shipper to see the light or make them think that they missed Trent' and Daria's hook up.

Crushed - The crush, as it has been, is over (Hallelujah!). In it's place, the domain of "let's be friends" land now resides. Daria has finally realized that Trent is way too "relaxed" for her tastes. He claims to take his career seriously but is chronically late for gigs. In effect, Daria and Trent find out that they are completely incompatible and that they would drive each other crazy. However, Trent is definitely developing some feelings for Daria and it will remain to be seen where those feelings end up. Too bad she is over him as a love interest. Does this stuff ever work out?

Missing in Action - Quinn, Jake and Helen aren't seen and have three words of dialogue between them. Now they know how Andrea, Mack, Jodie and countless others feel! The only minor characters that don't go away, are the most annoying (the fashion club, Kevin, Brittany, etc.).

This first element that I want to address is the excess of spooge in this episode (it's one reason that I don't read as much fanfic as most people). I can't take too much of the over the top soap opera type shenanigans and they were laid on pretty thick here. I can't remember exactly what the official word was, but the crush is seemingly gone and I couldn't be happier. Daria has figured out that the Trent she idolizes isn't the Trent that lives in Lawndale. Otherwise, Tom tested like Jane and Daria�s friendship never before. One can only hope that he sticks around as a recurring character because he is a rare positive portrayal of the human male.

The Bottom Line - More or less a strong finish. Heavy.

Grade: B+

Daria as a Whole #1, MTV Scheduling - Unfortunately, after this episode originally aired, some screw up at MTV decided not to rerun any Daria except for the ten spot airing for a couple of weeks. Oh well.

Daria as a Whole #2, She Sure Knows How to Pick 'Em - Jane has finally picked a guy that is half decent. In the past her choices were either jerks or pigs.

Daria as a Whole #3, Band Development - Mystic Spiral seems to be getting better but Trent seems to be getting more and more ticked off at his bandmates. Isn't that always what happens, just when a group is getting toward the cusp of greatness, they members start to resent one another.

Daria as a Whole #4, The Review That Wouldn't End - This seems like one of the longer reviews I've ever written, I don't really know why. There was even some stuff that may have been left out about this season as a unit (all will be revealed in the season three review). Other than that, all I want to say is that I've enjoyed this season immensely and appreciate all of the support this whole community has given. Thank you all. Oh, and I can't wait until season four starts (sets alarm clock to February).

Sometime in the Future- I�m not making any promises but I hope to write a season summary for season three. In the meantime, I�m going to try to calculate the time before the start of season four (there are some pretty wild variables involved, like MTV�s scheduling department) and there may be some DRR�s for Downtown.

Copyright � 1999 Mike Quinn [All Rights Reserved]. "Daria" and all related characters are � 1999 MTV Networks, Inc.

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Michael Quinn - Electrical & Computer Engineering Villanova University [email] http://homestead.deja.com/user.mikequinn/mdrr_archive.html

wrote:

Well, we prayed and sacrificed to the gods for a positive male character and it looks like we got him. Now let's hope they keep him.

Considering Jane's past experience with men, not a surprising reaction.

Well, I liked the fact that he stood his ground and helped her see reason. Daria's smart enough to see reality.

I really didn't notice that.I guess another viewing will have to show.

Very, very ambiguous.Is it hello.....or good-bye?

Again, we won't know until next season whether this is truly "over" or has been replaced by something else.

I think having them in the plot would have subtracted from the main focus of the Daria/Jane/Trent/Tom story.

   I feel that their relationship is definately maturing past the "Will they or
won't they" tension of three years. You can care for a friend and still realize
his /her weak points.
   Another point I need to add is that it seems to me that Trent is maturing in
some ways.His willingness to own up to his failure to produce the music for the
project and his disatisfaction with his band is a bit of subtle
developement.Will this continue is the question.

I'd give it an A.It's one of the best of the season.

Thank you for the reviews.I'll say it again-since Wraith quit, you've been one of the highlights of my Daria-watching experience.

I'm counting the days. :)

Jeff Morris

Jeg7777Mike Quinn

Yeah!

WHO???????? (see below...)

But before half your face is covered you give that cute little smile. :-)

Fighting best friend....bad. Postponing fight to gang up on someone else....good.

Could be, since MTV moved the show to the "South Park" timeslot, but I didn't really pick up on this.

This is a plot contrivance to involve Trent. My question is, what subject is O'Neill teaching? I am under the impression that he's an English teacher. Does a multimedia project (with sounds and pictures) really help that much with English?

The main feature which alerts the viewer that they are talking about more than just the project is the brief pause..."We couldn't get together (pause) on this."

I have stated that the idea of a Daria/Trent relationship is dead. Despite all I've read in this group, I still feel this way. They'll be friends and nothing more.

The writers have not done their best work when it comes to keeping all of the supporting characters in the mix. Having said that, a fair amount of my laughter in each episode is caused by the FC, "Kevvy" and his "babe."

Let's hope that never happens to.....ummm, what's the name of the NG band again? I suggested this before, but I'll slightly revise it. How about "Mike and the Fashion Club"? :-)

Thank you for your insightful reviews.

Joe (that's four 7's in the screen name--four, four, FOUR!) "Meet the cannibal with a heart....quick! Before he eats it! Next on 'Sick Sad World!'" ---from Daria, "Just Add Water"
Homer J. SimpsonJeg7777

On Mon, 23 Aug 1999 20:01:06 -0400, Jeg7777 wrote:

I hate to say it, but I've done a multimedia project for junior English in high school. So yes, this scenaria *is* realistic :)

Damon Orca on #Stars!

http://dariasounds.home.dhs.org/

the new trend in teaching English is to actually involve as little writing and literature related as possible. This may include multimedia, video, surveys, drawing, more drawing, yet more drawing, crafts, movies... you get the point. I think they're gradually trying to get rid of English because it's "impractical"... and they can't find many coaches that would want to teach English...

Dagny

http://members.aol.com/Eccles9697

"I'm not different for the sake of being different, only for the desperate sake of being myself. I can't join your gang: you'd think I was a phoney and I'd know it." Vivian Stanshall

Dagny Scott wrote in message news:[email]...

writing and

surveys,

point. I

teach

Coaches don't mind teaching if they can find enough ways to throw in some obscure football metaphors into the lesson that no one but members of the football team can understand.

Someday, every school will have football as the only class and all other courses will be eliminated.

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R. K. Henry wrote:

My high school didn't even have a football team...or coaches who taught other subjects...or a driver's ed class...or a "multimedia" English class...or very many coaches period who interacted with other students aside from the jocks...or any other thing you've been recently describing. Curses! Although I was a Eucharistic Minister... ? LOL. One of the many wonderfully unique things about my all-female Catholic high school experience. That and no guys. No wait, most males don't grow out of their "boyhood" stage until they're 23 at least...no "little boys". Whoo hoo!

Diane

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In article , Mike Quinn wrote:

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True. Tom had to mend the fence with Daria, if he didn't, there was no way any of this could have worked out for any of the 3 characters.

She was being overprotective, yes, but at least in her mind she did it because she cares for Jane, and if you consider the fact that Daria's love life has been a turtle to develop, this was a lightning bolt, she saw it moving too fast, plus the fact that she didn't like Tom, contributed to that fact doubly(?).

I thought so as well, "It really makes you think..."

Which you colud see coming, but would you like it if it turned out differently?

He really should buy that watch.

I said this elsewhere, you're right, the crush is definately dead, Trent as her love interest is not dead either, it may be in ICU, on life support, but not dead. The attitude is definately "lets be friends" for now. If, and this is the only chance they have, if Trent can somehow show Daria he is willing to change and take a more responsible outlook on life, I believe she could warm up to the idea again of a full blown relationship, if Trent doesn't change, then pull the plug on the life support machine because it will then be dead.

Tom will definately stick around, the show needs a competant male semi-regular character. The final pizza parlor scene was left ambiguous for a reason, so people like us have something to talk about and discuss while we have to wait the 177 days for the next new episode. :-)

The drama created by all the conflict was good enough for be, I'd say it deserves an A.

Hopefully it will resume Sept 13 or 14 like Paperpusher says.

Agreed.

Possible plot development for season 4?

Thank you for doing these reviews, I enjoy each one. Honestly, I see it as though the 3rd season didn't offically end until I read this final sea. 3 review, keep up the good work, and if you guys hit it big with the band, can I be one of those annoying people who can say they knew you before you hit it big? (Even though all I really know about you is from your posts here and your website)

Looking forward to next season and more great reviews, A.J.

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Mike Quinn said:

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Mine too. The ONLY reason Daria didn't like him was the jealousy factor.

I think at the beginning she was mostly afraid Jane was going to get hurt. Only later did jealousy predominate.

Yes. And she had to try real hard, cause Tom was also obviously really nice.

He showed maturity, intelligence, and self-control.

Yep. Her expression at points was that of a petulant small child.

I think that her initial fear for Jane got transferred into hostilty towards Tom and even Jane when it became obvious that Tom was NOT a creep.

Maybe. It could just be that even Jane isn't all that skilled at computer animation, and was working with limited facilities. But I liked it a lot, anyway :)

Was there ever any doubt?

Heh ... I wish they'd shown his presentation.

I'd give it an A. Maybe even an A+. It was one of the most powerful episodes they've shown, mostly because of the SERIOUS conflict that develops between Daria and Jane. And there were major developments in both Daria and Jane's love lives.

Sincerely Yours, Jordan

"Man is a god in ruins" (Ralph Waldo Emerson)