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Nov 4, 200017 posts by 10 posters
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Shez

I like the new alter-egos, Daria as cheerleader for instance, though they're all good. Trent as Daria is odd.

The first episode was kind of convoluted but it was good to get back to more angsty animation than the Powerpuff Girls.

Good to see that C5 haven't changed their ads policy - still no commercials at all during Daria, unlike ITV which have started putting ad breaks in every 11 minutes during afternoon TV -- this is apparently due to the ITC* which recently sold us viewers down the river for No Good Reason. (I note that in Pok�mon, the "who's that Pok�mon" bit in the middle has been axed to make time for the long ad break.) I think I sense the long awaited Death of quality television arriving at last.....

[*Independent Television Commission -- regulates TV commercials in the UK]

-Shez.

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I,JMShez

In article , Shez writes

This started a couple of years ago when the BBC decided to ruin almost every broadcast by demanding that the announcers kill the atmosphere by talking over the ending credits - frequently choosing the one with the most irritating voice available.

I,JM Why can't all girls be like Daria?

Pierces888I,JM
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Is "quality television" like Elvis? In that some people claim to have seen it while others think it died long ago?

What makes Daria Daria is that she's not like all other girls.

Pierce

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Phill Harvey-SmithPierces888

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Hey perhaps it was abducted by aliens......:)

Are we talking in a character or biological sense here :)

<Butthead> uhuhuhuh that chick's flat uhuhhuhuhu </Butthead>

You or Daria  ??? :) :) :)

Phill....waiting patiently for 408-413 especially 412&413 tho :)

miss bossy-pantsPierces888

this made me LOL. :)

hmmm. no, i think it's more that she doesn't try to be like other girls. would you be complaining if all girls were like daria?

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Pierces888miss bossy-pants

Hell, yes, I'd complain. Then I'd NEVER get a date.

Pierce

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Pierces888miss bossy-pants

Daria's most admirable trait is that she chooses to not conform. She doesn't take the path of least resistance.

Pierce

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that doesn't mean she's not like other girls, though, does it? it just means she doesn't go out of her way to be like them.

alli; http://www.btinternet.com/~yannaco Member #5 of Kurt Cobain's Undead Army.

That's the question, then: Does it take a conscious effort to be like others, or to NOT be like others?

Is Daria an outsider because she sees how much work (and how much sacrifice) her sister puts into being popular and decided, "the hell with THAT"? Many would say that being different in high school is the harder path to follow, irregardless. But maybe the question can't be boiled down to something that simple. So let's keep it manageable by limiting our discussion to Daria and her circumstances.

I think Daria has an easier time resisting the lure of superficial high school life because she recognized it for what it is from the start and chose not to participate. That makes it easier for her to do it now than it might have been (easier than it will be for Quinn, too, which is why she will have lapses, which will help from a storytelling point-of-view). But it doesn't make it any less praiseworthy, in my opinion.

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Pierces888M Man

Given that she goes to Lawndale High, I question if this is actually a "fault". But it's hard to defend that opinion against the "Lens" episode example. Point to you, MMan.

Most teenagers, when making any decision, at least factor in this question: "What will other teenagers think?" Daria, in that same position, if she asks or was asked, would respond: "who cares what they think?"

But when she considered, for whatever reason, getting contact lenses, she demonstrated she was a teenager (read:only human) by wondering how others will react to it. This is prompted by the fact that to HER, this was a big deal. (Of course, it wasn't nearly as much of an issue to anyone else.)

If Daria had called me instead of Amy, I would have said, "Daria, all your life you've said 'who cares what they think?' I say, if you want the contacts, get the damn' contacts. If you want to get them to improve your driving, get them to improve your driving. If you want to get them to improve your looks, get them to improve your looks. Other people might think you've become vain. They might think you're opening up, dropping that stand-offish persona, revealing the you-ness inside, what-have-you. Other people might draw all sorts of conclusions, and those conclusions might be right or they might be wrong. And the question you should ask yourself in either case is: 'who cares what they think?'"

Pierce

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ProgbearI,JM

I,JM wrote:

They used to do that on American TV, but apparently decided it wasn't irritating enough. Now they squash the end credits off to the right hand edge of the screen, compressed to unreadability, while using the rest of the screen to advertise other shows you've no intention of ever watching. Cruel and unusual punishment, for sure.

MIKE (a.k.a. "Progbear")

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I,JMProgbear

In article , Marowak writes

LOL - not. Same thing is happening here now. Now I know where they got the idea. Bastards.

I,JM Why can't all girls be like Daria?

BearI,JM

In article , "I,JM" wrote:

Ever seen "The PJs"? They have the right idea with their end credits: plain white text on a black background, and no end theme. Why bother doing anything more if it's just going to get talked over? It's the only TV show I'm aware of that's doing that...

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Michel MortonI,JM

They usually seem to do this when they're pimping the 'book that accompanies the series'. Or in the case of science programs like Equinox or Horizon, it's the booklet that tells you more about the topic covered in the programme.

(Incidentally they don't, they're a waste of money)

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BearShez

In article , Shez wrote:

That made me laugh out loud, which is pretty rare for me.

Hm... There are no ad breaks in the middle of Digimon; perhaps it's a selective insertion of ads into programmes?

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Martin SylvesterShez

"Shez" wrote in message news:[email]...

First thing I did at the end of the ep was to rewind to see the new alter egos again.

I liked it. It's no spoiler to say I thought it was a well-written and intelligent ep.

Agreed. Kudos to C5.

Don't say that where C5 can overhear. <gulp> Perhaps they don't know the rules have changed. ;:-)

Martin.

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