Something Tom said

Feb 19, 2001, 5:30 PM ET7 posts by 4 posters
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MMan37x

SPOILER FOR DDMD AND MAYBE ILAP

ARE THESE STILL NECESSARY FOR THESE EPISODES, BY THE WAY?

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I'm trying to figure out something Tom said in DDMD.

In the scene where Daria phones him to see if Jane is OK after she missed school, Tom said that Jane called "saying things (he) didn't understand and making freaky accusations". Then he adds "it's like we talked about at the parade" - then Daria cuts hims off, says goodbye and ends the call.

At the parade? Obviously a reference to ILAP. But what exactly? What part of their conversation in that episode is Tom referring to?

M Man

(self-desribed Thomist and Sandi-basher :-) )

SGall23241MMan37x

It may have been just by Tom's mere mentioning of the parade that may have actually *scared* Daria, who at the time was probably thinking inadvertantly about him (an extension from what happened in "Fire!"), and it brought up her memories of them meeting each other at the parade, and her beginning to appreciate him as a friend then--and possibly something more. You're welcome.

Belle BookMMan37x

M Man wrote:

We don't know exactly what Tom meant by "It's like what we talked about at the parade", but I can make some guesses.

In "I Loathe a Parade" (the episode that had the parade that Tom's referring to), Daria and Tom witness a parade float going up in flames (literally), flames which are put out by a fire truck. Daria admires the spectacle, saying "When homecoming turns hellish!". Tom asks her if she isn't glad that she got to see this, whereupon Daria says that at least she understands why he'd want to share the experience with Jane. She then adds that it's too bad that he never hooked up with Jane. Tom says, "It's okay. By now she'd be so busy snapping pictures, she'd forget I was even here. You know how she is." Daria then says, "Yeah. I know how she is," whereupon Tom adds, "Thanks for getting lost in the moment with me."

My suspicion is that when Tom made that comment in "Dye! Dye! My Darling!", he was referring to his statement about Jane's probably having forgotten about him in her enthusiasm over taking pictures -- the first overt sign of his dissatisfaction with their relationship. Daria, of course, ends the call very hurriedly because the LAST thing she wants to admit is that she likes Tom as more than as a friend -- Jane's already picked a quarrel with her out of insecurity and jealousy, and even if Daria and Jane weren't best friends, Daria simply might not be comfortable admitting that she is attracted to a guy.

Belle Book (also a Thomist -- for the moment, at least :))

MMan37xBelle Book

Well, I definitely remember that moment, and its significance. But I got the impression in DDMD that Tom was connecting something in ILAP with Jane's "freaky accusations". How do those connect with Jane forgetting Tom is there?

Hmmm. Or do you just mean the more general comment "You know how she is"? That's a possibility. Even a probability. I think you've got it. Nothing else fits.

<Robert>

That was good thinking, ma'am.

</Robert>

Yes! It definitely was.

Even to herself, at that point.

Belle BookMMan37x

M Man wrote:

Perhaps especially to herself, at that point.

Belle Book

William BarkerMMan37x

On 19 Feb 2001 22:30:15 GMT, [email] (MMan37x) wrote:

I wonder if it's the part where he said that Jane would have been so busy taking pictures that she would have forgotten that he was even there. There might have been something else, but I don't remember right now. One of those 'senior moment' type things. Either that or my sinuses are squishing my brain and making me even dumber than normal! :)

Belle BookWilliam Barker

William Barker wrote:

You're not being even dumber than you think you normally are. There was nothing else significant regarding Jane in that episode, so you probably guessed correctly.

Belle Book