Daria and Anime

S03E01 Daria!retroAug 16, 2000, 1:47 AM ET18 months later31 posts by 13 posters
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kchishol

I was wondering, has there been any discussion here as what Daria's opinion of anime would be? Do you think she would she hate it, ignore it or actually like it?

I think if she liked it, she would, publicly, like it for the really acclaimed dark stories like Grave of the Fireflies (Two kids try to survive in post WW II Japan), Barefoot Gen (a boy survives the atomic bombing of Hiroshima) or Princess Mononoke. The complex political tales of Legend of Galactic Heroes would probably interest her as well.

Quietly, I bet she would enjoy PatLabor (a series about a police giant robot pilot and support team) for its intelligence, humour and well staged action with some intriguing female characters.

Of course, this would depend on Quinn's opinion of this stuff. If she hated it, then Daria would explore it if only to annoy her sister.

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I'd guess she'd have mixed feelings on it. Maybe like you went on to say...stuff like Grave of the Fireflies, Barefoot Gen, Princess Monoke. Probably The Wings of Honeamise, too. Patlabor? Hm...maybe. If she'd secretly dig that, maybe something like the second Tank Police OAV series (New Dominion Tank Police, wasn't it?) would be up her ally, too. Urotsukidojii? Heh, never. ;)

Now, Quinn's thing about anime...I'd have to say Quinn would probably hate anime. "Ewww!!! Cartoons where people die? That is SO wrong. Plus, have you ever seen the people that BUY those videotapes? Walking fasion emergencies..."

-nick reffuse

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I can't really see Daria having a mixed opinion on anything, but I'm not sure what her stance might be. Ever the pessimist, she might point out that the values expressed in anime put too much emphasis in action before thought, and the needs of others before ones own. (Central themes in most anime I've watched.)

Ironically, after seeing GBAA, I think Quinn would get a kick out of "Wings of Honeamise," but Daria would find it too touchy-feelly. I didn't care for it either. After watching the whole thing through, I said, "*This* was created by the folks who did Evangelion?"

Of course, Quinn would also like the "-mon" series and probably "Nadia" as well... but she probably wouldn't understand the last one.

Quinn: "I just *love* Nadia because of that *great* mid-drift she wears. You go, girl!"

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Monoke.

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Dominion

Heh, never.

hate

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emergencies..."

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I'd have thought it the other way round, WoH being a slow, thoughtful film. ("Wings" is touchy-feely?)

Then again I like slow, thoughtful films (Wings of Honneamise, Ghost in the Shell, Chungking Express).

?? Would Quinn like "Legend of Arislan" for the pretty boys? Or anything similar (CLAMP eg).

All the cute looking shows at any rate. Though not as a regular watcher.

Depends which programmes she sees. I figure she'd be smart enough to realise that while a some of it's crap, other stuff is really quite good. Just like anything else.

I dunno. Watch once with Jane and go on about how crap and mysognistic it is... Or just to freak Quinn out. Or anyone else for that matter.

Heh, heh. Totally confuse her by showing her a female anime fan who's cute and who's got style, like my friend Laura.

[!! Would Daria like "Downtown"? :D ]

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Hikaru's BoyfriendBear

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I thought so. And Quinn would enjoy it, due to the feelings she expressed in "Groped By An Angel." (This is off topic, but I'm thinking of writing a Nadesico fanfic where Gai sees "Wings" and goes through a religious phase similar to Quinn's in GBAA from it.)

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Maybe. But by that rational, she'd like Gundam Wing for the pilots and Evangelion for Shinji.

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David McWilliamsHikaru's Boyfriend

Ummmm.. Shinji is a pussy. Even though he is cool, so is Akito ;-)

Ruri-Ruri-sama was so much cooler then Rei -- just as Nadesico is cooler then Evangelion. hee hee hee...

KyleDavid McWilliams

On Mon, 28 Aug 2000 01:30:09 GMT, "David McWilliams" wrote:

FOR THE LAST TIME! I AM *NOT* GARRISON-SAN, THIS IS NOT HAT-SAN, AND YOU LITTLE MONSTERS BETTER START TALKING IN A WAY I CAN UNDERSTAND!

Kyle The Jeff Huson of alt.sports.baseball.chicago-cubs

Hikaru's BoyfriendKyle

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They're characters in anime. Ruri is a lot like Daria, and Rei is a lot like Andrea. Shinji is a lot like Stacy, despite being a male (and if you're thinking of doing a crossover fanfic, too late.) And Akito... I can't really compare him to a Daria character. Well, maybe Tom, since they both seem to be quite the reluctant ladies men.

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Hikaru's BoyfriendDavid McWilliams

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Yeah, but he *is* considered something of a bishonnen (that's pretty boy for the anime slang-impared.)

If you want to read the IDEAL mate for Shinji, read this:

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cooler

*shrugs* Each to his own.

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kchisholnick reffuse

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Monoke.

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Dominion

I admit the Patlabor was just a bit of wishful thinking, but I can imagine she'd warm to it if Tom coaxed her into giving the stuff a fair shot.

Urotsukidojii? Heh, never.

[sarcasm]Oh gee, I decided not to list that in my original post for some reason, whatever could it be? {sarcasm]

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well.

Or she might paraphrase Crow T. Robot's comment about anime from the beginning of "Prince of Space" on MST3K.

Daria: An ultra-violent porn cartoon, just the thing to brighten my day.

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kchisholMichael Sears

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Which would make it interesting to ponder how she would react Hayao Miyazaki's films like Kiki's Delivery Service and Porco Rosso, which are of an entirely different tone to the above stereotype.

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Yes, I know that Hentai is just one sub-genre. I was only kidding.

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Deeeeeep huuurting! Deeeeeep huuurting! ;7

*Damn,* I wish I could see some of the older MST episodes again. Pearl and company just aren't cutting it like Frank and Forrester were.

-IdentityCrisis

Kylekchishol

On Wed, 16 Aug 2000 05:47:57 GMT, [email] wrote:

It's a simple formula.

You project your own opinion of the subject at hand on to Daria, and use that to prop up your own inadequate logic, and disagree vehemently with anyone who thinks Daria would think differently.

Kyle The Jeff Huson of alt.sports.baseball.chicago-cubs

kchisholKyle

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Excuse me, all I wanted are some speculatiions about how the character would react just to satisfy my curiousity about what other people think. Your above comments are not appreciated.

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[email] wrote:

well as kyle said, people will project their own opinions onto daria, so when you ask "does daria like anime?" you get the responses to the question "do daria fans like anime?", which is rather irrelevant.

alli; http://www.btinternet.com/~yannaco
Phill Harvey-Smithkchishol

[email] wrote in :

Well weather you like it or not, get used to it, it's called free speech, and Kyle did make some valid points.

Phill.

On Fri, 18 Aug 2000 09:44:56 +0000, [email] (Phill Harvey-Smith) wrote:

Well, despite my overwhelming desire to produce something for you to appreciate, those comments were about a general attitude shown by some people rather than directed specifically at your post.

Kyle The Jeff Huson of alt.sports.baseball.chicago-cubs

Phill Harvey-SmithKyle

herecomethehawks@hockeymail.....com (Kyle) wrote in :

Err Kyle, please be carefull with your attributions I did not say any of what you quoted :) you snipped the bit I said, which IIRC was in your defense :)

Phill.

Hikaru's BoyfriendKyle

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No, Buzzzzzzzzz! Thank you for playing anyway.

Well, I can't speak for my fellow mutual fans, but I like anime, but as I said, I don't think Daria would like it or buy into it.

I based Quinn's liking of "WoH" on her "GBAA" trip. One of the major themes of it is the power of spirituality versus the advancements of technology and the mundane world in general, not because I didn't like it.

Although I can see what you're getting at. I've yet to meet a female Daria/Trent shipper who doesn't have a crush on Trent. Draw you're own conclusions from here.

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[email] wrote:

ignore it. we've seen no evidence so far to the contrary.

alli; http://www.btinternet.com/~yannaco

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Come to think of it, it might be easier to get Jane into anime if you could persuade her to see Kiki's Delivery Service.

She would be reluctant to see it, but I bet she would really be interested the moment Ursala the artist is introduced, and even more so with the scene when she talks about inspiration.

That would surely be enough to interest her trying out other anime productions while looking for stories equally sophisticated.

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Hm, something tell me Jane wouldn't necessarily go for sophistication. Recall the discussion with Tom about the "cinema" and Jane's want to see some flick featuring exploding eyeballs... ;)

-nick reffuse

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sophistication. Recall

some flick

Sorry, but I don't get MTV in Canada and the channel here that does show it, YTV, starts each Daria season in september.

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Alex Casenick reffuse

Then she might be interested in Ghost in the Shell (sophistication, and gratutious violence!)

nick reffuse wrote in message news:[email]...

Recall

flick

Heheheheh. Ah, poor old GitS. Visually stunning but confusing as hell. Fortunately, I read Dark Horse's US printing of the manga not long after and got most of it. Oh well. Not the first time a long-running story has been compressed into a two-hour film and suffered for it...

-nick reffuse

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My family has the same gripe about the two-hour version of Dune. :)

-IdentityCrisis

Princess Neko Tsukimikchishol

An interview with Quinn:

Interviewer: So Ms. Morgandorfer... Quinn: No, I'm busy tonight, as well as tomorrow night and most of next week also, but maybe if you offered to take me to a nice French restaurant, I could squeeze you in maybe... next month? I: Umm, no. I want to know your opinion on anime: Q: What's that? Is it a new designer? It sounds so French! I: No... Japanese Animation Q: Oh!!! Yeah! I've heard of that before. I: Well, do you watch it? Q: Well, I watch it every now and then, but it gets tooo disgusting. I mean, have you ever seen the clothes they wear in Sailormoon? Hello! They are sooooo la-ame! I mean putting pink and green together? Uhh! And they have to wear those stupid Sailor suit thingies to school and to fight in and... I: Umm, let me interrupt you. Is there any anime that you do like? Q: ::thinks:: Well, I did watch this one anime but I don't know what it was called. And I don't believe what was on the tape! The characters were speaking gibberish and there were words on the bottom of the screen. I was soooooo busy trying to figure out the gibberish they were speaking. How do they expect me to enjoy the show with all that reading at the bottom. Reading stuff from off of TV screens gives you premature wrinkles. I: It doesn't sound like you liked it much. Q: Oh I loved it. The guy with long blonde hair was just so hot. But I can figure him into my dating schedule. I: Umm, yeah. Well, we're out of time. Q: But wait! No! I'm not ::click::

Just a lil fun ^_^

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The naive cat watching the moon
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Actually, Quinn said that SM's suits weren't bad, but she liked the Powderpuff (Powerpuff?) Girl's suits better on the MTV chat transcript.

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