My "Daria" review

S03E01 Daria!retroDec 11, 199868 days before it aired89 posts by 15 posters
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Laniakea

Last week I took an English test and one of the essays I had to do was a review of a fav. tv show, movie or book. I chose to write a review of Daria. This is what I put down, as best as I could remember.

(NOTE: I know, I know, there is a lot more to the show than this but I had to follow certain directions on writing a review and I had to be brief.)

**     "Daria" is an animated TV series about high school student Daria
Morgendorffer, her life at home and at school.
     Daria is a smart, sarcastic, yet unpopular, teenager who offers witty and
wry comments wherever she sees fit. Her best friend is Jane Lane, an artist who
shares Daria's opinions on the world around them. Daria's arch-nemisis is her
cute and popular younger sister, Quinn. Other characters on the show include
Daria and Quinn's parents, Helen and Jake, their school mates and their
teachers.
     This is one of my favorite TV shows because it is a smart and witty
program. Daria is honest and says what is on her mind. I can identify with her
and I think others who watch the show will too. **

Reply however you like to this. I let you guys know what kind of grade I got on it.

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endless, namelessLaniakea

Laniakea wrote:

Fuck! We have to write at least 3 sides of A4 for every question we get! That is totally not fair! Why can't we have English tests with short answers??

Alli

Like I said, I had to follow specific directions for this part. The other essays were 1 1/2 - 2 pages long, for me anyway.

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Laniakea wrote:

We don't ever get to write about TV shows. We have to write about insane old Welsh poets who are scared of aeroplanes and think harvest is like the war in the former Yugoslavia......

Alli

endless, nameless wrote in message ...

Nothings changed. "English" is still just as daffy as it was...It doesn`t so much, test your ability to understand and communicate english, but rather your ability to pay attention to the indecipherable and tedious.

Mmmmm Important life skills though :-))

endless, namelessPaul gate

Paul gate wrote:

LOL. Another thing we had to do was a piece of "descriptive writing" about dying of a drug overdose. Of course, it should really have been called "imaginative writing," or rather, "total bullshit" as I don't *think* anyone in 11E1 has ever died of a drug overdose.....

Alli

endless, nameless wrote in message ...

He he You could entitle it "My weekend" and let the examiners try to figure out if you are mad or not :-)

On Sat, 12 Dec 1998 17:19:37 -0000, "Paul gate" wrote:

LOL Teachers never want to hear a positive drug story. Write a story saying you took a bit too much acid, discovered the meaning of life and realised that we are all actually dead. Write that life is the only true drug and that you overdosed on it when you were born. If the teacher says he/she wants to talk to you after class start scratching your arms and yell "bugs are devouring my flesh, I got the ice in me!" then jump out the window.

I once shot a man just to watch him die. Then I got distracted, and I missed it. -Dave Foley, the Kids In the Hall.

Happydude wrote in message ...

Believe me i`ve tried this, all they do is haul your "ass" back into english and make you stare at poems :-) After closing all the windows, that is. ;-)

endless, namelessHappydude

Happydude wrote:

Hehehe. I should'a done that! As it happens, I wrote the story according to the orders we were given and handed it in 4 weeks late, as usual, only to have it thrown back in my face the next lesson with the teacher screaming "Take it back! It's the worst thing I've ever read from a top set pupil! Do it again!! It's appalling, I can't even give it a grade!" as usual.

Alli

Sometimes it pays to take a chance and just be yourself in these things. Certainly that's the only time I got an "A" in a creative writing assignment, you just have to let rip and hope they don't call the men in white coats out for you when they read it.

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Paul gate wrote:

No, it was called Post Mortem, we were told it had to be that. No humour in English lessons, no no no no. That would NOT DO. The only humour allowed into our English lessons are the teachers jokes, which are often offensive to many, an offhand remark about single mothers caused one girl in the class to break down in tears last lesson, as she was actually the daughter of one....

Alli

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I remember my old R.E. teacher, whos sense of humour seemed to revolve around the terrible arbitariness of human suffering. He would demonstrate arbitary human suffering to his pupils, by launching a board rubber arbitarily at their heads... we only had him for the first year he kind of disapeared after that. I wonder where he is now....i hope he`s ok

...not that you'd realise it from their glazed expressions and stupefied immobility.

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Paul gate wrote:

Yes. I still haven't the remotest clue as to how James Joyce's "Araby" is an analogy to the religious schism or whatever in Ireland. And oh, do I ever have some choice words for William Faulkner. ;-{)>

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endless, namelessPaul gate

Paul gate wrote:

Ah, contemporary poetry's on our syllabus, so we have to do it. And we have to do a thing on newspaper articles, and we have to do an oral exam thing where we have to write, memorise and recite in front of a camera a 'Your Shout' thing, and it can be about "anything that you find annoying," the teacher claims. Like, right, if I did one about Xfm getting bought up by Capital FM it'd go down *real* well, I'm sure.

Oh, bloody hell, we have to do Shakespeare, we're going to do McBeth I think. Set 2 are just doing Romeo And Juliet which would be soooo much easier; everyone's seen the film, and we did it in year 9 for the SATs. We wouldn't even have to buy new books or anything 'cos we've all already got a copy and it'd be easy, we could just re-do all our year 9 work, but *nooooo*, we're set 1, we can do a different one, can't we?!

Alli

endless, nameless wrote in message ...

Ha ha Yeah.. you`d have to fake a heartfelt rant about how English teachers aren`t paid enough :-)

mmm that does get confusing in places but at least i was able to decipher the main plot points Ie its set in Denmark, and one of the main characters goes mad and theres a ghost and they all die horribly in the end, because of some amusing mixup (errr i think)

Its stuff *LIKE* this that bugs me .....(this is not real shakespear btw)

"I take thy honour and rest it apon a grassy knoll" (crowd roars with laughter)

Huh?

But i seem to remember Romeo and Juliet had some of those "jokes" in it too I don`t think i was educated properly at all I seem to remember we had a history teacher that was absolutely LOONY about crop rotation in the fourteenth century europe We spent two whole years on crop rotation. Is that normal!!? If we wanted to find out about the post enlightenment years we had to watch telly

endless, namelessPaul gate

Paul gate wrote:

Our teacher'd eat that right up. Her sarcasm detector stopped working about 35 years ago...

Well, that sounds a hell of a lot better than two wussy kids who end up killing themselves over someone they've known for, like, a week or something.

My year 7 History teacher was mad. He kept calling me Anna, and when my parents spoke to him on Parent's Evening, he started off by saying, "Anna's a lovely girl, but for some reason I keep getting her name wrong..."

Alli

endless, nameless wrote in message ...

At least theres loads of death and blood and people going bonkers If only they could cut out all that tedious nonesense between the action Oh and before you get too exited the ghost isn`t all that scary as far as i can remember he just hangs about making comments

ROFL Thats so funny, I can`t stop laughing

endless, namelessPaul gate

Paul gate wrote:

So, is it better than Romeo And Juliet, would you say?

Nor could I when I heard it! I wasn't there, but my parents came home and that was the first thing they told me about what teachers had said about me, it was the only thing they could remember!

Alli

endless, nameless wrote in message ...

This is terribly embarrasing Alli I have just described Hamlet to you not Mcbeth Mcbeth has witches in it, not ghosts

Any how the principles the same ;-)

Sorry

endless, namelessPaul gate

Paul gate wrote:

That's OK, by the time my English class gets around to doing McBeth I'd have forgotten anyway, we're terribly behind the other classes and Shakespeare's the last piece of work we're going to do. :)

Is that better than Romeo And Juliet, though? :)

Alli

Was Yorick the ghost or was that something else entirely. I remember someone picking up a skull and saying "Alas poor Yorick -- I knew him, Horatio."

MacBeth is the one with the compulsive hand cleaning isn't it. Lady MacBeth goads her husband into assassinating his way to kingship, and then she finds imaginary bloodstains on her hands and can't get rid of them, uttering the immortal line "Out, damned spot!" as she scrubs away at her hands. It all starts with the three old witches on the heath stirring a cauldron and foretelling to MacBeth that he will be the king.

Kurosawa did a great remake of it as a Japanese epic, I forget which one it was, possibly Ran (or was that the King Lear remake? I don't know King Lear.)

One of the plays has a walking forest too, but again I only remember it from the Kurosawa version though. Come to think of it, wasn't Apocalypse Now a remake of a Kurosawa film? It was based on some Japanese epic that got re-located to Vietnam, hence the bizarre and unlikely storyline.

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Shez wrote in message ...

That was hamlet...He returns home, fully recovered, after spending some time "going mad" in England then err starts fiddling with dead people I think Yorick *was* the court jester err before he got burried. I`m not sure if i remember "who" the ghost was, but i have this impression that he was related in some way to one of the main characters.

paperpusherShez

Shez wrote:

"Well, Hamlet has a skull in it." -- Mack, to Kevin, Boy Genius.

Ran was the Lear Remake. Lear-- foolish old king, 3 daughters. 2 mean ones, 1 nice one. The nice one gets screwed over by foolish King Lear. Lear goes blind and dies. A really cheerful play. Worst line-- "Out, vile jelly!" as someone gouges out Lear's eyes. I forget who-- it's been a looong time since I read King Lear.

Apocalypse Now was based on "Heart of Darkness" by Conrad, I believe... the documentary about the making of the movie was called "Hearts of Darkness" -- it was a very difficult movie to make, since when Dennis Hopper wasn't freaking out, Marlon Brando was expanding to Jovian proportions, or it wouldn't stop raining, or.... you get the idea.

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Hey, Heart of Darkness was the book Daria was reading at the end of the episode where they visit that school (Gifted?). What fun books she likes. Mind you in my experience girls of that age spend most of their time reading horror novels anyhow so I guess she's not that unusual.

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Shez wrote in article ...

Yorick was the old jester -- "I knew him, Horatio, a fellow of most infinite jest; he hath borne me on his back a thousand times. Where be your jibes now, your gambols, your flashes of merriment that were wont to set the table on a roar?" (Or something like that; I'm going completely from memory. But now you know where Mr. David Foster Wallace got his title from.)

That's right. If you haven't already, read Pratchett's "Wyrd Sisters," which is a very funny satire of Macbeth and theatre/Shakespeare in general.

Ran is the Macbeth remake; Throne of Blood is the King Lear one. Both are really good movies.

--Paul "I hate being quoted." --Ralph Waldo Emerson

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For British Darianites, Channel 4 is showing the cartoon at the end of the month.

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KyleShez

On Tue, 15 Dec 1998 02:10:12 +0000, Shez wrote:

Yep, that was one of my favorite Shakespearean plays.

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So it wasn't a lone gunman behind the grassy knoll...

This is a joke, isn't it? You're just trying to trick me into quoting "The Young Ones" again, aren't you?

"Crop rotation in the fourteenth century was much more widespread..." "Considerably more widespread." "What?" "You said do it properly and don't skip bits."

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Paul gateShadoc64

Shadoc64 wrote in message ...

No, shakespeare didn`t go for cheap laughs like that he made his audience work ;-)

I liked the way Rick mixed up "sexy" with "sexist"

"Vyviaaaan stop being so sexy!"

endless, namelessShadoc64

Shadoc64 wrote:

Oh, I know that one! That's where they go on University Challenge or whatever it's called, isn't it? I like the one where that loser one kills Neil. LOL. "You killed a hippy......"

Alli

Shadoc64 wrote:

     "Well, not that much, you stupid bloody hippie!"
     "You said to do it properly. How was I to know that wasn't important?"
     "Well it wasn't! All right? Crop rotation in the fourteenth century was
CON-siderably....."

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ShezLaniakea

I don't know why but I misread that as "handmade bread bracelet" at first. That would be cool, like emergency rations or something. I guess they wouldn't last as long as those necklaces made out of sweets though.

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Shez wrote:

Those sweet necklaces don't last 5 minutes. There's not enough sweets on there! I wish I was still a kid......

Alli

I was thinking more in terms of how long before they went stale or mouldy. And don't you officially still have a few days of kidhood left? Better indulge in all that childish behaviour quickly before it passes its sell-by date.

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Shez wrote:

LOL. It isn't fair! My friend Carla gets to be a kid until late August! And, like she keeps reminding me, when she's 39, I'll be 40. Although I will probably have murdered her long before then....

Alli

On Sun, 13 Dec 1998 22:35:58 +0000, "endless, nameless" wrote:

16 is the cutoff date?!?!?!! I lost my childhood without even knowing it?!?!?!!?!?!

This is TRUELY depressing. Goodbye cruel world...

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Martin SylvesterKyle

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Well, sorry to tell you, but at least in the UK it's earlier than that:

"s107 Children and Young Persons Act 1933 'Child' - Under the age of 14 years 'Young Person' - Attained the age of 14 years but under 18"

Of course you can now do things you couldn't (legally) before:

"Under 15 years: Not admitted to a knacker's yard. Under 16 years: Alien need not register. Liqueur chocolates must not be sold to. Fireworks may not be supplied to. Marriage of person under 16 is void. May not drive any motor vehicle. Education compulsory if 5 years or over. "

More like this, with listings for ages 5, 7, 10, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16 & 17 at http://www.rainer.demon.co.uk/law.htm

"Under 12 years: Must not be trained in dangerous performances." So the fire-eating, chainsaw-juggling shepherds will have to be cut from the Junior School's nativity play. 8-(

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"Martin Sylvester" wrote:

Aw, rats! That's always my favorite part! No point in going if they won't be performing.

rich

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Junior

I've only just realised the flaw in that statement. The fire-eating, chainsaw-juggling shepherds can stay, as long as they're not *trained* in fire-eating and chainsaw juggling: they can just pick it up for themselves on the night of the performance! 8-)

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On Mon, 14 Dec 1998 16:02:25 +0000, "endless, nameless" wrote:

It's not a pleasant feeling, is it.

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endless, namelessKyle

Kyle wrote:

Quit doing that!! You're making me look weirder than you!!! :)

Alli

On Mon, 14 Dec 1998 22:42:52 +0000, "endless, nameless" wrote:

But its SO much fun.

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endless, namelessKyle

Kyle wrote:

No, no, NO!! I will not have THAT in my fake sig!! No Spice Girls, OK??? :)

Alli

On Tue, 15 Dec 1998 00:22:10 +0000, "endless, nameless" wrote:

Deal

But fake sig? I have no idea what you're talking about.

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endless, namelessKyle

Kyle wrote:

Should I be proud to say that I don't think I know that one?

Alli

HappydudeKyle

On 15 Dec 1998 00:47:34 GMT, [email] (Kyle) wrote:

What fake sig?

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endless, namelessHappydude

Happydude wrote:

OK, so before, when I had a sig, you made fun of it! And now, when I don't have a sig, you're still maing fun of it!! Stop!! No Hanson, please!! :)

Alli

On Tue, 15 Dec 1998 01:16:09 +0000, "endless, nameless" wrote:

In best Kevin Thompson voice...."sorrrry"

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Martin Sylvesterendless, nameless

endless, nameless wrote in message ...

"Bummer." 8-)

And, starting on Wednesday, you have only two years left as a young person!

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endless, namelessMartin Sylvester

Martin Sylvester wrote:

Being a young person sucks. I don't want to be a young person, I want to be able to buy my own booze!

Alli

On Mon, 14 Dec 1998 16:41:13 +0000, "endless, nameless" wrote:

In the 2 months following my 21st birthday I went to 3 different bars and about a dozen different stores to buy alcohol and not one of those places checked my ID. I only got carded when my roommate, at the time, bought a round and told the bartender to card me when it was my turn to buy. Give it a shot. Who knows, you may walk away with some booze, a box of cigar's, and a truckload of fireworks! Now that's a party.

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endless, namelessHappydude

Happydude wrote:

I look like an anorexic twelve-year-old on growth hormones. I don't think I'll be able to pass for 18 *just* yet....... :)

Alli

On Mon, 14 Dec 1998 18:21:15 +0000, "endless, nameless" wrote:

oops, I forgot to add the usual disclaimer "not that I would encourage that type of behavior." Someone your age should be taking LSD and jumping out of windows.

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Martin Sylvesterendless, nameless

endless, nameless wrote in message ...

Well, it's little or no consolation, but from Wednesday you can buy liqueur chocolates. I guess you'd prefer it if it were chocolate liqueur....

"Great party! What's it for?" "Alli's birthday. That's her, there." "What's she doing?" "She's breaking open a kilogram of liqueur chocolates and pouring the contents into that bottle." "Right. I see. I have to go now."

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endless, namelessMartin Sylvester

Martin Sylvester wrote:

LOL. The party's next Monday, actually. It's a sleepover, so I could only invite 5 people, but that's OK, that's less people I'll no doubt make a prat of myself in front of. Less people to vomit on the carpet as well.

Alli

ShezKyle

Kyle of writes:

It's probably different in the US, but in the UK the age of consent is 16, which seems a good point to say the innocence of childhood is officially over, although people don't get to vote or buy alcohol until they're 18.

ISTR that most of these things are 21 in the US, though I guess it depends on which state you live in.

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KyleShez

On Mon, 14 Dec 1998 08:19:14 +0000, Shez wrote:

16 to drive 18 to have sex, vote, and smoke 21 to drink

None of these are remotely observed except voting and maybe driving.

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HappydudeKyle

On 14 Dec 1998 22:16:21 GMT, [email] (Kyle) wrote:

Try all 3 at the same time. America is truly the land of opportunity!

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I guess this is why people voted for Bill Clinton.

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Kyle wrote:

You're kidding, right? 18 to smoke??? You get 8-year-olds smoking around here!

Alli

Er yeah but you're supposed to be 17 to do it aren't you? I think 17 is the age for driving and smoking in the UK.

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Shez wrote:

No, smoking is definitely 16. My friend works in a shop, and she's not allowed to sell cigarrettes until her birthday, apparently, in case she sells

them to herself, or something......

Alli

Not that that means it, anyhow, since here you have to be 18 to sell liquor but 21 to buy it, don't ask me how THAT works, but I used to work at a grocery store. Oh, and by the way in Canada I think the age is 19 to both smoke and drink, we were commenting on this when we were in Stratford.

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endless, namelessEccles9697

Eccles9697 wrote:

Oh, OK. But you definitely can smoke at 16 here. I've just turned 16, and now my friends are asking me to buy lottery tickets for them, on an irrelevant note......

Why should you have to wait to be 19 to smoke? It's stupid. Actually, I think the laws saying you can't drink until you're whatever age are really stupid. It just means that there's a whole lot of kids who think drinking's really cool and all, just because it's illegal for them, it's so stupid.

It isn't like that in places where you can drink at any age, noone's afraid to admit that they don't like alcohol, for example, a girl I know who's French will quite happily admit that she doesn't drink because she doesn't like it. I wouldn't say that myself, obviously, because I *do* like it, but not because I think getting drunk is really cool or something.

Alli

They smoke lottery tickets?

There speaks the professional drinker.

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endless, namelessShez

Shez wrote:

I wouldn't be surprised......

I don't drink *much*, you know!

Alli

i know that here in the US (perhaps only MI?), althoughyou have to be 18 to BUY cigs, you must be 16 to sell them. its 18 to sell liquor or beer etc, 21 to buy. dont ask me why, i didnt draft the laws.

Saerah

Eccles9697Kyle

I think that the sex bit if you're talking about "age of consent" and all that varies from state to state, it's 16 in Michigan....

True... in fact the age 18 is generally defined as "the age of no longer having to buy cigarettes at Archie's"...

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AniSaerahKyle

in MI the age of consent is 17, i think Saerah

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Yeah, it's 16 here in the US too Dagny misery chick, cynic, general loony

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In article , [email] wrote:

Childhood ends at 16? I never noticed... My teenage years passed me by in a blur; I'm vicariously re-living them through watching "Daria". I wish I was 10 years younger, but with the same mind set and attitudes...

Quote mastication: "When I was a child I played with childish things. Now I am a man... I'll put them away later. No, really, I will. They're not in anyone's way are they? Look, I put them in a box, there, under the table. I'll put them in the attic this weekend... Or when I get around to it..."

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endless, namelessKyle

Kyle wrote:

Sorry mate....Maybe you can be a kid until you're 18.

Hey, that isn't fair!

Alli

On Mon, 14 Dec 1998 15:59:18 +0000, "endless, nameless" wrote:

1. Please don't call me mate. It's too British. You need to practice your Americanisms for when we take over your little island, anyway.

2. I don't think you can set a specific age where people magically turn from adult to children. Besides, I'm behind in the cycle. I haven't even had a girlfriend yet, so I'm still around 10 in the old development cycle. I got me at least 12 more years at this rate.

No, but its fun.

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endless, namelessKyle

Kyle wrote:

Sorry! It's just hard not to when you're so used to saying that!

Ah, I have had one boyfriend, but I didn't fancy him much so I did the wussy thing after 2 weeks and started pretending to be out whenever he called. I have to say, I am sorta ashamed of doing that now.

Alli

On Mon, 14 Dec 1998 22:46:06 +0000, "endless, nameless" wrote:

You shouldn't. I got asked out by a girl I had a huge crush on, and apparently she had one on me even worse. I got freaked out by the thought of a girl liking me (this was when I was *only* 14), and promptly told her that "I have some homework I have to do now, I'll get back to you, I have no idea what to say". She's probably still waiting.

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R. K. HenryKyle

Kyle wrote in message ...

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Don't worry, it's irrelevant. I'm well past that age and I'm nowhere near being past childhood. Childish behavior isn't a sign of childhood, it's a sign of being alive. The very definition of "old" is when you start telling other people to, "Act your age." When you start thinking that way you'll know--it's nearly time to lie down and die--you're old. In the meantime, enjoy your childishness, for a lifetime. Just keep it on a short enough leash that you'll be fit to live in civilized society.

Bob

endless, namelessR. K. Henry

"R. K. Henry" wrote:

I'm not fit to live in civilised society whether I keep my childish side hidden or not, I'm still not above throwing grade 1 hissy fits for no apparent reason....

Alli

On Mon, 14 Dec 1998 19:56:47 +0000, "endless, nameless" wrote:

I throw hissy fits too, I always assumed it had something to do with my depression. Half the time my fits are caused by some commercial or something in the news, the other half is triggered by the thoughtless actions of the people around me or society in general.

I once shot a man just to watch him die. Then I got distracted, and I missed it. -Dave Foley, the Kids In the Hall.
endless, namelessHappydude

Happydude wrote:

I think my hissy fits are due to being taught by my dad's example that yelling at people without good cause just because you're pissed off is acceptable. But maybe I'm just a bad-tempered bitch. :)

Alli

On Mon, 14 Dec 1998 20:54:04 +0000, "endless, nameless" wrote:

Hmm, I think that falls under the category of "thoughtless actions of the people around you." If someone asks me to do something before my morning coffee I'll ignore them (on a good day) or go through a total meltdown (any other day)

As long as your bitchiness is directed at the right people, go for it, embrace your bitch-hood. I havn't read any of the other newsgroups you haunt but judging from your posts here you're not as much of a bitch as you claim. But if I were to call Courtney Love a murderer I'm sure I'd get a dose of bitchiness, but I don't think she did it so I wont say it.

Excuse my while I go check my dictionary. I think I just used 3 or 4 words, in that last paragraph, that dont exist. How cromulent of me.

I once shot a man just to watch him die. Then I got distracted, and I missed it. -Dave Foley, the Kids In the Hall.
endless, namelessHappydude

Happydude wrote:

Ah, well, I don't have this problem, I'm not a caffeine addict! I can't stand coffee (although it doesn't cause me to vomit as onions do) so the only reason I go mad at people in the mornings is because they have woken me up. :)

Good. I'll spare my flaming for the Nirvana newsgroup, as usual.

Alli

im 19. but i think im permanently stuck at thinking im 17. i feel like im getting away with something when i smoke a cig. Saerah