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S03E01 Daria!retroAug 29, 19996 months later116 posts by 32 posters
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I think US Pacific time is GMT-8 and East coast time GMT-5, whilst Australia is GMT+10 (assuming there's only one time zone - is that right?). So I think you need to add 18 hours to the US Pacific times, ie. 6-7pm would be noon-1pm the following day in Australia (or 2am-3am in the UK) and "brunch", 11am-2pm Sundays, would be 5am-8am Mondays in Australia (or Sunday 7-10pm in the UK).
This assumes though that everyone has their daylight saving time shifted in the same direction. If Australia isn't on saving time (it being Winter) then the times will be an hour different, though I'm not sure in which direction and trying to work it out would probably make my head hurt more than it does now.
I just thought of looking at your message header though and it says you're +10 hours, whereas we're currently +1 in the UK, which suggests you are only 9 hours ahead of us or 17 hours ahead of current US Pacific time, ie. chats at 10am-1pm or brunch at 4-7am.
-Shez.
Shez wrote:
Thanks, Shez. Somehow I don't think they'll let me stay home from work just so
I can have a chat with everyone, and I wouldn't be good company at four in the
morning.
For the record, there are about three time zones during the winter, but
in the summer all hell breaks loose. Some states have daylight savings and some
don't, so we end up with about five or six. Phoning someone interstate can be
hell!
Hmmm. Maybe I can make their Friday session, seeing as it will be my
Saturday morning.Bill.
quelqun parle francais
Pourquoi? Sincerely Yours, Jordan
"Man, as we know him, is a poor creature; but he is halfway between an ape and a god and he is travelling in the right direction." (Dean William R. Inge)
In article ,
D'accord. Pourquoi?
Sincerement, Rev. Paul L. Vasquez
ocknay offay theay orienfay angugelay readyalay.
On the mountaintop, "Bob Ohler" spake thusly:
*prepares her Latin notes, and dives in (pardon my nonmarked long vowels, and messed-up cases, and just general being a first-year Latin student, although I doubt anyone will notice or care)*
Cur impedire vulus? Vidisne laeti puellae et pueri sumus? Praeterea, quid periculum est?
-Puella Mindy, quem brevi tempore sedet et scribit et legit.
I really hope that made sense.
Mindy wrote in message news:[email]...
thusly:
vowels, and
although I
quid
Well Mindy, I only had two years of Latin and it was longer ago than you've been alive but I think I got it. Hadda crack a book though. Thanks for the refresher.
BTW folks, a reminder, the Internet is an international medium and, naturally, Daria is an international star. You have to expect an variety of languages singing her praises. I wouldn't have it any other way. Besides, it's an opportunity to learn something new. Brains go for that sort of thing. Not everyone speaks English you know. Being from Tennessee I know that as well as anyone.
I bet very few Daria fans have Latin as a native language, though. :) or people in general.
Dagny
http://members.aol.com/Eccles9697
"And the people bowed and prayed to the neon god they made... and the sign said the words of the prophets are written on the subway walls and tenement halls and whispered in the sounds of silence" Paul Simon
On the mountaintop, [email] (Dagny Scott) spake thusly:
Too much time on my hands. telemarket in long-distance savings" from just my Latin-to-English notes. It's proving challenging. ^_^
-Mindy Too much time on my hands.
"Daria, you're giving me a headache!!" -Quinn Morgendorffer, "Daria"
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On the mountaintop, [email] (Mindy) spake thusly:
*slaughters her newsreader* Anyone have any recommendations for a good newsreader? ^_^ Can't remember what I wanted to say...
-Mindy
On Fri, 01 Oct 99 00:24:02 GMT, [email] (Mindy) wrote:
Agent's pretty kickass - Free Agent doesn't provide filtering or full text search, but is damned stable - I've never had either Agent or Free Agent crash on me.
Damon Orca on #Stars!
On the mountaintop, [email] (Damon Domjan) spake thusly:
Gracias. I'll look into that.
-Mindy Hoping NX doesn't kill THIS post, too
On Sat, 02 Oct 99 14:52:31 GMT, [email] (Mindy) wrote:
Go to http://www.forteinc.com for the full poop. The full version of Agent is only $29, by the way... well worth the money. (Agent's more than a little long in the tooth -- it doesn't have the flash and gimmicks of many of today's bloated apps -- but there's still a lot of power under the hood, more than enough to handle news and mail for a long time to come.)
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http://www.lawndale.net -OR- http://systech.simplenet.com/daria/On the mountaintop, Martin J. Pollard spake thusly:
Thanks muchly, am downloading the trial version as I type. Will see if I have the cash to buy it anytime in the near future. *sighs* I need a job.
-Mindy "My mom she says go get a job, but she don't like the one she's got..."
Dagny Scott wrote in message news:[email]...
variety
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or people
Latin isn't as dead as you might think. It still finds extensive use in the sciences, medicine, law and religion. Those genus and species names you find in biology are usually Latin or something modified to sound like Latin. The Doctors use Latin names for all the parts of the body. Call something by its English name, it's pornography, call it by its Latin name and it's scientific. And of course the lawyers use Latin for lots of things. That's partly because we get a great deal of our modern western law and politics directly or indirectly from the Romans. Of course it's mostly so the lawyers can keep the unwashed masses from figuring out what they're up to. Maybe that's why some religious services are still conducted in Latin too.
Browse your dictionary. You'll find that many of our modern English words are rooted in Greek and Latin. Many of our English words come directly from Latin unchanged. Others are so slightly changed that you can recognize them easily. If you want to better understand English, study Latin.
Latin and Greek have traditionally been considered an essential part of a complete education. Latin at least seems cerebral even when what you're saying isn't. Latin students quite frequently translate all sorts of naughty things into Latin as a joke, just to see what they can get away with. What fun! Putting up something that would get you arrested or expelled if you wrote it in English but no one catches on since they don't know Latin. (Hmm--kinda makes me wish I'd been a better Latin student.) I'm just glad that brainy kids like Mindy are keeping the traditions alive.
"converse in Latin over a delicious meal..."
They're not doing masses in it any more, dammit. Although my father's friend (who is, incidently, an atheist) can recite the entire Latin mass. All I know is "Introibo ad altare Dei" from Ulysses. Most of the Latin I know is from Joyce :) umm "Et ignotas animum dimittit in artes"
Yeah and the guy modified himself to sound Latin... Carlus Linneaus... haha.
Ah yess. Habeas corpus ex post facto to you. (Latin version of the attempt at Spanish going like "burrito chimichanga"
I really would take Latin if it was offered. I'm too lazy to do it on my own, although Frau still has a bunch of Latin books.
I dunno, the "Rome is in Italy. Italy is in Europe. Britain is in Europe. Britain is an Island. Italy is not an island. Italy is almost an island. Italy is a penninsula" phrases in Latin didn't seem real cerebral when I looked at them.
Dagny
http://members.aol.com/Eccles9697
"And the people bowed and prayed to the neon god they made... and the sign said the words of the prophets are written on the subway walls and tenement halls and whispered in the sounds of silence" Paul Simon
Dagny Scott wrote in message news:[email]...
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I know
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You're a Joyce fan. That might be reason enough to study Latin.
haha.
"She's a great kidder. Ha ha, Daria." "Ha ha, Quinn."
attempt at
One that pops into my head is prima fascie. Or e pluribus unum.
you
my own,
It's really too bad that Latin isn't being offered. And a lot of other subjects as well. Still, there's nothing stopping you from picking up a book and doing a little exploring on your own. If you don't like it you're not really out anything.
You know you want to.
Europe.
island. Italy
looked at
Or "All Gaul [France] is divided into three parts."
Veni. Vidi. Vici.
Daria: "I've come. I've seen. Let's go."
So just where do you think Daria got that line?
Yes there is. I'm a lazy bum. Isn't that good enough?
Dagny
http://members.aol.com/Eccles9697
"And the people bowed and prayed to the neon god they made... and the sign said the words of the prophets are written on the subway walls and tenement halls and whispered in the sounds of silence" Paul Simon
Dagny Scott said:
In pre-industrial times, Latin was the language of learning. Scientists wrote papers in Latin, and as a matter of course Latinized their own names. This tradition goes back to alchemists like Paracelsus and Albertus Magnus, at least.
Sincerely Yours, Jordan
"Man, as we know him, is a poor creature; but he is halfway between an ape and a god and he is travelling in the right direction." (Dean William R. Inge)
R. K. Henry wrote: <snip discussion of virtues of Latin and Greek>
Or how about Greek instead? My friend Roula is trying to teach me some Greek in exchange for some Spanish lessons from me. So far I've learned two very helpful phrases, "se agapo", which means "I love you", and "gamis sou", which means "fuck you". Both of which are very usable phrases IMO. :)
On the other hand you could argue that Spanish is very derivative from Latin, etc., etc., etc....
Se agapo,
Diane
Diane said:
I've heard that it basically IS Vulgate Latin with the conjugations further relaxed and different word endings and pronounciation.
Sincerely Yours, Jordan
"Man, as we know him, is a poor creature; but he is halfway between an ape and a god and he is travelling in the right direction." (Dean William R. Inge)
Jordan S. Bassior wrote:
You're kidding...? No way! And Spanish is such an easy language as compared to Latin. Or at leaset it seems to be.
Wow.
Diane
On the mountaintop, [email] spake thusly:
Having taken both Spanish and Latin, the only real difference is that people can never tell whether you really know Latin or are just BSing them, whereas when you say you're learning Spanish, people fire some ridiculously long sentence in Spanish at you at about six hundred miles a second and leave you just going, "What?!" and feeling like an idiot.
-Mindy Uno dos tres quatro cinco cinco seis.
"Daria, you're giving me a headache!!" -Quinn Morgendorffer, "Daria"
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i hate it when people do that. horribly embarrassing.
we have a french girl in our french class. she is taking one year of the A level course, so she knows what to expect when she does the exam in [whenever]. when we have *class debate* thingies, we'll all be struggling tenses and pronouncing english words in a french accent hoping that the word is the same, and she'll reel off a long monologue at 50000 words per second while everyone else sits there and looks blank.
has anyone actually listened to that song since, like, a fortnight after it was released? lol i can't remember any of the rest of it. :)
And what do you get out it? I took a semester of French and all I can say now is "je te plumerei"
On Sat, 02 Oct 1999 07:06:14 GMT, [email] wrote:
<snip dialog on foreign languages>
I always feel rather guilty when it comes to foreign languages as I can't even speak my native language fluently. I know Malay well enough, being subject to the language for 13 years of my life. But as I'm Chinese, it's always been sort of a family joke that I don't know how to speak in Chinese. Me and about 3 of my cousins weren't Chinese educated, and all we know of the language are bits and pieces we learned from television shows and overheard conversations. More often than not, I tend to mix up Cantonese and Mandarin words, and that's like a cardinal sin to mix up dialects. And of course most of us know the curse words (it's almost compulsory to know it lest you're being insulted and you don't even know it).
It isn't all education though. A lot of my Chinese friends learned Chinese at home because their parents spoke in Chinese all the time. They were English educated as was I. And they could speak both languages very fluently. My parents always spoke to each other in English, and they always spoke to me in English. It was just cultivated from a young age.
It's all about practice though, isn't it? My boyfriend has taken 3 whole semesters of French, and he can't remember a damn thing. That's probably 'cause he doesn't speak French outside of class, and he studied it just to fulfill a graduation requirement. There has to be some amount of interest and practice I bet.
I myself intend to study Mandarin later on in my college career, so that I can finally converse in a Chinese dialect. It's also rather useful as it seems to be the world's most widely spoken language (That could be China's fault though, with it's millions of people). I certainly hope to remember at least most of it later on.. and escape the fate of forgetfulness that has befallen quite a few of those who have taken foreign languages.
She who should actually start polishing her English first before she runs around trying to learn another language...
Nicole Lee Also known as LadyKender on IRC and ICQ. The Darianite Revolution at http://members.xoom.com/nlsy/daria.htm Kendermore at http://members.xoom.com/nlsy/
"But I don't want to be in any 'inner circle cabal thing.'" -Hallucinating Elvis Lady to SpaceRanger on atd-
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Nicole Lee said:
How similar, by the way, is Malay to Tagalog (the dominant language of the Philippines, and possibly one of the few living cousins of Sumerian)?
Do you think that, with the increased travel and communication in modern China, the dialects will remain pure, or do you think that maybe they will tend to mix? From what I understand of Chinese history, originally China was a bunch of seperate nations which were united over thousands of years of empires, and modern Chinese dialects are essentially a version of whatever language the proto-Han spoke overlain with a lot of regional and immigrant borrowings.
I found I remembered a lot more of French than I thought when I had to have a conversation with a woman who spoke only French. After that I started to get into reading French magazines and books, and a lot of my skill came back :)
It's at least a strong competitor to English in that regard. (English has Britain, America, Australia, Canada, New Zealand, and South Africa as homelands, and is learned by a LOT of people in other countries). Though do most overseas Chinese speak Mandarin or Cantonese? Or both?
Sincerely Yours, Jordan
"Man, as we know him, is a poor creature; but he is halfway between an ape and a god and he is travelling in the right direction." (Dean William R. Inge)
ironically, having chosen to take french a level and not spanish, and having gotten a higher grade in french, i am now remembering more spanish than french.. ick.
you know what? my school is threatening to send all of us doing French A level off to stay with french families! like, no way!! i don't care if it means everyone else gets a better grade than me, i am NOT going to live with a load of strangers for a week!
endless, nameless wrote in message news:[email]...
What difference does it make? By your accounts you're already living with a load of strangers.
at least they speak approximately the same language as me. ;)
she who has a stomach ache,
yess... and still speak to their families in Cantonese, leaving poor little white girl very, very confused. aww... everyone feel sorry for me now, OK?
Well the optimum time to learn foreign languages is very young, like about 5 years of age. It becomes harder as you get older. It's like: you're brain works more when you're a little kid than now because it's got stuff to work through. Which is why "wild children" who don't learn a first language in youth generally don't learn much of any language ever, because the time's past.
she who spends too much time at Stephen's house and in Psychology class,
Dagny
http://members.aol.com/Eccles9697
"And the people bowed and prayed to the neon god they made... and the sign said the words of the prophets are written on the subway walls and tenement halls and whispered in the sounds of silence" Paul Simon
On 09 Oct 1999 14:18:00 GMT, some letters randomly coalesced from individual pixels, claiming to be from [email] (Dagny Scott), and it said:
Or rather, much of the "wiring" in the brain is still in the works, especially the language areas of the brain, making it much easier to learn languages. Once you reach a certain age, those areas of the brain are pretty much solidified, with few plans to make new linkages. This makes learning a foreign language much more difficult than at younger ages, and makes requiring a foreign language at high school level, while ignoring the potential at grade school, a very stupid idea.
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And what do you get out it? I took a semester of French and all I can say now is "je te plumerei"
[email] of Deja.com - Before you buy. writes:
I spent five years learning French and although I passed the exam the only French I can remember is "je suis English", and I expect I've even got that wrong. Maybe it's "j'avez English" ... I seem to recall in French you often have to say "I have x" instead of "I am x". No wait, don't the French have another word for English? One thing that often puzzles me is why we often don't call countries by their proper names, instead we have our own names for other people's countries. I mean how many Japanese would recognise the name "Japan"? They call it "Nihon". I think literally translated that means "Sun land", it's sun-something anyway, as Ni means sun. (Hey, I think I know as much Japanese as I do French!) But where did we get "Japan" from? Similarly "Germany", it sounds like a place that germs would live.
Then of course there's the way part of a place gets confused with the whole of it, eg USA and America, England and Britain, Holland and the Netherlands. I can understand foreigners getting confused about Britain though, we seem to have so many overlapping names that even a lot of British people don't get it right. I recall once on a radio phone-in someone saying he didn't like how people would say Northern Ireland wasn't part of Great Britain. The presenter retorted "but it's not part of Great Britain you idiot", and in the end he cut the caller off as he obviously couldn't grasp the difference between Great Britain (ie. the main land mass) and the United Kingdom (the country).
-Shez.
On the mountaintop, Shez spake thusly: <snip>
Oh, I'm so very confused... *buries her face in her hands and gives up*
Hey, even though my newsreader got rid of it, I couldn't help but notice that I'm in your .sig. Cool. *grins*
-Mindy Now I have to think of something to put in mine... hmmmmmm... oh, forget it. :-P
Mindy wrote in message news:[email]...
England+Wales = Britain England+Wales+Scotland = Great Britain Engalnd+Wales+Scotland+Northern Ireland = United Kingdom
"All very confusing, really."
Martin.
On the mountaintop, "Martin Sylvester" spake thusly:
All right, I'm going to ask a very silly, very Ugly American question: where the heck is Wales anyway?
-Mindy You're afraid of Americans. And you've got some damn good reasons.
Mindy wrote in message news:[email]...
where
Not silly at all. Why should you know about UK geography anyway?
Wales is west of central England (and north of the western bit of southern England), and (before anyone else asks <g>), Scotland is north of northern England. Use a monospaced font like Courier to view this attempt at an ASCII map:
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ssssssss s=Scotland
sssssssss w=Wales
sssssss e=England
eeeee *=Swadlincote
eeeeee j=John O'Groats
eeeeeee h=Haverfordwest
eeeeeeeee l=Land's End
wwweeeeeeeeee L=London
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leeeeeeeHTH!
Martin.
On the mountaintop, "Martin Sylvester" spake thusly:
Good question. Because I don't want to be the stereotypical "Canada's in China somewhere, right?" American kid in regards to such things.
<snip cool map>
Thanks muchly! I finally *understand* what the heck everyone's talking about. *laughs*
-Mindy
Mindy wrote in message news:[email]...
Good response. No-one can reasonably expect you to know about UK geography, so the question wasn't silly; and your determination to avoid the cluelessness about the world beyond the USA that marks some of your compatriots (and some of mine, mutatis mutandis), does you credit. You've *never* struck me as stereotypical, Mindy. 8-)
Thanks for the comment!
about.
Wow! I didn't think the map was *that* good. The babelfish map, only on atd! <g>
Martin.
LOL... I guess you don't get ignorance about Canada in a state half-surrounded by it, although there's still ignorance :) There was this picture of these German kids in Lederhosen Deanna thought they dressed like that all the time and was like "are those your people?" to Matthias, the exchange student (aka "Germany" in Huizinga's class...) although Matthias did not wear any Lederhosen.
Dagny
http://members.aol.com/Eccles9697
"And the people bowed and prayed to the neon god they made... and the sign said the words of the prophets are written on the subway walls and tenement halls and whispered in the sounds of silence" Paul Simon
On the mountaintop, [email] (Dagny Scott) spake thusly:
Hey, I'm only across the Michigan Puddle from you, and we *still* have kids who think Ontario's in Mexico somewhere.
-Mindy the Shameless Wisconsinite
Time without Dew: 11 hours 17 minutes
Mindy wrote:
(howling with laughter)
I can't wait to tell my Mexican relatives that there are some Wisconsinite schoolchildren who think Ontario is a state in Mexico. "Yes, Ontario as in the province in Canada...yes, I cracked up too."
Of course, conversely I take for granted the proximity of Mexico...and don't as many Americans do think solely of beaches when I think of the country because I've been to the REAL Mexico, the interior, far away from the idiot tourist-drenched beaches. (idiot because I consider anyone willing to roast themselves out in direct sunlight for hours, especially in a beach setting, as being an idiot...my tan is not beautiful, nor was it created from the sun...it was something I was born with and has only served the purpose of getting British and Portuguese people to think I'm Mexican)
Hey, at least your state has cooler stereotypes.
Counting down, I see? Why not just give in?
Diane
On the mountaintop, [email] spake thusly:
[snip actual substance of reply, since I can't think of anything to say to it, although it's a pretty cool reply, don't get me wrong...]
We have stereotypes now? Cooooool. Oops, Packer game is on... must dash. ;-P
'Cause I may sometime in the forseeable future find it inconvenient to be addicted to caffeine. *shrug*
-Mindy
Time Without Dew: 15 hours, 13 minutes
for the love of God, someone get that girl a DEW!!
On the mountaintop, "Bob" spake thusly:
You know what sucks? There's a fridgeful of it not more then ten feet away from me as I type this... it calls to me... my school is full of Pepsi machines... all stocked full with Dew... cheap... plentiful... I CAN'T STAND THIS!!
-Mindy
Time Without Dew: .2 seconds
Mindy wrote in message news:[email]...
away
STAND
DAM! Sorry about that. You really should quit now when your still young. Because once you stop growing that pop will go straight to your midsection, forming a discusting "pop belly" plus the pop will slowly eat away the enamal from your teeth, exposing nerve endings that will cause you aganising pain every time you drink something cold & sweet, but still you will keep drinking the poison because by now your hopelessly addicted... (I'm not talking about ME of course, I can quit at any time!)
On the mountaintop, "Bob" spake thusly:
Yeah, that was about my logic too... *sighs* I caved at lunch today, got myself a 20 oz, not only going against my "no caffeine" verdict but also blowing my lunch budget. So no food for me tomorrow, and no soda either, damn it! *mutters something about her lack of willpower, glares menacingly at the fridge*
-Mindy
In article , "Bob" wrote:
I wouldn't try giving up the caffiene cold turkey, but good luck. I never could,(now swears on the Daria Diaries) I've had my morning coffee every day since age 6 or 7, a can of soda after work or school, and at least another can at dinner, and sometimes more, if I tried to give it up I'd have to be detoxed, as it is a permanent part of my blood stream:-)
<Nitpick mode on>
I think you mean "Pinch Sitter"
<Nitpick mode off>
A.J.
wrote in message news:7th8bn$kv$[email]...
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Yep, that's about how long I've been drinking coffee (one of my earliest memories is of blowing on my coffee to cool it, and blowing the contents of an ashtray into it) I'm hopelessly addicted, and don't try to quit much anymore.
OOPS! Busted!
Bob wrote:
That's ok Bob, there was that long stretch I had here on this ng where, for the life of me, I couldn't get straight who Jesse was. But I knew one of the 3 J's was Jamie, so that should kinda make up for it. Poor boy, he gets his name wrong so much... (pleading case..."Besides, I know who Jesse is now!")
Diane
In article , [email] wrote:
In response Jesse has prepared a statement:
Jesse: (clears his throat, and looks at his notes) Cool.
What did you expect, the Gettysburg Address?
A.J.
In article , "Bob" wrote:
I wouldn't try giving up the caffiene cold turkey, but good luck. I never could,(now swears on the Daria Diaries) I've had my morning coffee every day since age 6 or 7, a can of soda after work or school, and at least another can at dinner, and sometimes more, if I tried to give it up I'd have to be detoxed, as it is a permanent part of my blood stream:-)
<Nitpick mode on>
I think you mean "Pinch Sitter"
<Nitpick mode off>
A.J.
On 05 Oct 1999 21:10:23 GMT, [email] (Dagny Scott) wrote:
You also tend to take Canada for granted when you can be there in about 30 minutes from where you live. :-) (For the record, to those who don't know, I live in Detroit, Michigan, and Windsor, Ontario is just a short bridge or tunnel drive away. The Detroit/Windsor border is, IIRC, one of the most heavily travelled and easily crossed borders in the United States.)
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Dagny
http://members.aol.com/Eccles9697
"And the people bowed and prayed to the neon god they made... and the sign said the words of the prophets are written on the subway walls and tenement halls and whispered in the sounds of silence" Paul Simon
On the mountaintop, "Martin Sylvester" spake thusly:
*grins* Thank you for the compliment, although maybe it's good to be a stereotypical something... stereotypical nonstereotype? Forgive me, I haven't had any caffeine today, trying to give it up... (and am quite surprised I can even type straight)
You're welcome. Thanks for your thanks. *grins*
-Mindy Ow... my head...
Hours Without Dew: 9
In article ,
spake thusly:
question:
"Canada's in
Hey, at least you're not like this girl I knew in high school who wanted to go to the UK so she could "see the whales".
Tice Rust wrote:
And then there's the girl I knew in high school who could not figure out for the life of her where the United Kingdom was. She seriously had not a clue.
Did I mention that I was stuck with her for a geography partner for a few months?
--J.
Jessica L. wrote in message news:[email]...
Until you led her off somewhere and she couldn't find here way back?
Mindy of Hell Enterprises writes:
It's the bit to the left of England, that lump that sticks out. If you view a map of Britain as being a picture of a gnarled old man riding a pig, then the pig's head is Wales (and it's trotter is Cornwall, which is one of those counties that is a bit like Wales in some ways in that they used to have their own language and never quite came to terms with being made lumped in with England).
-Shez.
Shez wrote in message news:SS5$[email]...
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I always thought the map of England looks like a bunny rabbit. In which case Wales is the cotton tail.
On the mountaintop, Shez spake thusly:
All right, now you're purposely trying to confuzzle me. No fair.
-Mindy
"Daria, you're giving me a headache!!" -Quinn Morgendorffer, "Daria"
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On Mon, 04 Oct 99 00:16:36 GMT, [email] (Mindy) wrote:
It was the eastern conference of the NHL before they renamed them all, the western conference being known as the Campbell conference.
Kyle
He complained when I hit him. All my friends do. Wusses.
i hate dolphins. they aren't remotely cute. and i bet the only reason they aren't covered in shit like pigs are, is because they live in the sea and the water washes it off.
hahahaha, "characters"? i found them completely unbelievable. you have all these *good* poor people and these *bad* rich people, but there are two or three *good* rich people, and one of the *good* poor people runs off with one of the *good* rich people, but then there's this horrible tragedy and the *good* poor bloke dies. they might as well have given them black and white hats, to make it even easier for the idiotic hordes of Leonardo di caprio fans to distinguish between the *good* people and the *bad* people.
On Sun, 3 Oct 1999 18:22:35 +0100, "Martin Sylvester" wrote:
And where do all those small islands that are still under British control fit in?
Matthias Benkmann wrote in message news:[email]...
None of them are part of the UK: they are Crown Dependencies (like the Channel Islands) or British Dependent Territories (like Anguilla, Bermuda, etc.), with their own legislatures. There are also the sovereign states of the Commonwealth, some of which are realms of HM Queen Elizabeth II.
I won't type out a full list unless anyone *really* wants to know!
South Africa was only invited to rejoin the Commonwealth after the multi-racial election of 1994.
Martin.
"Martin Sylvester" wrote:
So Scotland made Britain Great, and Northen Ireland made it a United Kingdom? Talk about an ironic country. ;-)
rich.
Quinn: People are so weird!
Daria: Some are weird. Some are just astonishingly self-centered and deceitful.
yes... lol.. the french have a word for "english." :) "je suis anglais"... i think.
no.. lol.
that's in the case of age... "i have x years."
yes. :)
On Sat, 2 Oct 1999 14:32:26 +0100, Shez wrote:
Origin of the sun. "Hon" means origin. I think the reason for this name is that they did not know any country to the east of Japan and so they thought they were the first to see the sun every morning. MSB
[email] wrote:
what do i get out of taking french a level? a french a level. :) languages can be very useful.
i have no idea what that means... lol. "i will <something> you"..?
We have like 5 German exchange students in my class, which is a small class of about 20. We have stories we read and all of our like "und wascht... err... wachst" and stuff and then Frau calls on like Anastasia and she finishes before we're through 2 words.
Dagny
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"And the people bowed and prayed to the neon god they made... and the sign said the words of the prophets are written on the subway walls and tenement halls and whispered in the sounds of silence" Paul Simon
irritating, isn't it? :) the french girl in my class isn't an exchange student, she moved here two years ago. horrifyingly intellent girl.
Well, Anastasia first learned Russian, then German, then English, so she's pretty horrifyingly intelligent. She's also the only one that reads substantial numbers of books. Frau is incredibly annoyed that Sebastian and the one Stephanie do not know anything really about German literature, even though they're German. The rest of our class is also very annoyed that when we struggle with something she'll go "Well, does that sound right, Sebastian? If Sebastian says it's right..." Grr.
Dagny
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"And the people bowed and prayed to the neon god they made... and the sign said the words of the prophets are written on the subway walls and tenement halls and whispered in the sounds of silence" Paul Simon
Dagny Scott wrote in message news:[email]...
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Well actually Dagny, I consider you to be quite intelligent. I'd be hesitant to apply "horrifyingly" in any case though. Is intelligence ever horrifying?
Learning languages is, I suppose, probably not all that remarkable when it's a response to a peripatetic existence. The thing about us in the U.S. is that just about everywhere you go people speak English, or aspire to. There are pockets where you'll have some communications problems but in the U.S. you can generally get by with only English. There's just no urgency to learn other languages. And few knowledgable teachers.
Intelligence by itself is never horrifying, but couple it with an appropriate catalyst like racism or overweening ambition and things can get pretty horrifying.
DJ
R. K. Henry wrote:
I agree wholeheartedly here. Dagny, you're more clued in than I am and you're younger than me. That should say something, shouldn't it?
Well, in my case I was kinda forced to learn Spanish by reasoning that a number of my relatives didn't know English but instead were pure Spanish speakers (still have relatives in Mexico), and a number of other relatives that I have didn't know how to carry on well with English but instead in an English/Spanish mixture. And that's the case with a lot of people that I know of. So it is kinda vitally important to know Spanish in this area of the country. (That and bilingual operators at work earn up to $14/hour...not bad for taking phone orders, no?)
I also know that I had a wonderful Spanish teacher for my last two years of Spanish...Ms. Heilner. She was as strict as they come, but she was also very thorough, and she was born and raised in Colombia so even though she spoke English with a very thick accent (I could do an impersonation of her as she was my homeroom teacher sophomore/junior year) she was *wonderful* with Spanish.
Diane
On 02 Oct 1999 11:56:29 GMT, some letters randomly coalesced from individual pixels, claiming to be from [email] (Dagny Scott), and it said:
Yeah, I hate smart people. Damn those smart people. Hey, wait a minuite...
;p
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people
Forgive me if I've mentioned this here before, but did you ever hear of that school that having decided to have an image makeover, left one of the staff to come up with a Latin motto?
He disn't know Latin, but decided that "I hear, I see, I learn" would be good, so asked a college student to translate it into Latin and fax it to the school secretary, who'd been told to pass it on to the signmakers (for the sign above the new building) and the stationers.
Firsat day back after the summer holidays, he saw a crowd of excited kids gathered round the entrance of thenew building, which, like all the school's stationery, now bore in big lettering the new school motto: AUDIO VIDEO DISCO.
If it isn't true, it ought to be!
Martin.
On Sun, 3 Oct 1999 18:16:43 +0100, "Martin Sylvester" wrote:
That was a good one. Thanks! MSB
Matthias Benkmann wrote in message news:[email]...
You're welcome!
Martin.
Lady Interference said:
What dropped out of Latin on its way to becoming French, Spanish, and Italian were the complex conjugations and declensions. I don't know very much Spanish, but I know some French, and the successor Romance tongues handle their verbs and nouns a lot easier.
Sincerely Yours, Jordan
"Man, as we know him, is a poor creature; but he is halfway between an ape and a god and he is travelling in the right direction." (Dean William R. Inge)
didn't you like grow up with it? that tends to make it easy.
the other way Spanish differs from Latin, of course, is Arabic influences on the vocabulary...
Dagny
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"And the people bowed and prayed to the neon god they made... and the sign said the words of the prophets are written on the subway walls and tenement halls and whispered in the sounds of silence" Paul Simon
R. K. Henry said:
I know a 15 year-old girl in California who writes playlets in Latin, for fun.
Sincerely Yours, Jordan
"Man, as we know him, is a poor creature; but he is halfway between an ape and a god and he is travelling in the right direction." (Dean William R. Inge)
In article ,
Seems as good a place as any to jump in...
Anyone seen this piece of Roman graffiti?
R O T A S O P E R A T E N E T A R E P O S A T O R
I forget what it means, but it's something about a farmer sowing seed, I think.
On the mountaintop, Bear spake thusly:
I have. It was on a poster I once owned, along with some other bizarre things.... anyone know what tetragrammaton is supposed to mean?
-Mindy the Ever-Clueless
On Thu, 30 Sep 1999 17:35:26 -0400, "R. K. Henry" wrote:
The language you mean is Leek aka Gratin.
My favourite examples: Cunnilingus and Fellatio. I hope that at least some of you don't know what those 2 mean. Otherwise I'd feel pretty stupid since I learned them just a few months ago. I read the words in a statistic on sexual practices. No, I don't read Playboy(the pictures are crap), this stuff is found in the German equivalent to Newsweek. Well, I asked my mom what practices the terms were referring to. I was kinda surprised that she could tell me without much thinking. Hey, I'd really like to know what your moms have to say to that question. Please find out. MSB
heh, cool. ;)
even i know what they mean. wow, i know something. i know what they're like as well. ;)
my mum would say, "errr, your dad will explain." my dad would give a very graphic and unnecessarily detailed description. that is, if they didn't know i knew very well for myself.
If even people from extinct cultures are Daria fans then she's doing remarkably well! Maybe someone could post in Babylonian next? I recall someone translated "Blue suede shoes" into Babylonian, or was it Sumerian?
-Shez.
There's definately a Latin version. Some mad Finnish proffessor released an album of covers of Elvis songs in Latin, and it was number 1 in Italy and Scandinavia, I think. My old latin teacher played it in class, it was ehmm... interesting.
On the mountaintop, "R. K. Henry" spake thusly: <snip!>
*grins* You're welcome. It probably won't happen again, at least not until I get my Latin books back from Ward. I had to get my photocopied Latin-to-English sheets and write it from there, otherwise I'd have written a lot more. :)
Yeah! Anyone up for figuring out how to say "Daria is very cool" in Swahili?
-Mindy Moha, mbili, tatu, nne, tano...
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Swahili?
Umm... I'm appalling at latin, but I can try in that...
Quamquam Kevin Brittanique caudes sunt, et soror Dariae bellam est, Daria ipsa vincabit semper nam callidus habet.
I agree, but it annoys me when GLOBALPARI asks if anyone can speak french and then doesn't reply when we ask why, even in French. Maybe this individual is waiting, but when you start a thread for the express purpose of finding out if anyone speaks French, shouldn't you say something in reply? No calls for the internet police here, but hey...
LOL. However, it may safely be said, I think, that Tracy Grandstaff's talents and characterizations were and *are* quite key to the development of the series. We don't know much about Tracy except her involvement with B & B, but it is undeniable that she is a native english speaker. Maybe there is a sort of unwritten assumption that Daria fans have a common language in English.
Sincerely, Rev. Paul L. Vasquez
wow... that's more than i could do after a year of french, unless all it said was, "my name is mindy. i am 15 years old. i like to play basketball. i have a tortoise and 22 brothers and 38 sisters. for breakfast i eat toast with jam."
Which wouldn't get you very many marks, since your name is Alli and you're 16.
You eat breakfast now?
-Shez.
i meant unless that was what mindy's thing said. i could have said my name was mindy and that i was 15 after one year of french, that's what i meant. :)
1) we hadn't done past tense in year 7; 2) that's to say something you do routinely. "when i eat breakfast, i eat toast with jam," or whatever.
On the mountaintop, [email] spake thusly:
*laughs* No, not quite... I'm not sure how to say fifteen, basketball, tortoise, toast, jam, or sister in Latin... *laughs* That, and that I don't like basketball, I'm fourteen, and an only child... although I *did* at one time have a pet turtle. That's like a tortoise, right?
-Mindy In irrelevance we trust, all else comes last
"Would you mind pointing those things in another direction?" -Daria Morgendorffer, "Daria"
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GLOBALPARI wrote:
No, pero puedo hablar en espanol si quiere Ud...es porque solamente soy una Americana, hombre (claro que si...?). ;)
Diane
The illustrious H. E. L wrote:
Donde esta la biblioteka? Una cervesa, pro favor. No comprende!
-all the spanish I remeber after taking 4 years of Spanish in High School.
Hallucinating Elvis Lady escribi�:
S�. Yo no soy tampoco canadiense. ;-{)>
MIKE (a.k.a. "Progbear")
make GEORYN disappear to reply
"I don't do emotions. I just sing notes." --Wendy Smith
N.P.:"Le Cinqui�me"- S h y l o c k / G i a l o r g u e s
In article , [email] (Belontia Signata)
hee hee Your new alias makes me think of balogna. Or baloney. (I think that is one of the dumbest spelled words ever)
cheryl (who is in the middle of figuring the secrets of the universe)
On Mon, 27 Sep 1999 21:28:23 -0500, Hallucinating Elvis Lady wrote:
Babelfish tells me you're saying: No, but I can speak in espanol if You love... you are because I am only an American, man (clear that if...)
I especially like the "you are because I am" part.
And here's what I get when I translate it into German and then back to English:
No., but I can speak in espanol, if them... They are, because I am only one American, the man love (freely that, if...)
Please note, that the "No." is for "number". MSB
Matthias Benkmann wrote:
That's because it should have read:
"No, pero puedo hablar en espa�ol, si Ud. quiere...es porque solamente soy una Americana, hombre (�claro que s�?)" If you don't insert those diacriticals, Babelfish spews garbage (like "espanol"). And even then, it's not infallible (i.e.: it's only occasionally that the verb "querer" means "to love". Usually those instances occur in Mexican soap-operas. ;-{)> )
MIKE (a.k.a. "Progbear")
make GEORYN disappear to reply
"Siento que debemos saber para el sue�o de qui�n brillar� esta luz o consagrar una propia estrella" --Alberto Felici
N.P.:"Segunda Inspiraci�n"- M I A / T r a n s p a r e n c i a s
I've noticed it translated "weiss" always as white, when it can be "know". So Ich weiss nicht, instead of "I know not" is "I white not" it's pretty weird. It also translates "dada" quite literally as hobby-horse from the French when it is just as often used to refer to the Art movement. Dadaists find this amusing. Dadaists find a lot of things amusing. Dadaists are amusing. They're marketing Dada. I'm frightened.
Dagny
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"And the people bowed and prayed to the neon god they made... and the sign said the words of the prophets are written on the subway walls and tenement halls and whispered in the sounds of silence" Paul Simon
Who're marketing Dada? Do the shops sell chocolate grinders now?
I hear there's huge controversy in New York at the moment about the Sensations exhibition that has finally made it across the water from the UK. I didn't know you didn't already have art like that in the US. The legacy of dada is alive and well I think.
I've never really understood the interest for & against Damien Hurst's animals, pickled in tanks of formaldehyde. It's just a new form of taxidermy. As to whether preserving animals by stuffing them or pickling them is an art or a craft though is a moot point, once might be conceptual art, but after a hundred times it might be more appropriate just to open a shop somewhere and sell them floating sheep and sharks as a commodity rather than exhibit them as art.
Similarly the guy who decorates his paintings with varnished elephant dung, Chris Ophili I think? (sp?). The pictures are ok, but I think the dung is just there as a hook for the critics - either they love it as an expression of African ethnicity, or dismiss it as silly, or in the case of the mayor of New York they hate it as some kind of sacrilege (though I must admit this view is a new one on me, no-one said that when the paintings were exhibited in London).
-Shez.
They're selling these weird Dada boxes with words and stuff that use O.J. Simpson and Bill Clinton as examples that we're living in a surrealist time. I thought it was weird.
Dagny
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"And the people bowed and prayed to the neon god they made... and the sign said the words of the prophets are written on the subway walls and tenement halls and whispered in the sounds of silence" Paul Simon
Dagny Scott said:
It is kinda weird that they're selling these boxes. It's even weirder that Simpson and Clinton are real people, with these actual life histories. It's not the sort of thing you'd expect to encounter, save in a really black comedy.
Sincerely Yours, Jordan
"Man, as we know him, is a poor creature; but he is halfway between an ape and a god and he is travelling in the right direction." (Dean William R. Inge)
Dagny Scott wrote:
Not only that, it seems Babelfish has a problem (or used to, it's been a
while...maybe they fixed the problem) with the word "window". It couldn't
translate the word "window" to any other language, yet when I plugged in words
like "ventana" or "Fenster", it had no trouble translating it back to English
as "window".
Incidentally, the Spanish verb generally used for "to love" is "amar".
"Querer" generally means "to want", but "Te quiero" really means "I love you."MIKE (a.k.a. "Progbear")
make GEORYN disappear to reply
"'Thin Thighs For Your Man.' But I don't *like* men with thin thighs" --Daria
N.P.:"The Inner Fight"- I n e s / H u n t i n g T h e F o x
In article , [email] (Belontia Signata) wrote:
Baloney!
cheryl
In article , [email] (Dagny Scott) wrote:
The name of the art movement, "Dada", was chosen randomly from a dictionary. Which was the whole point.
Is it dada, or faux-dada? Or post-faux-dada?
I know. It's still odd to translate a page that says "hobby-horse" each time. "Tristan Tzara was leader of the hobby-horse movement". Some site has a link to that saying "Dada is not a hobby-horse"
Dagny
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"And the people bowed and prayed to the neon god they made... and the sign said the words of the prophets are written on the subway walls and tenement halls and whispered in the sounds of silence" Paul Simon
what's a hobby-horse anyhow?
It's one of those toy horses that children canter about with, basically a pole with a horse's head at one end and a pair of wheels at the other.
-Shez.
oh yeah, i remember now, i had one of those when i was about two..
I think they were the forerunner of the horseless bicycle.
-Shez.
On 27 Sep 1999 09:58:45 GMT, [email] (GLOBALPARI) wrote:
Quelqun speaks French? Why, that's perfect. I suggest you two get together then :-) MSB
p.s. Tschuldigung, war nicht boese gemeint. Wir sind halt einfach ein Haufen Zyniker.
I hope we haven't scared you away.