clue me in!!!

Ok, ok. I need you guy's help. I missed the beginning of "the Lost Girls" Can someone clue me in on why Val was at their school? Thanks!!!

-Sunday-

"I dont have low self-esteem. Its a mistake. I have low-esteem for everyone else." - Daria

Daria wrote some essay on teena angst and Mr. O'Niell(or whatever his name is) submitted it for her in a Val contest.

The prize was to spend the day with the most self-asorbed poser on the planet. But, since Quinn doesn't know Daria's alive(or tries not to), they'd have the winner meet Val of Val ~Gloria "Eagles may soar but weasals don't get sucked into jet engines."

http://www.geocities.com/Hollywood/Theater/4677/page1.html

Yahoo! Pager: gloriangel AOL IM(obviously): Alkiperson

The fact that you watched the rest of the show , and didn't fully comprehend the premise, shows how flaky it was and how is was not discussed once the YM want-to-be, known as Val was introduced. However, it was still a great epi.

<snip>

Um, I was thinking about this while I watched the ep, and couldn't Daria persue legal action against Mr. O'Neill if she really wanted to, for his submission and subsequent exhibition of her work without her consent? Or have I been listening to my lawyer wannabe friend too long?

-Mindy

Mindy said:

Probably. But she wouldn't want to; among other things O'Neill is one of her favorite (or least hated) teachers. It was arrogant of O'Neill to submit her work without her consent, but appropriate behavior for a well-meaning but clueless type such as himself.

Sincerely Yours, Jordan

What makes you think that? I'd think she'd have reason for him to be one of her most hated teachers, even though (or because) she likes the subject.

Dagny misery chick, cynic, general loony

Visit the Parsley Firefly http://members.aol.com/Eccles9697

"Depicting people as they really are and not how they see themselves made Goya famous. It just gives me something to do during math." Jane Lane

Dagny said:

We see her responding to him more in class than to other teachers. Furthermore, he likes her, and students rarely *hate* teachers who like them. He doesn't completely understand his subject (he misses the hard cynical edge of some literature, blinded as he is by PC), but at least he honestly tries, and that's something Daria would respect. She probably pities him, but I can't see her really hating him, for his conventional-minded weakness and bumbling nature.

The only teacher Daria has whom she might like more would be her art teacher (forget the name at the moment). Though art's really more Jane's special subject.

Sincerely Yours, Jordan

On 1 Apr 1999 03:59:21 GMT, [email] (JBassior) wrote:

Ms. Claire Defoe. Her freeloading ex-college roommates might have other names for her we don't know about. :-)

Martin (to send E-mail, remove the "nospam" from my E-mail address) ---- Quinn: "When they got nervous, they'd drink cocoa." Helen: "Now, sweetie, there's nothing to worry about." (door slams) "Looters!" ---- Outpost Daria: Your Online Database for All Things Daria! http://systech.simplenet.com/daria/

Not necessarily true. Mr O'Neill's annoyingness, perkiness, and upbeatness are enough to drive her insane, not to mention what he does to a subject she more than likely cares more about than history or science or economics. Besides, I think she's the favorite of most her teachers. Mr DeMartino, even though he yelled "Stop showing off!" in "Esteemsters" looks for her to give a rational answer which is better than Kevin and Brittany's mindless babbling.

Dagny misery chick, cynic, general loony

Visit the Parsley Firefly http://members.aol.com/Eccles9697

"Depicting people as they really are and not how they see themselves made Goya famous. It just gives me something to do during math." Jane Lane

Dagny pointed out:

You have a point there. His "upbeat" attitude is precisely where he goes wrong in his interpretation of literature too ... much of great literature is about tragic choices.

On the other hand, Daria finds overly cheerful people annoying, she doesn't usually hate them. She doesn't hate Brittany, for example. She reserves hatred for the actively malevolent, not the absurdly misguided.

There's a big difference between being annoyed at someone hugging you, and outright hating them.

Probably. Any good teacher would value a student like Daria.

True. And DeMartino doesn't know her that well in "Esteemsters", that was her first day in class.

Sincerely Yours, Jordan

In article ,

So true. Fashion Club, meet Ms. Li, Ms. Li, meet the Fashion Club.

(To me Ms. Li has gone way beyond the point of being "absurdly misguided" in her quest for glory. She's now quite the villainous sort.)

Not to mention any principal worth their salt. I think Daria would find it much easier dealing with an administrator who isn't just out for their own glory, at the expense of the students.

DeMartino rocks. I do like Mr. O'Neill, yes, but there's one thing about him I absolutely can't stand, and that's the way he deals with the Kevins and Brittanys in the class. He asks them things, then tries to rationalize their inability to respond, and then lays the responsibility of explaining what he's asked on Daria. She's probably delighted to get the chance to do what she's good at, but it must feel weird to her knowing that she's only being asked to do this after O'Neill's failed experiments to elicit sensical responses from Kevin and/or Brittany. Don't know, just my opinion....

deena lissa who was the Daria of her Chem I class (picking up the slack for a lot of the students in my class)

"Let's kill the NME! Yes! And the Melody Maker too! Strangle 'em both!" Jane: Dear Daria, Lousy Traitor. Daria: Dear Jane, I know what you are, but what am I?

I'd think Daria would be in it more for the principle, assuming she'd do something like that to someone who only meant well in the first place. Or course, that's only my $0.02.

-Mindy, who can't believe she's actually *talking* to Q�0.

In article , [email] (Q�0) wrote: <insane snipping via garden shears, muahaha!>

In ANC, the litigation threat was more defensive as a reaction to the threat of vandalism charges, IMHO. I think the "Lawsuit." thing was just Daria not wanting to be hugged by a teacher, and who can really blame her? Heaven knows that if one of my male teachers tried to hug me, I'd want them the hell off me.

Nah. O'Neill means well, and even if he *was* thrown out on his ass he'd probably just get a job as a school counselor Someplace Else.

<Deadpan> I am a troll. This post is my bridge. To read on further will require payment of three goats, lightly toasted. -Grul, er, Mindy.

[email] (Mindy) wrote: <whack>

FYI on dealing with goats. We don't do anything by half measures. If we're gonna get toasted, it's crispy thru-n-thru or not at all. ;)

Jon Armstrong The Space Ranger

Explains why we're so grumpy upon awakening.

In article , [email] wrote:

Is there a duck in here? (Sorry.)

Damn it! I'll just have to be eating one raw then... <looks Jon up and down> You'll do nicely... <laughs evilly and goes under her bridge to sharpen her steak knives>

-Grul, I mean, Mindy (Damn it, I did it *again!*)

Not on this farm.

Whoo-boy! It's clear you haven't read the latest Food&Drug Admin. report on the dangers of eating raw goat. Exerpt follows.

  "The consumtion of raw goat should never be attempted. Raw goat is
not only tough and stringy, it provides none of the recommended daily
allowances of any vitamins or minerals and is actually harmful to
most carbon based lifeforms.
   Eating raw goat is illegal in most states and the majority of
civilized countries. There is no actual penality for eating raw
goat as what happens to the digestive tract is considered punishment
enough.
   Eating raw goat is considered immoral by most right-thinking
people and the majority of religions have banned it's practice.
   Eating raw goat causes acne, body odor, dandruff, shortness
of breath, halitosis, and other conditions that will drive away
your friends and family. Raw goat flesh contains parasites and
other chemicals that cause you to act real funny at parties and
not remember what happened the next day.
   Eating raw goat will get you talked about.
   In closing, eating raw goat is illegal, immoral, addicting,
and fattening and should never be attempted even in months with-
out a 'r' in them."

hope this helps.

Jon Armstrong The Space Ranger Graveyard gives one a unique outlook on life. A dark one.

[email] wrote in message ...

So *that's* what caused it.

But wait -- I don't remember eating raw goat.

But then I wouldn't. It causes memory loss, too.

Martin.

On Wed, 31 Mar 99 23:59:11 GMT, some letters randomly coalesced from individual pixels, claiming to be from [email] (Mindy), and it said:

LOL! This has actually been an interesting discussion.

Jodie: See what happeans when you give people a chance?

<sigh> What I *meant* by that was I couldn't believe you were being civil to me and vice versa for long enough to have an ordinary conversation on Daria. (On atd, think of *that!* <g>) I really don't care whether or not I fight with you, Q-ball. To quote the song, I don't know you and I probably don't want to.

-Mindy

On the mountaintop, [email] (Q�0) spake thusly:

I always try to snip out my own posts in replies. If I did any snipping, it's got nothing to do with the content. Since when do I take responsibility for anything? <g> You must have been talking to my evil twin. Responsibility's for grown-ups, after all.

Actually, you're right. I can't stand that song; it's a paraphrased Eve 6. And notice I didn't alter your post in any way despite the glaring typo which is making me wince as we speak. I guess I'm improving myself as we speak, huh?

-Mindy

In article , [email] (Q�0) wrote: <snip><snip><snip><snip>

Yes, Almighty Lord and God.

<snip><snip><snip><snip>

You're not the first to discover that.

Yes. I am feling so much shame for having offended His/Her Royal Highness that I think I'm going to crawl under my bridge and die. Hopefully that shalt appease thee, O Almighty.

-Mindy (Since His Almighty Self is offended that I snip, I'm going to leave the rest of the bandwidth-wasting post here.)

But I'm not leaving it.

Mindy, why not join me in the "From Now On Let's Ignore Q--" Club? It's much better than endlessly replying to a gutless puke who doesn't post his/her/its e-mail address so that anyone who is offended by his garbage can take the discussion out of the newsgroup and into private e-mail, where it really belongs.

In article , [email] wrote:

You're a day or so late in that suggestion. Too bad; I hate to do so because once in a while, *everyone* says something worthwhile. Oh well.

-Mindy

On Thu, 01 Apr 1999 11:52:39 -0800, some letters randomly coalesced from individual pixels, claiming to be from [email] (Q�0), and it said:

<sigh> And he almost participated in a civilized discussion.

Daria: See what happenes when you give people a chance? >:(

On Fri, 02 Apr 1999 10:10:16 -0800, some letters randomly coalesced from individual pixels, claiming to be from [email] (Q�0), and it said:

It is my opinion that nobody here has snipped text in such a way as to mislead people. It is my practice to snip enough so that people can either see the sentance to which I am responding, or, if I am responding to an entire paragraph, to snip most of the post altogether, leaving enough to that people can tell which message I am responding to (the only purpose to this being that, occasionally, the messages get a little jumbled up, and the threads aren't sorted right). It is my opinion that you have severly overreacted here.

Aww poor little Q! Mom she's picking on me!

No, wait a minute, she's using humour in the style of Jane and your just too thick to get it Q.

Bettster

Q�0 wrote in message ...

the

crap,

too

Q�0 wrote in message ...

too

Hey it works for you!

Pseudocode for QthingyO:

Randomly insult ATD poster Poster flames Qthingy. Qthingy claims his humour is just like Daria and yet the entire group can't see it and thus must be thick.

So if it works for you then I can adopt this method too, I hearby declare that no one has ever attacked you, they're just writing in the style of Jane, and if you can't see that your a thicky gimp and you can't argue with my logic because I'm right because I say I am so there.

Also following on from your example you can't argue that I'm wrong about the writing style because I know more about the entire Daria universe than anyone else because I've been in this group since the galaxy was 1 millisecond old and I'll prove it for only $100.

Hmmm, hope I didn't miss out any bits on how to act like a git ^k^k^k^k^k Qthingy.

Q�0 wrote in message ...

ok

Your claim is this i take it.. "Mindy was being deliberately misleading by editing her post in the way she did"

Go ahead prove it

<Space left for Q`s proof>...................Please show all working

<************************>

I fail to see what you're so annoyed about. She cut out her "quote". So fucking what? You knew what it said. She knew what it said. Most people knew what it said. Mindy's no idiot (not even by your standards <lol>) and I don't doubt for one minute that she'd think she was going to convince anyone she was "right" just by snipping a (pretty irrelevant, really) little piece of text. Just because you always have to show that you're in the right doesn't give you the right to assume that the same is true of everyone else.

Maybe that's because there is no way to prove that someone intended something when they did something.

Q�0 wrote in message ...

nope I asked for clarification . I could read the posts...but couldn`t read all the possible complex, interpretations I was just checking we were talking about the same thread / newsgroup / universe ect and that your "focus" hadn`t suddenly switched to some other thing

So Mindys comments were not "inflamatory" in the normal sense of the word but still constituted a "flame"?

or flame and inflamatory have the same meaning, and Mindy's words were neither?

or flame and inflamatory have the same meaning, and Mindy's words were both?

All this ambiguity is not helping your "proof", you know i`m trying to help you here btw

She edited a reply to one of your posts?

We are still talking about the newsgroup, right?

The newserver wouldn`t accept any reply to the message I can`t tell you which message it is cos.. it has no identifier number...like all your other messages.. You can`t be too carefull when you are talking about cartoons, i guess

My newserver wouldn`t accept any reply to the message I can`t tell you which message it is cos.. it has no identifier number...like all your other messages.. You can`t be too carefull when you are talking about cartoons, i guess

<sigh> And you say *we* "don't get it", take things out of context, etc...

Q�0 wrote in message ...

Amazing You just did the same thing to me that you claim Mindy did to you No doubt you will claim it was intentional sheeez

So why did you edit the context here...was it in an attempt to make my comments look less funny?.................... hey?............ hey?

pretty bloody low behaviour lol

Now come on, even you can do better than that.

I don't know why I bother, I keep trying to get you to participate in a decent argument, as you seem so adamant that we're all so stupid and that we're all such liars and that everyone's out to get you, but you keep avoiding any accusations we throw at you. You're not even funny, you keep trying to act intelligent so we won't notice you're an idiot. At least normal trolls are funny sometimes, because some of the things they say are *really* stupid, but you just deny your stupidity, pretending you possess something resembling a glimmer of intelligence. If you actually were intelligent, you might back up your claims a little, and then we could actually have some fun arguing with you <g>, but no, you have to be really boring all the time.

You're a shit troll. You have no fucking balls. You're the worst troll I have ever seen, and I've seen a lot of trolls. Oh, I'm sorry, you're not a troll, are you? Well, take it to e-mail, unless of course you don't have the guts to reveal your address for fear that someone will complain to your ISP. You don't even have the nerve to let your posts show up on Dejanews, because then someone might do a search on you, and find out what a loser you actually are and how much shit you've posted. Unless of course you use a different three-letter alias on each newsgroup you make a pathetic attempt at trolling. You don't even argue properly. You're fucking gutless as well as boring.

Like, nice one. Yeah, that really showed me, didn't it? I'm sorry Q, maybe you aren't a total wuss after all. And I guess you don't run away from accusations like the pathetic little boy you are. Yep, you're real good at standing your ground, you are.

In article , "endless, nameless" wrote:

Thanks. Now toddle along, young lady.

- Q�0

P.S. Consider changing your name to "endless, pointless".

Yep, you're really proving yourself now, aren't you? You know you don't stand a chance in an argument with me (or Paul, for that matter) so you avoid the accusations and questions, and hope someone assumes that's because you're above it all. That's odd, because you're always acting like you're after a battle of wits, odd how whenever anyone challenges you, you try to pretend you're smarter than them without giving any actual evidence to show that you're not totally braindead. Well, I wonder why that could be.

Oh yeah, that's good, isn't it? Yeah, I can see the entire newsgroup laughing their arses off at that one. You must be fucking desperate if you can think of nothing better than that. I did initially think it would be a little too obvious to point out how mature you must be, making a "joke" about someone's screenname, but I doubt it'd have if I didn't mention it.

LOL, sorry, that bit should have been "I doubt it'd have occured to you if I didn't mention it." Yes, I am very tired... <g>

In article , "endless, nameless" wrote:

"Tired" wasn't the decription I was thinking of...but, okay.

- Q�0

You did it again, fuckwit. You won't even directly insult someone, you wuss.

In article , "endless, nameless" wrote:

For such a lazy person, you sure have the energy for this.

Why don't you try putting that energy into something productive and profitable?

Your concerned friend,

Q�0

Typing is really strenuous, I know... <g>

I *should* go do some Art exam preparation (as I *am* hoping to, like, pass... <g>) but swearing at idiots on usenet is much more stress-relieving, if a Hell of a lot less productive, especially when I've picked an idiot too pathetic to give a proper argument.

I know I shouldn't feed the bloody troll, but I want an argument, dammit! If there is anyone else here up for an argument*, I will happily accept. <g>

*Paul, I know, also loves arguing, but we haven't yet found an issue about which we disagree enough to have a proper argument. And believe me, we have tried.... <LOL> Erm, so we're both picking on the troll instead; pity despite his claims of intelligence, he is unable to keep a bloody argument going. ;)

<snip snip blah blah blah>

I'd be perfectly willing to have an argument with you if we could find something we hate about each other. Of course, it'd be have to be over e-mail, since there've been WAY too many argument-related posts lately (most of which are my fault, I know, but I tossed out one stupid sentence which wasn't meant to be taken as it was. It was certainly not intended to start a flame war on the newgroup I love best.) and the last thing I want to do is add to them (more). Perhaps then some of the stress would be taken off of poor Q-something-0, who must be all tuckered out.

-Mindy

Disclaimer: Since every damn thing I've said in the past has been used against me, I'm adding this disclaimer. No word in the preceeding post was meant to inspire feelings of hostility or anger in any person, dragon, monkey, plant, or any other collection of molecules. Should any negative feelings be insiped, feel free to e-mail me, as any posts will be pointedly ignored.

Hehe, alright then, yeah, if we can find a point of disagreement. :)

Makes sense...this newsgroup has become rather hostile lately. I don't think it's your fault, though, I think Q should get a sense of humour and pull his head out of his own arse. ;)

Hehehe, I think his argumentative skills must a little...well, absent.

LOL. :)

<snips a wole bunch of pointless shit> (if this upsets you, then good)

Jesus, Q, you just did it again. --- ~Po

"Don't feel bad about not feeling good." ~TME

Q�0 wrote in message ...

She edited a reply to one of your posts?

We are still talking about the newsgroup, right?

I think its pretty damn clear to annyone with a brain that you deliberatly put this comment......

"We are still talking about the newsgroup, right?"

out of context, so that it no longer remained ammusing

don`t try a wriggle out of it Q you have been caught.... People like you are the scurge of usenet

Sheesh! Is that "Q�0 " guy still here? Since I adjusted my filter to delete anything by Q�0, this newsgroup has been rather pleasant. The only clue that he's still around is the posts from those who are still responding to him. I know it's kind of like plugging your ears and sneering "Nah Nah Nah! I can't hear you, Nah Nah Nah!", but it works! (Warren crosses his wrists and turns his back on Q�0, saying "I no longer hear your words"). Pardon the star trek/N gen reference.

Q�0 wrote in message ...

ok i`ll clarify, and state it more directly......

I have NO IDEA what is going on in that doorstop you use as a brain so i asked for clarification

i dug it out of you in the end, ;-) Do i owe you one hundred dollars now?

and why did Mindy remove the comments....???

Bear in mind 1.....that they will remain in the origonal post so the action would only "fool" an idiot

2 she does not seem to withdraw comments now

what the hell are you rambling about now?

no doubt if i continue communicating with you for much longer i will become, like mindy the focus of some paranoid delusion of yours.

hey that sounds like fun :-)

Q�0 wrote in message ...

<sniped stuff...i hope this is ok with you :-)>

Is there a fact that is consistent with your theory that isn`t with mindy`s? No?

then how on earth are you going to win your bet?

that Mindy lied about how she <snip>s in

I have edited so much out of posts that nothing remains, most of the time nobody cares much Everybody involved knows what has been said, and it is all recorded

What other "proof" would you have me accept?...your word?

Huh? There was proof there, wasn't there? I don't know what happened with that, I got bored of it all. They found him innocent, didn't they? Anyway, it's irrelevant here, it's not a murder case for a start, although you're acting as if it was. But anyway, you're accusing Mindy of having intended to make herself look innocent or something, by snipping a bit of text. How do you know what she was thinking when she snipped? Are you a bloody clairvoyant?

On Mon, 05 Apr 1999 04:36:47 +0100, "endless, nameless" wrote:

No, it's a bloody twit. I'll give it one thing, though: apparently, it *is* someone who's been posting here for quite a while. As TDH (its former three-letter nickname), it's been trolling, flaming, and troublemaking for a long time, according to sources.

Martin (to send E-mail, remove the "nospam" from my E-mail address) ---- Quinn: "When they got nervous, they'd drink cocoa." Helen: "Now, sweetie, there's nothing to worry about." (door slams) "Looters!" ---- Outpost Daria: Your Online Database for All Things Daria! http://systech.simplenet.com/daria/

When was it TDH? What did TDH do, same as Q[euro-thingie]0? Errm, should I remember this? <lol> :)

On Mon, 05 Apr 1999 05:23:35 +0100, "endless, nameless" wrote:

Quite a while ago, or so I've been told. Guess it likes coming up with new three-letter acronyms after it's been gone for a while; I wonder what it'll come up with next time?

Yep, it did the same shit that it's doing now (trolling, flaming, insulting, and just outright being an arrogant twit).

You'd be much better off if you simply forgot about it (and ignored it) as quickly as you can. :-)

Martin (to send E-mail, remove the "nospam" from my E-mail address) ---- Quinn: "When they got nervous, they'd drink cocoa." Helen: "Now, sweetie, there's nothing to worry about." (door slams) "Looters!" ---- Outpost Daria: Your Online Database for All Things Daria! http://systech.simplenet.com/daria/

TDH was B.A. (before Alli). He was long gone when you made that historic post about wanting to slit your wrists but not wanting to get the bathroom carpet bloody. <g> The technique was about the same, but he'd put clever things in his address line.

-Mindy

Can you say "multiple personality disorder"? <g>

well argued Q...your evasion technique is improving "sonny" I notice that despite the invitation you managed to AVOID putting your case.. well done :-)

Have another go, though :-)

Space for Q`s list of incriminating evidence against Mindy

<************************>

I bet you do it again lol

Q�0 wrote in message ...

Nope its still on my browser

You were complaining that mindy snipped these inflamatory words "-Mindy, who can't believe she's actually *talking* to Q�0." from message [email]

I hate to think of the terrible "inflamation" that must have resulted.

I have figured it out...its amazing

I guess so....does that mean i`m clever though? I mean it wasn`t very creative...i just read the posts.

-Paul, who can't believe he's doing anything.

"Q�0" wrote:

<snipped>

You're shit at arguing, you are. You just avoid the question. You're no fun. Fuck off.

Paul's a lot smarter than you, and he doesn't have to resort to calling people stupid when he's arguing with someone.

In article , "endless, nameless" wrote:

As a general rule, people who do that indicate their own shortcomings.

What's happened to our little group? What happened to that simpler time when you could leave your doors unlocked and a candy bar cost a nickel? When Daria fans could discuss all kinds of cerebral things in this group and the only time the word "stupid" might be invoked would be to discuss Kevin Thompson, the Lawndale QB? Are those days gone forever?

Maybe some of the Daria fans are cranky from not having seen any new episodes recently.

Bob

[email] wrote in message ...

when

Daria

I wouldn't say those days are gone. They're just on hold for a while.

Now, I'm not sure what the definition of "psycho" is, but I don't think what I said was particularly psychopathic. I will freely admit to being "unstable" at best, btw. ;) But anyway, you're no good to argue with, you can't hold your end up, you just accuse others of stupidity instead of actually putting forward your "reasoning"....I suspect this may be because your sense of reason is "impaired" to say the least. Feel free to prove me wrong.

[Note the use of the word "prove" in that last sentence.]

I'm probably smarter than you and all. I'm smarter than most, at least. The one thing I'm not insecure about is my intelligence. Unfortunately, intelligence doesn't matter much for anything, being smart by itself won't get you anywhere. :/

Yes, but that's pretty irrelevant. Would you consider calling people stupid to be a good argumentative technique?

Q�0 wrote in message ...

hmmm, and I suppose that's why you have the no archive header switched on, so you can't be proved wrong. Kinda makes it a little hard to do research into you doesn't it?

It also makes me wonder what is lurking in your closet. Q's dark little secret, next on sick sad world.

I'd call it natural reaction to get mad at trolls, but you being under the bridge perhaps gives you a different perspective.

can't

Interesting how you and your buddy Tarvok are the only people in the entire group who can see your alledged humour. But of course you are the almighty one, so the fact that the majority think you are not remotely funny doesn't count.

with

Just following your logic, grasshopper.

the

Sure. Point me to an independant verifiable source and the 100 bucks is yours.

They said I should remember things that brought me happiness on ATD but I suppose Qthingy is here to stay.

Bettster

Perfect reply! You da man! Or da woman...whatever.

"Q�0" wrote:

<snipped moaning about Mindy being so out of order or whatever>

Don't you think you're taking the whole thing a little too seriously? You had an opportunity to show that you weren't some arrogant twat who gets upset whenever anyone says something that could possibly be considered offensive, and you didn't take it. If you hadn't started on about Mindy trolling and had instead posted something funny or something, people might have actually gained some respect for you.

There are more than 3 people reading this group, you know.

And why bother always trying prove that you're right and everyone is wrong or lying or stupid, if you aren't bothered about respect? It seems pretty obvious to me that you are desperate for people to respect you, even if you deny it to yourself and everyone else. If you know you're right and you don't care what everyone else thinks, why are you so desperate to prove it to us all? You could let it go, but you don't. You have to show everyone that you are right and whoever you're arguing with is wrong. Maybe you *are* right, but if you know that and you don't need respect from us, why don't you just leave it and let us think you're wrong?

Q�0 wrote in message ...

Lying??????
where?

What rubbish.. There is no issue of "fact" here people are simply calling you an idiot...you can`t prove them wrong by doing anything than refraining from idiocy

Q�0 wrote in message ...

Wether you are a penguin or not is an issue of fact, not opinion your idiocy, however, is a little more controversial.

You cannot prove you are not an idiot. To claim that you are arguing to "put" people right on this issue is probably either a lie or the bahaviour of an idiot

Paul gate wrote:

<snip bunch o' rubbish>

The only contribution I will make to this thread: (I guess i'm in a quoting mood today)

"Ford! You're turning into a penguin! Stop it!"

--J.

Jessica L. wrote in message ...

"God i'm glad to hear you say that..I thought i must be going mad" :-)

Nowhere, he can't prove it. I think he's just a bit paranoid LOL. :)

He'll probably claim now that he's not done anything idiotic, that we're the idiots, and that he doesn't have to prove anything because it's so obvious, but we're too idiotic to see it, LOL. :) <awaits bitchy reply from Q-0, which will no doubt appear within the next 10 minutes...> :)

endless, nameless wrote in message ...

Yes no doubt we can expect yet another "public service broadcast", shortly...Another in a series, carefully designed to guide and educate the stupid lol The fact that he is actualy talking about "guiding" people from the view that he is a prat...seems amazingly to escape him ....he cliams there is some other "issue" at stake lol

Q�0 wrote in message ...

Alli said nothing about herself, here. She made predictions about YOUR position which were correct..(you seem to agree btw) I don`t think congratulations are due fo her predictions, though

Yeah, right. So Mindy's been <gasp!> lying. What're you gonna do, then? Hang her? Beat her with a wet haddock?

Umm..? I said you'd claim that. And you did. I never said you'd be right. You're not, as it happens, although you can claim I'm an idiot 'til you're blue in the face or until I post my mock GCSE results. <g>

Oh, thank you.

Hey, you're right. Maybe you do have something better to do than prat around on usenet.

Please note: I have nothing better to do than prat around on usenet. <g>

Huh? No, you claimed she was lying. That doesn't mean she *was*. I don't think she was, I think either you're a troll, or you're paranoid. <g>

Umm..?

No, because you can't really stop being a penguin, can you? Even if you are an idiot, you refrain from idiocy.

Q�0 wrote in message ...

As far as i can make out, she was remarking on being surprised that she was having a pleasant conversation with you..in what way is that provacative? You i take it have never re-evaluated a person on the basis of personal experience. Given the enourmous "meal" you have made of this piddling little issue can you really blame people for being surprised if they manage to communicate?

Pfff... Sometimes I wish DejaNews would post QueroZero's... messages (to be diplomatic). Two reasons, it buggers up the threading for one, and sometimes I like to whack Usenet hornet nests. There's something atavistic and primal about ranting in a flame post...

But mostly, I'm glad DejaNews doesn't.

Sure.

What is your problem with "stupidity" anyway? Is it right to discriminate about people on the basis of their intelligence any more than it is right to discriminate against people on the basis of their appearance or their eye colour or their height or their shoe size? Surely, more relevant is what they do with the intelligence they have.

FWIW, I will admit that I do very little with the intelligence I have. <g>

So you *do* have a sense of humour.... <g>

Huh?

So, you're annoying people.

Why don't you take it to e-mail then, instead of bothering the rest of the group? Or are you trying to humiliate the person you're arguing with?

Why? I never got the impression you were a paricularly caring person. <g> What's it to you anyway? Do you always feel the need to interfere in the lives of people you don't even know? (OK, I'll admit that's more than a little hypocritical... <g>)

On Sun, 04 Apr 1999 01:04:17 -0800, some letters randomly coalesced from individual pixels, claiming to be from [email] (Q�0), and it said:

I stand corrected.

Mindy said:

Yes, especially if she felt that Daria had been deeply offended.

I think she just said that to make him let go. Daria's uncomfortable with displays of affection.

She's not. She almost likes O'Neill. He's one of her better teachers.

Sincerely Yours, Jordan

I beg to differ. He's everything she hates: he hates anything "downbeat", which Daria sees as necessary in art. He doesn't seem to understand what he teaches, which has a greater effect on Daria, who has a connection (it seems) with literature. He, of all teachers, has complained the most about Daria's "attitude" which seems to be her main problem in school (Helen in her office saying "Tell him I'll talk to Daria about her attitude..." without hearing the call). She obviously wasn't too thrilled with the "writer writing a book about how writers should write books" silly English assignment or many of the others for that matter. She also hates him for his lack of backbone, the fact that he never is able to put up any resistance against Ms. Li (or anyone else for that matter).

Admittedly, the competition is tough, but there's a lot to hate about Mr O'Neill

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Warning: one of my long posts ahead... legalese abounds, too. ;-)

[email] (Mindy) wrote:

Your friend may have a future in chasing ambulances. ;-) No serious lawyer who wasn't strapped for cash would ever pursue such a cause of action unless actual damages could be proven-- i.e., if O'Neill submitted the work as his own and profited from it (which he didn't), or he had signed some sort of confidentiality or non-disclosure agreement with Daria (which he didn't), or if there was some sort of statutory provision that forbade teachers from showing the work of their students to others not employed by the school system (which I've never heard of.) Even though Daria did suffer through a day with Whatshername, and even though it probably was some sort of Intentional Infliction of Emotional Distress, O'Neill's not the legal cause of her pain--- Whatshername is, and even then, it's beyond being a stretch to sue someone just for being annoying. Remember, unless there are statutory damages, you've got to prove actual damages.

Granted, it is a violation of trust of a sort on his part, but that ain't enough to beat a Rule 11 Motion for Sanctions, which would almost certainly be brought against any atty bringing such a case. (And which would almost certainly be granted. Ick. Rule 11 is a nasty thing to do to opposing counsel, but if they're yahoos, well, then they deserve it...)

As for Helen's threat of a cause of action against the school in ANC, it was well-grounded in 42 USC s. 1983 (IIRC-- it's been a while since I've done civil rights work... I'm pretty sure that 42 is the right part of the US Code...) --- which is the Federal Civil Rights Statute, and it does provide for damages for those whose civil rights are violated... depending on the state, there may also be a state civil rights statute... Ms Li most definitely violated 1983, and also committed the crime of common law Larceny (tresspassory caption and asportation of the personal property of another with the intent to deprive thereof). <g> She's also vulnerable to a civil suit in state court for Conversion. (Which is lawyer-speak for theft in civil court-- where the victim sues the perp for damages.) For both suits, though, damages still have to be proved IIRC... although for a 1983 suit, I'm not too sure if there's a damages threshhold, or if there's any statutory damages provision... I doubt it... some minimal damages have to be proved, I'd bet...

Considering how Helen had Ms. Li nailed to a wall (considering Ms. Li admitted to everything-- a statement against interest with 3 witnesses would be admissible as evidence in all courts, even though it would be hearsay if entered by getting the testimony of the witnesses), I found it rather amazing that Helen *didn't* sue Ms. Li until she couldn't walk again, pantsuit notwithstanding.

Oh, and BTW, it's a "violation of civil *rights*, not liberties..." (Sorry, but that irritates me... it's the Bill of Rights, not the Bill of Liberties.)

done rambling (for now) ;-) rich.

PS Mindy-- try to dissuade your friend from doing the law thing-- it ain't what you see on TV... it's much nastier at times, and also much more boring, too. :P

P.P.S.-- This is not intended as legal advice or as a solicitation to provide legal services. No attorney-client relationship or privilege exists, nor is any intended. Should you be in a similar situation, seek your own Counsel. (Sorry, had to say that.)

Helen: Bureaucracy is the price we pay for impartiality.

Jake: Jefferson!

Helen: Stalin.