Daria Videos page updated...

... at The Irony Maiden.

I spent the first part of my day off today giving the video page a makeover, and updating some details.

All the video covers (apart from Disenfranchised, which isn't available here in the UK) are now pictured!

Martin.

"Martin Sylvester" wrote in message news:9ke5f9$cl6$[email]...

makeover,

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This question goes out to those UK or Australian Daria fans who have had a chance to either see and/or purchase the new Daria tapes that were released this spring and summer

I'm talking about the Daria tapes 'School Dysfunctions', 'Best Friends', and 'Crushed'.

Do these tapes have the song clips from the originaly aired episodes or have they substituted the song clips with some generic theme music like they did for 'Daria' and Daria - Disenfranchised?

I posted this question before and got no answer so I'm going to ask again:

Thanks in advance.

Firah

"Firah" wrote in message news:yM_a7.33383$[email]...

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I've just watched "Best Friends," and it didn't sound like the the original song clips to me. Compound Sound, Inc. are credited for music. While I'd preferred the original music track, the music on the tape was inobtrusive and appropriate.

You're welcome!

New video out tomorrow! Details on The Irony Maiden video page. 8-)

Martin.

"Martin Sylvester" wrote in message news:9kju65$usp$[email]...

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Damn!

Well I kind of figured that they would leave out the original song clips. A lot of television shows that used the popular songs of their day cannot play them because of copyright and royalties issues. (WKRP in Cincinnati, etc)

To get on another topic; I think this late 20th century copyright and royalty battle is going to hurt a lot of contemporary artists in the end.

This obsession with guarding their intellectual property so fiercely, so that they can squeeze every red cent from it, will cause most of these artists to be culturally forgotten in about a generation.

To put this in another light let me ask this question:

If no one remembers who the artist is, then who's going to buy their music? And then how will the artist make any money?

For example, do you remember all of the songs on the Looney Toons cartoons? Of course you do. Most, if not all of the songs in those cartoons were either old vaudeville tunes or the popular songs of their day.

And we still remember that music.

<NOTE: For those that says the music on a Loony Tune cartoon is not worth giving a rats hairy butt about has never really listened to the eccentric genius of Raymond Scott.>

I can't see ANY songs from today's popular artists being remembered so fondly, or as often, as the earlier songs of the 20th century.

I am not saying that an artist shouldn't get paid for their work. However, call me crazy, but letting a television show play a clip of your music, for free, seems like a small price to pay. I would see it as free advertisement which might gain the artist some type of cultural immortality.

Not to mention the fact that it might generate future revenue for the artists and their descendents further down the road.

At least until the copyrights run out and the songs are thrown into the 'public domain'.

Ah well. My dos centavos.

Thanks for the information Martin it is appreciated.

Firah

Hw�t! We have heard of the glory of "Firah" that wrote news:jegb7.39802$[email], on the day of 05 Aug 2001:

I agree with you 100% on that.

I would also like to give a shout-out to Carl W. Stalling, the musical director for the Warner Brothers cartoons, for his incredible skill at combining Scott's music, contemporary songs, sound effects, and other snippets into seamless soundtracks. There's a couple of albums of his work available under the title "The Carl W. Stalling Project" - amazing stuff.

Which wouldn't necessarily be a bad thing, in some cases. The sooner we forget Mariah Carey, the better!

It also provides a kind of cultural almanac to the era. One of the other great things about the Warner Brothers cartoons is the number of gags that refer to contemporary movies, radio shows, etc., some of which might well be forgotten if not for the continuing popularity of the cartoons.

A recent example of the kind of damage the current copyright insanity does: in a second season episode of Absolutely Fabulous ("Death"), there's a very funny scene in which Edwina, pondering the mysteries of death, initially impresses Saffy with her philosophical stance, only to reveal that she's actually quoting the lyrics to "Like a Prayer." The BBC edited out the scene when they released the show on video

Of course, if Di$ney has its way, the whole concept of public domain may fall by the wayside. They might be well advised to consider the case of Arthur Brooke, who in 1562 wrote a poem called "Romeus and Juliet," which is principally remembered today because Shakespeare blatantly plagiarized the story to use in one of his plays.

-Mark Steese a/k/a Corvus Marinus

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Hw�t! We have heard of the glory of chika that wrote news:[email], on the day of 05 Aug 2001:

Steve Jobs is still alive, isn't he? ^_^

Mark Steese a/k/a Corvus Marinus

"Corvus Marinus" wrote in message news:[email]...

Actually I think Shakespeare based "Romeo and Juliet" on an old Greek myth called "Pyramus and Thisbe".

Maybe not?

Firah

Hw�t! We have heard of the glory of "Firah" that wrote news:imnb7.3801$[email], on the day of 05 Aug 2001:

His most direct source was Brooke's poem, but he was familiar with the story of Pyramus and Thisbe as well - in "A Midsummer Night's Dream," the play that Bottom and the other actors perform for Theseus and his court is "The most lamentable comedy, and most cruel death of Pyramus and Thisby."

Brooke's poem is available on-line (see http://www.clicknotes.com/romeo/brooke/Barg.html) - the plot and most of the characters are too close to be coincidental.

(Incidentally, I'm an enthusiast of all things Elizabethan, and I would be happy to go on and on about this, but it's off-topic enough as it is! I suppose I could mention Kevin and Brittany's 'performance' of the balcony scene from R&J in "Cafe Disaffecto," but I doubt if anyone would be fooled. On the other hand, Brittany's line, "And I'll no longer be a Caplet," always cracks me up.)

Mark Steese a/k/a Corvus Marinus

More on-topicness:

Isn't Daria seen reading "Romeo and Juliet" in "The New Kid"? It's the scene where Quinn comes into Daria's room and tries to talk her out of her (and Ted's) campaign to reallocate yearbook pages. Daria's on her bed reading a book when Quinn walks in.

The title is not absolutely clear (at least on a small screen) but it sure looks like "Romeo and Juliet" to me.

Part of the conversation goes like this:

Daria: Listen, Ted has a point.

Quinn: Ah ha! It's that boy. So it's all about love, is it?

Daria (looking straight at the book): It is *not* about love.

:-)

M Man

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"MMan37x" wrote in message news:[email]...

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Yeah, it might be.

I just watched my copy of that episode.

The words on the book she's holding isn't that clear but it's looks like the first 3 letters of Romeo and Juliet. I think the second world is an 'and'.

I tried to slow down the tape speed so I could see what is on the cover. Unfortunately it only makes the wording even more distorted.

Firah

Hw�t! We have heard of the glory of [email] (MMan37x) that wrote news:[email], on the day of 06 Aug 2001:

Even *more* on-topicness! I can't believe I forgot that Daria teaches the English class "Romeo and Juliet" in "Lucky Strike." The ep is filled with R&J gags (Jake's attempt to remember the plot is probably my favorite). Hmm...looks like "Romeo and Juliet" is another one of those recurring references that the writers like to play with, � la the Civil War and Pol Pot.

Mark Steese a/k/a Corvus Marinus

Hmmm. I guess I hadn't noticed that no-one had mentioned that one already. Oh, well ...

There's a second mention in "The New Kid". It occurs in the scene where Daria and Jane are in gym class, supposedly spotting for another girl on the trampoline (she eventually crashes to the floor):

Jane: Wow! You're really into him, aren't you?

Daria: No. But I *do* like the way he scares my parents.

Jane: Are you sure annoying your parents is good grounds for a relationship?

Daria: It was for Romeo and Juliet.

M Man

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