I just noticed Daria's bedroom has padded walls. Makes me think of that Winona Ryder film, The Return of Roxy Carmichael. She painted her walls black and put six locks on the door so her parents couldn't get in. I wonder if Daria is the sort who would cut herself or something. I mean, why the padded walls?
-Shez.
On Sat, 5 Dec 1998 00:27:27 +0000, Shez wrote:
They make good soundproofing. Helps to keep out the sound of Quinn whining. :-)
Give Daria a little more time. Perhaps she'll get them by dipping into her Montana cabin fund...
Why would she do something as shockingly stupid as that? She's cynical and pessimistic, not depressed and masochistic.
The previous owner had a schizophrenic mother. That was her room. Why does Daria keep the padded walls and the sawed-off bars around the windows? Probably for the same reason she hung around with Beavis and Butt-Head: it freaks out Helen and Jake. :-)
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Ah well, I haven't seen the first series yet so I've missed out on all this background stuff.
Shez wrote in message ...
The padded room story was introduced in the episode "This Year's Model." Jane mentioned how cool Daria's room was and that she wished she'd had a schizophrenic shut-in living at her house, though she has Trent and that's almost the same thing. Daria told about how her mom kept wanting to redecorate so she'd pretend to stumble and almost fall and that would end the discussion for a while. Jane suggested that Daria could hurt herself really badly but Daria finally found another solution, at least temporarily. This may come up again in a future episode.
Bob
On Sat, 5 Dec 1998 00:27:27 +0000, Shez wrote:
A schizophrenic shut-in lived in her room before she moved in. She liked it so much that she left it up.
- I once shot a man just to watch him die. Then I got distracted, and I missed it. -Dave Foley, the Kids In the Hall.
I'm having problems finding tiger's whiskers. . . I want to trick my brother into swallowing them. . . . Although my brother has swallowed scissors with no ill effect, so. . .
-Kazul
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No, I'm curious: what for? Why Tiger's Whiskers?
I think people are having problems just _finding_ tigers... Though they have a whole new set of problems when they DO find a tiger...
[email] wrote:
Did you miss that? How long have you been here? Someone posted a whole load of ancient Chinese suicide/murder methods.....
In article , "endless, nameless" wrote:
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I've been reading this newsgroup since the end of November, but I came into work this morning, and there were 144 new messages to a.t.d, and with me reading this via Deja News I'm sure some may have been missed.
!! Could someone re-post that list of ancient chinese lore? (I'm preparing to run a role-playing game set in modern day Hong Kong... could be useful stuff to know >:} )
Which strikes me: it hasn't been done on Daria yet has it? Role-Playing games, I mean. Proper ones, not that VR thing in The New Kid (?).
Daria on D&D: Pro, Con, or just not bothered?
[email] wrote in message ...
Nope, never been done.
Daria...she probably wouldn't go for it. She doesn't strike me as someone who would be into the whole role-playing bit. If anyone fits the RPG stereotype, it's probably Upchuck.
Though, it might be funny to watch Brittany trounce all opposition in a wargame/RPG. It would be a way for her to use that tactical head she let us glimpse at in The Daria Hunter.
Cheers
Ever played "Warhammer"? I think that Jane would enjoy collecting and painting the intricate little figurines.
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Shadoc64 wrote in message ...
Glanced at Warhammer 40K. I'm a Battletech guy myself. Killer history, good universe, good game...all in all, excellent.
There are some pewter minatures in Battletech that measure about half an inch or so. Damn hard to paint, and killer on the eyes.
In article ,
Probably not: too small and fiddly. Plus, the only people who'd really appreciate them are people who PLAY Warhammer... and they're one rung lower than role-players on the ladder of social outcasts... ;D
(Been there, done that, came back again...)
In article , "Lerxst" wrote:
You're probably right, on both counts. Maybe Daria'd play just the once:
"I have to know; are the stereotypes real, or are they just another means of identifying social misfits for the purposes of ridicule?"
[4 hours pass, which feature elves, orcs, dwarves and dragons aplenty]
"I was right, the stereotypes are real. Isn't it reassuring to know there's always someone lower down the ladder of social outcasts than you?"
Reminds me of that Simpsons episode (forgive me, it come naturally) where principal Skinner and Mrs. Krabapple fall in love. Bart and Milhouse are discussing whether or not to attend Martin's birthday party.
Milhouse: "I dunno, Bart, if we show up at Martin's party, it could lower our social status."
Bart: "What are we now? A 2?"
Milhouse: "3. We get beat up, but we get an explanation."
Lerxst wrote in message ...
In fact I was just a little surprised that Daria would not only would deign to enter the video arcade but that she was familiar enough with it to invite someone else. That was unexpected. About the time I think I've pretty much seen the extent of her personality she surprises me. I LIKE that in a woman!
Bob
In article , "R. K. Henry" wrote:
Daria actually does some of the things "normal" teenagers do; she goes to the pizza place, knows where the arcade is, etc... Why does she do it? To observe?
It sure as Hell ain't so she can fit it; probably more like "OK, so I like to come here and eat Pizza. It doesn't mean I want to hang out with you." The practicalities of entertainment: doing it because it amuses you, not because everyone else does it.
!! Real outcasts wouldn't do any of that; they remain un-noticed. Daria is halfway there: people recognise her as a misfit, because she is _seen_ at the pizza parlour, etc.
(... Does that make sense? That's the most thinking I've done all day...)
Surely. : )
Let's see, the main things we covered were Hari Kari (which people knew a surprising amount about), the thing about the tiger's wiskers, and the pound of salt.
Tiger's wikers: An ancient way of commiting discreet and PAINFUL murder in China was to take a tiger's wiskers, finely chopped, and pour them into a victim's soup or tea. As the wiskers were taken in, they got stuck in the asophagus, causing lots of little cuts. It was extremly painful and the victim died of internal bleeding.
Pound of Salt: An acient way of commiting suicide in China was to eat a pound of salt all at once. Sorry for all you UK kids, I don't know what that converts to in the metric system.
CrtoonDude wrote in message ...
1 pound = 0.45 kilograms Is it important that you get the amount right, though?
"Paul gate" wrote:
I learned it as 1Kg=2.2lbs.
Umm.. Depends on who you're, ahh..'dealing' with.
In article , "Paul gate" wrote:
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[rubs hands] "Excellent, Smithers..." Thanks for that...
Sorry for all you UK kids, I don't know what that
Metric? METRIC?! They use METRIC on the Continent! The English INVENTED the Imperial system, and if anyone tells you otherwise, they're obviously Lying and a Foreigner, don'cha'know...
Scene: Hong Kong General Hospital's Accident and Emergency ward. Doctors are stabilising a suicide attempt. "Thank goodness we got to him in time! If he'd consumed those last 4 grams of salt, he'd have been done for..."
On Tue, 08 Dec 1998 12:47:09 GMT, [email] wrote:
2. You didn't invent it anymore than you invented that language you take credit for. America invented it. ___
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CrtoonDude wrote:
You do realise that noone in England actually *uses* the metric system, don't you? :)
Alli
Hmmm, sorry, I guess I just assumed. I kinda thought the Imperial system was exclusive to the US.
Grandpa Simpson: "The metric system is the tool of the devil! My car gets 5 ram-rods to the hog's head and that's the way I likes it!"
This is kind of ironic, because one of the Klu Klux Klan's goals is to entirely eliminate the metric system all together. They believe it's evil.
Sometimes, Kazul, I even you, for you don't have to put up with the stupidity of most humans.
CrtoonDude wrote:
We're *supposed* to use it, all the supermarkets have the prices up in pence per kilo, but most people don't....I don't know why that is....
Alli
It's because people don't like to have to learn new things. The mistake was in not making the metric system compulsory, as it allowed people not to change.
The way it works is basically, people who were brought up with the imperial system continued to use it as it was familiar. Now imagine you join some company and you know metric but all your superiors use the imperial system. You could either use the metric system and get their backs up and probably get passed over for promotion in favour of a better boot-licker, or you can buckle under and learn the imperial system so as to fit in with the people who are already there. Now unless your name is Daria Morgendorffer, you'll probably swallow hard and buckle under.
The media is also to blame, continuing to use old units. In this case the above scenario is compounded by the fact that media types are usually arty farty people who would run away screaming if asked what a square root was.
Having said all that, you will find that in practice, in industries where measuring stuff matters, ie. engineering and scientific work, the metric system is the one that's used, even in America. The advantages of the SI system of units are too great to be ignored by anyone whose bread and butter is juggling weights and measures: in contrast the uneven base system of imperial units make them a nightmare to do calculations with. Sadly the public profile of science and engineering is so low that this doesn't impact on society generally, as the public face of society is the arts-oriented media.
-Shez.
Shez wrote:
The English don't seem to like change at all, they're rather conservative as far as I've seen. I think it's good that they don't have that stupid shillings thing with the money over here like they used to. Metric is so much easier. In Greece there's just one unit of currency, which I'm not sure how to spell in these characters so won't bother. Why is it that all English shops sell things for �2.99, �99.99, 99p? It's so annoying! They made that illegal in Greece, you know...
I wouldn't swallow hard, I'd just consider it speaking to them in their language, sort of. What's that thing? When in Rome, do as the Romans do, or whatever. Like that.
Hehehe. I'll try that on my journalist cousin.
Is that why we always had to use millimetres in Graphics lessons? I never understood what's wrong with centimetres, we'd just have to say something is 550mm instead of 55cm, it was always mildly irritating..... Of course, I took Electronics as my tech option, so everything's microfarads, milliamps, kilowatts, or rather, it would be if I actually did any work.....
Alli
They should do that here too. Either that or issue banknotes for �9.99 etc.
I think the classic question is supposed to be "What's the square root of minus one". This is supposed to reduce people to blubbering wrecks. I can imagine Daria asking Quinn that, but somehow I don't think it would work.
And before anyone beats me to it, I'll add that the sqrt of -1 is i or j, depending on whether you're a mathematician or an engineer (engineers had already found another use for i).
So how many milliwatts of work did you do today?
-Shez.
Shez wrote:
LOL. Actually, you know that thing the English think Greeks do, smashing plates in restaurants? That's illegal in Greece too now.
There's no square root of minus 1.....
Uh...OK....
None. Work is measured in joules, anyway. I did very little work whichever unit you use, I had a Spanish Reading and Writing exam and that's it. I have no exams tomorrow, which is nice; I get to stay at home. :)
Alli
No, it's measured in Newtons. Or blisters from writing, in my experience, anyway.
CrtoonDude wrote:
No, that's force or weight, I think. Work is definitely joules, it's the amount of energy.
LOL.
Alli
[email] wrote in message ...
yep Work or energy is measured in Joules, force in newtons power in watts
On Wed, 9 Dec 1998 15:22:28 -0000, "Paul gate" wrote:
In order to avoid this sort of confusion I propose an new universal unit of measurment - the Happydude
for example: This morning I woke up at 9:00 Happydude standard time. The date was Happydude/10/1998 it was a thursdude the day before fridude, thank God it's almost fridude. Oh crap! Im 1 happydude late for work. My boss is going to cut my pay again, I'll be making happydude-wage again in no time. I bought a new car a few weeks ago it cost 1000 happydude's US and it gets 40 happydudes per happydude of gas. The Inch-worm will now be known as the Happydude-worm.
Happydude wrote in message ...
Hey i think your system could help simplify measurment How about conversion tables though
length speed
1 happydude= 1 metre 1 happydude = 1 km /hour 1 happydude= 1 km 1 happydude = 1 mph 1 happydude= 1 statute mile 1 happydude = 100 mph 1 happydude= 1 nautical mile 1 happydude = 1000 mph 1 happydude= 1 yard
Question... What is the volume of a sphere with radius 1 happydude Answer..... 1 happydude^3 or one cubic happydude :-)
This is fantastic!! Please can i use your sytem of measurments, or do i have to pay a royalty?
On Wed, 9 Dec 1998 17:56:21 -0000, "Paul gate" wrote:
I'm glad you like it. I guess the happydude is public domain. What is the point of selling the sky or a sunbeam? If you feel that the happydude has improved your life and you feel you must pay something, simply give a few happydude's to your favorite charity.
BTW i missed the answer. what it the happyroot of -1?
The art world will also benefit from the happydude!
I am current developing a fourth primary color, I think i'll call it happyhue.
For you musicians, minor and major keys will have a new name. For example the key of C major will now be called C happydude, A minor, the relative minor of C happydude will be called A unhappydude.
Happydude wrote in message ...
The world thanks you happydude You have cleared up one of largest niggling problems humans have ever faced. Measurment shouldn`t be about amounts at all it should be about happiness I confidently predict rulers with 1h 1h 1h 1h along their length ie marked off in happydudes And bank acounts that can hold one happydude of money and can never overdraw.. How can you have a NEGATIVE amount of happydudes?
In the field of astronomy all stars will be called happystar-1 and their distance from the sun will standardised as one lighthappydude
Prices will stabilise at one happydude and poverty will be erradicated
In short the world be be a less confusing place and its all thanks to you
the happyroot of -1 is equal to (the happyroot of -1 / the happyroot of-1) * the happyroot of -1
On Wed, 9 Dec 1998 19:35:52 -0000, "Paul gate" wrote:
Thanks! It will also put an end to thousands of years of insecurity caused by negative body image.
man: does size really matter? woman: as long as it's at least a happydude.
or
Salesperson: can I help you? customer: yes, I'd like to buy a bra salesperson: I see, what size? customer: happydude
Plus it's a great way to confuse the police
Cop: do you have any idea how fast you were driving? Driver: happydude cop: ok, don't let it happen again.
Happydude wrote:
So what's, say, Gsus2, or Dm6/9, or Cadd9?
Alli
On Thu, 10 Dec 1998 20:34:44 -0800, "endless, nameless" wrote:
So far Gsus2 and Cadd9 will remain the same, however Dm6/9 will be called Dunhappydude6/9 or Dunhd6/9
a semi-tone will become semidude a whole-tone will become happytone Numbered intervals will remain the same with the exeption of unison and the octave. They will become happison and octdude
Happydude wrote in message ...
Get this one patented though, plagarism runs riot through the art world
I tried this once at the Chicago Cubs newsgroup. People kept introducing "Adjustment Factors" to make the stats, so I just declared the universal value of all known and unknown things to be something like 43.3
On 10 Dec 1998 16:49:16 GMT, [email] (Happydude) wrote:
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ARGH!! I just can't stand it anymore! Work is measured in dollars per hour. Or for our friends across the pond, pounds per hour. ;->
HTH
Except that would have to be a sort of inverse measurement because the greater the dollars/hour figure is, the less the work figure is. Like at Meijer for instance (Meijer for all of you living outside of the Great Lakes Region being a sort of Wal-Mart/grocery store in one) where I worked:
The baggers earned 5.15 and had to bag, push carts, clean, water plants, walk around the lot picking up trash, pull weeds, and everything else
The cashiers earned 7.17 and only had to check out things
The "service coordinators" (list people) just ordered people around and earned more than the cashiers
The "service managers" sat around in an office and did nothing and got paid more than the list people
So the most accurate measurement of work would be 1/(dollars/hour) which would equal of course one Reallypissedoffdude, because everyone who worked at Meijer is always Reallypissedoff
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you from detroit? (i live 5 blcks from a meijers) Saerah
On 19 Dec 1998 05:59:47 GMT, [email] (AniSaerah) wrote:
I'm from Detroit... specifically, St. Clair Shores, currently living in Royal Oak. I'm slowly migrating my way west across the state. :-)
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i live in royal oak , too! cool. Saerah
I'm sorry.
Oh wait, it's only working there that I'd be sorry.
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yeah. meijers is quite an interesting place at 4 am when you're tripping balls. Saerah
Just be sure not to work there "Oh, I'm sorry, we gave your paycheck to someone else. There's nothing I can do about it. Move along, there are more people in line."
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Ah, that must mean they do it then! Or they wouldn't have had to make it illegal.
Oh right, I forgot, I don't think they do complex numbers until A-level maths. That was the one bit of A-level maths I found easy. A complex number is basically a two part number made of a real part and an imaginary part, with "i" being the imaginary number which represents the impossible square root of minus one. The weird thing is, that a lot of physics equations rely on this mythical number. What happens in practice is you multiply them out (since by definition, i^2 = -1) or else you throw away the imaginary part of the answer at the end of your calculations, using just the real bit for real life applications.
Or maybe mathematicians and physicists are just barking mad.
Damn these clever people! Actually I measure work in cups of coffee.
-Shez.
Shez wrote:
They did, it was sort of a showing off thing. "I can afford to break a load of plates!" Don't ask me, OK? I was about 3 when I moved here! It was also because the tourists kept doing it, and they didn't pay for them after.
I was kinda thinking that whilst reading the above, yes....
Ah, but I don't like coffee! So I don't do any work because I don't drink any coffee!
Alli
But caffeine is the distilled essence of life! So no wonder you don't do any work if you don't have any coffee inside you. If you don't like the taste you could always try taking it intravenously.
-Shez.
On Thu, 10 Dec 1998 20:48:51 +0000, Shez wrote:
Personally the taste is worth it for effect from the caffeine. Just put in enough sugar and cream. If that doesn't work add about half a pack of hot chocolate mix. The caffeine will wake you up, the sugar will insure that you'll never blink again.
Shez wrote:
I can't do that, I have totally the worst phobia of needles. Before I was diagnosed with depression, I had to have all these blood tests, for glandular fever, anaemia (which everyone was convinced I had, I'm extremely pale) and various other things, and it was horrible. The first one I had made me bleed everywhere, my shirt sleeve was literally covered with blood, and the second time, I was given a small plastic bottle or something to squeeze to stop me shaking so much, and I broke it. When we had our polio vaccination or whatever it was, the lady stuck the needle in my arm, and I pulled it out again before she could do anything. Still, that's not as bad as my friend Karen, who actually passed out.....
Alli
On Wed, 09 Dec 1998 23:39:58 -0800, "endless, nameless" wrote:
The square root of -1 is i, which is the basis for all imaginary numbers, which are found in the roots of quadratic equations, among other things. I'm not sure if they have practical applications.
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In article , "endless, nameless" wrote:
Well, there is if you count imaginary numbers. I didn't make that up...someone else did.
On Wed, 9 Dec 1998 23:07:49 +0000, Shez wrote:
I am both a journalism student and a central Illinois Algebra Champion, thank you very much, and I am well aware of the imaginary numbers and their uses.
___
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they were invented as a tool against the russians but then abandoned in the sixties when everything became imaginary anyhow? (I don't even remember who I stole that from. Could be Tom Lehrer...) ... I know what imaginary numbers are, as for uses... well, I can't think of uses for anything from Adv Algebra...
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endless, nameless wrote in message ...
I was once told that it's because of some very, very expensive mistakes in the early days of metrication. Like the engineering firm waiting for a low loader to deliver a part they'd had made for a big project. Phone call after phone call, until the suppliers sent round a copy of the signed delivery note, someone checked with the storeman, and he produced a cardboard box with the part inside: it had come in the post. The firm who sent out the drawing had used metres as the unit; the firm who made the part used millimetres... It was considered desirable, I was told, to fix a standard for engineering drawings, after cockups like that.
Martin.
are you the same shez that hangs on ARW? Saerah
AniSaerah wrote:
Are you the same AniSaerah that hangs around on alt.music.nirvana?
Alli
yes. ive posted a few times there. Saerah
That's right, it's an exclusively Scottish and Welsh thing.
-Shez.