Trent's Health

Trent seems to be coughing a lot in recent episodes. I don't recall this in earlier seasons. Perhaps they're planning something similar to "Jake of Hearts". Trent suddenly succumbs to a potentially life-threatening illness, forcing Daria to finally admit to him how she feels.

In article , Michael Sears wrote:

Trent has been coughing a lot from the very beginning of the show. This hasn't changed. Trent coughs a lot on the show...because he's a LOADIE. A HESHER. A STONER. A POTHEAD. They can't say it in so many words, but Trent smokes lots of weed. It's obvious. And apparently it's affecting his cognitive skills, because Trent gets DUMBER AND DUMBER with each episode.

In my fics from a long time ago, I explained his pulmonary problems by him being a preemie when born. However, that was me trying to rationalize it.

Face it, Trent likes to get blunted. He's "insane in the mem-brain." Trent doesn't "Just Say No." And that's a little something you'll never see confirmation of on the show because simply they'd catch tons of hell from the US Gov't if they did.

Don't worry about Trent's health. He'll never get Glaucoma, that's for sure. ;-)

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Michelle Klein-Hass said:

I agree.

This has occurred to me. It's also occurred to me that Jesse may be even more of a pothead, or worse. I don't think that Trent is truly stupid: just overly impulsive and impractical. But Jesse acts close to retarded.

Both could be true, of course. Trent could be physically sick, _and_ a pothead, or worse. He doesn't look healthy at all, and never has.

Unfortunately, you could be right about this. Which is going to make it difficult for the writers: if they bring up the issue (because it affects his friendship with Daria in some way) they'll have to dance very carefully around it.

Sincerely Yours, Jordan

he us very thin. i think he smokes pot too...... i ve never smoked pot. im drunk again.

missy aggravation wrote:

*giggle*

Oh *really*? Hm, gee, could've fooled me.

*wink*

LI

drunk two nights in a row. heh. my californian friend's californian friend is staying in england for a while, we feel it's our *duty* to show him the english way of life. ;)

[email] (missy aggravation) wrote in :

Especially if he's between 18 and 21, cause he's old enough to drink here but not there :) Hold on a sec arn't you only 16 or 17 ? :)

Phill.

i'm 17, so's he. but nobody cares about how old you are, so long as they can reasonably say that you *look* 18.

"missy aggravation" wrote in message news:[email]...

<grins in recollection>

Ah, what joy it was to be fif-, ahem, sixteen in this land, and tall for one's age. <sigh>

Not that I'd want to be sixteen again. <shudder>

Martin.

[email] (missy aggravation) wrote in :

Heheheh yeah and some of the people I've seen in pubs that look as if they are about 12 :)

So they don't have those ID cards to proove that you are 18 in your part of the UK, I know they had them at one point here in Coventry, though it was ages after I was 18, so I didn't really pay much attention.

Phill.

they don't really care around here in most places, as far as i can discern.

Take him to a football game and get him drunk, and pursuade him to tell the guy with "Manchester United" Tattooed into his scalp and a English cross pinned to his niples with safety pins that "This isn't real football"

Now that is the English Experiance!

"missy aggravation" wrote in message news:[email]...

haha. we don't like football, and we don't want him to get *seriously* injured, so we wouldn't do that. we tried to make him "walk like an egyptian" around a blanket, but he was too drunk to cooperate. we got him to take his shirt off (on condition that everyone else did) though.

Get him to goto the Legion and try to pay for a drink with US Currency! or have him call Tory MP's to discuss the possiblity of Canada and the UK joining the United States. Or have him stand in the middle of Picadilly Circus and handout NRA phamplets. Or my personal favorite, have him drive the wrong way down the street treating the speed limit as if it were in Miles not Kilometres, then have him tell the police that "I AM AN AMERICAN, I CAN DRIVE HOWEVER THE FUCK I LIKE"

There is no limit to the fun you can have with an intoxicated American in a foreign land. The problem I have is all my American friends have lived in Canada atleast as long as I have and aren't victims of American public schools are are therfore too bright to walk up to a football holigan and say "This isn't real football"

"missy aggravation" wrote in message news:[email]...

football"

lol! unfortunately after a couple of drinks all he will do is repeat indefinitely "hi, my name's Jordan, i'm from California, that's why my name is Jordan. I'm in england now." Any attempts to make him do anything else are met by biting and shouts of "fuck off, bitch! rawr!"

I HAVE GOT IT!

PUT HIM IN MILITARY CAMO, PIN AN IRISH FLAG ON HIS BACK, GIVE HIM A SUPER SOAKER AND DUMP HIM ON DOWNING STREET,

Intoxicated Naturally,

If you do that, email me and I will jump on a plane, I would want to videotape it!

ROTFL! hah. i'll mention it to my friends. hehe.

[email] (missy aggravation) wrote in :

While this could end up being quite funny, I would caution against it, as I dunno if "impersonating a terrorist" is illeagal. :) Though at least in the UK, we tend to be a little less trigger happy than some places, so he prolly wouldn't end up getting shot, but I don't think he'd be too popular.

Phill.

I think it is a spectacular idea,

Imagine, it would make the front page world wide, not to mention the wonders it would do for the IRA's credability!

<BBC Newsroom>

This is the BBC, I am Phillip Payton, a man was captured outside the prime ministers residence this afternoon with a bright green water pistol unconsious in a pool of his own vomit.

Dressed in Military garb with an Irish flag attached to his back it is belived the man is a member of the Irish Republican Army. He has been taken to a London Insane Asylum for observation.

Unconfirmed reports from Scotland Yard sugest the unidentifed man has a blood alchol level of 6.93

Now to Sport,

3 football hooligans belived to be responcible for the beating of an American teenager during a a Manchester \ London match were caputred this afternoon . . . . . . . . . .

Uhhhh, I am so fucking bored, Summer afternoons suck, I might as well be in taking summer term and the house is full of my brothers retarded friends watching Britney Spears videos.

There is nothing on TV except shitty movies from the 80's, Antiques Roadshow, trashy American Talkshows, ugh I should have Taped "Popular" last night, did anyone see it? oh christ, I am rambling. I should stop.

"Phill Harvey-Smith" wrote in message news:[email]...

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You aren't talking about _me_, right? Among other things, I've never even BEEN to California. And I don't drink more than a wine cooler or two.

Sincerely Yours, Jordan

i presume it isn't you, then. ;) it's just a guy named jordan.

maybe now, Daria will get over that silly infatuation with Trent. That infatuation is so unlikely for someone like Daria.

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It's obvious (from that _second_ kiss) that Daria is _really_ attracted to Tom. That was so passionate I half expected him to take her right there in the car (well, not on-camera, and probably not all the way, but definitely beyond just kissing).

(Would have been a _bad_ place to do it though, they were parked right in front of her house).

I mostly expected Daria to break the clinch, though, which she did. One reason being that Tom hadn't broken up with Jane yet.

I don't think Daria is thinking much about Trent now. But I wouldn't count him out in the long run. I still think there's more worth to Trent than meets the eye.

Sincerely Yours, Jordan

[email] (Jordan S. Bassior) wrote in :

<Butthead> uhuhuhuh that would be cool uhuhuhuhu </Butthead>

You don't wanna see the mental image that that counjoures up in my mind :) yes I'm a dirty old bugger at times :)

Indeed yes getting caught in the middle of doing it with your boyfriend by your parents infront of your house is not smart :) heheh it's bad enough when it's the other way round :)

Which in some ways makes Tom and Daria as bad as each other because they both *knew* that Tom & Jane where oficially an item.

So speaks the shipper inside :)

What you mean he's some sort of Terminator or something.....though he must be an early model, that they hadn't got the recharge cycle right on yet :)

Phill.

Phill said:

The kissing scene between Daria and Tom was both highly romantic and erotically charged, even though they didn't do anything more than kiss.

Getting caught by Quinn wouldn't be fun either.

In Daria's defense, he initiated the first kiss, and Daria was kind of overwhelmed by the whole situation. She'd never been in any situation like this before, as far as we know.

Heh-heh-heh :)

No, just that he's a good and decent man.

Sincerely Yours, Jordan

[email] (Jordan S. Bassior) wrote in :

Ah well I've not seen that bit yet, though I have checked out the clip on MTV, must download that once I'm at home :) Dammit, now if only I could be Tom :)

Well it would give Quinn something on Daria, so that she could be the one doing the bribing and manipulating for a change.

True, and these things can be very complex situations, having been involved in something similar with a frined of mine and his then girlfriend I know that they can creap up on you unawares, and have serious repacussions(sp?), cirtainly my (ex)friend and I have pretty much kept away from each other for the last 6 or so years.

:)

But most of us never doubted that did we ? Shipper fic aside, we didn't know much beyond him being Jane's brother and being in a band that must change it's name.

Phill.

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This is like, your catchphrase. I admire your ability to work in Butthead's laugh in the most have-nothing-to-do-with-Butthead posts. And I'm not being sarcastic, either.

[email] (kim ) wrote in :

Heheheh thanks, I suppose like some of the other people on here I got into Daria, cause I was a fan of B&B to start with. I forget what I was replying to but generally if I use that it's cause it's the sort of thing that one of the boys would think was cool...like seeing people making out or the like :)

Phill.

I believe that would be a *Transformer*. Heh. I know this even though I HATED cartoons as a kid. It's just that damn theme song I heard almost every freaking place I went. "Transformers...more than meets the eye..." Ugh. Now I'm getting a picture of Trent as a Transformer. It's horrifyingly funny. Maybe they should do an alter-ego of that... *snicker*

LI

<shudders> Oh, great, that one line has brought back horrible memories of a late 80's childhood.

Autobots lead the battle to destroy the evil forces of the Decepticons?

In article , [email] wrote:

Yep. Used to think this was the greatest show ever, back when I was 10. I'm now 24, I think you all know what my current favorite is if I'm posting here.

Still "Autobots, transform and roll out!" and that noise they made, rocked, especially the transforming noise.

A.J.

_Transformers_ was a cutting-edge show in its times. For one thing, it was perhaps the first American TV animation since the genre got dumbed down in the late 1960's in which two characters not only fell in love, but married and had a child.

Sincerely Yours, Jordan

[email] (Lady Interference) wrote in :

<Beavis> WOW That guy's one of those transformers ! </Beavis> ....and he said this during a video you *SHOULD* recoginse LI :)

Humm that shows promise actually :)

Phill.

Phill Harvey-Smith wrote:

*snicker* Yeah. "Come Undone". *grin* I was so beyond freaked when I was flipping through the channels one day and I landed on "B&B" commenting on that video. I then started watching the show to see when that would come on again. I thought they were gonna be so horrible to it, but they actually kinda thought it was cool, didn't they? Real big surprise there, especially since they did NOT go for the obvious comment, i.e. the '80s connection. In that instance, at least, B&B were more mature with their comments than most music reviewers, even.

Hm. Yeah. It *does*. And if I had more artistic talent I would try to do something like that. Maybe someone could flesh this baby out...?

LI (way excited b/c she's got a DD keychain now! She totally collects keychains and almost choked when she saw one!)

[email] (Lady Interference) wrote in :

I have it on a tape of B&B episodes that I got from a friend of mine, it is pretty cool.

Well not so much cool per se, but they didn't slag it off loads, like they did the one time they played a Rush video, and they used to make fun of U2's Bono most of thr time "Boner ! boner !" :)

hehehe well I have seen some of the crap that they commented on, and for the most part they do seem to mostly like cool music, actually I have them watching Black Sabbat's "Iron Man" Beavis, really gets excited about this one, though they also insult Ozzy and call him an old fart :)

Not me, nope my artistic tallent lies with computer code i'm afraid, oh and seeing weird connections between pieces of music, and situations in books/tv shows/fanfic based on tv shows even** :) etc.

Cool, I had a B&B one at one point but I actually used it and eventually it broke.

Phill.... really pleased cause he picked up 3 motherboards, a tape drive, 48Mb of ram, and a load of other stuff at the car boot tismorning for 5 quid (I believe that's somewhere around $8 to you US types :) ).

** Couple of U2 songs that I think go really well with Martin Pollard's "Sins Of The Past".

"Love is blind if you are gentle, Love can turn to a long cold burn" -- D:T:J

    Hi.  I'm new to this group, but I figured I'd just jump on in, being a
Daria fan and all.
    I definitely don't think the Trent issue can end so easily, since
there's probably more to him than meets the eye.  And also, you know how
when Tom and Daria are talking in her room and Trent comes and stands
outside the door for a little while, listening?  Maybe it's just me, but
that's kind of "suspicious."  Still, in Lane Miserables, she did *seem* to
"get over" him, right?
    I'm sure the Daria people aren't going to leave all these ends untied
when everyone's as curious as I am.  At least, I hope not!  I'm just waiting
for the movie now!
-gem

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He also looks really sad when he hears how animated their conversation has become. Now, of course, one reason he has to be sad that has nothing to do with any attraction he still has for Daria is his fear that _Jane_ will be hurt. Trent loves Jane more than anyone in the world, and Trent has probably also witnessed some Tom-Jane arguments so he may have already suspected that Tom was going to break it off.

Yes, but not _decisively_. Remember, it ended with her having a _second_ fantasy, in which Trent was rich, competent, and successful, and it had all been because she'd married him and changed him for the better (and I know that "changing" one's lover is a dangerous ambition, but note that it's apparently what Helen did with Jake, too).

Sincerely Yours, Jordan

[email] (Jordan S. Bassior) wrote in :

I have to agree with Jordan here, and for Trent, it's probably not a vrey nice situation to be in he loves Jane, but he also respects Daria, so no matter what he did or said to anyone, he would end up doing wrong by someone, and could quite possibly find himself a target for anger or whatever from both sides.

It is ? is there any evedence to support this, or was it just a case of Jake grew up and matured over time ? I'm not doubting that this could be possible Jordan, just that my memory could be a little flakey on this.

Phill.

Phill Harvey-Smith said:

Just an educated guess on my part: Jake _still_ doesn't act real "mature", and Helen is _definitely_ the one who "wears the pants in that family."

Sincerely Yours, Jordan

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But he's still come a long way from his days of trying to psychically levitate the Pentagon.

[email] (Michael Sears) wrote in :

<Jake>Damn five sided building</Jake>

Yeah everyone knows that that takes large gravity generators to accomplish that :)

Phill.

[email] (Jordan S. Bassior) wrote in :

Oh right so it wasn't my memory being bad :) No he may not be mature, though he definatly has his moments :) And I do agree with you about Helen, though living in a house with three females and no other males would I would imagine be "dificult" at times :)

Phill.

sorry about that. I'm not quite familiar with the spoiler system yet. I'll get it next time, I promise. :-) -gem

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Living proof that some newer people to alt.tv.daria *do* have poilte attitiudes about the spoiler thing. Unlike that last guy, who blew up over a simple request for spoiler space. ;)

*krimren* c.a.t.a.t.o.n.i.a it's all over the front page/you give me road rage/racing through the best days/and it's up to you boy driving me crazy/thinking you may be losing your mind/

Kim said:

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Gem seemed cool to me.

Sincerely Yours, Jordan

kim wrote:

No kidding. gem, you're more than welcome to continue playing in the clubhouse. Anyone else who's not as gracious to follow the rules of posting here..."up your nose with a rubber hose". I had to do that...sorry, I've totally been flashing back to my childhood...first listening to '60s Motown, now going back to "Welcome Back Kotter"...um, anyways, yeah.

*grin*

LI

Lady Interference said:

"Haugh! Haugh! Haugh!" (Horshak laugh) :)

Sincerely Yours, Jordan

Didn't she, though, in the Lane Miserables show? I love the line she said, too.

"I think I just got over something."

Ah, but you're forgetting the ever-so-important, "Damn." -J The Leopard Lady "People shouldn't be judged by the color of their skin. They should be judged on important things like their taste in music!"-Murphy Brown "She's too short to play me."-Joey Potter Too short to play herself in a movie

Trent. That

How so? Just because someone is intelligent and independent doesn't mean they can't have a "silly infatuation" every now and then. Love has a completely different set of rules than most of what Daria deals with. I thought the way she dealt with Trent was quite natural for someone with her personality and experience.

-----> Violator's Toad <-----

"Please be careful, I exist in someone else's head." - from "Annie" by Our Lady Peace

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[email] (Contentious Objector) wrote in :

NRA ? excuse the ignorance ?

Ah but the speed limits in the UK are in miles/hour :) and besides they'd brethalise him, and arrest him for being drunk in charge of a car. Actually it seem sin the UK you can be done for being drunk in charge of almost anything :)

Humm I always wondered how Amreican Football (I'm the QB !) got the name after all they seem to do more running carrying the ball as far as I can tell, rather than kicking it at their feet as they do with soccer.

Phill.

"Phill Harvey-Smith" wrote in message news:[email]...

National Rifle Association, You know, it is the duty of every American to own as many guns as they can afford because England and Canada could attack at any moment.

Me Lazy.

I am aware of that, I just did a cut\paste of a comment one of my friends made about American drivers on ICQ . There are alot who come up here assuming it is like England and they have to drive on the other side of the road. Hell, some see the Queens picture at Canada customs and think they have driven all the way to England.

and besides they'd

Speaking of Drunks, What do you think of Tony Blairs plan to crack down on drunks. other than his son of course?

I have no idea, I hate American football, not enought violence . . . . . among the fans that is

Contentious Objector wrote:

You know, I actually don't think the NRA is all that bad. Ugh. LOL. Actually, I've become desensitized to it after watching some of their infomercials. And since my place of employment handles the phone orders for membership for the NRA, the callers have kinda made some sense of it all. Of course, it *is* telling that most of the callers are men, especially considering that they might be making up for a lack of attributes in a certain physical location....

Actually, my parents and I weren't that bad once we crossed the border into Canada. The only thing we noted was that, while we were physically in a different country, it looked awfully similar to the American scenery we had just spent hours passing through. Just fyi -- we crossed the border between Washington state and B.C. So the only province I've visited is B.C.

Um...maybe it's because in American-rules football (which is similar to Canadian-rules football and isn't too far away from Australian-rules football) the person *has* to run around while carrying the ball...? I have no idea. And while American-rules football was being created, my family was back in Mexico, so we have *no* clue. *smiles*

(oh yeah, and on a similar note...did you know that one of the founders of Yahoo! is a Dallas Cowboys fanatic? Hm....)

"The viiiiolence of summer, and loooove's taking over, it's staaaarts with desire, ends uuuuuup under covers..." Heh.

Actually, that's basically because American football fans are for the most part simply interested in watching the game. And because most of the fans wait until their team wins the Super Bowl to unleash the demons.

LI (more of a basketball fan than anything)

On Mon, 17 Jul 2000 03:00:12 GMT, Lady Interference wrote:

Same here regarding Michigan and Ontario. I've crossed over into Canada at two different points -- Port Huron to Sanilac [heading to Niagra Falls], and Detroit to Windsor -- and the first thing I've noticed is that they look almost identical. Except that Canada is a lot cleaner. :-) I had no problem with kilometers per hour, either: I just set the cruise control and forgot all about it. <grin>

Contentious Objector said:

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No. What they say is that it is the _right_ of American citizens to own guns, if they want to.

Sincerely Yours, Jordan

[email] (missy aggravation) wrote in :

<Brittany> Don't drink or take drugs. </Brittany>

:)

Yeah I could believe that both Trent and Jessie are pot heads, though apart from the lethargy they seem to show none of the other traits commonly in my experience ascociated with smoking pot.

Strange the only character I can ever rember drinking or smoking anything is Andrea in "Cafe Disafecto", and that was back in season 1, then again my mind could be going.

Phill.

i wouldn't know. :)

quinn had those guys fetch her a drink at britanny's party in... i forget the name of the episode. the one with britanny's party. :) they didn't say what the drink *was* (whether it was alcoholic or not), though.

[email] (missy aggravation) wrote in :

Such as the tendance to giggle at the slightest provocation, bad cases of "the munchies", wanting to eat, anything :) Oh and it makes you feel um "aroused" if you know what I mean. Or this is what I've heard anyways :)

"The Invatation"

No, that is true they did not, though, based on eviedence(sp?) elsewhere it was probaly a soda. Besides Quinn as yet does not seem the drinking type. Then again it is mentioned on several occasions that Jake does drink, infact thinking about it we have seen him glass in hand several times :) See what I mean about my mind going :)

Phill.

Phill said:

They did want to stock the van with munchies of dubious quality.

Probably American puritanism at work here. For some idiotic reason, Americans expect TV characters to be "role models" and judge them accordingly. This has a chilling effect on the variety of TV, which is one reason that when a show like, say, _South Park_ or _Futurama_ deliberately violates this expectation, we love it.

Sincerely Yours, Jordan

[email] (Jordan S. Bassior) wrote in :

Humm true I suppose, though, one would have thought we'd have seen evidence more ofthe than this :)

Gahh! not that'd definatly not what I want from a TV show, I do wiant something that is a little more realistic and isn't afraid to tackle subjects that other shows wouldn't touch.

I suppose we'd better add Beavis & Butthead to this list also. Is Futurama that thing also done by the creator of the Simpsons ? If so I have seen a couple of eps and it IMHO ok. South Park I can take or leave depending on what sort of mood I'm in.

Phill.

Phill Harvey-Smith said:

Yes. Matt Groenig.

Sincerely Yours, Jordan

[email] (Jordan S. Bassior) wrote in :

Yeah him, I couldn't remeber the name, so I said "by the creator of the simpsons" cause everyone knows the simpsons, not everyone could recognise the correct person from my crappy spelling of his name :)

Phill.

Phill said:

That's an interesting colorful oath:

"By the Creator (of the Simpsons)!"

"By Groenig's Hammer!"

"By Kirby's Big Gun!"

I like the idea ...

Sincerely Yours, Jordan

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Maybe the gov't wouldn't have as much of a problem if something serious happened to Trent. Of course, they wouldn't be able to *show* Trent smoking, but they might be able to show him at the hospital recovering from something drug related. I hope the writers don't do anything that cheesy, though. Episodes with such obvious messages ("don't do drugs or you'll end up like Trent") are usually lame.

-----> Violator's Toad <-----

"Please be careful, I exist in someone else's head." - from "Annie" by Our Lady Peace

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It's a shame he's not a tobacco smoker, there's a whole host of dramatic diseases he could be hospitalised for, various cancers, heart disease, maybe the odd amputation.... admittedly such problems wouldn't normally set in until later in a smoker's life, but a little artistic licence could be used.

-Shez.

Shez wrote:

Gawd. What a wonderful list of "dramatic diseases" for a cigarette smoker to possibly eventually end up with. Great, this is exactly what I want to hear after puffing on a cancer stick. LOL. *wink*

(actually, I'm just joshing...and yes, I do smoke, but not anything nearing a pack a day or even a pack a week, and I *know* I shouldn't be doing that, but still...oh yeah, and what's weird is that I'm a total teetotaler when it comes to alcoholic beverages...hm...)

LI (waiting for the angry mob to come after me)

Violator's Toad said:

Technically, you do realize that this isn't even supposed to be the government's business? The government _made_ it their business through a very dubious reading of the First Amendment back in the late 20's or early 30's, in which it was decided that the First Amendment was meant only to apply to _print_ media, not the airwaves. Of course, LATER decisions semi-reversed that, but the status of TV, and whether or not the government has the right to regulate its content, is very much up in the air (legally speaking).

Historically, the TV stations have avoided the conflict by "self-regulation". Which is to say, not giving the Government an excuse to regulate their content by regulating it themselves, more sternly than most government censors would have.

Now, cable stations don't broadcast "on the airwaves." The Government has gotten away with regulating cable, though, which is why HBO was forced to stop showing outright X-rated movies. And even NC-17 movies, save at certain times of night.

I personally wish that the Supremes would just decide that regulating content is outright _wrong_, and say as much.

I suspect that the writers are anti-drug, but I've never seen them do anything serious in a "cheesy" fashion, so I don't think that they're gonig to do this in "after-school special" style.

Actually, I'm _beginning_ to suspect that if Trent does fail, it will develop that one of the reasons is drug use. (The bigger reason being his laziness). And that if he succeeds, it'll be because he was able to overcome both.

Sincerely Yours, Jordan

On Fri, 14 Jul 2000 20:11:03 GMT, Michael Sears wrote:

Gag, puke. You've been reading far too much "shipper" fanfic. :-)

that would be ratheer clishecd. that came oiut wrong. damn...1

Michael Sears said:

I could actually see this: Trent is lethargic (save for his bursts of musical activity, which probably take a lot of his total energy) and has a persistent cough. We don't know what else he has, but he's _never_ struck me as particularly healthy or physically strong.

Sincerely Yours, Jordan

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I don't know if Daria would just out her feelings like that, but maybe Trent's illness would get her thinking about them.

Oh, congratulations to Martin on Outpost Daria remaining active.

Jeff M.

Jeff Morris said:

Daria wouldn't gush, but she'd care. Even if we assume she's no longer attracted to Trent, she still _likes_ him.

I echo these sentiments. I think that this was a crucial point for Daria fandom: if MTV had killed OD, the show's fan base would have started to die.

Sincerely Yours, Jordan