I'm a big Daria fan but don't get to watch it that much. When i got the DARIA DIARIES I noted that postcards to or from Lawndale had the STATE hidden
SO
1) is it known where Lawndale is it (like the Simpsons) an in-joke that they will never reveal it? (Doesn't quite seem like Daria-style humor to not tell us where the state is. Maybe to not-care.)
On 23 Mar 1999 09:54:42 -0500, [email] (William Ian Gasarch) wrote:
The answer, William is:
"Lawndale is in your television set."
Seriously, Lawndale is supposed to represent every moderately upscale suburban town in America, therefore its exact location is not known (nor is it really necessary, except to us Obsessed Ones!).
With that said, there are a few clues that help to narrow down its probable location (spoiler alert!):
(20 lines follow to give some spoiler warning)
Anyway, those clues are:
Therefore, I'd speculate that Lawndale is somewhere on the east coast, far enough south to at least get a glancing blow from a Big Wind, but far enough north that they'd get snow. My guess might be somewhere in Maryland or Virginia, as that would put them within reach of People Of Southern Persuasion (re: "I Don't").
Also, think about this. What town was the wedding in "I Don't" held? Leeville. What's the name of the famous Confederate general from the Civil War? Robert E. Lee. From where did he hail? Richmond, VA. The circumstantial evidence does tend to pile up, doesn't it?
[insert eerie "Twilight Zone" music here]
Martin (to send E-mail, remove the "nospam" from my E-mail address) ---- Quinn: "When they got nervous, they'd drink cocoa." Helen: "Now, sweetie, there's nothing to worry about." (door slams) "Looters!" ---- Outpost Daria: Your Online Database for All Things Daria! http://systech.simplenet.com/daria/
On Tue, 23 Mar 1999 15:18:40 -0800, [email] (Q�0) wrote:
Although I won't get into it with you, I will point out that if you look in the archives of this NG, that has been the exact quote used in Chris's FAQ for quite a while now.
___ Kyle
Trying is the first step towards failure
Cubs Win! Cubs Win! The Good Lord wants the Cubs to win!
Hey, you stole that from the fucking Simpson's newsgroup. And do you mind giving us the name under which you supposedly dropped these nuggets of crap, or wisdom depending on your point of view? Or would that be too logical, too reasonable, and completely blow your stupid arguments out of the sky?
-Mindy the Pissed Off
"Q�0" wrote:
Firstly, I don't have $100. Secondly, nobody cares.
"Q�0" wrote:
I don't have �100. I'm unemployed and shop too much, which isn't uncommon for a lazy/bored 16-year-old girl....
If you don't like this newsgroup, you know what to do.
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You just don't happen to have any concept of exchange rates. Alli hasn't got 100 bucks, so you suggest she may have 100 pounds, when everyone knows that our money is worth more than yours.
Bettster (paid in your crummy money)
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Boy do I know about exchange rates now! At least between Britain and the States. $1.60 - $1.70 is the current going rate for 1 pound sterling, I believe. So pounds sterling are worth roughly 60% - 70% more than good old American dollars.
Our "crummy money"? Sure, it may not be as colorful (or, in Britain, "colourful") as your paper money, or as impressive as the pound/2 pound coins, nor do we have as cute a currency as your pence, but it definitely does work, and besides, it felt good to be able to see it again. Kinda like a coming home.
Oh, I am such an American.... *g*
deena lissa
"Let's kill the NME! Yes! And the Melody Maker too! Strangle 'em both!" Jane: Dear Daria, Lousy Traitor. Daria: Dear Jane, I know what you are, but what am I?
deena lissa wrote:
I remember the last time I spent a significant amount of time in Canada, it was sooo hard to think of the Canadian money as real money-- it wasn't that Gawdawful green... <g> Pretty, though... Same thing with German and French money-- too colorful. Now, American money, with it's Gawdawful green implies a feeling of sobriety and seriousness-- the money itself oozes a feeling of security and stability, no matter who the Head Pinhead is in Washington at the moment. But it's true-- foreign currency always feels like play money to me. <g>
Me, too... in spite of my European relatives, I just can't think of their money as money... Monet, maybe, but not money. <g>
I do like the redesign of the US bills, though-- it's only been, what, 90-100 years since the last redesign? Are we squares or what? <g>
rich.
Helen: Bureaucracy is the price we pay for impartiality.
Jake: Jefferson!
Helen: Stalin.
Oh yes! I finally get to see this guy's posts first-hand!
(Hey guys, I'm deena lissa...actually using my real name and a "real" newsgroup program. Don't applaud -- it's only temporary *g*.)
Anyways, I do have to agree with what Q-box-0 (yeah, I do finally see the "zero") says. Actually agree with the person. The bills are hideous, yeah, but also meant to be hard to counterfeit, yeah, like Q-box-0 said.
She who will return now to the lovely world of DejaNews (I just wanted to see what was being filtered out over there...we don't see everything, ya know),
Diane/CityGirl7609 (or shall I revert to deena lissa for the time being...?)
Q�0 wrote:
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The only thing I got against your money is it's worth less than mine. It looks so good when I'm checking out my months earnings online, and then I change it back into my money and the moment is spoiled cos I've now not got thousands :(
Oh, and it costs me 10.50 to get my paycheque made into pounds, bank vultures :( Bettster
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What a note is worth depends on what you can buy with it... Example: about 3 Easters ago, my mum, my brother and I went to the Philipines for a family Reunion. We were staying at a beach holiday resort, and the first night our cousins took us to a couple of bars. Now, a bottle of San Miguel beer (locally produced) was 13 Pesos, the overinflated tourist price. A bottled beer in England will cost around �1.75 depending where you go (in London, it could go as high as �3 or more, correct me if I'm wrong). The exchange rate at the time was �1 = 40 pesos. That's right, for the price of a single bottle of Budweiser, you could get 5 bottles of San Miguel.
Comparing the prices of beer is a good way of seeing what your money's worth. Big Macs have been used as alternatives to beer in some cases.
Aren't dollar bills all the same size, no matter what denomination?
Pence? "cute"? that's a first... what does that make cents then?
I won't disupte that...
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What an interesting way of looking at things. But my number one choice (Burger King Whoppers) might not work in some places, or might be too obvious in others (e.g. in Britain a $0.99 Whopper costs $1.60 American.) Oh, wait...I believe the one pint I had while over there cost me 2 pounds 50, which I believe is roughly $5.00 American. I think over where I live the same amount of beer would cost $1.50 American, which is a major difference. Of course, I'm only doing an approximation as I've never before taken an interest in beer.
You mean our paper currency? Yes, they're all the same size. And same color. And same consistency. Although we are working on incorporating that special strip / counterfeit deterrent on all our paper money.
I dunno. I guess since I'm so used to seeing it it's not anything special. Although I will be the first to say (at least here) that your five pence coin looks a lot like our American dime (10 cents).
That's another thing...we have alternate names for our coin currency. I just realized that. Like, we call the one cent coin a "penny", the five cent coin a "nickel", the ten cent coin a "dime", and the 25 cent coin a "quarter". Funny how I just noticed that after dealing in those names for so long....
I heard that. *g*
deena lissa
"Let's kill the NME! Yes! And the Melody Maker too! Strangle 'em both!" Jane: Dear Daria, Lousy Traitor. Daria: Dear Jane, I know what you are, but what am I?
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My roommate, who's from Japan, and not very good with English, always asks me for a "quarter dollar". It always takes me a couple seconds to remember what the hell he's talking about.
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It occurs to me that the Big Mac exchange is in relation to Average Wages... All Big Macs are the same Value, as it were, but how many you can afford depends on the relevant countries average weekly wage. ... I'm not sure I've described that well... Lessee...
A Big Mac is US$1.60, UK�0.99p, 400 Bogrovian Ulgars[1], and 35 Kvetchland Groats[1]. For the purposes of example[2], lets say the average weekly wage is US$150, UK�100, 75 B. Ulgars and 250 K. Groats. As you can see, a stupid american or gormless brit can buy around 100 Big Macs with their weekly pay packet, while the less afluent Kvetchlanders can get 7 Big Macs for their money. The Bogrovians would have to save up several weeks to afford a Big Mac. Which means the Bogrovians are the happiest and healthiest people in the world.
[1]Fictional countries, if you hadnn't guessed, seeing as I don't have any factual data. [2]Because I don't have factual data.
... Ah, forget it, it's easier to work out in beers...
Yup, sounds about right for London. The pub I deign to call my regular haunt averages �1 per pint, and that's considered pretty good value.
Same here, but it helps to know about these things...
But that metal strip is how the CIA tracks your movements...
"Pence" is plural for "Penny": one penny, two pence. Though being British we say "a one pence piece".
Pointless factoid: apparently in the UK it's illegal to pay for anything over 21p using only coppers (1ps and 2ps). There was a story in the local paper ages ago about a student who was kicked off a bus because they tried to pay their 60p bus fare all in coppers. Doesn't stop shop owners giving you 50p of change all in pennies though...
Bear wrote:
Maybe there should be a movement to make Beer the new Euro. <g> It'd probably be more stable, I'd bet. <g>
Yeah... makes it easier to design wallets--- it's that whole wallet-industrial complex conspiracy. Although the idea of bigger bills actually being bigger is kinda cool...
Cents (as in pennies) are useless, unless you put them on railroad tracks and let em get smooshed by a train... that's about the only thing they're good for. Quarters are the only useful bits of change in this country, and even then they're a little too heavy.
penny-wise and pound-foolishly, rich
"Woooo, what a racket!" -- General Buck Conroy, Publisher, Brutal Mercenary Magazine.
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As a regular user of public transportation, I'm going to have to disagree with that. You need exact change, after all, or you end up over paying. try getting exact change for a 40 cent transfer with only quarters ;)
Anywho, the tokens I use are about the size of a quarter (little smaller) have no ridges on the edge and have a copper-colored strip right down the middle.
Mike Quinn [email] "...the race is long, and in the end it's only with yourself..."
AND, ever since they jacked up the public-phone price to 35 cents, and since none of them are designed to give change, those thin little dimes come in handy. --- ~Po
"Don't feel bad about not feeling good." ~TME
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They did that over where you live too? 'Tis quite an inconvenient thing to have to run to my campus bookstore and ask for two quarters and five dimes as change for my dollar bill, instead of the way I used to do it (four quarters).
deena lissa
"Let's kill the NME! Yes! And the Melody Maker too! Strangle 'em both!" Jane: Dear Daria, Lousy Traitor. Daria: Dear Jane, I know what you are, but what am I?
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True - anything whose size and quality is pretty much standard across the world will work for this. Big Macs, cans of Coke or bottles of beer all fit this bill (as long as the beer is comparable - comparing a bottle of 2% alchohol beer made with rice and bits of beechwood to a nice wholesome bottle of Black Sheep isn't meaningful).
All this does is compare prices, though - this doesn't take into account local economic conditions. For example a bottle of beer for 13 pesos might look very cheap, unless you find that the local average hourly wage is 2 pesos.
A more meaningful comparision is "hours worked to be able to afford {the standard thing}".
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Hey! you know the answer! Did someone clue you in so you've got a goal to strive for? I think it's great what caring educational professionals can do for even the most backwards child.
Bettster
[email] (Q�0), among others, wrote:
[massive snippage throughout]
With all those quote characters messing up the text wrap, I thought the haiku thread was back again!
Scott
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Why would I spend effort writing a brilliant witty reply to you? I have a life and actually come here for fun, not to try to claim the prize for most useless tosser on usenet.
Bettster
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I guess I should be glad DejaNews is filtering [Status] Q�0's posts... Not that I'd read them anyway...
[email] (Q�0) wrote:
I don't know, your address line is a whole lot less creative than it used to be when you posted under that *other* three-character pseudonym. Sign of incipient laziness?
Peace Kevin
She's talking about TDH, fool. I was thinking the same thing myself, and ho that person strangely disappeared when I figured out their real identity and sent them a lil' e-mail. Poor Tania; she was too spooked to even say goodbye...
-Mindy
Who is/was TDH?
The Daria Hunter?
Bloody TLAs... <g>
And I'll reply, because your [email] address looks so damn legit.
Like I'm going to waste my hard-earned money on some stupid fucking troll.
Because we must obey the almighty Q�0.
-Mindy the Unarmed
"Q�0" wrote:
You really are desperate, aren't you?
"Q�0" wrote:
Attention.
And? Did you copyright the phrase or something? Take it as a compliment, someone used "your" sentence. You don't have to make sure everyone knows what a brilliant thing you did every time you say something sensible and someone else remembers it.
I have a problem with you, but it's not fair for the rest of the group if I express that every time you post, so I'm going to try to ignore you.
On Tue, 23 Mar 1999 23:37:47 +0000, "endless, nameless" wrote:
The twerp craves attention, and the more we give it, the more it'll seek. Like you said, Alli, the best thing to do is to ignore it -- either voluntarily, or with assistance (i.e. if your news reader has a "twit filter"). Let the twerp claim credit for creating the whole show, if that'll make it feel more superior to everyone, as long as you don't let the twerp ruin your enjoyment of the newsgroup.
Martin (to send E-mail, remove the "nospam" from my E-mail address) ---- Quinn: "When they got nervous, they'd drink cocoa." Helen: "Now, sweetie, there's nothing to worry about." (door slams) "Looters!" ---- Outpost Daria: Your Online Database for All Things Daria! http://systech.simplenet.com/daria/
"Martin J. Pollard" wrote:
LOL, it's not ruining my enjoyment of the newsgroup, I like arguing! :) I'm just worried about everyone else's enjoyment of the newsgroup because reading other people's arguments isn't much fun....
In article , "endless, nameless" wrote:
And you do it so WELL! It's like--a gift. It would be a shame not to use it. :)
Bob
[email] wrote:
LOL, why thank you. <g>
"Q�0" wrote:
LMAO!
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*I'm* not going to quote your pearls of wisdom, troll.
Sorry, no.
Apologies to everyone, I swear this will be the last time I reply to this guy....
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This is so true...i have struggled for years now, to get the recognition i deserve for the phrase..."i`m sorry, i`m talking crap" People use it now, willy nilly with no mention of me, whatsoever.
However I give you alone, special permission to use my phrase, if you wish ;-)
"Q�0" wrote:
You do take yourself pretty seriously, don't you? The ability to talk crap and admit it is very important, IMHO. And I should know. ;)
Sometimes one can't help oneself. Shot me before I sin again.
<mondo snippage>
;-)
Pretty much lets us all know what you are full of.
Jon Armstrong The Space Ranger
I swear, never again. Honest!
Q�0 wrote in message ...
Fine i`m not insisting that you say my phrase, just so long as you know that if it you ever do need to use it, you can, nobody will object
I actualy encourage the use of my work :-)
On Tue, 23 Mar 1999 23:28:32 +0000, "endless, nameless" wrote:
Stop! Stop stop stop stop stop! Cut it out!
In the words of the immortal Butthead, "Damnit Beavis! Quit being a dumbass!"
I saw Q's post, and thought, "not again. Let's hope nobody responds." Sure enough, a reply from Ali.
If it were anyone but you (or Martin, or Joe, or...) I'd just ignore you like I do Q. I just don't like to see an otherwise decent poster get sucked into this sort of thing. I'd hate to have to start ignoring _everything_!
Tarvok wrote:
I'm sorry, I really am! I just can't not reply to people! I know, it's really annoying, but I'm weak and I can't keep my mouth shut... I swear, no more replies. I mean it. :)
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"Desperate but not serious, your kisses drive me delirious"...oops, sorry, had to start singing Adam Ant there *g*.
(moving on to respond to ?'s thingy)
ANYWAYS...Kyle's right. That quote's definitely from the a.t.d FAQ. So it's not yours, symbol guy. Ya might wanna check out the FAQ to see original sourcing.
Talk about lack of attribution....
deena lissa
"You are lost and alone, but a prisoner of your pride..." (Duran Duran 1986) Jane: Dear Daria, Lousy Traitor. Daria: Dear Jane, I know what you are, but what am I?
Fronzel *Neekburm*, you sound like an elementary-school student. "You're using my word!" "No, you're using my word!" "MOOOOOOOOMMM!!!! She's using my word!" "Q�0 is ruining my life *again*!" "SHUT UP, YOU TWO, OR I'M GOING TO TURN THIS CAR RIGHT AROUND AND WE'LL GO TO THE WORLD'S LARGEST BALL OF TWINE INSTEAD OF DISNEYLAND!!!!"
See what I mean?
-Mindy
On Wed, 24 Mar 99 02:06:25 GMT, [email] (Mindy) wrote:
Like I said, Mindy, all it wants is attention. The best thing to do is to deprive it of the attention it craves, and the way to do that is to stop replying to it. Let it rant and rave and attempt to prove its superiority all it likes; the only thing it will really accomplish is to show everyone just how pathetic it is. Truly, it deserves our pity, not our scorn.
Martin (to send E-mail, remove the "nospam" from my E-mail address) ---- Quinn: "When they got nervous, they'd drink cocoa." Helen: "Now, sweetie, there's nothing to worry about." (door slams) "Looters!" ---- Outpost Daria: Your Online Database for All Things Daria! http://systech.simplenet.com/daria/
[email] (Mindy) wrote:
Oooo! The World's Largest Ball of Twine? I am *so* there... it's much more realistic than stupid ol' Disneyland. Besides, it's fun to talk to someone crazy enough to actually devote his time to collecting so much twine. ;-)
Yeah, but I'd still rather see the ball of twine. ;-)
rich
Quinn: People are so weird!
Daria: Some are weird. Some are just astonishingly self-centered and deceitful.
The line would be a lot shorter than at Disneyland, that's for sure. There probably aren't many concession stands, though.
May I direct you to a dictionary, where you may research the definition of the word "joke". And I've been insulting you since you got here, and this is the first time you turn your overinflated head? Jeez, you're not as on-the-ball as you think.
-Mindy
Nothing you'd be familiar with, I'm sure.
Yes, I know, don't feed the troll. I like fighting on Usenet, though. If anyone wants me to stop save this idiot, please speak up.
-Mindy
"Q�0" wrote:
Yeah, Mindy, you're silly, why don't you just fuck off and die? Get off our newsgroup, you silly bitch, we don't want silly people here. Why can't you just be sensible, like Q�0?
<Lip starts to quiver, eyes water, then all the sudden the waterworks start> But... I.... WAAAAAHH!!! <Runs into the bathroom and locks the door, then yells, "I'M NEVER COMING OUT AGAIN!!! IT'S BACK TO LURKLAND FOR ME!">
-Mindy (who invites you to notice that that was a JOKE; you guys aren't THAT lucky. You're never getting rid of me now.)
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Seen it. Knot very good.
...with Harry Headline reporting from the front... "Thanks Chet. It's pretty quiet here along the front lines of the simmering on again, off again Daria Pun Wars, with only occasional sniping from prepared positions..."
Jon Armstrong The Space Ranger Graveyard gives one a unique outlook on life. A dark one.
*Wipes tears from eyes* I think I laughed for about twenty minutes on that one..... DJ
Jane: "Dammit! I left my exacto knives in Pediatrics!"
Wammy2 wrote:
I almost laughed, which is pretty surprising when I'm feeling this shitty. :)
Alli, you're the greatest source of humorously depressing quotes I have yet encountered. I'd salute you, but I just don't have that kind of motivation today.
Eric Stevenson wrote:
I'm not really sure how to take this.... <g>
Heh, join the club. :/
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It is not known for sure. Here's the Official alt.tv.daria Answer to the "Where Is Lawndale?" question:
Lawndale is inside your television.
That's as good an answer as you're going to get, because it's left vague on the show purposely. Otherwise, we'll all go on a long, drawn-out, pointless thread trying to convince one another that it's in Connecticut, or California, or Maryland, or Texas, or some other place.
This information is on my site, The Daria FAQ, which started life as a FAQ for this newsgroup. Unfortunately, ISP problems have brought it down for about the past week. I'll let everyone know when it's back up.
Chris Majors Keeper of The Daria FAQ Watch this space for updated URL!
Well, I have no idea where Lawndale really is, but I can tell you where it's not! Obviously, Lawndale is not in Michigan because we Michiganders says "pop" and not "soda" like they always do on Daria. Also, Lawndale is probably not in New England or in the Southern U.S. because they don't have accents. Lawndale is probably somewhere in the midwest, but I could be wrong.
silvercandi
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I'm from the South and I don't have an accent. In fact, most people from the South DON'T have an accent. The whole "Texas drawl" thing is really only limited to older white people, who comprise a minority of the population. So it is possible that "Daria" is set in the South.
deena lissa "well, y'all come back here, ya hear?" (ROTFL)
"Let's kill the NME! Yes! And the Melody Maker too! Strangle 'em both!" Jane: Dear Daria, Lousy Traitor. Daria: Dear Jane, I know what you are, but what am I?
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The general DC suburbs don't have much in the way of accents, either. Most people seem to originate from some other part of the country, so the accents aren't able to build up. Personally I like the idea of putting it somewhere in northern Virginia or southern Maryland. Far enough south to get a glancing hurricane blow, far enough north to have different seasons, there's old colonial religious schools around, and close enough to the southern relatives at the wedding. Plus the area would support all of those high-powered jobs. Anyway, that's my stance on the issue.
Ann And of course the fact that I grew up in Virginia has nothing to do with this...
Ann Booth wrote:
Actually, according to Michelle, who heard it from Glenn Eichler himself, he said that Lawndale would probably be in the Baltimore-Washington area, if it was anywhere, which it isn't... if you get my drift. (In other words, it's everywhere and nowhere, but if it was anywhere, N.Va/DC?Md. would be a good guess.)
muddying the waters even further without any pretense of edification, rich.
"Unethical is only two letters away from ethical..." -- Paul Michael Mercurio
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We know that Lawndale is close enough to the coast to be threatened by hurricanes. We also know that the window in Daria's bedroom faces the ocean "there's an ocean--that way.") We also know that that same window in Daria's room faces East because that's the way the morning sun comes in. That pretty much eliminates the West coast and probably eliminates the Gulf coast. The Lawndale area is a suburb of a pretty dense urban area, as we see from the traffic Jake curses his way through. Both Jake and Helen have their six-figure jobs as sycophants which, along with the sun angle through Daria's window and the direction of the ocean probably eliminates several locales along the Southeast coast. The only other possibilities to eliminate might be the NYC area and South Florida. I don't see any specific reaons to eliminate those places but somehow I don't think it likely that Lawndale would be located there. Based on all this, and maybe some other clues, I'd guess somewhere in the Baltimore megalopolis is probably a pretty good bet for Lawndale.
Bob