I wonder whether Daria's world is one where the characters get a year older every year, as in cartoon strips like For Better or for Worse, or where everyone is suspended in the same age and circumstances, like the kids in Peanuts.
If Daria's world exists in real time, she will go to college in a year or two, and the show will either end or change substantially.
Has anyone seen clues to this? - - Jonathan Sachs Sand River Software, Inc. To email me, replace the 'x' with an 'a'.
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Newspaper comic strips that "age" like "For Better...", "Baby Blues" and "Jump Start" can do it gracefully because they're done daily.
With only 13 episodes a year, we'd miss out on a lot of Daria if we moved up up a year in age every season. That's just one show for every four weeks of Daria's "life."
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That didn't occur to me, and I personally don't agree. I've thought this over and decided that I'd rather see the show develop in real time. I believe that any serial story that tries to explore the interior lives of its characters is richer if it incorporates the passage of time. But I know some people feel differently about it.
When I posted the original message, I was hoping that other people could point out clues to what the creators of the show have in mind. - - Jonathan Sachs Sand River Software, Inc. To email me, replace the 'x' with an 'a'.
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I don't agree with that. I prefer shows that suspend the aging process. Most regular sitcoms that have kids are doomed when the kids start getting older and no longer interesting. This is why I like animated shows. They are frozen in time.
Imagine Bart and Lisa Simpson in their late teens. No thanks.
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Hmmm...actually, just playing devil's advocate here, if the producers had aged Bart and Lisa and Maggie even slightly over the course of the series (say, a year or two) it might have saved them from the repetition and increasingly farfetched plot ideas which have spoiled a number of Simpsons episodes for me over the past couple of years. In that case, the background of the characters is so rich -- and the focus of the series not restricted to one character or one situation -- that allowing the characters to alter over time would not have destroyed the fundaments of the show.
(Besides, my all-time favorite episode of The Simpsons is the flash-forward to Lisa's wedding. That episode showed that all the character relationships still worked even with the characters radically aged, although that wasn't the reason it's my all-time favorite.)
But of course, this isn't the case with Daria, a show which is entirely about one particular girl and her travails in dealing with life in high school. As others have pointed out, having Daria graduate from high school and enter college -- a very different environment -- would change the show too radically.
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One of my fav episodes as well, Maggie as a teen was great and would have made a great ongoing character. Who knows, maybe someday she would be allowed to talk :-)
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Amen to that. The Simpsons is losing it I'm afraid. I heard a rumor that the people who do the voices have not yet signed their contracts, and if the producers don't meet their demands, we might have all new voices for the characters.
I hope the writers of Daria have enough stuff to keep it going for at least five years. After only one season, I'm very impressed that they've been able to build such a rich set of characters.
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I don't know...the episode this last Sunday at the museum was pretty hilarious.
I think it would be the end of the show. FWIW, I think the voice actors are WAY underpaid. The guy who does Homer's voice makes about 1/30th, yes one-thirtieth, of why the supporting actors on Seinfeld get.
I doubt that MTV will hold onto the show for five year, but you never know. At least they don't have a policy like Nickelodean. There, a show is on for three years and that's it...no matter what. The demise of "The Adventures of Pete & Pete" and "15" just about killed me!!!
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I miss The Secret World of Alex Mack :-(
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Jonathan...there's NO WAY they're aging.
Heck, they don't even change clothes!!!
I think it's something akin to Groundhog Day. Every episode takes place at exactly the same moment in the lives of everyone on Daria.
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Part of the pleasure in watching Daria is that I can almost never tell what the creators of the show have in mind before I actually see them doing it...but that isn't quite what you meant, right?
This probably isn't any closer to what you had in mind either, but lately I've been catching up on old Beavis and Butthead episodes that I missed the first several times around...and there is something very interesting about watching Ms. Morgendorffer in some of her early appearances there. The character wasn't fully developed yet -- apparently, Glenn Eichler created her simply because Mike Judge wanted "a girl" in the cast, and an intelligent girl seemed more interesting than trying to create a female B&B -- and she hasn't got all the personality traits we now associate with Daria. She's much more approachable, not noticeably scornful or sarcastic, and not as witty either. (In one episode, when instructed by a gym teacher to demonstrate artificial respiration techniques on Beavis, her response is a simple "Eeeeuu, gross!" rather than what we would now think of as a typical Daria reply.) In fact, she seems like a much younger girl, who hasn't yet acquired the cynicism and defensive verbal skills which make her so quotable today. You could almost say that an aging process *has* already taken place between B&B and her solo debut.
I haven't seen all of the Daria appearances on B&B yet -- can anyone enlighten me as to whether this idea is totally off-base?
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On Mon, 23 Mar 1998 17:28:00 GMT, [email] (Jonathan Sachs) wrote:
More than likely it will be like Bevis and Butthead and be continually in her 10th grade year. I'd rather it be that way, since Daria would prolly become more accepted over time in HS and if she went on to college, she wouldn't be the "un-cool" girl anymore, since there would be such a large amount of ex un-cool kids at her college.