This has probably been discussed to death,but I'm wondering what sort of episode ideas are they going to come up with for the fourth season? I mean, they've pretty much done everything.Even Daria coming down with a mysterious illness, which I thought wouldn't work and did. Maybe this season they'll be forced to do something more with the supporting cast. I hope so.
Jeff Morris
On 17 Sep 1999 23:21:03 GMT, [email] (JMorris830) wrote:
How about a shift of focus to Jane and her newfound boyfriend. It would be interesting to follow Jane around and have Daria in the supporting role for a change. MSB
Well, it would be nice to see more of Tom in there, but I don't think they have to change the _whole_ show now that Jane has a SO. One or two eps early in the season (say #3 or #4) largely from Jane and Tom's POV would be cool though, IMO.
Jeff Morris said:
I'd like to see more of Mack, Andrea, and Stacy.
Sincerely Yours, Jordan
"Man, as we know him, is a poor creature; but he is halfway between an ape and a god and he is travelling in the right direction." (Dean William R. Inge)
On the mountaintop, [email] (Jordan S. Bassior) spake thusly:
Who? ;-P
-Mindy
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I think there should be an episode where the characters go somewhere far away, like a family vacation to France. Also, I'm not sure if Daria will be a senior in Season Four, but an episode about Daria avoiding her senior trip could probably happen.
-----> Violator's Toad <-----
On Sun, 19 Sep 1999 13:34:58 GMT, some letters randomly coalesced from individual pixels, claiming to be from Violator's Toad , and it said:
That'll be season 5. One more season of her junior year to go.
Violator's Toad wrote:
Nah, if a senior trip is done it'll probably be a Peggy Nicholl script with the whole cast. :)
Chad wrote:
Maybe it's because I went to a Catholic school and stuff, but I haven't the slightest clue as to what a "senior trip" is...care to enlighten me? I could tell you all about my senior retreat in exchange...or maybe not, if you'd rather not.
Diane
A senior trip is a one day outing where pretty all the seniors, and some faculty, etc. go somewhere like a waterslide park or something like that and play around all day. A reward for surviving three years as non-seniors.
Think "The Daria Hunter" or "Fair Enough" in real life, and that's more or less what a Senior Trip is.
- Chad, who wonders what sort of senior-tripish episode(s) Peggy is going to write in Season Four.
On Mon, 20 Sep 1999 07:20:33 GMT, Chad wrote:
It was 1 or 2 weeks (I don't remember exactly) in Italy at my school. And I refused to join in, of course. I _hate_ group trips. MSB
Matthias Benkmann wrote:
1 - 2 weeks in Italy? I'd love to go to Italy! To see all the ancient Roman ruins, eat at an authentic Italian restaurant, people-watch, sample gelatto, that sort of thing. Italy sounds so cool. But alas, I do see even that sort of trip being ruined by a large crowd of people who think it's funny to mimic everything they see and that it's a good idea to run around literally and get absolutely "plastered" as my fiance likes to call it. (That's the way a lot of my fellow classmates would act during day trips we made to the Mexican border towns.)
Diane
same here, and i have to go on about 3 this year, so far. at present nothing's certain but it could well be France, france again, and sweden, iirc. or something like that. i don't know, i'm still a bit *hangover-y*.
damn europe people. I talked to this person from England a while ago (who still didn't get that Q series tape... grr...) who's like "yeah, I went to France over the weekend". Our senior trip was to Ohio I think... Cedar Point (amusement park). France, Ohio... hmm.
Dagny
http://members.aol.com/Eccles9697
"And the people bowed and prayed to the neon god they made... and the sign said the words of the prophets are written on the subway walls and tenement halls and whispered in the sounds of silence" Paul Simon
Yeah but you get to see America more often than we do. I've heard though that there are people in the middle of America who've never been to the seaside. Coming from a country where the sea is never more than about fifty miles away, I find that really weird. I recall in the film Rumblefish there's a guy (played by Mickey Rourke) whose dream is to see the ocean, but he dies before he manages it, but his little brother (Matt Dillon I think) reaches the Pacific in his stead.
I can still remember the time I first saw the Pacific, and it was quite a Rumblefish moment, though I arrived by trolleybus rather than by motorbike. I remember seeing the Pacific at the end of the street and thinking how this was a whole new ocean I'd never seen before, on the other side of the planet.
-Shez.
There's a joke that goes: in Britain they think 200 miles is a long ways. In America, they think 200 years is a long time.
Len
Len Pitre wrote:
I've heard that one before. And the interesting thing is, it's absolutely true. I talked with my fiance the other day and he was taken aback by the fact that it took me five hours to go from one Texas city to another (which means it was roughly 300 miles away), and I shrugged it off...then I thought about all the buildings I saw around his town, and I figured they must've easily been built around the 1700s or so and that wouldn't have been thought of as being old at all.
I thought the whole distance thing was just a Texas thing, though. Guess not. But a definite Texas thing is childhood memories of Galveston and the Gulf of Mexico...another is day trips to Mexico...think almost every Texan has been to Mexico at least once in their life...hm. It ain't much, really. Nothing like France or Italy or Germany or something like that, probably.
Diane
Hallucinating Elvis Lady wrote:
I know what you mean-- on Monday, I did a total of about 500 miles of driving, just helping relocate my sis and her family's stuff back to Wilmington. (It's normally shorter, but all of the easy ways are flooded-- long story.) And next Monday, I'm going to start the 1250-mile drive to Dallas again. *shrug* It's no biggie to me. But then again, I like driving on the open road.... :)
rich.
"Stop the bus! Stop the bus!" -- Chester
On Wed, 22 Sep 1999 01:22:30 +0100, Shez wrote:
I remember the first time I saw the Atlantic. I was just a little kid and the waves were several times my height. They still impress me but ever since I almost drowned a few years ago, bathing is not what it used to be. I don't know if I will ever get over that experience. Drowning must be the most horrible death. You fight against the waves but every time you reach the surface again you realize that the current has drawn you farther away from the beach. You try to swim back but another wave crashes onto your head and presses you under the water as if you were just a little playball. You lose your sense of up and down, and at some point everything turns pitch dark and then comes that moment where you just realize "I'm going to die. I'm really going to die. I can't feel my arms anymore, I can't feel my legs anymore. It's positively _over_." And it was so strange, this calmness. Everything was silent. It was like hovering in space, no up no down and everything's black around you. And time seemed to slow down while you talk to yourself. But the scariest moment was when I gave up fighting. It's like in 1984. The waves are not satisfied with just killing you. They want to break your will first. They don't drown you, they just wear you out till you give up and drown yourself voluntarily because you _want_ it to be over. I still can't believe I survived. I was so fortunate that a surfer was trapped in the waves, too, and his board got washed past me in the last moment. I grabbed it and just clung to it. But the weirdest thing was when my father (he was there, too) and I got back to our bungalow and pretended nothing had happened. We just could not tell my mom. It would have worried her too much. And we never ever spoke about the incident. MSB
p.s.: Thanks people for giving me the opportunity to finally talk about this. It's really a relief.
On 21 Sep 1999 21:23:44 GMT, [email] (Dagny Scott) wrote:
To kindle the flames of envy: By the age of 18 I had already been on vaction in Germany, Austria, Italy, France, Spain, Yugoslavia (when it was still one country), Greece and Denmark. Except for Yugoslavia, I think, we went to all the other countries by car (because of our dog, we always take him with us. Yugoslavia was before we had him). MSB
<snip Dagny & MSB discussing how great Europe is>
Of course, here in the US we don't get our asses bombed off every time theirs a world war!
On Fri, 24 Sep 1999 03:12:12 -0400, "Bob Ohler" wrote:
You haven't seen my secret plans, yet <evil grin>. MSB
I knew it! That sinister German accent gave you away MR Mad Scientist.
(your initials speak to me: they say Mad Scientist, Bob!)
On Sat, 25 Sep 1999 00:23:17 -0400, "Bob Ohler" wrote:
I vonder how you noticed ze accent. I haf done everysing I could to disguice it. But I am reliefed now, zat I can gif up ze masquerade :-)
I can only repeat: Heil, Bob!
MSB
p.s.: Of course I don't really speak that way. In fact if I concentrate on it I believe I can do a rather good American (somewhat southern, I need to have my mouth full for best results), British (a bit exaggerated), Irish, Asian (a little stronger than Ms Li), French (somewhat gay) and German accent when speaking English. Convincing of course only to people who don't belong to the respective group. When no one's around I like to imitate accents. I particularly like doing British.
If you send me your phone number, I could call you to give you some samples.
In article , [email] (Matthias Benkmann) wrote:
grin>. MSB
LOL...so THAT's why you want to come and visit me, isn't it?
Jess the homeless one
On Tue, 05 Oct 1999 21:05:06 GMT, [email] wrote:
Yes, I want to see the country while still intact. And of course I want to get you out of there before I launch my doomsday device :-) MSB
p.s.: Welcome back, Jess.
well I've visited Indiana, Ohio, Illinois, Wisconsin, New York, New Jersey, Virginia, Kentucky, Nevada, Florida... heh. :)
Dagny
http://members.aol.com/Eccles9697
"And the people bowed and prayed to the neon god they made... and the sign said the words of the prophets are written on the subway walls and tenement halls and whispered in the sounds of silence" Paul Simon
Dagny Scott wrote:
Just to make everyone feel better, I've barely been anywhere, really. I've only been to Arizona, California, Washington state, British Columbia (Canada), Nuevo Leon (Mexico), New Jersey (shouldn't really count because it was only while we were waiting for planes to change), and 1/2 of England. Oh yeah, and I've seen almost all there really is to see in Texas. That's all.
Diane, who is waiting till she's grown up to be an intrepid traveler
I'd like to go to Australia and New Zealand. And as I guess California may not be totally typical of the US as a whole I should really see some other parts of that too. And Greenland, which I've only seen from a height of about 10,000 metres. It's a shame planes aren't like buses where you can just ring the bell and get off if you see somewhere you'd like to take a closer look at. Maybe airliners should have a little decompression chamber at the back where you can leave by parachute to visit in-between destinations that take your fancy. I guess there'd be the difficulty of how to hop back on board the next plane as it flew past though, you'd need a little taxi plane or something that could fly up and dock with it.
-Shez.
On the mountaintop, [email] (Dagny Scott) spake thusly:
*sticks her nose in*
Where in the Moo State did you go?
-Mindy
Dcode: Ap D+ T7 Wl Q++ Fn^Fr O- Or+Os+Od m-- c MV-- C5X F:101,308 BBd FCJ -DT-- q fJ^fM^fO(Artie :-P) Find the Daria Geek Code at http://www.geocities.com/TelevisonCity/Taping/3017/
umm... well I went through it from Canada once and then I went to Madison once.
Dagny
http://members.aol.com/Eccles9697
"And the people bowed and prayed to the neon god they made... and the sign said the words of the prophets are written on the subway walls and tenement halls and whispered in the sounds of silence" Paul Simon
On Mon, 20 Sep 1999 22:48:07 +0100, "endless, nameless" wrote:
Just wondering, do you use the Chunnel to go to France? MSB
i've never been yet, but i think that's what most people do.
Or it could be more like my senior trip (which I avoided, of course:) where only the members of the sports teams (and suckups) go, with no faculty, and get stoned/wasted/plastered for a solid week while everyone else is sitting through exam reviews. The only good thing is when they get back and you get to see them all with killer hangovers/withdrawl symptoms. Or, if you have a solid stomach and the only semisober person there had a video camera, you borrow the video tape and get to watch minors perform various illegal and possibly unnatural acts.
Len
Duh... I was thinking about the Senior Picnic, not the Senior Trip. (Hey, it's been >4 yrs!)
- Chad, who didn't go to that one.
I_Am_The_Archon@Doom!.com (Len Pitre) wrote:
Almost sounds like any number of band trips I made in HS/College. ;-) And people thought we were dorky-- ha! It was all a cover... ;-)
rich. who has foggy memories of some great times in strange places at late hours.
Max: We're criminales!
did you get this three day sermon on the perils of hell causing you to repent what sins you had committed into a life of extreme devotion? (until you abandoned the whole thing and became an artist and moved to France, that is). Wait, no, that's someone else.
Dagny
http://members.aol.com/Eccles9697
"And the people bowed and prayed to the neon god they made... and the sign said the words of the prophets are written on the subway walls and tenement halls and whispered in the sounds of silence" Paul Simon
Dagny Scott wrote:
ROTFLWNR! Even though I don't get quite *who* that "someone else" is.
Anyways, no, we didn't get the "fire and brimstone" speeches at school, neither grade nor high school. Although there was this religion teacher I had one time in grade school who told us only certain people were "true" Catholics and started eliminating people from this classification by having us raise our hands in response to our own personal opinions on things. Veddy strange.
I've wanted to say this for quite some time...there's this other 19-year-old I know online named Katy who quotes this quite regularly, except she does it as if she was EXTREMELY hyper and/or drugged up on some *serious* caffeine-like thing. Can't tell you how exactly she does it, but it's, um, interesting.
Diane
On Mon, 20 Sep 1999 21:25:09 -0500, Hallucinating Elvis Lady wrote:
Reminds me of what one of our English teachers used to do. He'd pose a difficult question and after a student had answered it, he'd say something like "everyone who agrees, stand up" and then it was either "Look, these are the idiots." or "Look, these are the smart kids". This was the same teacher who used to have this killer question in his tests: Translate "Er haette sein Auto von ihm reparieren lassen muessen". The correct answer is "He would have had to have his car repaired by him" but not many got it right. I don't know how often we have repeated "if-clauses". It was like "Well class, I don't know what to do today. Ah! Let's do if-clauses." If-clauses and tenses: the left and the right hand of the antichrist :-) MSB
Matthias Benkmann wrote:
Isn't English supposed to be a bitch to learn? With all the rules and exceptions to rules and all? I do pity those people who have to learn English because you guys go through so much in order to learn the language. Wish it could be an easier experience. But you *are* a great communicator...you do so much better than some native speakers. And for that I must congratulate you.
Diane
On Tue, 21 Sep 1999 13:50:41 -0500, Hallucinating Elvis Lady wrote:
<big smile from ear to ear> Thanks a lot. And I owe it all to Sierra and LucasArts. Without their adventures I doubt I would have had the motivation to dig so deep into the language. It is such a pity that nowadays all the games are translated. Kids lose an important opportunity to learn a language with something they like (unless the parents order the English version over the Net for X-mas). Well, maybe the Internet is an even bigger incentive for learning English. At least until the AltaVista babelfish produces better results than a monkey tap-dancing on a typewriter. MSB
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English is such a crazy quilt of exceptions because it's a composite language. And it's extensible. Especially American English. There's no foreign word that we won't consider adding to the language. And then there are the local "foreign" languages, ie., indian languages. A great many place names in the U.S. are derived from indian names, like Tennessee. But at least we don't have to worry about gender. That's what always gave me problems with Latin, the only other language I've studied. (Mostly what gave me problems is that I didn't study.)
On the mountaintop, "R. K. Henry" spake thusly:
Uggggh... gender. And what psychotic trick of language gives gender to inanimate objects?! How are you supposed to know?! ARRGH!!
-Mindy Who by the way remembers very little Latin vocab from two months ago, but *still* catches herself going over "hic, haec, hoc" and her declensions while she's got spare time
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actually words have gender. People, despite what you may here, do not have gender. People have sex. Although that's become a moot point being made more so by internet filters that won't let us on Science Olympiad site because their nondescrimination statement says "sex". Of course they also don't let you look up the counties in New Jersey (Essex, Sussex, Middlesex... I think. God, why do I know that?)
Dagny
http://members.aol.com/Eccles9697
"And the people bowed and prayed to the neon god they made... and the sign said the words of the prophets are written on the subway walls and tenement halls and whispered in the sounds of silence" Paul Simon
Dagny said:
Ooh, such a dirty non-discrimination statement ;-)
Have you been looking at obscene counties? What WOULD your mother think?
Sincerely Yours, Jordan
"Man, as we know him, is a poor creature; but he is halfway between an ape and a god and he is travelling in the right direction." (Dean William R. Inge)
Is it true that AOL's filters block email to/from/about Scunthorpe? Apparently they had the cheek to tell people to respell it "Sconthorpe" if they wanted their messages delivered, but I was never quite sure if it might just be a UL, as I'm not aware of any ISP's who censor email for content other than spam. Maybe it was in the AOL email client though - I here that Outlook Express bins any message with "$quot; or more than one exclamation mark in the subject line, on the assumption that it's spam.
However I can well believe net-nanny type programs blocking Scunthorpe websites if they're dumb enough to block Sussex etc. Incidentally, Essex, Sussex and Middlesex are in South East England. If you'd ever met an "Essex girl" you'd realise that blocking access to Essex is for the best really.
-Shez.
On Sat, 25 Sep 1999 00:50:29 +0100, Shez wrote:
What part of the UK are _you_ from? MSB
Yes. Well our people in the East stole all their names from you, anyway. Here we steal them from the natives (Michigan= Big Lake, Native American). And Ottawa County obviously is after the tribe, altough Kent seems English.
Dagny
http://members.aol.com/Eccles9697
"And the people bowed and prayed to the neon god they made... and the sign said the words of the prophets are written on the subway walls and tenement halls and whispered in the sounds of silence" Paul Simon
Yes it's another county in South East England, although it might also be derived from the surname of Superman's alter ego.
I discovered recently that Batman was actually pinched from a British film (at least I think it was British, that's the impression I got from the news report, though I might be mistaken.) Anyhow, Bob Kane pinched the idea for Batman from this 1930 film called "The Bat Whispers", about a master criminal who wore a bat costume. It's just been re- released here, and is supposed to be very creepy.
-Shez.
In article , [email] (Dagny Scott) writes:
Yes, New Jersey, as one of the first states, does get alot of names from England but we also have a bunch of Indian-named towns (Pennsauken, Manahawkin, etc.). Then we have our really creative names like Ocean County and Atlantic City...
Marie
"Life cannot defeat a writer who is in love with writing - for life itself is a writer's love until death." -Edna Ferber
Marie said:
I wonder if anyone can figure out where THESE places are located?
Sincerely Yours, Jordan
"Man, as we know him, is a poor creature; but he is halfway between an ape and a god and he is travelling in the right direction." (Dean William R. Inge)
On 24 Sep 1999 22:50:26 GMT, [email] (Dagny Scott) wrote:
And I bet many little girls (whose parents use filters) have already wondered why there are so few websites that deal with cats. MSB
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how about "Intercourse, PA?
Alley has like a mug from there that says "I love Intercourse"
Dagny
http://members.aol.com/Eccles9697
"And the people bowed and prayed to the neon god they made... and the sign said the words of the prophets are written on the subway walls and tenement halls and whispered in the sounds of silence" Paul Simon
I thought that was the dative case... oh, no, that's in learning German.
Dagny
http://members.aol.com/Eccles9697
"And the people bowed and prayed to the neon god they made... and the sign said the words of the prophets are written on the subway walls and tenement halls and whispered in the sounds of silence" Paul Simon
On 21 Sep 1999 21:18:50 GMT, [email] (Dagny Scott) wrote:
"Toetet dem Dativ!"
For those who don't know enough German to understand this joke. It translates to "Kill the Dativ!" but the "the" here would have to be Akkusativ case, i.e. "Toetet DEN Dativ!" would be correct. It is a sad fact that many Germans can't tell the 2 apart. And I don't even want to mention the Genitiv. Only a few intellectuals are keeping that one alive. And speaking of dead grammar, Konjunktiv is another one of those constructs that only a few members of Mensa can still use correctly. For those who care, the "waere" in "Wenn ich du waere" is Konjunktiv. In fact the English language has a last trace of Konjunktiv in this phrase ("If I WERE you"), too. But nowadays most people use the "wuerde"+verb ("would"+verb) construction instead of Konjunktiv, like "wuerde sein" ("would be") versus "waere" ("were").
And how's the -ly doing in UK and US? I don't pay much attention to it but I read somewhere that adverbs are dying. People supposedly say "The door opens quick" instead of "...opens quickly". MSB
p.s.: My observation is that the thing most foreigners mess up when speaking German are the different genders of the words. For instance "the" can translate to "der" (male), "die" (female) oder "das" (neutral) depending on what word it refers to. Unfortunately it's very often counterintuitive, like in "der Busen" ("the female breast"), "das Maedchen" ("the girl") and "die Prostata" ("the prostate"). This means boobs are male, girls are neutral and the prostate is female. Hmm, as I think of it, it makes a certain sense from a male perspective. Boobs are good, so they must be male, girls are just things you use so they get neutral and the prostate can cause you a lot of trouble so it must be female :-)