I don't really post a lot of stuff in hear, but I read quite a bit. Anyway, I was just curious what kind of ideas you guys had for new Daria episodes for future seasons. I'm not asking for fanfics...I just want to know where you think Daria still has room to go in the future. They've already done so much... family camping trip school fundraising fair alternapalooza Jake's heart attack Daria in the hospital bridesmaid jail Jane will be having a boyfriend soon... etc. etc. etc. What else is there for Daria to do? Think about it.
New Episodes....
Aug 10, 1999, 10:59 PM ET122 posts by 35 posters
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Hmmm, how about Daria becoming the 5th member of Mystic Spiral (We don't really know if she can sing, but then, we didn't think Daria would dress like Quinn, so anything can happen.)
Daria could go to wherever Jake works on career day.
Quinn could decide to take the role of Fashion Club president.
The list goes on and on.
In article , "The Outsider" wrote:
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Nah...Daria wouldn't sing. She could play her flute! I know she hates it, but if Trent asked her really nicely.... or she could just be a lyricist.
Violator's Toad wrote in message news:7osf22$k85$[email]...
Harmonica might be more likely.
In article , "R. K. Henry" wrote:
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Daria: The AMAZING One Woman Band! She does it all, folks...harmonica, flute, accordion, xylophone, kazoo, trombone, gong, and cymbals all at once! You must see this to believe it! :)
No NO NO! Her harmonica! She could play the harmonica!
Bob Ohler said:
Yeah. Actually when the previous poster mentioned Trent asking Daria to play the "flute" and stated that Daria would do this if Trent asked her, I blinked a couple of times and wondered if this was all a dirty joke. Or do you guys not realize what "play the flute" is a euphemism for?
Now Dagny's gonna accuse me of having a dirty mind ... ;-)
Sincerely Yours, Jordan
"Man is a god in ruins" (Ralph Waldo Emerson)
On 12 Aug 1999 14:26:38 GMT, [email] (Jordan S. Bassior) wrote:
(Ducks as large figurative objects go roaring over the unsuspecting sentient being's dorsal surface)
Huh? Guess I don't know what the euphemism's for...I've never heard it :p
Damon Orca on #Stars!
On Thu, 12 Aug 1999 18:19:24 GMT, [email] (Damon Domjan) wrote:
Think Bill Clinton and Monica Lewinsky. :-)
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http://www.lawndale.net -OR- http://systech.simplenet.com/daria/dude I've done that before... although "playing the flute" is even worse than the names of our Cheap Fast Food Places Alley thought were sick (Get 'em 'n Go, Hot 'n Now)
Dagny
http://members.aol.com/Eccles9697
"I'm not different for the sake of being different, only for the desperate sake of being myself. I can't join your gang: you'd think I was a phoney and I'd know it." Vivian Stanshall
Dagny Scott wrote:
I think the all-time worst name for a burger joint has to be the one located in Pacheco, CA named "Run, Burger, Run". And if that's not bad enough, a caption below the sign says "Fine Automotive Dining". I am *not* making this up!
MIKE (a.k.a. "Progbear")
make GEORYN disappear to reply
"'Thin Thighs For Your Man.' But I don't *like* men with thin thighs" --Daria
N.P.:nothing
[email] (Rat Korga) wrote:
Hey, I remember Hot 'n Now -- it was actually WORSE than Krystal. (Which was infamous for having a disembodied head serve as its pitch-head (can't call it a pitchman, now, can we?) with the awful suggestion to "Head to Krystal.") :P
You know, the phrase "Run, Burger, Run" brings up all sorts of unpleasant ideas, not the least of which is, "Run with what?" *Shudder*
rich.
"The robot took my sandwich!" --Chester
RIch said:
Wow ... if you made a night of it by eating out at Krystal, would that be a ... never mind ...
Or, rather, what would be running?
Sincerely Yours, Jordan
"Man is a god in ruins" (Ralph Waldo Emerson)
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wicka_chick
How are these ideas?
- Daria in a Talent Show
- Daria gets a makeover (gotta happen sometime).
- Daria and Quinn in a cult.
- Daria on a blind date
- Daria starts her own band.
What else?What else?What else? Oh yeah,
6 )Daria finds her life the subject of a cartoon.
How's That?
Jeff Morris
what would she do? I can't see her singing or dancing. and our talent shows just SUCK because my sophomore year it became "The Justin Johnson talent show" all revolving around this one stupid kid
done that. Quinn the Brain.
touched upon...
done. New Kid.
has promise.
that's just waay postmodern or something
Dagny
http://members.aol.com/Eccles9697
"I'm not different for the sake of being different, only for the desperate sake of being myself. I can't join your gang: you'd think I was a phoney and I'd know it." Vivian Stanshall
I could see number 6 happening. Perhaps Val, as in "Val," moves into the television division and has her minions create a series based on her ultimately disturbing visit to Lawndale.
The following is a Season Three SPOILER for "Just Add Water." If you have not seen this episode yet, proceed at your own risk.
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After watching "Just Add Water," I think it's time that Glenn & Susie & crew did an entire season of shows that revolve around Helen and Jake separating. It doesn't have to end in divorce, but I think their marriage is at a definite breaking point. (BTW, are their any single-parent households in Lawndale?)
And, I am disappointed in JAW. There was a promising plotline about Mr. DeMartino's gambling problem, but then it just deteriorated into a bunch of silly power plays between: 1) Helen & Jake; 2) Helen & Ms. Li; and 3) Quinn & Sandi. Those 3 situations are becoming tiresome & I'd like to see an all-out confrontation in each of these conflicts. (They all have to come to a head sooner or later.)
Also, this episode was along the same lines as "Fair Enough," where Ms. Li orders mandatory participation in a fund-raiser. It also had echoes of "The Daria Hunter," where all the teachers (except Ms DeFoe, for some reason) were required to participate. These 2 episodes only prove that you cannot have mandatory fun. I certainly didn't enjoy those two episodes, and before tonight they were my least favorite. After tonight, however, there's no doubt: JAW is my least favorite of the 38 epsodes aired thus far. This one will NOT be rewound anytime soon, and it will be the only other episode (along with "The New Kid") that I will NOT have a backup copy of. On a scale of 1 to 10, this gets a .5.
And while I was glad Ms. Barch threw that tramp DeeDee overboard, there was that Titanic thing - - aaaaagh!!!! No mas! NO MAS!!!!
One final note: for those who may have read my first version of this message before I had a chance to delete it, I apologize for not including the spoiler. I'm still new to this NG, and I don't normally post comments about an episode on Wednesday night, I usually wait until the weekend after I've seen it few times. But I was so IRKED about JAW, I felt I had to get this off my chest now. I mean, I was so pissed, I didn't even care that they talked over the closing credits (AGAIN!!! THOSE __IDIOTS__!) -- and I LIKE "The Gambler!" How DARE they talk over Kenny Rogers! No chicken for THEM!!!
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This is my first post to Alt.tv.daria! Wahoo! Okie doke, just some spoiler space for "Just Add Water"..
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It's really unfortunate that my break from lurkdom is a post on how disappointed I was with this episode. In the seasons that I have been graced with Daria's presence, there has not been an episode that didn't get a guffaw, snicker, or chortle out of me. Tonight was the first time that I honestly hated an episode. When I first saw the preview, I thought it might be some pseudo-"Titanic" spoof. The idea of a cruise ship intrigued me and piqued my interest. But oh, what a horrible mess the episode turned out to be. In the beginning it was really slow, the beginning without its usual wit. The scene with Quinn and Marco was only slightly interesting, but it had a taste of "It's been done", like the scene in the bathroom with Sandi baiting Quinn YET AGAIN....the scenes between Helen and Jake had none of the usual amusing barbs, and just seemed tired. The fact that Daria and Jane slept through the whole episode was extremely disappointing. The show's name is "DARIA" not "The Jake/Helen/Quinn/Sandi/& co Spin-Off Showcase" The scene with Deedee and Mr. O'Neil on the bow was hilarious, but then Ms. Barch asking Mr. O'Neill to REPEAT the same action was boring and unamusing. Not even Kevin and Brittney's stupidity could save this episode. All in all, I felt this episode offended my intelligence. Sorry for the long rant ;-)
JoJo aka Athena :-) "I'm not allowed to go in the deep end. That's where I saw the leprechaun. He told me to burn things!"-Ralph Wiggum "I can be jello"-My Best Friend's Wedding Remove "booger" to e-mail me :-)
JoJo wrote:
Well, welcome along. (waiting for Kyle's usual introduction)
Well, I guess it's a good idea then that while that ep was airing I wasn't watching it, rather I was online conversing with someone and hearing out someone else's relationship woes, all via ICQ. Such a pity it had to be that bad, though. Maybe they'll redeem themselves with the new ep for next week. I know that I will still watch the reairing of this ep, though. Just to get my own opinion of the whole deal.
Diane
After watching "Just Add Water," I'm ready to see Helen and Jake separate -- not necessarily divorce, but I think you could build an entire season of episodes around their trial separation.
And, I am disappointed in JAW. They had a good plotline going with DeMartino's gambling addiction -- but then it just deteriorated into a bunch of power plays: between Helen & Jake, Helen & Ms. Li, Quinn & Sandi, and even Janet & DeeDee (I AM glad she threw her overboard, but that Titanic thing -- aaaaagh!!!! No mas! NO MAS!!!!)
This has been my least favorite episode overall -- worse than the disjointed "Fair Enough." I doubt I'll be rewinding this episode.
Cricket
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That last one is a little far-fetched...:)
wicka_chick
JMorris830 wrote:
How about if another girl (or how about a boy) came to Lawndale High who had the same attitude and outlook on life as Daria. Two things could happen:
1. They could initially like each other, but soon become sick of each other's company because they can't stand the attitude.
2. Daria suddenly gets an inkling as to how other people see her because she's seeing the same thing in the new person. This might snap her into a completely "normal" attitude, and then she might slip back or people might even _ask_ her to go back to her normal ways.
Bill.
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Run screaming down the street while destroying mad mutant cows and pilaging farms!!!
You know, the usual teenage shennanigans.
running screaming down the street while destroying mad mutant cows and pilaging farms,
wicka_chick
[email] wrote in message ...
Wouldn't the same satisfaction be attained through a session of Doom?
In article , "The Outsider" wrote:
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Nuh-uh... Quake won't work either.
Virtual carnage just isn't the same as actually throwing an eviscerated pigeon into the face of a five-year-old.
The Outsider wrote:
Actually, Hexen and Heretic might be better, because they have small farm animals (pigs and chickens, respectively). Nothing like taking the Mace of Contrition and hammering an innocent animal's head in with it.:)
Len
Len Pitre wrote:
??????????
(Explanation: I'm not a gamer. I've never really had an affinity for video games. You could just e-mail me an explanation....)
Diane
Sorry, I forget that I'm not in alt.games.doom at times.:) This probably went over several heads because not everyone here is a gamer (my fault). Heretic and Hexen are games based on the Doom engine, both in the sword-and-sorcery vein instead of the technobase-and-hell style of Doom. Heretic has a magical artifact (the Morph Ovum) that can turn monsters into easy-to-kill chickens. Hexen (made by the same company) has an artifact called the "Porkalator" that turns monsters into easy-to-kill pigs. The Mace of Contrition is one of the weapons in Hexen, just a simple spiked-ball at the end of a wooden handle. Highly entertaining when used to club small animals, if you're in to that kind of thing.:)
Len
[email] (Len Pitre) wrote:
You mean like "Frog Baseball?" Beavis, you're a sick one. ;-)
rich.
Daria: He said master *painters.*
Sort of like frog baseball, though the frog in B&B never turned into a slavering two headed monster intent on ripping Butthead's arm off and clubbing Beavis over the head with it. Which isn't to say the show would have been worse off if it did....:)
Len
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Stop me if you've heard these before...
"Revenge" - Quinn humiliates Daria by taking her bra to school and waving it about in class. Daria decides it's time to return to being an only child and plots to murder her with Jane's somewhat reluctant help.
"School Picture" - A year on from when her parents complained about her dowdy school pictures in a "The Misery Chick", Daria decides that this year she will wear something outrageous. Quinn overhears her scheming about outfits with Jane and tell Helen who forbids Daria to wear anything bizarre. Helen is shocked to realise this edict contained a loophole when she gets a phone call from Miss Li telling her there's a rumour going round school that Daria intends to have her school picture taken in the nude!
"No TV" - Having learned none of the lessons from "The Big House", Helen decides all this watching of junk TV like "Sick Sad World" is preventing them from spending quality time together, and bans all TV watching by having their cable connection cut. Desperate to see SSW, Daria tried to get round it by rigging up a makeshift satellite feed.
"CNN" - Daria discovers that before she was a lawyer, Helen was part of a successful student dance troupe. One of Helen's old troupe members is raking it in as a dancer, and when she comes to town Helen discovers that she's using *her* old routines! Will Helen litigate? Or will she be inspired to return to dancing herself? Daria tries to stop the family's breadwinner from foolishly cashing in her career...
Well that's all for now...
-Shez.
Shez wrote:
Oh *damn*, now you've got that song stuck in my head! "Oh stop me, oh my heart stop me, stop me if you think that you've heard this one before...nothing's changed, I still love you, oh I still love you, only slightly, only slightly less than I used to, my love". Da na na na na na na na na na na na na na! (imagine the guitar line immediately following the chorus)
She who's going off to bed,
Diane
Diane Aguilar of Diane Aguilar Stylistics writes:
Actually I thought it went "na na na na - na-na na na na na"
I have the lyrics somewhere which explain what "na na" means...
-Shez.
Me too.
Lincoln Logs, Picasso, the ocean when it's green, cross-eyed cats, mud, movies where people are insane, things I know a lot about and things I can't explain.
Erin
Erin of Hell in a Handbasket writes:
I was thinking more along the lines of
Down my block There's a tragic girl She sees a big black hole I see a magic world Full of stars and moons Full of velvet skies These are my lucky charms They help me get by
But maybe that's just the eclipse that's been affecting me. Anyway, I don't even know what a Lincoln Log is.
-Shez.
It's a distinct possibility.
A Lincoln Log is a small wooden log toy. You use them to make toy log cabins. I suppose they are named after President Lincoln, since he was supposed to have been born in a log cabin.
Erin
On the mountaintop, Shez spake thusly:
<snip>
You've been watching too much "Clarissa Explains it All."
-Mindy
"Well bust my legs and call me shorty." -Daria Morgendorffer, "Daria"
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On Thu, 12 Aug 1999 15:42:16 +0100, Shez wrote:
First, I want to say that I don't see why Daria should feel humiliated by that. She obviously doesn't care about looking especially feminine. Secondly, I could imagine Daria refusing to wear a bra, at all. Unless you are into sports or have a lot to carry like Brittany, isn't wearing a bra something girls do just for feeling more woman-like. MSB (praying that he has not put his hand into a bee-hive)
In "Quinn the Brain", I think it was pretty well established that Daria does have an, um, womanly figure. She just chooses to cover it up (well, except for her knees).
Sincerely Yours, Jordan
"Man is a god in ruins" (Ralph Waldo Emerson)
Jordan S. Bassior of AOL http://www.aol.com writes:
One word - padding.
On Sat, 14 Aug 1999 14:07:41 +0100, Shez wrote:
Four words: You are an asshole. MSB
On Sun, 15 Aug 1999 18:23:29 GMT, [email] (Matthias Benkmann) wrote:
It has occurred to me that my above post might be misinterpreted. It's only to easy to forget that Usenet is not a live medium. Things escalate very easily. So I want to clarify that the above statement was just a spontaneous emotional reaction. I don't want to start a flame war. I don't want to create personal hostilities between me and Shez. I like him, he's a nice guy. It's just that I have very affectionate feelings for Daria (maybe you've read that poem in another message of mine) and when I read Shez' comment I felt like he was insulting my sister right in my face. Maybe it was an overreaction. If it ever happens again, please remember, I am a bit touchy when someone's insulting my beloved Daria. OK, I just hope this message reaches the group in time to prevent the worst. MSB
p.s.: And don't misinterpret this message. I am NOT apologizing for airing my feelings.
Mr. O'Neill - That feels good doesn't it. You have every right to feel angry and to express that anger.
Shez wrote:
Try again....
One need look no further than "The Teachings of Don Jake" to see further evidence that she DOES have a shape. Specifically, inside the tent shared by Daria and Quinn when Helen rouses them from sleep; as she sits up in her sleeping bag, the camera angle leaves no doubts about her shape.
I mean, WHY would she wear padding just to go to sleep??
Marty (who REALLY needs to get a life) Skywarn Storm Spotter KCB009
He said master *painters*. - Daria (from B&B days)
William Fowler of Underground Bummer Culture writes:
For some unaccountable reason I don't feel the urge to dig out my tape of don Jake just to check out Daria's boobs.
-Shez.
Shez wrote in message news:[email]...
Daria and
bag,
There are several episodes that reveal that Daria does in fact have boobs"
"Road Worrier" "The Teachings of Don Jake" "Quinn the Brain" "I Don't" "Monster" (may not count since it's a dream sequence) "Ill"
There may be more in the newer episodes. I'll have to check again.
Boobs or not, any time is a good time to dig out the Daria tapes and play them. We'll undoubtedly be doing quite a bit of that in the months to come.
On Wed, 18 Aug 1999 18:25:50 -0400, "R. K. Henry" wrote:
Where? I've rewatched it just recently and I don't recall any such scene?
This reminds me. Why did that asshole of a tailor screw up Daria's dress on purpose? Any theories? MSB
I think there are some people who just won't look good in formal dresses, especially of certain styles. The tailor may not have had much incentive to make it fit with Daria because it was clear Daria did not particularly care about the dress or fashion or any of the things her work revolved around. What is more, Daria's low pain tolerance and Jane's wisecracks would give the tailor more reason to feel antagonized.
Dagny
http://members.aol.com/Eccles9697
"I'm not different for the sake of being different, only for the desperate sake of being myself. I can't join your gang: you'd think I was a phoney and I'd know it." Vivian Stanshall
[email] (Dagny Scott) wrote:
Fortunately for us guys, there are tuxedoes... even the worst-looking guy looks decent in a good tuxedo.
Now, if only someone could make those damn tux shoes comfortable, the battle would be won...
rich. (who does look smashing in a tux, if I do say so myself.) Helen: Bureaucracy is the price we pay for impartiality.
Jake: Jefferson!
Helen: Stalin.
paperpusher wrote in message news:[email]...
Tux. Yep, been there, done that, got the T-shirt. BTW, did anyone notice Kevin's T-shirt in "Just Add Water"?
yeah, and you can get black gloves to go with it and strangle people without leaving prints... err... I didn't say that. ;)
Although I ahave to agree even my father doesn't look half bad when he's in his tux
Dagny
http://members.aol.com/Eccles9697
"I'm not different for the sake of being different, only for the desperate sake of being myself. I can't join your gang: you'd think I was a phoney and I'd know it." Vivian Stanshall
And people ask why us guys aren't going out with the girls on atd! Fact is they're a bunch of psychos, Hitchcockianly speaking. (Except for Jessica, who keeps a parrot.)
-Shez.
Shez wrote in message news:[email]...
without
Actually, they're the most interesting kind. There are several I'd consider if it weren't for the age disparity.
Did I say they weren't interesting? I was merely observing that they're all psychos.
-Shez.
And that's a bad thing because...? :)
[email] of Old Goat Happy Farm writes:
Ask Monica Seles! Whoops sorry, wrong newsgroup!
-Shez.
"R. K. Henry" wrote:
Amen to that brother! I've found that it helps when reading this group to keep muttering "jailbait, jailbait, jailbait" over and over. ;)
[email] of Old Goat Happy Farm writes:
Not in the UK they wouldn't be. Except for Mindy, who is perhaps more jailfodder than jailbait anyhow.
-Shez.
On Sat, 21 Aug 1999 18:47:41 +0100, Shez wrote:
OK, I have to ask now. What's the term "jailbait" supposed to mean? Prisons don't swim and even they could, they'd be too heavy for the fishing rod. MSB
It's a person who's below the age of consent. I think the term comes from the idea that if you are lured into having sex with them, you end up in jail. In other words they can be used as bait for entrapment.
-Shez.
Shez said:
A variant of the old "badger game". The really evil thing about the statutory rape laws is that they are almost invariably enforced maliciously, and often against the real interests or desires of the younger member of the couple.
Sincerely Yours, Jordan
"Man is a god in ruins" (Ralph Waldo Emerson)
statutory
often
my personal favorite is when someone tries for statutory, then when they learn the couple NEVER HAD SEX change the charge to child molestation!!
Guys, if their under the legal age DON'T touch 'em!!!
Bob Ohler said:
Actually, the reason I said that the law is only enforced "maliciously" is that it is virtually impossible to secure a conviction unless the young "victim" testifies (which she usually will only if there's already been a quarrel or if it was a set-up from the beginning).
This was demonstrated a few years back when a (male) New York City schoolteacher took his 15 year-old student on a cross-country trip, without the permission of her family (said family having previously connived at her GENUINE rape by an uncle). The panicked law enforcement agencies swung into gear, and it was noised about that he would probably murder her and leave her in a shallow grave. Mass hysteria.
The law finally caught up with them after he'd horribly abused her by taking her to one of the Disney parks, the Grand Canyon, and several other places. They may have been lovers at that point; one would imagine so but we'll never know for sure.
The reason? The girl, being no fool, absolutely refused to cooperate with her rotten family and betray her lover. Instead, she maintained that she'd lied to the teacher and said that her family was ok with the trip; she further maintained that he had not so much as kissed her improperly.
The stymied law enforcement agencies briefly attempted a perse ... I mean PROSECUTION of the teacher, but backed down in light of the fact that they wouldn't have been able to find a jury in the land willing to convict the teacher of anything other than excessive niceness. Last I heard the girl was living with the teacher (having reached age of consent in the meantime, and probably blackmailed her family with the threat to prosecute the UNCLE), and they were considering marriage.
I do not know what happened after that.
Sincerely Yours, Jordan
"Man is a god in ruins" (Ralph Waldo Emerson)
Taking people to a Disney park certainly qualifies as child abuse, they should have thrown the book at him!
I general teachers who date pupils can expect the sack, which is not really surprising, as they're supposed to be there to educate their students, not get off with them. Children often get crushes on teachers and teachers are expected not to take advantage of the position of trust they're in. Certainly in the UK teachers are sacked for this sort of thing.
The government even want to bring in a law making it illegal for teachers to have sex with a student even if the student is over the age of consent. I think this is going way too far, it's one thing for a teacher to lose their job over an illicit romance, it's quite another to send them to jail for having sex with someone who is legally a consenting adult. It's notable that no parallel law is being proposed to protect teenagers in the workplace from predatory managers, yet this is almost certainly a much more serious problem, as there will often be an element of coercion involved, ie. "have sex with me or I'll sack you / block your promotion / give you all the shit jobs to do".
-Shez.
Hey, I happen to be legal in all states, countries, and territories thereof. Ah, to be 21...what a life. And I happen to be sort of look-at-able...ask MSB, he's seen my pic. <grin>
Jess "Morgendorfer" [email]
Daria: "NOW do you think I'm timid?"
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Ah, to be young & single again! (ducks under flying objects) <Jake Voice> Just kiddin' honey!</Jake voice>
On 23 Aug 1999 22:30:23 GMT, [email] (Jessica M. Slover) wrote:
And she has a lovely voice, too :-) MSB
p.s.: Jess, you are an optimist. When I reached 21, the only thing I could think of was that from that day I would be tried as an adult in court.
Shez wrote in message news:[email]...
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I disagree! The only one of the Disney parks I've been to (several times), Walt Disney World in Florida, is a very pleasant place and I had a wonderful time, even the time it rained (Though the time they had forest fires in central Florida it wasn't as nice with all the smoke. That trip prompted me to get the instrument rating.) I'd recommend WDW to anyone of any age. Not just for kids, I understand it's a top ranking honeymoon destination. The only reason I haven't gone back lately is that they've raised prices beyond my limit.
Paperpusher said:
He did. I just didn't go into that aspect of the case.
Of course, in real life it's fairly common for college professors to marry students, especially grad students.
I wouldn't call what he did "preying" on the 15 year old. It amounted more to "rescuing" her, given the nature of her family.
Sincerely Yours, Jordan
"Man is a god in ruins" (Ralph Waldo Emerson)
On Tue, 24 Aug 1999 05:22:00 GMT, some letters randomly coalesced from individual pixels, claiming to be from [email] (paperpusher), and it said:
Right on, man!
(That qualifies as a "me too," doesn't it. Oh well, I'll just take the abuse from the net.cops. ;p
or even go near them. just stay inside your house alone and you should be safe. Oh, wait, then you'd never have an alibi. Damn. Well maybe just die. Then you should be safe from prosecution.
Dagny
http://members.aol.com/Eccles9697
"I'm not different for the sake of being different, only for the desperate sake of being myself. I can't join your gang: you'd think I was a phoney and I'd know it." Vivian Stanshall
It varies from state to state in the US but men can be convicted of statutory rape for having sex with girls below a certain age, girls below that age can be considered "jailbait". The age of consent varies between 16 and 18 years of age and convictions can also vary based on whether there was a significant age difference.
Dagny
http://members.aol.com/Eccles9697
"I'm not different for the sake of being different, only for the desperate sake of being myself. I can't join your gang: you'd think I was a phoney and I'd know it." Vivian Stanshall
[email] (Dagny Scott) wrote:
Don't think Women are immune either-- just ask Mary Kay Littorno, who had sex with her 15 year old male student, and is now sitting in prison.
rich.
Helen: Bureaucracy is the price we pay for impartiality.
Jake: Jefferson!
Helen: Stalin.
On the mountaintop, Shez spake thusly:
*Doesn't know whether to feel insulted or complimented*
-Mindy
wrote in message news:7plqhm$a90$[email]...
worst-looking
people
consider
;)
Thanks for that. At least I know I'm not the only one.
I got a private E-mail from Diane asking for a list. I'm still debating a response, I think she deserves a response but I'm not sure what it should be. I suppose there's the jailbait issue but I'm not intending to rape or molest anyone, especially people whom I never expect to actually meet, just express my heartfelt admiration to those I perceive as having a truly interesting female mind. A little avuncular encouragement. Is it wrong to tell a lady you have absolutely no interest in that you admire and respect her? Should she go get a court order or warmly bask in the realization that a total stranger finds her interesting? The interesting thing about meeting people in a forum like this one is that the attraction would be absolutely platonic and completely cerebral. I could simply satisfy Diane's curiosity privately--or tell her to mind her own business. Or hope that someone else in the group will help me out and chime in at just the right moment and not fade into the background. Any suggestions? Not from you Diane! I already know what your suggestion will be. <G>
I'm inclined to think this issue ought to be left lying as it is.
Dude, there was a reason I privately e-mailed you...because I knew it would be a sticky situation if names were revealed in public and I wanted to let you know that I myself was curious and wanted to have that satiated any which way I could, PRIVATELY. I wasn't going to tell anyone, believe me. What incentive would there be to do that? Besides, I've kept many secrets that have been told to me by some of my online friends.
So you can elicit any sort of responses you may from this, but remember, I would've preferred a privately mailed list if you were to do something like that. Let other curious folks e-mail you if they wish to.
(oh yeah, and I'm still holding fast to the belief that I would never be a part of such a list, nor would I have ever)
OK, off to Dallas!
Diane the extremely curious
In article , "R. K. Henry" wrote:
A list of what? I'm not sure what you're talking about and you caught me just as I was going out the door and on vacation.
As for meeting the fine people here, I'm up for it. I was the one who promised to buy the first round when we all meet in England for the showing of the last Daria ep. ever.
On Fri, 20 Aug 1999 14:40:28 -0400, "R. K. Henry" wrote:
Age is just a bad excuse for shyness. MSB
In article , "R. K. Henry" wrote:
or it might have something to do with the fact that us guys on alt.tv.daria keep talking about Daria's boobs. and the 'drought' has just begun! Gunna be a long fall/winter.
Posted via deja because ah forget it!
actually it's my boyfriend who's the psychotic with the black gloves...
Dagny
http://members.aol.com/Eccles9697
"I'm not different for the sake of being different, only for the desperate sake of being myself. I can't join your gang: you'd think I was a phoney and I'd know it." Vivian Stanshall
Hey, I'm a psycho! You have to be a bit off in the head to keep a parrot.
This morning, Blue saw fit to shriek at the top of his little birdie lungs at around 9:30. I'd gone to bed around 4-ish, so that wasn't cool. Even less pleased was my friend, who had stayed the night over. And yet I still think my parrot's cute. :-)
--Jess.
Jessica L. of EarthLink Network, Inc. writes:
I was thinking in terms of the Mark Twain quote, which implies parrot keepers are beyond classification.
I've just remembered that when I was little we had a budgie. I can't remember what happened to it. I think it was given to us by a neighbour, though I don't remember why.
I just found Twain is not in my spelling checker's dictionary. It suggested twin, twine, train or twat!
-Shez.
Dagny said:
ROFL! Be careful ... he might just do a DejaNews search on your screen name ;-)
Sincerely Yours, Jordan
"Man is a god in ruins" (Ralph Waldo Emerson)
no that's just you that does that he doesn't know what dejanews IS :)
Dagny
http://members.aol.com/Eccles9697
"I'm not different for the sake of being different, only for the desperate sake of being myself. I can't join your gang: you'd think I was a phoney and I'd know it." Vivian Stanshall
[email] (Dagny Scott) wrote:
It's okay-- I much prefer microfiber spectroscopy, anyway. ;-)
See? Told ya. It's the magic of the Tux... it's a powerful fashion totem-- it can even make parents look dignified. ;-)
rich.
Jane: Usually when I have this dream I'm wearing pink taffeta.
On Thu, 19 Aug 1999 20:53:04 GMT, [email] (paperpusher) wrote:
Resist, I say! Resist! Do not surrender to the pressure. MSB (who has already told the story about how he went to his graduation in street clothes even though he had to go on stage to be honored)
[email] (Matthias Benkmann) wrote:
Ha! I went to my HS graduation in a Tux-- I already owned one, and I had to perform in the choir, anyway. Everyone loved the way the bowtie stuck out from under the robes. ;-)
rich. (who dressed down for college and LS graduation, though... with the silliest of ties.)
Tiffany: "Oh, no. Wind, hair."
In article , [email] wrote:
Say, speaking of that, what was with those short-sleeve tuxes worn in JAW? I thought it was a joke when I saw Kevin wearing one, but then I spotted a few background characters with them, too. Is this something that's come about since prom of 1997? It looks pretty damn goofy.
--Tice
[email] wrote:
You're talking about the tuxedo t-shirt-- one of the stupidest-looking things ever to crawl out of a screen printing shop. Not even the stoners at my HS would wear them-- not even on a dare.
Guys have been wearing those dorky-looking things for years, and no, I don't know why. I'd bet that it's part of an inside joke over at MTV Animation. Too bad there's no-one who can come on to the NG and tell us what the deal is... oh, well, I guess it adds to the artistic mystery or whatever.
rich.
Daria: He said master *painters.*
Matthias Benkmann wrote in message news:[email]...
boobs"
When Daria is "peeing in the woods" and leaves the bushes to return to "The Tank," she trips and falls. While she's lying on the ground, picking herself up, you can glimpse just the merest hint of what appears to be a cleveage through a fold in her T-shirt. That could be just a random fold in the shirt but I don't think so. From just way the shirt drapes I think it actually suggests she has a shape.
Daria is certainly not as macromastic as Brittany but she's no sheet of plywood either.
Just revealing to the women what men think about, as if they didn't already know. <G>
Maybe not on purpose but I don't think she was really trying. Daria's shape isn't so extraordinary that any reasonably competent fitter shouldn't have been able to make the dress at least look like it fitted. I suspect that because Daria and Quinn were last-minute additions to the bridesmaids list there might have been some compromises made in the dresses.
"Stop staring at me you squirrel pervert!"
i was a bridesmaid once... the wedding was in greece, and i was only flying out from england 2 days beforehand, so they didn't know what size the dress should be... they figured the dress would be too small, so they made hasty alterations to make it larger... as it turned out the original size had been much too large... they did make it fit reasonably in the end though, iirc.
R. K. Henry said:
She has small to medium sized breasts which are rather widely separated rather than pointing forward. Her normal green jacket and loose shirts almost completely conceal them, and she doesn't do things like stretch backwards very much. Jane, on the other hand, is probably almost completely flat; she has a very boyish figure.
Sincerely Yours, Jordan
"Man is a god in ruins" (Ralph Waldo Emerson)
That's right, strictly speaking she's acetate.
-Shez.
I doubt it, surely they won't give her more than two?
Another thing people are overlooking is that since #109 she's had the use of those falsies that Dr. Shah gave her, which is probably why her bust seems to vary from one episode to another.
-Shez.
Yeah, but _Upchuck_ touched one of them. (eew!)
- Chad :)
On Wed, 18 Aug 1999 14:35:47 +0100, Shez wrote:
Now Shez, don't be shy, show yourself Daria's boobs ;p
Damon Orca on #Stars!
ha ha ha *cough cough cough* Good one, Damon.
Tren...er, I mean, Joe
On Wed, 18 Aug 1999 14:35:47 +0100, Shez wrote:
You should check your temperature. This might be something serious. MSB
p.s.: I've just checked. This scene in "Teachings" does show Daria in a more feminine way than we see her usually.
Matthias Benkmann of [posted via] Leibniz-
As we saw in ThrALnsDrkly she is not immune to feelings about how she looks. A lot of girls are self conscious about the size of their boobs, either too small or too big. If Quinn went to school waving a rather small size bra around, I can imagine Daria feeling humiliated.
In the English-speaking world bra wearing is the norm, unlike on mainland Europe where it seems to me most girls don't bother with them. (In fact when we were in Germany once we tried asking someone about the fact that none of the girls had bras on, but we were unable to make ourselves understood - people didn't even seem to know what a bra was! Our dictionary suggested "bustenhalter" but when we said it, Germans would just fall about laughing.)
But certainly in inhibited old Britain it's rare to find girls not wearing bras even if they don't need them. People are afraid the sight of nipples through thin blouses might frighten the horses don't you know old chap. And I believe this puritanism was also successfully exported to America on the Mayflower.
It's true though that a lot of independently minded girls like Daria tend to rebel against this and not wear bras if they don't physically need them - one of the fringe benefits of feminism and bra burning perhaps. I used to have a feminist girlfriend who never wore a bra unless she was going into hostile territory such as an engineering workshop, where being braless would almost certainly lead to getting sexually harassed.
-Shez.
On Sat, 14 Aug 1999 14:35:56 +0100, Shez wrote:
I'm a girl, and I don't give a rat's ass about the size of my boobs. Then again, maybe I'm in a minority.
*laugh* "bustenhalter"?? I don't speak German and even I find that hilarious :)
I beg to differ. Even though many of the women folk here wear bras, I've noticed many who don't. Some people *like* showing off their nipples. Of course, this is mostly limited to the younger population (Not all of the older women folk have bodies built like Tina Turner's), but you get my drift.
It's strange though, because I don't believe that girls who don't wear bras are necessarily hardcore feminists. Maybe they just, well, don't like wearing them. Bras can be uncomfortable to many people, and I guess if one chooses not to wear them, that's fine by me. I just wear 'em to feel "secure".
Whoever it was that asked what sort of topics do we normally talk about besides Daria, this particular thread is a prime example of my "anything and everything" theory :) Only an NG like this could chat about episode theories, Doom, flutes, and bras all in the same thread. And that's why I love this NG :)
"Why, Scarlett, you look lovelier by the day" "I *will* kill you."
Nicole Lee wrote:
I don't care about the size of mine, either. Unless Mom makes an uncomfortable remark about the supposed "largeness" of them. Then I feel *really* uncomfortable about them.
It does sound like something ridiculous, doesn't it? *guffaw*
I'm somewhat young-ish and I still can't walk around without wearing a bra. Haven't been able to since I was 13. For one thing, I think showing off nipples is disgusting and rather slut-like (like, here, see my boobs!). And another, thosee things can move about with reckless abandon if left uncontrolled...heck, I definitely don't want that...in fact, I make sure they're as tightly controlled as possible. Then again someone could mention something about my Puritanical nature and I'd have to roll myself up into a ball, knowing they're right....
Yeah. And the same logic can follow that "not all hardcore feminists go without wearing bras". I'm a hardcore feminist myself and I cannot live without bras. The whole "corset" idea is uncomfortable to me, and that's why I never would wear one, but bras are a different matter. Even wear them during bedtime, while I'm asleep.
LOL. Yes, exactly. I used to be a member of this one mailing list where anything went as far as discussion topics were concerned, but the person who ran the list got offline and discontinued the list. That's why I'm so accustomed to going offtopic and discussing generalities, because that's what we would do all the time. (And for good reason too...it was a list specifically designed for members of another mailing list, with rigid rules and regulations, as an escape from such restrictions.)
Brilliant quote! :)
Diane
[email] (Nicole Lee) wrote:
I do, and it's hysterical. I'm still chucking at that one.
You don't live in the South, do you? ;-) Here, that sort of thing just isn't done. The way I see it, if you've got it, flaunt it. But if you don't, please spare your fellow humans needless suffering. (That's why I don't take of my shirt and wander around-- the brilliant flash of whiteness would blind entire populations.) But what do I know? I was corrupted by those damn Puritans, too. (And don't even get me started about the Puritan "work ethic," which was basically, "Ask the Native Americans how they survive, then steal their land." Still works today-- just look at the mergers and acquisitions pages.)
It's just like the age old Q of boxers vs, briefs vs. nothing. I know some guys who refuse to wear underwear-- it has to do with some types of Army training, I've discovered. Then again, some of us prefer "tighty whities." Diff'rent strokes fer diff'rent folks.
And I've just added men's underwear, the Puritan work ethic, and Basic Training, too. ;-)
rich.
Brittany: Shut up, naked boy!
On Sun, 15 Aug 1999 07:45:01 GMT, [email] (paperpusher) wrote:
<MSB stands up, opens belt, removes jeans, removes underwear, puts on jeans again, feels uncomfortable and reverses the process> Wow, this is the first ng that made me drop my pants :-) About the underwear issue. I feel uncomfortable without it. And besides. If you don't wear any underwear wouldn't that force you change pants every day.
The only reason I could see for any guy to wear any kind of tight pants is to appear sexy to women (I don't know if it works, though). No one can tell me he feels comfortable in tight clothes. I always wear wide as wide can be. My selection of clothes is only based on comfort-evaluations. MSB
or perhaps said guy has gained weight and is too cheap and/or proud to buy new pants a size bigger. Not that I'm speaking from experience or anything.
[email] (Matthias Benkmann) wrote:
Well, yeah, but...
Somewhat Icky explanation follows...
Icky space
Icky space
Icky space
Ok, you've been warned...
Well, yeah. But as one of my friends' sergeants explained, in jungles and deserts, underwear presents a unique set of problems for the average grunt. Anything with an elastic band around your body (like the elastic in underwear-- or even the elastic in some socks), pinches the skin and allows blood to pool under the skin to some degree. This presents an ideal place for certain blood-consuming critters to attack. When they do, it can be rather painful. To drive his point home, the DI gave them the option of trading underwear with each other or going without. They all chose to go without-- it's easier to learn to cope in training than to suddenly have to switch gears in the field. And the last thing you want to have to deal with in the field are nasty little critters trying to make a lunch of your unmentionables.
Comfort is a slippery slope-- what's comfortable for me may not be comfortable for you. That said, I hate tight clothes with one exception-- let's just say that support can be a beautiful thing, especially when you're involved in martial arts training-- Bad Things can happen without adequate support. (And those compression pants are great under a gi-- they keep your hamstrings warm, too. Ah... nice.)
realizing i've probably said *way* too much, rich.
"Woooo, what a racket!" -- General Buck Conroy, Publisher, Brutal Mercenary Magazine.
On Mon, 16 Aug 1999 00:01:42 GMT, [email]
I hope you know that every additional degree of warmth decreases sperm count and quality and can cause impotence. MSB
[email] (Matthias Benkmann) wrote:
Yes, but the effects on sperm count are completely reversible by simply wearing silk boxers for 6 weeks or so. There's no lasting damage to the region. (And I'm not looking to add to the population of the world for at least the next 6 weeks.)
As for impotence, I don't believe I've ever seen a study correlating temporarily increased body heat in that region with permanent damage to the blood vessels in that area. If increased body temperature caused irreversible damage to blood vessels and their supporting structures, then I would think that many athletes would be dropping like flies. Needless to say, I haven't had any problems. (Besides, now that there's Viagra <TM>, who cares?) ;-)
rich.
Jane: All I want is to make beautiful things!
On Sun, 15 Aug 1999 18:23:52 GMT, [email] (Matthias Benkmann) wrote:
Sorry, but you are off on this one. I prefer briefs, and I can't envision any sort of circumstane where a girl will be seeing them with my consent over the next 3 to 5 years or so.
It's simply a matter of what you've grown up with.
Kyle The Manny Alexander of alt.sports.baseball.chicago-cubs
Ap D- T4 Ww Q++ Fn^FR O- Ow+OH+OO+Or+Od m- C--- MV! C5X F303 BB FCU! -DT--
On 16 Aug 1999 00:37:49 GMT, [email] (Kyle) wrote:
Briefs doesn't necessarily mean tight, does it? I don't wear boxers, either. MSB
In article ,
Well, although, according to Bart Simpson, going underpants-less allows for a certain feeling of freedom, the staggering possibilites of zipper mishaps will keep me a happy underwear custom for years to come.
Actually, I have what I feel is a good reason...I should be wearing size 36 pants, since those are the most comfortable, but since I'm currently stocked with only 34s that would force me to go SHOPPING FOR NEW PANTS. And to PAY FOR NEW PANTS. And personally, I'd rather deal with the brief uncomfortable feeling that comes with putting them on and waiting for them to stretch, than shell out the obscene amounts of money it takes for new ones. And if,somehow, any girls find me attractive as a result, hey, that's just a bonus.
--Tice Rust "Oh, ladieeeeeeezzzz!" --Upchuck, "Daria". "36...but 40 would be more comfortable." --customer, "Are You Being Served?"
On Thu, 19 Aug 1999 03:53:02 GMT, [email] wrote:
Ouch. You're reviving painful memories. MSB
In article ,
"bustenhalter" ? Hell, I just fell over laughing!
wicka_chick
On Sat, 14 Aug 1999 14:35:56 +0100, Shez wrote:
It's like saying "brassi�re" to an English speaker. "B�stenhalter" is usually abbreviated BH (pronounce "Beh Hah", the "a" is pronounced like in "party"). BTW, is it so hard to use the windows charmap program to insert the proper umlaut? I have to do it too, 'cause I have a Norwegian keyboard. And of course I do it for French (see bra above), too. And if you don't want to, at least for German there is always the possibility of transcribing u-umlaut as "ue". Especially the ignorance of most English native speakers (there are some authors that do care about it, though) towards accents in words imported from French is a mystery to me since they still seem to be part of the "official" (I know there isn't any) spelling. At least when I look into my all-English Oxford Advanced Learners Dictionary for the word "resume" (that is summary), I find the correct spelling "r�sum�". In this case the accents are very useful for distinguishing between "resume" (begin again) and "r�sum�" (summary). MSB
Matthias Benkmann o writes:
I don't have a German dictionary here so I didn't know I'd misspelt it. There's a problem with accented characters in usenet though that some older news servers eat them. With my previous service provider this would have resulted in the word being displayed "bstenhalter". In normal writing I'm careful to use accents where I know the word has them, but on usenet I tend not to as I don't know for sure how they will appear on other peoples newsreaders.
When it comes to everyday (non-net) usage, there is still a problem as Windows and DOS are dreadful for accented characters. "Upgrading" my computer to a 200MHz Windows PC from my old 4MHz Z80-based Amstrad word processor was actually a major step downwards in terms of being able to use the correct characters in my writing. My old Amstrad had all foreign accents and letters to hand either directly on the keyboard, or using intuitive or mnemonic keystrokes, but Windows is so bad that the easiest thing to do is to keep a printed table handy of the four-digit ALT codes, so for an e- acute you look it up on a sheet of paper and then type ALT-0233. This is easier than messing around cutting and pasting from Charmap, which like many Windows utilities is a diabolical program.
Just as bad is that most spelling checkers object when you spell a word correctly, ie. if you write "cafe" they accept it, but if you write "caf�" they say it's wrong. I have had to add such words to my custom dictionary, but this isn't always successful as the personal dictionaries on some types of software replace the accented characters with blobs or little squares. I think the blame for all this is with the legacy of ASCII, which was not designed to cope with a full character set. Software makers have been lazy and tried to change the spelling of the English language (and other languages) to force it to fit the limitations of early computers. It needn't have been this way, the British Amstrad computer, which used to be popular because it was the cheapest one available here, nevertheless gave you easy access to a full character set.
You know, I still find it easier and quicker to look up words in a (printed) dictionary or encyclopaedia on my desk than to use the ones on my computer! To use Encarta, I first have to insert the CD-ROM, and then... well by then I could have already looked it up in a book. And it's not that I'm resistant to new technology - I've been using computers for all my writing ever since leaving school (and we're talking quite a long time ago here! Before Apple purloined Xerox's idea of putting a graphic user interface on their computers anyhow).
-Shez.
well these are the same people who decided it would be so much easier to use a 2-digit code for the year instead of a 4-digit code. They assumed that by 2000 no one would still be using their OS anyway. Silly programmers!
Hmmm...I don't think Quinn would really be that mean-spirited towards Daria, especially after "Speedtrapped". Sandi might be cruel enough to do something along those lines, but I doubt it. As for the "padding" argument, she certainly has the means, courtesy of Dr. Sharr, but we don't know if she ever got them back from Upchuck, and judging from the sarcastic reaction to them (A la "Oh, she's got my number all right...just what I need..."), and the occasions when we've seen her out of her regular outfit, I'd guess they're not needed. Especially if Daria takes after Helen in appearance.
--Tice "Has she got anything on her?" "Nothing she could *shoot* you with..."
On Wed, 11 Aug 1999 02:43:53 GMT, Violator's Toad wrote:
At least one thing is obligatory at some point. The "Prom" episode. And then there is the completely absurd idea of Daria taking part in a student-exchange program (If any MTV guys are reading this, PLEASE DON'T send her to Paris, that's too clich�. It's always the Eiffel tower. I think BH90210 did Paris. Have her visit the Oktoberfest instead.). MSB
p.s.: Speaking of the Oktoberfest. Anybody here planning a trip to Munich in September (yes, the Oktoberfest starts in September, don't ask me why)? You could visit me. I could talk my parents into reviving our guest room (we used to house foreign students). Of course I'm thinking about getting a place to stay for a return visit to the US. My mom's told me many times I should take part in one of those exchange programs, but I shudder at the possibility of being put into a family without email and newsfeed.
You can come stay with me. I have both. <VBEG> (and if things work out, you can get your green card...) *wink*
Jess "Morgendorfer" [email]
Daria: "NOW do you think I'm timid?"
Daria code thingy A D+ T0 W1 Q+ FN^FR O+ Ow+OH+Os M+ C++ MV-- C5X F:308, 105, 210 BB+++ FCD -DT+ q+ fT
On Wed, 11 Aug 1999 02:43:53 GMT, Violator's Toad wrote:
I just thought about another thing. Daria could be kidnapped for ransom. I can imagine scenes like the following.
(kidnapper calls Morgendorffer's to present his demands) Quinn - Hello, Sandi. kidnapper- No, this is.. Quinn - Please call later, I'm waiting for an important phone call. Bye. kidnapper- But... (Quinn hangs up phone)
Maybe it could be achieved that no one in Daria's family actually gets to know she's been kidnapped. In the end the kidnappers would go crazy and let her go, just before Trent and Jane can start a crazy rescue-mission. MSB