One adjective: Disturbing. (Here there be s3 spoilers)

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Now that my central newvous system has recovered from seeing Daria! (The Musical), I thought I'd get on the Internet and register my disgust throughout the world. Since my brain is still reeling, I can't really string my thoughts into anything coherent, but here's a nifty little list!

1) What the hell is with Mack's voice?! It sounds like they got Barney to do it for a *really* big pay cut. Similar troubles with other voices, but much less pronounced than Mack's.

2) Daria is NOT a singer. Much as I know and love her voice, it was never meant for singing in anything remotely resembling a harmony. Brittany is even worse - her high-frequency voice is something more reminiscent of nails scraping down a chalkboard than a sound that could emerge from any human throat. Brittany and Daria in a duet is something that will hount my auditory nightmares for years.

3) Why is Helen so nice to Trent? With al the back story between those two, I'd think she'd be a wee bit less eager for his company.

4) Damnit, it's my turn to say damnit! (Sorry, with all the damnit's being exchanged between Jake and Trent, I felt the compulsion to say that.)

5) A few jokes about Brittany's breasts were okay, and kinda spicy. But can't you find something else to pick on? And watching her rearrange them was NOT the highlight of my evening. Too much is just that - too much. Same with the constant "sucking face" between Kevin and Brittany. This is getting to be too much like something you'd see on MTV <g>

6) Despite all the flaws with Daria! I do think it had its bright spots. I could have done without the singing, though <g> I'm not an enormous musical fan, and I wouldn't have watched this ep if not for my intense devotion to the Church of Daria. And I know this makes me sound like a 13-year-old girl, but Trent really does look cute in his underwear.

It's late. I have the flu. I think I'll go now before I faint.

-Mindy "Its the end of the world as we know it, and I feel like running like hell."

I was VERY pleasantly surprised, though at JANE'S singing voice. Not extremely stron, but she can carry a tune without needing a large basket.

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What back story is this? If I'm not mistaken, except for "Pierce Me" Trent had never called or visited Daria's house or spoken to Helen.

I knew someone would comment on this.

Jeg7777 wrote:

What I found more interesting about that scene was his phone. I didn't exactly have Trent filed in my mind as someone who would have one of those plastic duck phones that quack when they ring.

--J.

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I wondered about that, too, and also how Helen became so familiar with the Lane family history in general ("Are your parents there? Are they even in town?"). But remember, since this ep was originally the seventh in the season, perhaps something happens between Helen and Trent in one of the other season 3 eps that would explain it.

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Mindy wrote:

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I noticed that too, his voice *did* sound...well...weird.

Which...I guess...is why for most of the episode, her voice is locked in Rex Harrison sing-speak mode. Well, she was required to carry a tune for "They Must Be Worried", which she can kindasorta...not great singing, but not exactly Lee Marvin, either. ;-{)>

They have a back story? You've been reading one too many fanfics. %-{)>

You're excused.

I did enjoy it a lot more than I thought I would. It resembled an episode of the Simpsons more than Daria, at least to me. Tghe adjective I would have chosen: bizarre.

MIKE (a.k.a. "Progbear")

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On the mountaintop, [email] (Progbear) spake thusly:

Aack, you're right <g> During the off-season I bury myself in fanfic... I can safely say I have read every fanfic on Outpost Daria and the fanfic site, some multiple times (particuarly C. E. Forman, Paperpusher, and Michelle Klein-Haas's fics). As someone else said, the fact that I can't distinguish sometimes just proves how good some o' them fanfics are :-) In other words, keep 'em comin', fanfic writers...

Desperately trying to distract people from her inherent inferiority, -Mindy "With a mother like mine, who needs enemies?"

Which made her attempt at emoting through song even funnier.

reminiscent of nails scraping down a chalkboard than a sound that could emerge from any human throat. <<

Reminds me a lot of the gal who played Audrey (the human one) in the musical movie version of Little Shop of Horrors, vocally.

nightmares for years. <<

Actually I thought the vocal contrast of a hysterical Brittany and calm Daria came off pretty well.

She wants Daria to come out of her shell. Helen sometimes (often) overreacts to perceived slights on first contact, but she's a smart lady, and can figure out when she's making a mistake. Trent is Jane's brother, and it's pretty obvious when you get to know him that he's a nice guy.

exchanged between Jake and Trent, I felt the compulsion to say that.) <<

Jake was pretty worried about Daria, Trent was worried about both the girls, and Trent was also thrilled that Jake was treating him like an equal and comrade.

you find something else to pick on? <<

Well, they were kinda, um, impossible to ignore in the close quarters of the water tower.

I bet Kevin disagrees with you on that point ... ;-)

Well, they ARE the only two teen characters on that show we know for sure are actually having sex ... which brings me to what I thought was one of the good points of the episode, Jane calling Brittany a "bimbo". She isn't, not really, and I think this reveals more about Jane's own insecurity than Brittany's morals ...

Better than Jake, anyway.

Sincerely Yours, Jordan

JBassior wrote:

We DON'T know for sure that they're having sex. It seems a safe assumption, but we have only seen them kissing. And Brittany * IS * a bimbo.

On Fri, 19 Feb 1999 19:42:43 -0500, Jeg7777 wrote:

It's heavily implied, though, that the Dumb Jock and the Airhead Blonde are having sex. Remember this exchange from "Malled"?

Brittany: I'm not your teammate. I'm your girlfriend! Would you rather do what *we* do with your team?

Kevin: (disgusted) Brrrrrrr!!!

Brittany: All right, then.

It *could* be merely an innocent referral to sucking face, but I doubt they would've wasted such a scene on an innocuous reference. :-)

Martin (to send e-mail, remove the "nospam" from my e-mail address) ---- "Don't worry. Today it's brains, tomorrow pierced tongues, then the next day, pierced brains." - Jane Lane ---- Outpost Daria: Your Online Database for All Things Daria! http://systech.simplenet.com/daria/

but we have only seen them kissing. << jeg7777

In the ep with the Amazon Modelling Agency tryouts (forget the name), Brittany tearfully consoles herself with "Oh well, I'll always be his first. No one can take that away from me," whereupon another girl (who really DOES appear to be a "bimbo") replies "I can". At which point Brittany cries even more.

I think the implications of this are pretty obvious ...

No, she's an "airhead". She's mentally vacant, but she's not sleazy; as far as we know Kevin is the only guy she's ever been with, and she regards merely clubbing with another guy to be essentially "cheating". Not a loose girl by any means.

Now, she might well BECOME a "bimbo" at some point, especially if things didn't work out between her and Kevin and she met someone smarter than her (not hard) and unscrupulous. I think this probably would happen if she ever succeeded in breaking into modelling or the movies like she dreams.

Otherwise, she'll probably graduate high school, marry someone (maybe Kevin) and have lots and lots of babies, all with her annoying voice. And she'll probably make a good mom, too.

But now we're getting a bit beyond the scope of the series.

Sincerely Yours, Jordan

JBassior wrote:

Ah ah ah... don't forget "Lab Brat," when Upchuck produces the picture of Brittany in the back seat of a car with another guy... the QB of the Lions' rival team, no less! <gasp!> His shirt is off and her hair is all messed up... the implications of *that* are also kind of self evident. But as she said, "But Kevin and I broke up that week!" so she wasn't really cheating on him.

--J.

On the mountaintop, "Jessica L." spake thusly:

Plus the scenes in Ill where Brittany is talking about that guy, whats-his-face, that she dyed her hair for... crap, I haven't seen Ill in too long, and I don't remember it too well, but IIRC she *was* seeing a guy other than her beloved Kevvy during the ep. If not, may the wet noodles take me.

-Mindy Um.... a sig, a sig... "Wilma Johnson earns a monthly salary of $1,170 payable at the end of each month. If during a month she works 47 hours one week and 40 hours the remaining weeks, what will her earnings be for the month?"

$1,170. duh. Saerah

As Upchuck said "Back Seat Brittiny".

You mean "Terry or Gerry or whatever".

And as Kevin says in "The Daria Hunter" he *HAS* gone steady with two girls at once...make of that what you will, so if Brittiny is cheating Kevin is/has as well.

Phill.

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Ok, maybe I'm wrong about Brittany ...

JBassior wrote in message ...

Actually, where I come from bimbo is a pretty accurate term. I'm from Philly, so it may be different where you're at. Bimbo around here simply equals airhead...

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I don't think Brittany is a "loose girl" by any means, however, two words: "Lab Brat." Sure, they were broken up that week and all...

Chris Seamans wrote in message ...

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Well there is her deep love of the French people and their culture: "He was just a lonely exchange student and I wanted to give him an American Goodby."

Bob

Not true, in "the New Kid", Daria, Kevin, and Brittney are taking about the yearbook when Daria says,"But Brittney, what about your love for the french people and their culture..." then Brittney says, "Love had nothing to do with it, he was just a lonely exchange student and I wanted to give him an American goodbye."

Prindora

Yeah and also the "Back Seat Brittney" pictures that Upchuck had in "The Lab Brat". i'd also contest that she's not completely vacant, she sometimes shows flashes of intelegence, such as her stategy in "The Daria Hunter".

Phill.

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JBassior wrote in message ...

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And there the bit in cafe disaffecto where kevin is complaining about his lines give him a headache and Britany says "please learn them or I may get a headache".

And in "malled" on the bus Britany asks him if he'd like to do what they do with the team instead, which gets a urgh! type reaction.

Bettster Suffering withdrawl. Damn MTV uk.

JBassior wrote in message ...

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Nah. It's even simpler than that. Helen is worried about Daria. She's a really nice person, not deep down inside but on the surface. She's always been nice... she's just busy and driven.

I think it's perfectly in character for her to tell Trent to come over.

And even if you're not willing to believe that (which I don't see how anybody can't after seeing "Write Where It Hurts"), keep in mind that she wakes up on average mornings with the desire to "be the perfect working wife and mother..." In this case, due to the circumstances she just mothers an extra kid ;^)