Daria's homepage

S03E01 Daria!retroFeb 14, 19993 days before it aired33 posts by 17 posters
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Shez

What do people think of "Daria's homepage" at the MTV site? Does anyone know if the Daria team had any input to it, or is it just something MTV have knocked up themselves? The author credit (Michael J. Mathews) isn't a name that I've seen appear on the Daria credits, and the page doesn't have a Daria feel to it to me, apart from the padded wall background. OK I know it's maybe supposed to be a sort of spoofy thing where Daria is pretending to be someone other than herself, but I would have expected her character to show through in some subtle fashion, eg. in the hobbies list, but my Daria meter isn't registering a response at all on this page.

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D'micoShez

I agree. It just didn't have the sarcasm or something that we're used to. Maybe there wasn't enough of Daria's usual flair, if that's the word I want to use. Either way, something just seemed to be missing.

-D'mico

TarvokShez

On Sun, 14 Feb 1999 18:19:39 +0000, Shez wrote:

Yuck! I have to agree with you. This thing looks like it was produced by a MTV approved web page designer, who simply doesn't understand this show. Because of this page, I am now fully convinced that, were it not for the fact that MTV has people who can understand value by the numbers (read: us, and the lurker and non-usenet fans), MTV would've canceled this show long ago.

Either that, or we've read WAY too much into thos show...

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I don't think that's possible. Because if we've found meaning, it must be there, whether they knew it or not.

I wouldn't be surprised. Whenever I tune into MTV I wonder how they can be the same people who make Daria. Of course they do seem to manage to sell to equally oblivious sponsors selling makeup and stuff (Yeah, it's a cartoon about high school.... yeah, the high school demographic, of COURSE they'll want your makeup.)

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Yeah, people who produce TV shows are usually very pleased to find that there are dedicated fans who've got to grips with the subtleties of a show. They often put way more into their programmes than most viewers will ever get out of them. Any good TV show needs to be watched over and over to tease out the fine nuances and meanings that the writers put into it. When My So-Called Life was first going out, the writers received transcripts of postings that people made after each episode went out, and Winnie Holzman later told the MSCL newsgroup that they were really touched by the way people had been affected by the show, and the way they'd picked up on the subtle touches that had been incorporated into it.

That's really funny, people advertising makeup during Daria! I didn't know that. C5 showed it with no ad. breaks, and I would change channels as soon as it ended (or more often, turn the TV off and go back to sleep), so I don't know what ads they ran before and after Daria here.

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selling makeup and stuff << Eccles

What's really funny is that they ran a cosmetics commercial during the episode lampooning plastic surgery .... ;-)

JBassior wrote in message ...

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Nah, a cosmetics commercial ain't too bad. Hell, even Daria's worn makeup...

The real funny one was during the wedding episode (I forget the title) my local cable company ran a commercial for a local bridal shop.

Now *that* was perfect timing... ;^)

endless, namelessChris Seamans

Chris Seamans wrote:

And Jane wears lipstick, doesn't she? And Jodie presumeably wears make-up. And then there's all the popular people, but hopefully nobody watches the show for them, 'cept to laugh at them.

I think they should have some of the guys on the show wearing make-up. They should make Trent wear eyeliner. And a skirt. And then they should make him skip, like Nicky Wire... I'm going mad, I'm very sorry everyone.. I'm posting a load of crap tonight. This morning, or whatever.

LOL.

I'm going to shut up and go, now, before I post anything more stupid and annoying. Yes. That's a good idea.

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Yes. Jane appears to wear, at the very least, lipstick. Then there's the goth girl who appears every once in awhile. I suspect that's makeup she's wearing.

On the other hand, I find it harder and harder to laugh at the Fashion Club than I used to. I usually feel badly for them.

Maybe they will....

Keep going down after the message for a cryptic quasi-spoiler.

Gotta love local clueless cable folks ;^) Keep going for cryptic sort of spoiler... / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / /

Perhaps, just perhaps Trent will, or *has already* done what you think they should have him do... Maybe, just maybe.

Chris Seamans wrote:

Jane: Ohhhh...la la! Is that lip-stique? Daria: No! I just had a lollipop! Jane: Sure ya did, kid.

Sorry, couldn't resist. ;-{)>

Well, there is the scene where Quinn is taking up the collection for her plastic surgery, and we see Andrea applying black eye-liner. Oh, and obviously those black lips aren't a natural occurrence...I mean, unless she had blackberry pie for breakfast and forgot to wipe her lips. %-{)>

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There you have it. I did not know that. ;^)

endless, namelessChris Seamans

Chris Seamans wrote:

FWIW, I love that colour. I have a nail varnish that colour, but it's gone all sticky now because it's cheap Miss Selfridge crap and it only cost �2.50. And I can't find a decent nail varnish in that colour either, which is odd. But I digress.....

Well, seeing as how she was once shown re-applying her eyeliner, I think that's a pretty safe assumption. <g>

I still think they're hilarious! Especially Stacy: "Oh my God! These are stretch pants!! I'M WEARING STRETCH PANTS!!!!"

It's not fair! Why can't I live in the US??

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endless, nameless wrote in message ...

Sometimes I get surprised by the stuff people respond with. This is one of those cases. ;^)

Yes, I figured it was a safe assumption. However, I've met people who put stuff on their faces that doesn't qualify as make up, and stuff in their hair that don't qualify as hair-care products ;^)

Ever since the episode where Quinn went to stay at Stacy's house I've found it difficult to laugh at her in particular.

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When I was very much into Red Dwarf I often wondered why I couldn't live in the U.K.

Yes, the one consolation about us not getting Daria 3 is that we just started getting Red Dwarf 8 last week, and it's looking pretty good (see viewer comments in my TV guide (contains spoiler)).

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deena lissaShez

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God, how long _has_ "Red Dwarf" been on the air? We only started getting it locally late December of last year, when our PBS affiliate acquired that and "The Thin Blue Line" (both of which are my favorites right at this moment, along with "Keeping Up Appearances" and "Are You Being Served?", which I should console myself with having at this point since a lot of PBS affiliates have stopped airing it).

Britcoms...they rock. :)

deena lissa ("Any resemblance between this and tea is purely coincidental." -- Capt. Peacock)

"I believe you'll follow me, it's all I need to know" (Duran Duran, 1987) Jane: Dear Daria, Lousy Traitor. Daria: Dear Jane, I know what you are, but what am I?

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Shezdeena lissa

At a guess, 8 years? Could be less, but at least 5. I didn't used to like it but it gradually grew on me. In fact I don't think it got really popular until about the 3rd series, but luckily the BBC don't have the same pressure that commercial stations do to cancel series that only have minority appeal. Now it's really big though, and the latest series looks like they've been able to spend a lot more on special effects and sets. I think it's been shown in the US for a 2-3 years now too. I notice there's a whole bunch of alt.tv.red-dwarf.* newsgroups, including one devoted to the latest series, presumably to divert spoilers from the main newsgroup.

Are You Being Served is *really* old, it used to be on when I was a kid, loong looong ago. There was an item on the news recently that the department store that Grace Brothers was based on has finally shut, it was the last of it's type. To be honest I don't recall ever coming across an antiquated store like that even when it was first going out, but apparently all department stores used to be like that in the 1940's and 50's. I was a bit disappointed with Thin Blue Line, it was a bit of an anticlimax after Rowan Atkinson's classic Blackadder series. Thin Blue Line didn't do all that well here I think. Mr Bean did a lot better.

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deena lissaShez

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Oh...I see...man, that must mean we're REALLY slow at getting things here locally on our PBS affiliate...either that, or they were really underfunded for a while. Actually, I do think they got some actual serious funding last pledge drive (and during the Britcoms block, too), so they might've been able to finally afford the new 'coms.

So we're not exactly a wealthy city... :)

(I do rather prefer the approach this ng is taking toward spoilers, btw.)

I know it's old because even our PBS affiliate has been airing it for the whole of this decade (which means it's been on the air locally for about nine years). And besides, it does say at the closing credits that the series is (c) 197_ (in Roman numerals, of course). I'd heard of the store being closed down -- I try to make an effort at reading some "AYBS?" discussion groups at least once a week to keep up with what people are saying. And it did look antiquated, didn't it? Ah well...I loved the lift. I wish those types of lifts were still in service.

Mr. Humphries rocks!

You know, I never got to see "Blackadder", but my best friend is a huge Rowan Atkinson fan and thus has read to me at least the first episode's script (since she printed most of them out). She says that it was hilarious and from picturing the goings-on from the first episode's script, it sounds like it was a crazy show. Utterly, completely, crazy. "Mr. Bean" had a lot of success here, too. They still show it here on our cable Fox Family Channel (which is really curious because it's mainly an "onward Christian soldiers"-type cable channel).

But I do like "The Thin Blue Line", from what I've seen of it. I guess that makes me odd, huh?

deena lissa

"I believe you'll follow me, it's all I need to know" (Duran Duran, 1987) Jane: Dear Daria, Lousy Traitor. Daria: Dear Jane, I know what you are, but what am I?

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Shezdeena lissa

There were four series, and each covers a different century as we go through the generations of the Blackadder family. The same characters recur though, usually in more or less the same relationships to one another. The series where he's a courtier to Elisabeth I is very good, and in the 4th series he's a Captain in the trenches during World War I, and having a bit of common sense he spends the whole series trying to get out of doing any fighting so as to avoid being slaughtered by the enemy. The final episode is an all time classic and very moving as well as funny.

Since it's basically a silent comedy in the classic mould they've apparently been able to sell it to pretty much every country in the world, as not only is no dubbing needed but the jokes don't rely on language either, giving it universal appeal. Mr Bean is particularly popular in Japan.

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Tice RustShez

I'd also add that the first series has a lot more dark humor, as well as crude humor...and Baldric's character changes in the second series (and onward) from the wise sidekick to the stooge. My favorite series of all was Blackadder III, in the 18th century. Edmund and the Prince played off of each other perfectly.

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Is it me or is Mr Bean *really* annoying?

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MindyShez

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Blackadder... have yet to see a single ep of that, but I want to. Mr. Bean... love the show, hated the movie. I remember watchin Mr. Bean on PBS with my dad, back when our pathetic excuse for winter family time was TV instead of the Internet. At this point, we have twice as many computers in our house as people and most of them are on at any given time. Instead of walking across the hall or down the stairs to talk to each other, my father and I call on our seperate phone lines....

But I digress.

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Jessica L.Mindy

Mindy wrote:

Heh.. we've got something like four or five computers in our house (it's REALLY pathetic when you can't say off the top of your head)... when my Mom wants me to come downstairs she usually sends me a message in Instant Messenger. Now THAT is messed up, if you ask me. :->

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"Jessica L." wrote:

We've got 5 computers right now, I think....

Yes, it is... :) My family operates by shouting. Everyone shouts at everyone else, all the time.

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Can you believe my parents *still* don't have a computer? I'd much rather get emails than clipped out newspaper articles in the mail, to be honest. *sigh*

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I have that sort of problem with work. I do some voluntary work for a charity (the Charles Fort Institute) and literally everybody is online, and we have our own mailing list for discussions, which means if anyone has an idea they can float it without needing to call a meeting. I'm currently putting together a newsletter for them, and *all* the contributors are not only on email but check their mail daily, which means I can get stuff quickly and pour their text into my word processor without retyping or anything.

But out in the "real world" where I have to scratch a living, *no-one* is online, well except one company who, when I asked about the email address in their letterhead, admitted they never checked their mail! So with these people who are actually paid good money to do "real" business, and are often too busy to even meet up in real life, I have to resort to archaic forms of communication like faxes and leaving messages with secretaries, and using scissors and glue on documents that I need to incorporate into own reports.

It's a crazy world, I can make arrangements to go to the pub with a friend via email but I can't send an urgent business communication that way!

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endless, namelessChris Seamans

Chris Seamans wrote:

LOL, I know, I just go totally off the subject.... I've been a bit "odd" lately.....

Ugh, that was scary.

You want to swap? :)

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TarvokChris Seamans

On Sun, 21 Feb 1999 02:12:12 -0500, "Chris Seamans" wrote:

And when I was really into Dragon Warrier (AKA Dragon Quest), I wondered why I couldn't live in Japan.

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In the new episode about contacts (I think it was called "Lens of a Different Color" or something like that), did anyone else think Aunt Amy's voice sounded different? In the wedding episode, Aunt Amy sounded almost exactly like Daria. This episode, she sounded higher pitched. Any comments?

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[email] wrote:

"Through a Lens, Darkly."

Hmm... I personally didn't notice much, if any, difference. But it wouldn't surprise me much at all if Aunt Amy's voice was very similar to Tracy Gandstaff's real voice. Of course, she has a fairly large range so it would be difficult to tell, eh?

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They already did!

endless, namelessXPeeple

XPeeple wrote:

Really? Did he skip? :) I am going to send hatemail to C5 and MTV UK until one of the two shows that new episode. Or something. OK, so I'll probably just moan about it and never do anything, but I like to pretend occasionally that I at least *intend* to do something about something. <g>

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local cable company ran a commercial for a local bridal shop.

Now *that* was perfect timing... ;^) << Chris Seamans

I once saw a really gory horror movie (forget which one) where they cut from a hideously bloody disembowling scene to an advertisement for spaghetti and meatballs ... the first scene of which was of a big heap of spaghetti, meatballs, and tomato sauce.

It took me a moment to realize that this wasn't part of the movie ...

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