The Seeds Are Planted (SPOILER)

S05E11 Prize FightersliveJun 12, 2001, 1:37 AM ET4 hours after the credits11 posts by 10 posters
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Shawn St.Clair

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I do believe the seeds have been planted for those wanting or expecting the conflict competition brings. With Daria and Jodie and maybe Chuck (I think we can stop calling him "Upchuck" now, but that's another thread) vying for valedictorian in the season final� or the movie "Is It College Yet?". I know Daria is gearing up for it.

Perfection is subjective.

Al BShawn St.Clair

Christ, I hope it's better written than this mess.

Al

MMan37xAl B

Yeah. I've never seen a Daria episode so unbelievably trite. Was this some sort of self-parody of triteness?

I couldn't remember what other episodes Neena Beber had written. I checked and was surprised to find some I liked: "Psycho-Therapy" and "Monster". Although some I didn't - like "The Lost Girls", which was also pretty trite, though not as much as "Prize Fighters".

M Man

DavidShawn St.Clair

"Shawn St.Clair" wrote in message news:...

You think? I'm guessing she'd find the concept of valedictorian troubling, at a minimum. Basically, Daria gets good grades because she's a natural intellect who enjoys reading and... well... thinking. These qualities, while admirable, don't necessarily imply any particular regard for or sentimentality towards the high school experience. Valedictorian is strictly a numbers game, and having the highest grade-point average isn't something Daria specifically set out to achieve. It just happened because Daria's smart and didn't have anything better to do.

DavidDavid

[email] (David) wrote in message news:...

(Bad form to follow up my own post, but I hit "Post message" when I meant to hit "preview." Sorry!)

She might be able to appreciate the irony of an outcast speaking on behalf of her graduating class (particularly the likes of Kevin and Brittany, should they manage to graduate at all). She might be tempted by the opportunity to expound on her "Arts and Crass" view of student life ("There's so much to hate about it"). But I certainly can't see her actively vying for the right. More likely, I can see her throwing an exam to get out of it.

Daria and Jodie have an interesting relationship. Jodie has actually managed to earn Daria's grudging admiration, despite her relentlessly participatory behavior. Were I to guess, I'd say that Daria gives points for Jodie's work ethic, and she appreciates Jodie's efforts (however futile) to include Daria in student life at Lawndale. (That isn't to say that Daria would ever want to take Jodie up on those invitations, but it has to score points that Jodie's made the effort.) No one else has tried, unless it's in the form of coercion. I can't imagine that Daria, when she thinks of the things implied by "valedictorian," wouldn't believe Jodie fits the bill better.

Actually, that would be a fun segment of "Is It College Yet?" Li tries to force Daria into the valedictorian slot, based on GPA alone, but Daria so terrifies her with the prospect of what she might say at commencement that Li changes one of Daria's grades to an A-minus.

David

The IncarnateDavid

Valedictorian is strictly a numbers game, and having the

At my high school, valedictorian was based on tryouts, not GPA. Of course, if that was the case at LHS, the chances of seeing Daria at the podium come graduation day are even smaller.

Belle BookThe Incarnate

The Incarnate wrote:

I think in my high school valedictorian was based on GPA -- I don't remember any tryouts. Who gets to become valedictorian probably depends on either GPA or tryouts, depending on what a certain school prefers.

I wasn't valedictorian or salutatorian -- I was third in my graduating class.

Belle Book

Chris McCubbinShawn St.Clair

Um, does this thread have something to do with Tiffany's garden?

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JMorris830Shawn St.Clair

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If the valevictorian storyline comes up I hope it gives Jodie more airtime than she's had in a while. Maybe Daria and she will become better friends out of all this than they've been in the five years of this show. And please give Mack something to do.

What's interesting to me is the possible conflict between Jane and Daria. She really was insecure over Daria and the scholarship, and if Daria should be made valevictorian.......

Jeff M.

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Your Silent FaceJMorris830

NO! NO! NO!

Jodie is boring. I've had enough of her. She's so PC it's insane, every time she's on screen she has to remind us that she is black. We have eyes. Mack is even worst. They should have an episode we're Jodie is walking home from school, she had to stay really late helping minority students or something equally gay. Anyways, at the same time in the same area of Jodies path, some other black chick is breaking into a house, and kills all the houses occupants. This other black chick looks remarkably like Jodie so by the time she gets home the cops are there waiting for her. "Get in the car you stupid nigger!" is heard. She would be raped and tortured for many years, one inmate would go as far to jam a shank in her anus and vaginal cavity just for kicks. Then to top it all off, after she is released *60* years in the future she is a fragile old woman, she's walking down the same path and a carload of KKK members throws a tomato at her and calls her an "uppity coon". They bash her head in with a brick and urinate on her! Now that's an episode.

Bernie

Winkie MarmeladeShawn St.Clair

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Oooh! Oooh! I know! I know the answer! There was a Scholarship! There was competition! There were moral speeches! We saw the show Monday Night!

I hear the rest of the country saw the infamous "Daria Scouts" episode where Daria and Jane join the Boy Scouts and Daria has to admit to the Scout Master that she likes boys better than girls and they make her quit, but Jane gets to stay because she says she's undecided.

Winkie