Feedback from Daria HQ's!!!!!

This is *not a prank*.

This is *totally and completely for real*.

Our Heroine needs YOUR help if you are reading this from the United States.

I have been contacted by Glenn Eichler regarding my and others' efforts to make MTV Network Operations DROP THE DONUT and FIX THE 3PM WEEKDAY SHOWINGS.

Here is an excerpt from his email...and no, I will not give out his email under any circumstances, inclusive of torture.

I will be putting up a special online form on Lawndale Commons for "bug reports" on showings past and present. All form results will be passed on to Eichler's office for forwarding to the correct people at MTV National Operations Center.

Until the bug report form is up, you can email me directly with incident reports...take the spamblockers out of my address (follow the e-z instructions!) and drop me a line.

And don't forget to keep the snailmail flying to MTV!!! If you need the instructions, here's the URL:

http://www.2cowherd.net/catseye/thecommons/mo-1098.html

We need to hold MTV's feet to the fire and remind them that THE AUDIENCE IS LISTENING.

Take care,
--.\\<-H--

On Thu, 17 Dec 1998 11:53:39 -0800, [email] (Michelle Klein-Hass) wrote:

Now is, I think, the perfect time to get that "Daria Screwup Tape" of mine and send it along... and now, I can tack onto it the recently screwed-up showings of "Esteemsters" and "The Invitation". (I wish I'd kept a running log of all the screwups... live and learn. I do know, however, that more than half of the episodes I've collected on the tape are from late in the MTV Summer Jam '98 period, as the commercials and intros show.)

Martin (to send e-mail, remove the "nospam" from my e-mail address) ---- "Don't worry. Today it's brains, tomorrow pierced tongues, then the next day, pierced brains." - Jane Lane ---- Outpost Daria: Your Online Database for All Things Daria! http://systech.simplenet.com/daria/

In article , [email] (Martin J. Pollard) wrote:

Now that I have an in with Eichler please send the tape to ME instead. I'll then be able to get the "Daria Screwup Tape" into Eichler's own hands and he can walk it over to the right people.

We'll talk about the new situation further later tonight in chat.

Take care,
--.\\<-H--

[email] (Martin J. Pollard) wrote:

Actually, Martin, if my failing memory serves me, I seem to remember that the more egregious incidents of subpar broadcasting happened when they left the little party hut in NJ, and got back to NYC. In fact, I remember Carson Daly and Jesse Whateverhisnameis talking over a quite a few ACT IIIs... and wondering to myself, "Who's wearing headphones in the booth? Do they even care about what's going out over the channel? I swear, I could do it better, just give me the freakin' manual!" (Of course, the expletives were deleted... <g>) If Mr. E. wants more than one screwup tape, I could try put one together in January when I get back from Texas, but I think yours is the more complete one. (Besides, I taped over the screwups to try to get the eps again. For my personal viewing pleasure, of course. (And because MTV has a habit of being a Bermuda Triangle for good shows-- they mysteriously disappear without warning and without a trace.))

But, again, most of the goofs happened in September (prompting Michelle's editorial in Early October). In fact, the Season Two airings had improved through Early November (i.e., the screwup rate went down considerably), until it was time to show Esteemsters and The Invitation just last week. It seems as if the video masters for both eps have been sufficiently mangled by overairing. (Not a bad thing per se, but new masters *really* need to be made.) I also noticed that the intro for "Cafe Disaffecto" that recently aired wasn't the original one-- it was the season two intro, as if they'd redone the intro for the master, or (more likely), made a new one. (I seem to remember a past airing of that ep that was mangled beyond belief, and cussing at my VCR when I checked the tape, but it wasn't the poor machine's fault.)

FWIW, I'm just relieved to hear that SOMEONE is listening. (Esp. one of the Creative Forces behind the show.) Give 'em Hell, Glenn!

nitpickingly, rich.

Daria: Sorry, with all of this animation, I thought I was on Nickelodeon for a moment.

Jane: You wish.

Daria: Tell me about it.

On Fri, 18 Dec 1998 07:37:40 GMT, [email] ([email]) wrote:

True enough. I'm probably rembering that it was *just after* they had returned from SuperSummerSongSlam '98, or whatever marketing name they gave this year's bout of banality.

Given the fact that they hired that heroin addict-wannabe Jesse to act like an idiot on the air, I'd say the answer is "no".

Do you recall if the color behind the text was green? If so, it would support the "remade the intro" theory, as all season two eps used a green background for the episode title (magenta was used for season one). They did start using the "better" version of the theme song around episode #104, though, so that may not be much of an indicator.

Seconded!

Martin (to send e-mail, remove the "nospam" from my e-mail address) ---- "Don't worry. Today it's brains, tomorrow pierced tongues, then the next day, pierced brains." - Jane Lane ---- Outpost Daria: Your Online Database for All Things Daria! http://systech.simplenet.com/daria/

On Fri, 18 Dec 1998 07:37:40 GMT, [email] ([email]) wrote:

I am currently going through my tape of season 1 episodes recorded around mid-september. If anyone can help me establish when the episodes on my tape aired I would really appreciate it. The only date I know for sure is "Road Worrier" on September 21st (from the "news flash" reporting the death of Florence Griffith-Joyner during act II or III.) So far the episodes with problems are "Cafe Disaffecto" (9 second audio cutout and video problem at the begining of act III), "The Lab Brat" (Act II, audio from act I could be heard. Act III, Jessie and friends), "The Big House" (More Jessie during Act III, on this one I can hear Jessie counting! "1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10" he's smarter than I give him credit for), "The Teachings of Don Jake" (Sept 22? All of act III,crowd noises, Jessie and Carson) and possibly "Pinch Sitter" (flickering video, possibly problems with local cable provider.) All of these were recorded, on a fresh tape, from the 3pm episodes from early/mid Sept to around Sept 23rd or 24th. Again if anyone can help me put a date on the problem episodes I would really appreciate it.

He's even been reading this newsgroup. The idea that he has even the vaguest knowledge of the HUMAMS (Happydude Universal Measurement and Music System) gives me a happy/frightened feeling.

Happy holidays, Mr. Eichler.

Or that he probably thinks we're all suicidal or obsessed with Japanese murder. We're not all like this, i swear...

On 19 Dec 1998 00:10:23 GMT, [email] (CrtoonDude) wrote:

I wonder if his heart stopped too when he saw the "DARIA CANCELLED!!!!!!!" thread? To us it's a great show, to him it's his job!

Somehow i'm pretty confident that he would know before any of us. : )

On 19 Dec 1998 00:43:29 GMT, [email] (CrtoonDude) wrote:

Unless the messengers share the same work ethic as Network Operations.

Messenger: Mr Eichler Daria has been canc- Jessie: TESTING 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 Glenn: What did you say? messenger: Daria is c- Jessie: TESTING TESTING...What's up! Hey good to see ya!

On 19 Dec 1998 00:28:34 GMT, [email] (Happydude) wrote:

*giggles with the memory*

___

Uh-oh, someone just put me in a position of responsibility! The day has suddenly turned sinister...

Another Nugget of Knowledge from the Wonderful World of Kyle(TM), ICQ#12773280

CrtoonDude wrote:

Well, I can't be the only one! :)

Alli

I'm really not suicidal now that I'm not in Gym class... and I'm really not obsessed with murder, only my principal thinks so, because he wants me to be so he can get credit for uncovering me, and because I'm a perfect villain because I'm in Science Olympiad and therefore an outcast. Oh, and because I came into the office being accused wearing a combat jacket. Smart of me.

Dagny misery chick, cynic, general loony

Visit the Parsley Firefly http://members.aol.com/Eccles9697

"One must have chaos in one, to give birth to a dancing star. I tell you: you still have chaos in you." Friedrich Nietzsche

That shouldn't mean anything. Sabrina wore a combat jacket last week, and she wasn't out to murder anyone. (Although she was plotting to take over the world.)

-Shez.

But she's not in Science Olympiad. We're sort of Daria-esque intellectual outcasts, but we're also pyros, and got a bad reputation from a certain student several years ago.

Dagny misery chick, cynic, general loony

Visit the Parsley Firefly http://members.aol.com/Eccles9697

"One must have chaos in one, to give birth to a dancing star. I tell you: you still have chaos in you." Friedrich Nietzsche

On Sat, 19 Dec 1998 16:24:10 +0000, "endless, nameless" wrote:

Every time I tried to join in, you'd say "HEY! I'm the suicidal one here"!

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Uh-oh, someone just put me in a position of responsibility! The day has suddenly turned sinister...

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Kyle wrote:

I only said that once!

Huh??

Alli

On Sun, 20 Dec 1998 23:52:42 +0000, "endless, nameless" wrote:

Once did the damage. <g>

That was a stupid thing that was big in Junior High. A kid would go up to another kid, like he was talking to him, then say real loud for all to here "You did WHAT to WHO's DOG for HOW MANY COOKIES?"

I cleaned it up a tad, for virgin ears' sake.

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Uh-oh, someone just put me in a position of responsibility! The day has suddenly turned sinister...

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Kyle wrote in message ...

<g> Reminds me a time when I was walking past college and a friend(?) called something rude to me from a second floor window. A number of heads appeared at other windows. I feigned shock and yelled back, "[Name withheld], get down from that window right away and put your clothes back on!" They were waiting for days to see if the Rector sent for them!

Martin.

Kyle wrote:

LOL. One of my friends has this horribly embarassing and annoying habit of shouting "YOU'RE PREGNANT?!?" at whoever she's talking to whenever there's a lot of people around.....she did it to me the other day at the bus stop, and everyone looked around.....<cringe>

Alli

Oh Alli! Not AGAIN!! And after that long lecture we gave you about taking precautions. Who is it this time?

-Shez.

On Tue, 22 Dec 1998 19:50:53 +0000, Shez wrote:

Don't look at me!!!!! Honest!

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[email] wrote:

Me either! The doctor said the operation was successful!

<snip snip ok, you're shooting blanks now>

Kyle wrote:

I don't think anyone would have even suspected *you*, Kyle! :)

Alli

On Wed, 23 Dec 1998 18:20:21 +0000, "endless, nameless" wrote:

Your right, I'm very careful.

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endless, nameless wrote in message ...

In case you've not heard it: urban myth or just a joke? A man enjoying a quiet pint in a crowded pub in a university town. An attractive girl sits down opposite him, and chats about nothing for a minute or two. Then, unprovoked, she stands up, and shouts, "How dare you, you arrogant sod! What makes you think I would want to sleep with you!" Every eye in the pub turns onto them; she stomps over to another table, and sits down with some people she seems to know. Fifteen minutes later, she returns, and quietly says, "I'm sorry for embarrassing you then. You see, I'm a psychology student and myself and my friends are doing fieldwork. We were observing your reaction, and the reaction of the other people in the pub." He shouts, "Thirty pounds! You must be joking!"

Now, a riposte to your friend. How about:

Alli's Friend (loudly): You're pregnant? <Alli turns to the nearest person> Alli (in a quiet, reassuring voice): Don't worry, I'm her care in the community nurse. She's quite harmless. Usually.

Martin.

Martin Sylvester wrote:

LOL.

Oh yeah, like they'd believe I was a care in the community nurse! It appears to be quite clear to most people I meet that I need one myself.....I don't know what it is, but people can usually tell that I am, shall we say, psychologically unhealthy......

Alli

endless, nameless wrote in message ...

Some of the best mental nurses are -- no, I won't finish that sentence.

Well, we'll have to revise the riposte, then.

Alli's Friend (loudly): You're pregnant? <Alli turns to the nearest person> Alli (in a quiet, menacing voice): She's my care in the community nurse. She's usually more discreet. What do you think I should do? <Bystanders berate Alli's Friend for her lack of professionalism>

No, not entirely satisfactory.

Alli's Friend (loudly): You're pregnant? Alli (loudly): Well, you kept on about it being my turn, and about how you and everyone else in the cult has had three already.

Much better.

Martin.

Martin Sylvester wrote:

Now, come on, what is it? Tell us. :)

No, not really. I don't think anyone would mistake her for a care in the community nurse either!

Yup. I'll use that one next time!

Oh, that brings back guilty memories....when I was in year 8, this girl who was really thick (she had some medical condition I think, but I swear I had no idea at the time) joined our class, and we found out she was really gullible, and we told her we all had children, for some obscure reason, and that we all smoked crack and stuff like that, and she believed every word of it...and then, we laughed at her for being such an idiot. We'd do things like this to the poor girl on a regular basis and probably totally destroyed her self-esteem.....

Alli

endless, nameless wrote in message ...

destroyed

Um, the Reconciliation Service finished at 8.45, and I'm not allowed to hear confessions over the net anyway. 8-)

Reminds me of a story my father (may he rest in peace) told. He and the other firemen were listening to a news report which spoke, as many had before, of "Heavy bombing at random." One of them remarked that this place Random was constantly getting targetted -- and he meant it. The others said, yes, it was a sight to see, and hadn't he been over to look at it? No, he didn't know where it was. They wrote down vague directions to "Randham," and their gullible colleague spent the whole of his next off duty day cycling round trying to find it. He reported his lack of success; they put his failure to find it down to good security, because of all the secret installations at Randham.

I suppose a key question in teasing the gullible is, is it good-humoured and affectionate, or mocking and vicious?

Okay, moral theology seminar over, and soapbox back in the shed!

Martin.

Martin Sylvester wrote:

<<Reminds me of a story my father (may he rest in peace) told. He and the other firemen >> <story snipped>

That sort of behavior is endemic in most fire and EMS (ambulance) stations. Ask just about any firefighter, EMT or Paramedic, and they'll be able to tell you similar stories. It's, as you noted, good-natured rather than spiteful. Funny, but the emergency services seem to attract these two types of people: the intelligent, witty (and somtimes sarcastic), very Daria-like, and the gullible, good-hearted but just a little dimwitted. Think Kevin but not as extreme. Believe me, it's a strange family, but one that works. (Speaking as a career Paramedic for 21 years and a volunteer Firefighter for just under 24. And yes, I have *lots* of stories).

Anyway, I think our heroine would get along well in that environment. Oops, I mentioned Daria. I guess I'd better get back off-topic now.

(Aside to Martin: The musician/liturgist thing is something I volunteer to do on the side. It's not as schizophrenic as it may seem. Or maybe it is. Who knows? At least I'm off topic).

Peace Kevin

Are you by any chance thinking of the "Psycho Ward 10" sketch in the Alexei Sayle show? Where this new doctor is sits down and starts talking to these weird guys who are sat there acting sort of peculiar, and trying to get them to say their names and stuff, but without much luck as they keep calling themselves after Hitchcock films. Then when he refers to one of them as a patient they all start laughing manically, and one of them says, "We're not the *patients*, we're the *nurses*!"

-Shez.

Shez wrote in message ...

There's also Jo Brand's material about her time as a psychiatric nurse; and I studied with someone who had been one. Alli's assertion that no-one would believe her to be a care in the community nurse, because too many people seem to think she needs one, just won't hold up!

Of course, you can question how typical ex-nurses are of nurses, but I did write, "Some..."

Perhaps the sentence should finish:

-- blessed with a strong personality.

Martin.